Rebuilt Honda Dirt Bike Blows Up First Ride. What Went Wrong?

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23 күн бұрын

I buy a 2006 Honda CRF250R dirt bike that locks up first ride. #Honda, #Dirtbike, #Fix,
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@xl600mine
@xl600mine 22 күн бұрын
the seller who rebuilt it, forgot to fully install the wrist pin retaining clip, the wrist pin worked its way out, got caught on the bottom of the cylinder bending the connecting rod and cracking the piston. that is why only half of the piston is cracked off
@ronstoltz4788
@ronstoltz4788 22 күн бұрын
Absolutely Agree
@CoraxMaximus
@CoraxMaximus 22 күн бұрын
That's what I think, seller installed one retaining clip and forgot to install the other one.
@jmaxim80
@jmaxim80 22 күн бұрын
I agree. I've seen it before. You wouldn't think a little clip would do so much damage, but it will tear a motor to pieces.
@larrylyke4795
@larrylyke4795 22 күн бұрын
Yep, explains the damage to piston and cylinder on one side.
@Adam-banshee-man
@Adam-banshee-man 22 күн бұрын
Sorry I didn't see your comment at the time I posted my comment I've seen this before most likely failure to install wrist pin clip or it could have had spiral clips and wasn't installed correctly
@jeredalmeida1880
@jeredalmeida1880 22 күн бұрын
After watching this entirely, I'm willing to bet that one of the wrist pin clips wasn't fully seated. Whoever rebuilt this engine forgot to listen for the snap.
@user-hj5ml8rr8u
@user-hj5ml8rr8u 22 күн бұрын
or properly seated .. see my comment below..
@MostWantedOHA
@MostWantedOHA 22 күн бұрын
i totally Agree w/ you . Wrist Pin FAILURE !!! ''''''''''
@jasonmushmansixtyfive
@jasonmushmansixtyfive 22 күн бұрын
Or was never installed. Ring debris should still be in the case.
@EightyFiveBen
@EightyFiveBen 22 күн бұрын
Yeah your theory lines up with the evidence. Thinking the same thing at this point
@seatroutadventures9492
@seatroutadventures9492 22 күн бұрын
I agree
@lauriegraham2790
@lauriegraham2790 22 күн бұрын
Before I looked at the comments I had come to the exact same conclusion that the wrist pin clip had not been installed on the one side. I'll wager that you won't find any evidence of the second clip in the motor. Thanks for your content, I love it
@shedenvy691
@shedenvy691 21 күн бұрын
I bet the other retaining clip is still in the piston
@GTAADDICT3D
@GTAADDICT3D 22 күн бұрын
That result is every motor enthusiast's worst nightmare. Good diagnosis and video! Looking forward to watching the rebuild.
@MM_in_Havasu
@MM_in_Havasu 22 күн бұрын
All these 4-stroke MX bikes are throwaway engines. Part it out and cut your losses, Joe.
@6thPinnedProductions
@6thPinnedProductions 21 күн бұрын
agreed
@Dyna-mite154
@Dyna-mite154 11 күн бұрын
I mean if you’re not mechanically inclined then sure.
@JohnDoeEagle1
@JohnDoeEagle1 9 күн бұрын
It's a 4-stroke.....part it out and take your losses. If it was a 2-stroke it would be worth rebuilding and saving. Eventually the manufacturers and everybody will get the memo dirt bikes are meant to be 2-stroke NOT 4-stroke. You can see first hand how unnecessarily complicated this junk turd is after he starts tearing it down. More parts, more complicated....less reliable and more to go wrong and way more money to fix.
@jeredalmeida1880
@jeredalmeida1880 22 күн бұрын
That sound of a four stroke seizing is as fear inducing as the thought of erectile dysfunction.
@Unemployed_Jedi
@Unemployed_Jedi 22 күн бұрын
The screeching sound of metal against metal coming from the cylinder is far worse.
