Rebuilding a Quad Using The CHEAPEST Top End Kit. How Long Will It Last?

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Rebuilding a Quad Using The CHEAPEST Top End Kit. How Long Will It Last?

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3 жыл бұрын

I rebuild a Polaris Trailblazer 250cc quad with the cheapest piston and cylinder top end kit off of Ebay. How long with the top end kit last? #Polaris, #Test, #Cheap,
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@2vintage 3 жыл бұрын

How long will this cheap top end piston and cylinder kit (NICHE) last? Need help fixing an ATV or Dirt bike? Check out this Facebook group: facebook.com/groups/356304232071539/ Please LIKE and SUBSCRIBE if you enjoyed the video! It really helps me out a lot! Check out my Instagram: 2_vintage_ Thank you for the support!

@_T_R_E_V_O_R_ 3 жыл бұрын

Always wondered how long cheap engine parts would last and what would break first but have never tried it 😂 Could last 5 hours, could last 5 years ya never know

@2vintage 3 жыл бұрын

@@_T_R_E_V_O_R_ yeah exactly

@mrkevmulusa 3 жыл бұрын

@@2vintage Hello , do You have any street legal Dirt Bikes 4 sale ?

@2vintage 3 жыл бұрын

@@mrkevmulusa no sorry I don't

@kanerichard1279 3 жыл бұрын

@@2vintage the outlaw gone I'm guessing?

@corporalclegg914 3 жыл бұрын

I would’ve liked to’ve seen a Compression Check after the new’ish top-end was assembled & brief break-in. we’d be able to measure the gain, though it sounds great to my Ear Meter. we can’t effectively manage what we can’t measure. there’s still time…that info could benefit those considering this product, etc…

@mikemoses1009 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I have one I'm looking at $600 for 500 sportsman 4x4 said something like break pressure switch not letting it switch in to high gear any thoughts

@corporalclegg914 2 жыл бұрын

@@mikemoses1009 - unfortunately, I’m No Help here…maybe I/we could with more info, though. what trouble(s) are you experiencing?

@louisjohnsonjr.4934 3 жыл бұрын

That bike looks to be in great condition and that is rare where im from. Most are thrashed!! Good buy.

@michaelthomas788 3 жыл бұрын

Said the rings are worn out is why you're getting blow by could be the cylinders worn out or the person that you bought it from could have cheaply replaced the top in by just putting rings instead of replacing the piston and having the cylinder bored out to the next size piston cuz the city I live in is pretty big more than a million people and nobody cuts cylinders here they have to send it out to another state

@James-sir 3 жыл бұрын

Wear eye protection whenever using wire wheels sometimes the little wires fly off and will stick in your eye and it’s not a good day

@yobro4423 3 жыл бұрын

I agree . I got hit by a wire in the lip and had a hard time getting it out

@dznuttzonyachin7499 3 жыл бұрын

@@yobro4423 don't ever give a wire wheel some lip 😂

@lorollinls 3 жыл бұрын

I can confirm that this is true, from experience.

@yobro4423 3 жыл бұрын

@@dznuttzonyachin7499 I most definitely will not. She'll bite ya back😄

@TheAwmartin 2 жыл бұрын

They don’t call them “cheek pokers” for no reason.

@andrewjackson6986 3 жыл бұрын

body and frame wise best ive ever seen for what is it nice find man!!!!!

@Dada8050 3 жыл бұрын

I have a complete Niche top end with their 440 big bore kit on my 400ex and it runs amazing.

@jasonjones460 3 жыл бұрын

My son and I are fixing to do the same thing to a 04 trailblazer great vid

@layton9950 3 жыл бұрын

These Polaris four wheeler videos are my favorite ones you do

@TheSavvyCouple 2 жыл бұрын

Nice quad and loved the video. Super helpful as I replace the top end on my 1990 Polaris Trail Boss.

@falconmotorsports8323 Ай бұрын

wow that paint looks amazing!

@willcrosbie8806 3 жыл бұрын

I have one of those kits on my banshee and has been fine for the last 2.5 years

@scottmiller3025 3 жыл бұрын

I'd have put a set of rings in it and been done, unless I missed something in the process...good video

@jd0316 3 жыл бұрын

Ritter Cycle Racing is the go to for the Polaris 250, 400 and 500. FYI.

@highlightzilla9581 3 жыл бұрын

If u wanna wait weeks for parts ya definitely but if u dont wannna wait dint go to him 😂 he always backed up think he needs hire some employees

@Erix7810 10 ай бұрын

@@highlightzilla9581no doubt, you call him now and he says your order will be shipped at Easter time. I’m good.

