Suzuki LTZ400 vs Honda 400ex (The Race Of The 400cc Quads)

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I ride my 2004 Suzuki LTZ400 and Chuck rides my 1999 Honda 400ex as we race to see which machine is really faster. Who will win? #Honda, #Suzuki, #QuadRace,
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@2vintage 3 жыл бұрын

Which quad did you pick to win the drag race? Please SUBSCRIBE and LIKE the video if you enjoyed! It really helps me out a lot! Check out my Instagram: 2_vintage_ Thank you for all the support!

@DarkKingdom2012 3 жыл бұрын

Do you sell quads or just fix them up.

@rustbuket6159 3 жыл бұрын

You need sprockets on that Z400. Too small.

@kadencarter8887 3 жыл бұрын

Ltz because I have smoked 400 ex with 440kits in them and still beat them and I’m on the stock bore

@kennycampbelljr5896 3 жыл бұрын

I'm picking the Zuki.

@timthomas4478 3 жыл бұрын

LtZ 500 2 stroke

@timjohnson9230 3 жыл бұрын

Having owned both, I could have told you. If a z loses to an ex. There's definitely something wrong with the z.

@ooossccar.7515 3 жыл бұрын

top speed on a stock 400ex is 73 mph and it lost to the tecate 4 250 which top speed on it he did was 68. the 400ex is not running right if it’s losing to z400

@parkerconrad7795 3 жыл бұрын

@@ooossccar.7515 i have to agree and disagree the 400ex is geared shorter for more woods terrain and the ltz400 is geared longer giving it has a higher top speed but these facts are for stock quads so

@tylerdietrich655 3 жыл бұрын

I have owned both and currently a z400 turned into a 470 stroker but z all the way

@ooossccar.7515 3 жыл бұрын

@@parkerconrad7795 i have no clue tbh i thought 400ex was always faster because i’ve done top speed on both 400ex is faster and it beat the z400 everytime so idk what wrong with them lmao

@michaelangelod5008 3 жыл бұрын

Wrong lol

@joesnyder7128 3 жыл бұрын

I had a 400 ex just identical to that one for like 8 years and that thing NEVER left me stranded on the trail!

@that1guy0219 Жыл бұрын

If was hard to kill those air cooled honda's

@supercooldude824 Жыл бұрын

Those things go for ever

@numba9792 3 жыл бұрын

Him: *rips it on grass* grass is still perfect Me: “just starts it in my yard* yards fucked 😂

@reckless3008 3 жыл бұрын

Dude if I drifted in my parents yard I wouldn't be here right now 🤣

@ratherberippin8861 3 жыл бұрын

It would be cool to see a garage tour

@sniperboy748ross8 3 жыл бұрын

Yh do that

@bradypower5693 3 жыл бұрын

Yes ! That’s what we need, like man go in detail over the quads too

@mrsandman5679 3 жыл бұрын

He allready did. But it would be cool if he could show all new bikes

@mreverything.laronmcquilla1322 2 жыл бұрын

He. Did

@sharpeidad1055 3 жыл бұрын

The Honda might have a Wing, but it doesn't have a prayer

@mx_easton7021 3 жыл бұрын

YESSSS IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR SO LONGG

@cardwellbrosdirtbikediy1249 3 жыл бұрын

Same dude

@billrowe4r 3 жыл бұрын

I think your z400 needs a new cdi box, shouldn't hit the limiter that quick.

@deryckhorton3627 3 жыл бұрын

Definitely a CDI o

@2vintageDeamonFan 3 жыл бұрын

I think he knows what he’s doing 😂

@billrowe4r 3 жыл бұрын

Never said he didn't, he does good work!... I don't have the videos he does but ive been wrenching on motorcycles and quads, cars, trucks a long time..

@TerrellSpivey 3 жыл бұрын

Most definitely shouldn't be hitting it that quick! Dynatek cdi will take care of that! That's what I have

@billrowe4r 3 жыл бұрын

@@TerrellSpivey I like using oem cdi,, some of the aftermarket are over rev limit.

@DickWheels 3 жыл бұрын

Looks like chuck should give you some riding lessons 😂

@LandonMartien 2 жыл бұрын

Right made me cringe when he was on limiter

@owensbama1923 2 жыл бұрын

He is ok at working g on stuff but he can't ride for shit. Never has.