@jeredalmeida1880
@jeredalmeida1880 22 күн бұрын
@@Unemployed_Jedi Yes! That's the sound that makes you play some Taylor Swift just to stop the pain in your ears.
@galvidmar1247
@galvidmar1247 22 күн бұрын
It's even worse when you hear a two stroke seizing up
@stkyfngrszmooth
@stkyfngrszmooth 22 күн бұрын
​@@jeredalmeida1880I'd rather listen to the engine exploding over and over.
@jeredalmeida1880
@jeredalmeida1880 22 күн бұрын
@@stkyfngrszmooth 🤣 It's like the engine keeps making the same mistakes and writing a song about it every time.
@tenortrouble
@tenortrouble 22 күн бұрын
Wrist pin clip fell out is my first thought
@davessparetime83
@davessparetime83 22 күн бұрын
You can see on the bottom right side of cylinder wall where the Piston pin scraped and caused piston to break. Like others have said it looks like the wrist pin clip wasn't installed all the way and fell off causing pin to slide out catching cylinder wall and or just caused piston pin journal to break.
@mikeandrews1899
@mikeandrews1899 22 күн бұрын
I could conceraningly hear it knocking when you started it up
@mikewhitley1183
@mikewhitley1183 22 күн бұрын
I've owned motorcycles all my life and I have never seen that happen before !!!!!! Just because it's new doesn't name that is a good part !!
@stkyfngrszmooth
@stkyfngrszmooth 22 күн бұрын
Here's why I always double-check customer work. Admittedly, finding a misplaced wrist pin clip would've been impossible to see without a complete teardown, which I likely wouldn't have done, so I would've had the same result as Joe. I always hated dealing with other people's lack of mechanical knowledge.
@craigdalzell2908
@craigdalzell2908 22 күн бұрын
He makes his money on other people's lack of ability , but he didn't win on this one !!
@EightyFiveBen
@EightyFiveBen 22 күн бұрын
Thanks Joe for taking one for the team!
@stkyfngrszmooth
@stkyfngrszmooth 22 күн бұрын
@@craigdalzell2908 Not at all. If I were him I wouldn't bother with this engine and I'd just buy a replacement one instead. I'm sure it would be much cheaper and he wouldn't have to spend who knows how many hours tearing it down completely. He'd have to so he could get all of those loose metal fragments out of the engine entirely. I would never take the chance of just fishing out what I could see and cross my fingers for the rest.
@BillStraub303
@BillStraub303 22 күн бұрын
I agree with other commenters the wrist pin was likely floating in there before you even got the bike started. Enjoy the videos, great work.
@Hammerback972
@Hammerback972 22 күн бұрын
From the last video, there were 50 professional small engine builders that declared "but the timing chain is slapping the case", "Im deaf in both eyes, and blind in my left ear, and my hearing eye dog told me the timing chain was on upside down!"
@biker6991
@biker6991 22 күн бұрын
That's what my laundry basket said too....
@MiBurnout
@MiBurnout 22 күн бұрын
​@@biker6991🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Danman1972
@Danman1972 22 күн бұрын
Yes, you guess like I did, but until you take it apart you won't know. I'm not engine builder, but I've rebuilt a few and also snapped a cam chain. Sounded just like that. Lucky I was kicking the motor slow It started and then popped. It snapped and wadded up. We pushed it to a road and my buddy used his foot on my muffler to push me back to the truck.
@fraserm803
@fraserm803 22 күн бұрын
Yep i commented and thought it was cam chain...own it. Its good to learn.
@bananabrooks3836
@bananabrooks3836 22 күн бұрын
There was a strange noise emanating long before the 'blow up' though.
@user-fi3fx5my2s
@user-fi3fx5my2s 22 күн бұрын
Had bent rod situation about a year ago, could find parts, European junk. Heated rod a bit, used the press and got it back straight as an arrow. Ran fine after, still running today!! Crazy, was a hail Mary but it frkn worked. Setting up to straighten was the pain.
@EightyFiveBen
@EightyFiveBen 22 күн бұрын
Nice. Did you Hail Mary the crank without a truing stand?