@mrblaze8191 3 жыл бұрын

I got this kit in my trail blazer and I got 2 long rides on trails in sand and no issue so far but there are cheap quality

@manfo6577 3 жыл бұрын

Bought a 90$ kit for my 400ex (piston, cylinder gaskets..) Never had issues for two years, dogged it around. Wheelies you name it. You can even see my channel I had it wide open many times. Not one bit of compression lost. Took it apart for a 440 kit, rings still in spec, cylinder no scores. service after every 10 hours..

@2vintage 3 жыл бұрын

Good to know!

@broo_shs 3 жыл бұрын

My Buddies Polaris Trail Boss 325 Got Also Low pressure, But Reason Didn't Was In Piston Or Rings,There Was soot & Scum Between Valves And Valve Ring, So Valves Did Not Close. And some Times Just Taking Piston Out And Clean Rings

@magee16749 3 жыл бұрын

My brother had niche cylinder on his blaster and surprisingly it's made it almost a year no issues. How long they last depends a lot on being installed and broken in correctly

@TypicalGuy84 2 жыл бұрын

A year isn't very long at all.

@jeremyhanick1475 7 ай бұрын

What is amazing is I watch all your new stuff and just got this quad and wanted info on it and what do you no it's you fixing the quad I have now that's fantastic

@destruct61 3 жыл бұрын

I had a namura piston in my Suzuki Eiger that was bored 40 over and I gave that thing hell everyday only gave it like a 30 minute break in period and it was full throttle off in the woods full time after that and it ran great no problems

@richardkey4289 3 жыл бұрын

I put in a 1mm over Namura piston (67 mm) in a suzook LT230s, it runs fine , oil control ring was a pain to slide into cylinder , but 20 hard rides so far, no problem. - I make sure to warm up.my engines before hammering, fresh fuel, fresh m/c oil & filter , & fuel filter , always

@frankdodson3534 2 жыл бұрын

Hay youngman if you would take a boxed end wrench and slide it over the open end of the wrench you are banging on with the hammer and use it for Leverage I think you may find that some what easier try it. I believe you can figure it out.

@drmoretz 3 жыл бұрын

I’d like to know what kind of paint they used on the plastic, it looks really good

@gavinsholar8502 3 жыл бұрын

I have a niche cylinder and piston in my 300ex and it’s held up just fine

@yosoytdut 3 жыл бұрын

how long you been running it?

@braydenjennings4822 3 жыл бұрын

is it the 330 big bore kit

@romper4444 2 жыл бұрын

Hey man any update on that 300ex big bore kit from niche? I'm looking to buying one

@gavinsholar8502 2 жыл бұрын

@@romper4444 yeah it still runs great and still has a lot of power and I’ve beaten on it pretty hard

@m8fusion712 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome video man

@chrisharriman9017 Ай бұрын

Need to use piston to push ring down and square it up . Ring gap is off you can file them to what u did in spec.

@mikestowe6136 3 жыл бұрын

hell that looked like a quility top end kit but like ya said put a few hrs on it n see

@bradysmith5969 3 жыл бұрын

I have a 1987 polris cyclone 250 and got one in so far has not blown up lasted 1 month of every day riding the old piston had a broken intake skirt it was bad but luckily did not ruin my crankcase an the cylinder sleeves were chipping too luckily caught it early

@Davido50 3 жыл бұрын

Great! Keep gas fresh /use good premix. These oil injected..into fuel? Or traditional premix?

@bradysmith5969 3 жыл бұрын

@@Davido50 it is oil injected but I pluged it I use 40:1 mix

@thelakecommander7632 3 жыл бұрын

Wow that Polaris sounds like it’s ready to race a Banshee. Great video and content.

@wecanfixit9342 3 жыл бұрын

Idk about a banshee,lol but a pw80 sounds about right lmao but no it does sound good though

@captaindeadpool1640 Жыл бұрын

2 stroke

@shartne 3 жыл бұрын

when I suggest you paint the plastics with auto paint I got downed in comments saying it would be a shit job. but I can see now I was right it looks really nice.

@jeredalmeida1880 3 жыл бұрын

When are you gonna pick up a Cannondale 440? Would love to see you do a video on that one!

@youngbuck3535 3 жыл бұрын

Nice quad bro very clean

@jozsef6453 3 жыл бұрын

Well i bought my bike with a 50$ big bore kit half a year ago and still works fine

@grandpa-of-3898 3 жыл бұрын

Good job you where right on that bearing but do your self a favor go by a car warsh and clean some of them up before you work on them but great video 📹

@j-beatsimaginationstudio1987 3 жыл бұрын

Sounding great!