@wayneb331 2 жыл бұрын

Ive owned a few 400ex and now own a kfx400 and the kfx is definitely faster but the 400 was more reliable.

@donwragg9927 5 ай бұрын

Hondas made to last.

@waylonschroyer5016 3 жыл бұрын

For anyone wondering artic cat and kawi bought the ltz400 from Suzuki and just put there own plastics on them and named them different

@nicklockwood3792 2 жыл бұрын

Wearing shorts in the rain while riding. I live on Washington state so I can relate. Never seen someone only grab the clutch when your ready to shift. I always keep my two fingers on.

@lukecombs5242 3 жыл бұрын

2vintage what’s the gearing on the z400 it sounds like it’s geared low is why it’s hitting the rev limiter so fast and the Kawasaki kfx400 is the same quad as the z400 and dvx400

@gabewest305 3 жыл бұрын

That’s what I’m saying people in the comments are saying that it’s the cdi box

@dignified_poopa5112 3 жыл бұрын

The rev limiter really makes it not reach full rev which i think would have changed the race a lot

@6k932 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I agree

@Hanky_Bannist8r 3 жыл бұрын

The 400ex will outlive that Suzuki 10 times over and is a better bike all around.

@joshbannon8989 3 жыл бұрын

To each his own. The LTZ has reverse. Liquid cooled. I had both bikes and the LTZ was a far better machine. But that’s just my opinion.

@mxbeanz1206 3 жыл бұрын

@@joshbannon8989 400ex is far better and I've had both machines and several hundred more. Ltz is known for snapping frames when they were raced and handle like shit on a track

@joshbannon8989 3 жыл бұрын

@@mxbeanz1206 like I said that’s your opinion.

@Hanky_Bannist8r 3 жыл бұрын

I've owned both bikes as well. I prefer simple and reliable. If everyone had the same opinion the world would be a really dull place.

@braptasticfilms3791 3 жыл бұрын

Hey little bro let’s go race quads 60 mph+ down our road in the rain on our Craigslist quads💀😂

@19dominos86 3 жыл бұрын

Adrenalin junkie

@linkinpiatak6669 3 жыл бұрын

Y not? And they weren't going 60

@braptasticfilms3791 3 жыл бұрын

@@linkinpiatak6669 Idk I just know what it’s like to go down at speeds like that, one falls the other runs him over. Big ouch😂

@jacksonlangley2210 3 жыл бұрын

Do it all the time

@tylerlark5634 3 жыл бұрын

@@braptasticfilms3791 you have to be pretty bad to go down on a straight flat road on a quad

@TerrellSpivey 3 жыл бұрын

Figured the z would win. When you mod it, it's a beast! 14/40 is stock for the ltz 400. Definitely should try replacing the cdi box! Shouldn't be hitting the rev limiter that quick. I have a dynatek cdi on mines. Cool video

@dabears22 3 жыл бұрын

mannn stuff like this makes me wish i had a brother

@manaaalsuwaidi3643 3 жыл бұрын

I think I might get myself a Honda however! Pretty impressed! Having a spare horse doesn't hurt ! 🙃🙂

@armandruest4899 3 жыл бұрын

A spare horse that literally won’t die no matter what you do* hahaha coming from me doing a 3 minute burnout fresh out of a trail riding sesh engine already hot asf Idk how it didn’t overheat lmao

@MusicSensations1971 3 жыл бұрын

There's a big difference in the gearing between the sprockets between the two different quads

@2vintageDeamonFan 3 жыл бұрын

Definitely not normal for that to hit the rev limiter that fast

@doverpeck18 3 жыл бұрын

Change around your gear ratio on the ltz400, it should help with hitting the rev limiter too early.

@tyleradams7771 3 жыл бұрын

Put it in 2nd or 3rd and it'll wheelie so easy once you hit the balancing point you'll be a Rockstar and wheelies with the z400... shift right before rev limiter and itll go even faster

@louisjohnsonjr.4934 3 жыл бұрын

To be honest if check the specs on the sprockets on the ltz . The previous owner may have changed them for the type of riding he was doing because it tops out way too quick. My brother had one and his wasn't like that at all. It stretched out more like the 400ex.