@thebigguy8306
@thebigguy8306 22 күн бұрын
Great video, with lots of learning moments. 😭No riding today. Keep working on the problem, your patience and skills are amazing.
@h_sky1045
@h_sky1045 22 күн бұрын
The crank is from Hot rods. I rebuild a yz250f and the rod had the same id system. If you search for hot rods connecting rod 616 you’ll find visibly identical cranks for the crf250r.
@mrutherford8590
@mrutherford8590 22 күн бұрын
Looks like a clip popped out and the pin slid to one side and hit the cylinder and bent the rod.
@williamstirton1814
@williamstirton1814 22 күн бұрын
If I had to guess the E clip came off and let the pin slide over to the wall and break one ear. Or maybe there was only one E clip. I am 67 years old and have been working on motorcycles for 55 years.And I still learn stuff from you all the time. Keep up the good work. And I wish when I was young I would have had the job you do.👍
@scpatriot5270
@scpatriot5270 22 күн бұрын
Im 49 this is why i prefer simple two stroke engines no timing chains or camshafts. 👍🇺🇸
@scpatriot5270
@scpatriot5270 22 күн бұрын
@@lesoram6236 were talking about motor cycles 👍
@250race
@250race 22 күн бұрын
​@@lesoram6236 I did for 15 years
@Eric--zs6um
@Eric--zs6um 22 күн бұрын
I'm 55 and and won't buy a new 4 stroke. 2 strokes are cheaper(especially pre nikasil).
@BigDirtDawg
@BigDirtDawg 22 күн бұрын
@@lesoram6236do you drive a 4 stroke car?? O ok 😂
@dexietyy7922
@dexietyy7922 22 күн бұрын
Same you can’t beat them. So simple and much faster plus they sound amazing
@Adam-banshee-man
@Adam-banshee-man 22 күн бұрын
I can tell you what happened with 100% certainty as I have seen this before what happened was whoever rebuilt it either forgot to put one of the wrist pin clips in or it wasn't put in correctly the pin walked its way out of the one pin bore and then once that happens there's so much stress on the one side of the pin bore it will break and bend the rod at the same time as the load is only on one side of the rod bending it with 100% certainty that is absolutely what happened there clearly someone put it together that did not know what they were doing
@TheMhr650
@TheMhr650 22 күн бұрын
No question, first failure was piston pin retaining clip coming loose
@dubiousf00d
@dubiousf00d 22 күн бұрын
The real carnage starts around the 27:00 mark for those impatient to know.
@madhampster
@madhampster 22 күн бұрын
Clip was not put in all the way and it fell out and the the wrist pin backed out. Then Boom.
@FourIntoOne
@FourIntoOne 22 күн бұрын
It didn't "let go 2 seconds into the ride" it was already letting go before you even swung a leg over it. Im still amazed that you got on the bike and then thrased it when the knock was so clear to hear it was ridiculous. Had you had an once of mechanical sympathy you could maybe have saved it.
@peterh2224
@peterh2224 21 күн бұрын
Have to agree with you. Noise was quite evident when it was running...
@matttaylor373
@matttaylor373 22 күн бұрын
when it let go i definently thought the timing chain broke, thats pretty crazy.Thanks for the videos love how you break things down!!!
@donkndave7811
@donkndave7811 22 күн бұрын
WOW! What a blow up! Joe, you should do you next video on this bike on how fast you can rebuilt a motor. No talking, just getting at it. That would be fun to watch.
@theelectricunicyclist9069
@theelectricunicyclist9069 22 күн бұрын
Never happen. Must talk and do it the hard way. Watch Allen Millyard.
@DealinDmg
@DealinDmg 21 күн бұрын
It's nice to read these comments, which seem to be 100% accurate on the reason the engine failed. It's unfortunate when a newly rebuilt engine fails in such a short amount of time. But, knowing why it happened is priceless knowledge. Love and appreciate your content.