@connersnow298 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome vid and edits and filming and bikes

@2vintage 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@Gladiatorguy1998 3 жыл бұрын

That’s a clean bike.

@410fishing5 2 жыл бұрын

I like these vids like your most recent one but is there vids I’m missing more recent on if there still holding up?

@jaejae7420 Жыл бұрын

NICE QUAD! WHERE DID YOU GET THE YELLOW GUARD COVER THATS ON THE FRONT??

@FPVSlacker 3 жыл бұрын

I used a niche top end kit on my raptor 660 and the head gasket failed after less than 10 hours of riding because the cylinder sleeve dropped. This is a very common issue in these kits.

@Yamaha350w 3 жыл бұрын

Dam i miss my 500 ho scrambler 4x4 thing was a beast!

@Nate_Allen26 3 жыл бұрын

You actually listend to me when i said get a trailblazer 250

@project4stroke876 3 жыл бұрын

what do u do for the heat??? do u have a AC in your garage? dumb question. but I live in Minnesota and cannot be in my garage for long to work on my bikes cause its so damn hot.

@ionredline2006 3 жыл бұрын

I have used one of these on a $300 400ex. It has actually held great. I was afraid to spend too much if the quad would never run.

@BitcoinYooper 3 жыл бұрын

Running the $76 shipped Niche top end kit in my 400ex right now. stock bore,stock comp,, stage 2 hot cam and slip on been ripping good for 2 months. Cylinder piston kits are okay. The Niche heads are kind of questionable, machining is not consistent and softer aluminum from what I hear.

@alexferreira6081 2 жыл бұрын

Does this lit come with the cylinder jug? What is the niche part number and where did you find this kit?

@quadman9293 3 жыл бұрын

Have u herd of coparts look it up it’s so nice priced of broken down Atvs

@milesspangler2957 3 жыл бұрын

they never made a trailblazer 4x4 only 2x4 your probaly thinking of the scrambler 400 or 500 4x4

@citabria4804 3 жыл бұрын

I have a niche cylinder on my 400EX with wiseco piston and rings it has lasted like 20 hours so far

@2vintage 3 жыл бұрын

Keep us updated on how long it lasts!

@citabria4804 3 жыл бұрын

@@2vintage will do!

@sammcintire4466 3 жыл бұрын

I had the same setup I had a niche 416 cylinder and a Wiesco 11.1 piston and it lasted 3 years and was still running good when I sold it

@owenmiddlecamp6984 3 жыл бұрын

Just installed one on my 400ex runs great so far

@owenmiddlecamp6984 3 жыл бұрын

@@sammcintire4466 that’s crazy , gives me a lot more confidence haha

@worldrage619 2 жыл бұрын

I’m not certain but it looked like you had both ring gaps on the same side. Aren’t they supposed to be facing opposite sides?

@ttvpuresimp0428 3 жыл бұрын

200k here we come!

@Bri-tg6xr 3 жыл бұрын

I've done top ends on these without taking the clutch off, it's tough but it can be done. Same top end setup on the trail boss also. Please do a compression test, would like to see the change before and after.

@DJswope73 2 жыл бұрын

How?

@geopioneergsxr5357 Жыл бұрын

@@DJswope73's not even tough.. The nuts are no harder on the left side than the right side to take off.. 14mm wrench takes them all off. 100% pointless to take off the clutch. I just did it without touching any of the clutch stuff or foot rest in 5 minutes..

@MotoDoc304 Жыл бұрын

I used a niche piston in my trailboss 250. Compression was at high 60s, took apart the top end piston and rings were shot and there was a pretty good scratch on the jug. I had got the quad for less than $400 so didnt want to put too much into it. Ended up keeping that cylinder Bought the niche kit for like $40 compressions at 102 now so not high but high enough to start run and drive. Ive probably only put like an hour or two on it but its running and personally because of how easy it was to swap (took me under 2 hours) i would buy again but basically only for testing purposes. If i was going to take a long ride id swap to a wiseco. Cast pistons are too hit or miss

@sneakersoliver275 7 ай бұрын

How do you compare the trailblazer to the ATC 250r? I can’t find a ATC 250r for sale in my area so I’m thinking 2 stroke dirtbike or a trailblazer.

@txplumcrazy Жыл бұрын

I would like to see u do the carb rebuild

@actual_brog 3 жыл бұрын

You may still need to re-jet the carburetor for higher compression. Nice looking quad!