@2clappedout477 3 жыл бұрын

personally, i like air cooled more than liquid cooled, its just less things to worry about, + i've never had a problem with over heating on a air cooled. And i've owned many different air cooled bikes and trikes.

@youngtae0155 3 жыл бұрын

Love both quads mid to top end Ltz it's faster but not by much the EX has more bottom end Great Video

@kernelbadness 3 жыл бұрын

Let her warm up a bit... Chuck: no efs given 😂

@tyleradams7771 3 жыл бұрын

Ltz400s are wheelie machines in my opinion I like the z400 more than the 400ex

@michaelatkins2154 3 жыл бұрын

There’s is a bigger difference than just being air cooled. Ltz is stock 11:1 compression and ex is stock 9:1:1 if I remember correctly.

@johnnybgood58 3 жыл бұрын

Iv had both the 400EX and a 400 LTZ the 400EX going up one sprocket tooth in the front will smoke an LTZ 400 the 400 LTZ is geard just a little taller than the 400EX from the factory other than that if they were both geared the same the 400EX has more horsepower and would win every time. You are wrong the LTZ is geared for higher speed you're not calculating or dividing your front sprocket with the rear sprocket the gear ratio on the 400EX is 2.85 the gear ratio on a 400 LTZ is 2.40 so the gear ratio on the LTZ is going to be faster just because of the gear combination if you were to switch them the 400EX would be the faster one. The 400 LTZ would not stand a chance against the raptor 660r no way in hell

@romper4444 3 жыл бұрын

U guys need to research some dynos of these bikes, the 400ex is an old school air cooled motor, vs the newer tech liquid cooled zuk 400.the ltz makes about 5-6hp more than a 400ex. Everyone knows this in the quad community. The ltz will win a drag race against a 400ex every time all else being equal and stock. Both are great bikes, the 400ex is more trail friendly and the ltz is a lil more track ready. Again this has been decided and proven like a decade ago. Anyone that still thinks a 400ex is a faster quad in any form just doesn't know, is ignorant or just a brand whore that can't except the facts lol

@BDauto86 3 жыл бұрын

I knew the ltz would win. I had a near new 1 back in the day, did some minor mods and it would smoke majority of the other machines I rode with.

@jasonaungenett3 3 жыл бұрын

You need a rev box, this will help with the early rev limiter

@mmc1869 8 ай бұрын

Those 400ex ain’t no joke I got the same 1 thinking it was gonna be slow

@hambonerodriguez4163 3 жыл бұрын

I feel sorry for the dad trying to maintain that yard.

@andreaslocum19 3 жыл бұрын

fix the jetting so it doesn’t hit the rev limiter quick then do the race again

@joshphillips8560 3 жыл бұрын

So glad u finally gave the Suknation some love!!!!! I got an 07 I'm in the process of rebuilding!.....love the channel!

@vincentboule7881 3 жыл бұрын

wath will be cool to wath is ltz 400 vs tecate 250 2 stroke because the tecate alredy win vs trx400ex

@liamherm 3 жыл бұрын

You guys need to do some trail riding videos. Like the videos though keep it up :)

@Acceptable_load8768 26 күн бұрын

Lmao let’s let her warm up a bit immediately starts wheelieing it

@mxbeanz1206 3 жыл бұрын

Chucks the cool brother for sure lol.

@emfelling8384 3 жыл бұрын

great race! never sell the 400ex lol

@jdmtechllc6589 3 жыл бұрын

I sold one 400ex a couple years ago, just bought another 2 days ago, she needs some work, but I already went overboard buying parts, pissed off the lady, but ehh, ill just go riding!

@jlucier59 3 жыл бұрын

This Suzuki 400 take a look at the CDI box it should have a flat head screw on it to adjust the rev limiter

@jameshurry6007 3 жыл бұрын

Those some serious quads💨🔥

@logansmith630 3 жыл бұрын

I just got done watching this video then was looking at LTZ's on market place and saw yours lol

@dunerider250 3 жыл бұрын

Don’t buy his

@jkreviea Жыл бұрын

Traded my 01 EX back to the Honda dealership that told me there wasn't anything wrong with it. Bought a new 954RR and never looked back. The sale guy called to ask if I ever had a problem getting it to start 🤣

@roxnsky 3 жыл бұрын

You guys should swap bikes on the second run's.