@JamesThompson-us1mk
@JamesThompson-us1mk 22 күн бұрын
FYI, Something I'm sure you know. Top end rebuilds only you need to pull the engine out flush out down inside the crank area with diesel fuel. Work the crank by hand really well (for a few minutes) Turn engine upside down, continue working the crank (round and round) Both directions too. Blow out wit air well Repeat Repeat Repeat Get all metal chunks, spers, flakes out This is a must Good work
@single.tracked
@single.tracked 22 күн бұрын
If there are metal chunks or flakes, you need to split the cases and clean everything properly. Not just “flush it out with diesel fuel”
@vesandreev8500
@vesandreev8500 22 күн бұрын
Only if it's a 2-stroke. If it's a 4-stroke - they have oil and coolant passages that might be clogged and/or screen filters clogged too.
@davidmcouch7453
@davidmcouch7453 22 күн бұрын
You should have probably checked the other guys work before starting it. He apparently did not have a clue what he was doing!
@Fox250R
@Fox250R 22 күн бұрын
He never checks he’d rather it blow up so he has a video to post
@user-dv3tw1yq2r
@user-dv3tw1yq2r 22 күн бұрын
Much like the buyer. Never see any of this junk sold “running perfectly”
@jacksonms212
@jacksonms212 22 күн бұрын
Thanks for the vod !
@JosueRodriguez-gf4hz
@JosueRodriguez-gf4hz 20 күн бұрын
Hey Joe I want to say I’ve been watching your videos since you were at 100k subs you’ve come a very long way but very worth it you deserve everything you’ve achieved I learn something from almost every video keep it up! 500k on the way!
@deanchapman4337
@deanchapman4337 14 күн бұрын
Great diagnostics video as usual . Thanks !
@module79l28
@module79l28 22 күн бұрын
If you don't have a borescope camera yet, it's time to get one. 🙂
@leodurivage4411
@leodurivage4411 22 күн бұрын
Never trust some one's engine rebuild. I learned from years of experience working at a dealer ship.
@snowyowl7042
@snowyowl7042 22 күн бұрын
I fixed some things but have this box of parts
@steveharris6916
@steveharris6916 22 күн бұрын
Nailed it
@gags730
@gags730 22 күн бұрын
Especially after they 'Rebuild it' and can't get it running ever again. So much so that they give up and sell the bike. The wreaks of inexperience!
@jimw6991
@jimw6991 21 күн бұрын
Well said. I think the lesson here is if someone disassembles something and reassembles and it doesn't work you need to completely start over. Take apart everything they touched, clean and inspect. ​ Reassemble adding whatever new parts are needed. I learned the hard way as a major engine and transmission repair tech at dealership that when you skip steps to save time, many times you get a catastrophic failure. I like Joe's content, someday he will learn this lesson including buying an ultrasonic parts cleaner, pressure washer, solvent tank, etc. His rebuilt engines will run, but not last. I hope Joe reads these comments and takes them to heart. @gags730
@gags730
@gags730 21 күн бұрын
@@jimw6991 ... we all learned the hard way! If we can get just 1 person to learn the easy way! LOL BTW Great Comment... I have left many posts in the past asking why he does not buy the right equipment. For the life of me I have no idea why this guy does not have an ultrasonic cleaner either.. a large one at that. I have two, and they were not expensive. Heck buy it direct from China if ya have to. I have a pressure washer, and about 6 or 7 years ago I installed a Mini 20 Gallon Electric Water heater for the power washer... You can't beat hot water power washing. The heater was like $250 and I installed it myself. He needs a proper Bike Lift too! Where he can even sit on a stool and work like a gentleman. With the volume of bikes this man works on, it makes no sense the things he is missing. He is more worried about a spark plug tester. You nailed it with rebuilding. You have to make everything spotless. You could put all the best parts in, spend top dollar but if anything contaminates that engine it will not last. Too many people put engines back together in a dirty environment. It should be like surgery in a hospital when you put it back together and everything needs to be clean. Everything! How many times you see someone all crazy with the assembly lube and oiling everything and yet everything is dirty and contaminated? It's crazy!