@motomedic72 Жыл бұрын

How does jetting affect compression? I think this is bad information.

@travisbellew7485 Жыл бұрын

@@motomedic72 lower compression runs leaner

@brycehickman6841 3 жыл бұрын

I did that same kit on the same motor fired instantly! Then rode it around the yard for about 20 mins then it ran away a top speed turned the ignition of and never started it agin lol sold the next day!

@tpghl5225 3 жыл бұрын

Air leak is probably what it was

@hectorsanchez2146 7 ай бұрын

What type of oil or fluid go in the front container?🙏🏻

@kurtyoung6769 3 жыл бұрын

I stopped at one minute to say "I hope you cleaned the carb. too!" That wheeler is running lean! A high quality top end wouldn't last long under those conditions.

@mmaaddict78 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I didn’t see any smoke coming out of the exhaust when he fired it up.

@2vintage 3 жыл бұрын

@@mmaaddict78 pump wasn't working.

@mmaaddict78 3 жыл бұрын

@@2vintage Ah, that’ll do it!

@ty717atv4 3 жыл бұрын

thanks for the content

@74elsinore 3 жыл бұрын

I'm surprised you didn't just re-ring the piston and call it good. Good job as always though. keep up the good work

@ZaidenGoltry Ай бұрын

I want to thank you. taday has not been a good day. I was riding my polaris scrabler 400 2 stroke, and my cylenter and piston ate the shiter and.this video gives me hope my Atv will still last:)

@calinmanasturean9774 3 жыл бұрын

I really want to see you on a yamaha wolverine 450

@christopherburton4623 10 ай бұрын

Where does the vent from the new head go?

@joshuacoyle6584 3 жыл бұрын

So close to 200k

@andrewstahl6916 3 жыл бұрын

Duuuuuudeee my family used to have one, it was white and yellow. First 2 stroke full sized bike I ever rode. We named it the monster, but we ended up selling it to buy a better bike for trails

@Ateyoshmoes 3 жыл бұрын

Sometimes i think polaris makes some of the weirdest quads ever... Like who makes a 250 2 stroke trail and sport quad with reverse, electric start, and an auto transmission. Probably convenient but i think would just go with a race quad

@2vintage 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah it's pretty weird lol

@claytongowin9897 3 жыл бұрын

They are very fun tho for what they are

@reggiexp69 3 жыл бұрын

yeha them trail boss are wierd 2 stroke automatic quads.... very odd i find them and often broken for sale :)

@nicksmith-rz2dl Жыл бұрын

Lol gotta remember they started out make snowmobile so they kinda just slapped the engines in the quads or should say the three wheelers that where the grandfather and frankly the only ones that where automatic.

@austindial4572 Жыл бұрын

Where’d you get the plastics from?

@ericsilverware4561 3 жыл бұрын

Sharp quad gonna be a good resale for you

@chaddowns4680 3 жыл бұрын

Be cool to see ya get some old school shit. Like Rm370,PE250 etc..

@heathgrisham500 Жыл бұрын

Where can I find that brush gaurd?

@orionwarren4244 3 жыл бұрын

'Gotta get DEEZ NUTZ on now' 31:41 LoL

@colestella7856 3 жыл бұрын

Hey your almost at 200k subs

@samael3223 3 жыл бұрын

Nice quad

@jonbaggarly6969 3 жыл бұрын

Man I got a whole kit identical to that for my sport 400 and I did everything per manual instructions and I've had to work on it since there too soft

@2vintage 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I used the oem top rod bearing off the quad. I hear the bearing is the fail point on these kits.

@jonbaggarly6969 3 жыл бұрын

@@2vintage oh yea no matter how much oil or assembly lube they heat up sooo quick I've put 3 together in the past couple years and I have 3 junk wrist pin bearings all heated on first start up

@marcos22571 8 ай бұрын

Where did you buy the stickers?

@jonnyonwheels 3 жыл бұрын

Is this a customers bike or one you bought?

@zaneclark5226 3 жыл бұрын

sounds like it's running rich, try coming a quarter turn out on the air/fuel screw

@BiggieEighth 3 жыл бұрын

It’s lean lmao

@adamace2002 2 жыл бұрын

where did you get those platics from

@Aidan-xy8jq 3 жыл бұрын

Hi @2vintage I’m looking at a 99 KTM 200exc and I saw u once had one just wondering if it’s a good bike to buy thx

@2vintage 3 жыл бұрын

Mine wasn't that great. It depends how the previous owner cared for it.