@sharpeidad1055 3 жыл бұрын

It's not just the rev limiter, your shifting needs work

@scottconstantine891 3 жыл бұрын

I didnt expect that much of a gap if you change the box on the Lt ot would help it out a whole lot

@goattraw6886 3 жыл бұрын

Now you need the ltr/trx 450 race

@jmorz24 3 жыл бұрын

Meh... The Honda gets smoked everytime anyways 😝😝😂😂

@user-fi3fx5my2s 4 ай бұрын

Replace stator and see, wouldn't surprise me honestly. They were hell on stator in their hayday.

@rosco600 3 жыл бұрын

Lets go Suzuki ltz400

@rosco600 3 жыл бұрын

Suzuki won

@andrewspoto9378 3 жыл бұрын

You have to switch riders. To really make sure.

@jacobjacobson2897 3 жыл бұрын

Bro the dude on the ex is better mans on the Z can’t shift

@franchesscolin-_-8353 3 жыл бұрын

Get some Trx 450r shocks for that 400 huge upgrade

@ramrcadventures7168 2 жыл бұрын

That 400ex is clean 🤤

@matthewkx1006 Жыл бұрын

What handlebars are on the LTZ

@joshgessinger4509 4 ай бұрын

Of course the Suzuki is faster its LQ cooled. Both machines need a aftermarket rev limiter box makes such a big difference. After riding my RM 125 my buddy wanted me to try is 400EX. I could barely ride it just kept hitting the rev limiter. He eventually got exhaust jet kit and aftermarket rev box omg what a difference. I actually enjoyed riding it after that totally different machine.

@chadcaudill509 3 жыл бұрын

I just got the Trx700xx...Its a MONSTER! And I also have the KFX 700....You know...the only 2 Quads you haven't had on here! So now I have a automatic and a manual...🤘 Grow a pair and get some 700s!

@ooossccar.7515 3 жыл бұрын

raptor the best 700

@leedimatteo5078 7 ай бұрын

damn was hoping Chuck would take the hit at the end of video.

@mikestowe6136 3 жыл бұрын

i understand small tires for moto or flat track but even then i always ran 23 in in the front n 22 in in the back but i did alot of woods riding and never do a garage tour you dont want everyone knowing what you have nd trying to steal your shit by taking inventory of what ya have

@TheStp77 3 жыл бұрын

Something wrong with that ltz, ive has 4, 2 ltz’s a kfx and a dvx, none of them hit the limiter like that.

@lindsayhayward4232 3 жыл бұрын

im really interested what your dad says about ripping up his lawn....lol

@dillonharkleroad3303 3 жыл бұрын

Do a top speed test on the 400ex!!

@PearlyS10 3 жыл бұрын

I think he has allready

@brianfugate8383 3 жыл бұрын

Fast or reliable give me reliable red for the WIN

@RT-vo2vh 3 жыл бұрын

I think you and chuck owe yer pops some lawn work ... maybe overseed his lawn and aerate ... rent pull behind spreader and aerator and use quads...get a few hours of content as a bonus

@Afruh6.0 3 жыл бұрын

I’m back!!!! Awesome video!!!

@manaaalsuwaidi3643 3 жыл бұрын

Having owned 3 ltz400s over the past 16 years; I can assure you that ltz400 is not running the stock gearing at all, maybe a 13T front sprocket probably, cause a stock 14T z400 is no gonna hit that rev limiter that fast! Also, you were racing all the way to 5th gear? Cause that looked like 4th gear 🤔🤔

@shotgunz124 3 жыл бұрын

I have a 07 carb and 09 fuel injection z 400 and mine don’t hit rev limit that fast they must have changed the cogs and lowered the speed u need the plug and play over ride

@mikeschlup5279 3 жыл бұрын

Hard for any air cooled to beat the tighter tolerances of a water cooler.

@aarondejonge7411 3 жыл бұрын

Love the vids, please keep posting

@koolone3791 Жыл бұрын

Ltz400 should be faster and its better than the Honda because it has reverse. Both are great for wheelies but the ltz400 shifts like butter and its very reliable. That ltz400 looks like it seen better days.

@SamyHamSam 3 жыл бұрын

Look up built from the bottom and do videos like him but with quads and dirtbikes

@firodamin9962 3 жыл бұрын

I have a 07' ltz 400 & my lil bro has a 12' 400 ex .. Suzuki is faster but honda handles better!!

@blainefrizzell2329 3 жыл бұрын

Hey everybody today on daddy pays for everything we race quads

@johnblunk6208 3 жыл бұрын

I have a 2004 kfx400 it’s bored 20 over jetted and has an hmf it’s the nicest quad I’ve owned

@davidilea7453 3 жыл бұрын

hello, i got a gilera runner st125 scooter from 2008, i was speeding when i hit a bump and my speedometer stopped working, what can i do?

@jacob_the_honda_snake 3 жыл бұрын

To fix that rev limiter thing get a after market high reving cdi its what i did with my 300ex that hit it too quick

@mzondi1970 3 жыл бұрын

Back in January I bought a brand new Foreman. My wife wanted to learn how to ride so I taught her how to ride on the foreman since it was a foot shift model. I sold my 450R Honda last week and shopping for something else. The slow trail riding we do as you know the 450 isn't really cut out for that we average around 20-25 mph at the most. I love sport bikes and was going to get another one that was better suited for trails I heard both of these are. Behind the being a little bit better on the trails? I'm not worried about topping speed as you can tell I am a Honda guy but that really doesn't make my decision which one would you buy if you're just doing slow trail riding? I don't want another utility since I got one of those already here for when I want to ride it. And it seems like the air-cooled motor would be easier to work on then a liquid cold any input you have is appreciate it

@AaronGoneWild 2 жыл бұрын

If you want a machine to take a beating deff 400ex but seems how your gonna be running it slow a lot id say ltz400 with some engine ice coolant

@AverageJosh769 2 жыл бұрын

@@AaronGoneWild i mean i beat the shit out of my 04 z400, still has all original gaskets, not a bolt has been touched on the motor, no leaks, so id say very reliable

@tibiriuscromwell8918 3 жыл бұрын

What's Chuck gonna do now that he's graduated. I'd buy either one. I live for speed. lol

@ratherberippin8861 3 жыл бұрын

Ltz about to take the dub

@KingMxP 3 жыл бұрын

You need to change your clutch plates on the ltz thats why it’s limiting so quick 👌🏻

@gabewest305 3 жыл бұрын

@deputydan2226 Жыл бұрын

He wasn't hitting the limiter he was riding the clutch.. look at 15:40 😬😂😂😂

@dereksmith5280 3 жыл бұрын

Try a different cdi on the Suzuki should help it rev higher

@JoshJackson13 9 ай бұрын

I had a yellow 04 z and a 99ex. Best thing is the reverse on the z and bigger seat. Ex wheelies better. Z is hard to wheelie with low gearing

@staygold902 3 жыл бұрын

Dvx, kfx, Ltz identical except plastic

@reddogg2828 3 жыл бұрын

Like the videos with both brothers riding together

@TREV._GC 5 ай бұрын

400ex is one of my fav quads

@HondaFoxRacing 3 жыл бұрын

Wow you still have the 400ex? Thats rare for you too keep a bike for that lol

@paytonwatkins8060 3 жыл бұрын

🔥that’s awesome dude I love the four wheelers

@EA383RM 3 жыл бұрын

You should do a top speed test on both of those quads. Record it on your phone like the other times that would be sweet

@adamj764 3 жыл бұрын

Check the frame for cracking up above the front shock mounts. Known issue

@jamiebouchard9862 3 жыл бұрын

Doesn’t it hit the rev limiter at the same exact rpm no matter what? Just gotta learn when to shift the bike

@johnwilliams6933 3 жыл бұрын

Your cdi controls the rpm setting and if it's bad then it'll limit early

@mattpenner2071 3 жыл бұрын

Cmon i think we all knew who was gonna win here😂

@_Brando_69 6 ай бұрын

I had a 400ex with K&n Air filter and a slip on fmf pipe and it felt to me like the kfx400 i had that was stock was faster. couldnt race them side by side but now ill know

@BiteTheCurbNow 2 жыл бұрын

Z400 kicks Honda ass everytime on equal playing field. The z400 is the ultimate light quad...only 3lbs less than ex but a stock z is crazy fast/geared for it's size. The ex is mehhhh....just normal mainstream stuff. In my experience of 50 plus years, it's the best bang for the buck ANY YEAR on quads.