@Aidan-xy8jq 3 жыл бұрын

@@2vintage ok thanks

@larrywarner9314 3 жыл бұрын

My opinion I'd just buy a new oem or pro x piston kit hone the original cylinder and put it back together instead of using inferior parts .

@2vintage 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah not my quad. The guy who owned the quad wanted me to install the kit.

@pastorjaviergonzalez8318 Жыл бұрын

Where can I get that cheap cylinder and piston kit? Can you share that??

@rabbyredpath3598 3 жыл бұрын

Those are getting hard to find, polaris trail blazer 250 2 smoker

@royhenson3379 3 жыл бұрын

Let's Go 200k

@michaelthomas788 3 жыл бұрын

Your so-called primary and secondary clutches is actually a CVT transmission or torque converter they work the same way as the RPM increases the belt increases in size creating a bigger front sprocket smaller rear sprocket like a bicycle gearing concept but automatically changes depending on RPM

@0001Noah 2 жыл бұрын

I know it's an old video but I wanted to ask anyway. When you're running it before the rebuild you can hear a rattling type noise, and after the rebuild it goes away. Do you know what this sound is? Is it piston slap? My machine makes the exact same noise before and after I replaced the piston but not the cylinder, I just lightly honed it.

@CarlosC77 Жыл бұрын

It's your cam chain, I have a 00 trailboss I am replacing because of that right now. Same exact sound

@0001Noah Жыл бұрын

@@CarlosC77 The one in the video and mine are both 250 2 strokes. I continued to ride mine but it had running issues and wouldn't start hot. I had to get the cylinder bored over. Noise gone, so it was piston slap from a worn out cylinder in case anyone else wants to know.

@CarlosC77 Жыл бұрын

@@0001Noah Oh I totally forgot they made 2 stroke trailbosses lol! Thanks

@Wonkawiz 3 жыл бұрын

If your point was to test the durability of the cheap kit for your viewers, why would you reinstall OEM parts?

@supertryhard2236 3 жыл бұрын

@2vintage I got a 87 yz125 and has low compression but I’ve changed the piston and rings do you know what could be wrong?

@andrewbartleman9169 3 жыл бұрын

How are you testing compression? Throttle open? Could it be your gauge?

@aroncurtis7874 3 жыл бұрын

Did u sell the Yamaha warrior?

@creekfishermenoutdoors936 2 жыл бұрын

What size piston is in this

@TypicalGuy84 2 жыл бұрын

What's the update on this quad? How's that NICHE holding up?

@reitzy69 2 жыл бұрын

Be doing a top end rebuild on my tb250 now...97 and owned since new and it after all these years now little to no compression....going with a Namura piston kit

@carterfou Жыл бұрын

Where are these plastics from?????

@yungBitta291 3 жыл бұрын

My ocd would never let me put that rusty dirty head pipe on it and that side of the motor would be wire wheeled to and painted

@tomatoknuckles 3 жыл бұрын

One of my pet peeves about this channel is he never cleans stuff he's about to work on. I bet alot of shit falls down to the crank and in cylinders. Very messy "mechanic"

@thetwostrokerebuilder 3 жыл бұрын

Those have double crank bearing on clutch side that go bad . I've done alot of these engines with that problem over the years. Causes air leak won't run right and top ends won't last long. Not saying yours is just saying 🔧🔧

@Davido50 3 жыл бұрын

Good pt!

@ericsmith9988 3 жыл бұрын

He should vacuum and pressure check before and after a rebuild to check for leaks

@Erlov71 3 жыл бұрын

Thats basically me everytime i go on ebay for parts for my bikes lmao

@mrkevmulusa 3 жыл бұрын

Hello , do You have any street legal Dirt Bikes 4 sale ?

@DM-te3cj 2 жыл бұрын

Bro dont use blades to take old gaskets off u can take away the metal doin so use a propa tool

@megamindtvsydney3967 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome!!

@GYPSY400 3 жыл бұрын

I would have replaced the rings with OEM and honed the cylinder then Sent it!!

@Chris_yfz 3 жыл бұрын

And the yfz?

@sheldonbollenbach2075 3 жыл бұрын

2 stroke rings dont float.they stay fixed by the pins in the piston grooves.i would think ring gap would be irelevant.

@tpghl5225 3 жыл бұрын

Most rings come pre gapped on top end kits but it’s always a good idea to check.

@SuperBigdanno 2 жыл бұрын

They still need room to expand at the ring tips, sometimes you have to file them a little to make the gap correct. BTW he did not check the gap the proper way any how, need to square the ring in the bore with the piston skirt not by eye