@finster7582
@finster7582 22 күн бұрын
wrist pin clip wasnt snapped in !!! YOU GOT LUCKY !!! engine immediately stopped instead of metal chunks taking out the cases and everything else!! 😃👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@Jop_Kop
@Jop_Kop 10 күн бұрын
I have learned a lot already. Thanks 2vintage.
@mrsmith4662
@mrsmith4662 21 күн бұрын
I must say, if this happened to my bike (and I have one of that vintage), I think I'd be inclined to just scrap it and save all the bother. However, it's great to see someone with more patience and enthusiasm at work.
@chele-chele
@chele-chele 22 күн бұрын
Vertex cast piston, Italian engineering =)
@robertocrf2164
@robertocrf2164 22 күн бұрын
You s*ck , i have used vertex in 5 dirt bikes and no problems runs f*king good man no smoke, here in the video it was a mistake of the guy who rebuilt the engine and didn't install the pin from the piston bolt correctly
@restrothunderroad
@restrothunderroad 22 күн бұрын
Dude, you're deep down in the bones a real work horse. You could take 3 months off and I'd still be here playing catch up on videos. haha
@royhenson3379
@royhenson3379 22 күн бұрын
Wow! I did not expect it to let loose like that. I thought the timing chain broke, but man was I wrong.
@stevewood1728
@stevewood1728 19 күн бұрын
Great tear down. I’d love to see the research you do to find good replacement parts. Might make a good filler video for those looking to do their own repair.
@jozsef6453
@jozsef6453 22 күн бұрын
On one hand its insane how much damage can that little circlip do. I have never heard about this happening in a 4 stroke. On the other hand thats why you should not ride with the engine sounding like a coffee grinder.
@CaptainZedful
@CaptainZedful 20 күн бұрын
Excellent video, this was really interesting to watch. Bummer on the carnage in that motor, what a mess. Thanks for the video loving the content.
@garygreen1670
@garygreen1670 21 күн бұрын
I have watched your videos for a long time and enjoy them. Thank you. I've never seen a piston give away like that. So like the other grease monkeys I say it has to be the wrist pin clip was not installed. Good job again my friend.
@codyjohnson27
@codyjohnson27 22 күн бұрын
Love your content Keep up the good work
@C-C-777
@C-C-777 22 күн бұрын
Other guy forgot to put a clip in the wrist pin...
@paullesarge4126
@paullesarge4126 21 күн бұрын
Excellent tear down video
@2turbos4u
@2turbos4u 22 күн бұрын
I've seen this before. They either forgot one or both of the wrist pin 35:45 clips. Or did not get the clip properly into the groove. When the wrist pin slides over it puts all the stress on one eyelet of the bottom of the piston and that's why it broke.
@zackk695
@zackk695 21 күн бұрын
What a video! You have a great attitude as well towards seeing something that can be devastating. I hope you had the funds to rebuild it because at this point you would have a new engine that would last many years. I sure hope I can find a video of you putting it back together
@greathornedowl3644
@greathornedowl3644 22 күн бұрын
Props to you for putting Humpty Dumpty back together again. Ditto, like many other commenters I would also run away from someone else's rebuild, now you are depending on their level of skills. "I have all these unnecessary parts leftover"
@1970genes
@1970genes 22 күн бұрын
What a lot of damage from what is likely misinstalled wrist pin clip. Sadly, the cost of parts to repair makes this not such a good deal.
@ragnarironspear1791
@ragnarironspear1791 22 күн бұрын
Been looking forward to this one .
@rjmockett
@rjmockett 21 күн бұрын
Great stuff and I’d agree re the gudgen pin (as we Brits call it ) came loose after the circlip came loose . I have seen a piston loose like this when riding Enfield in the Himalayas . On one that was running rough the crown of the piston had broken away from the body of the piston !! It ran badly but was fixed by putting a new piston in . Those bikes are tough , which is what you need in those remote areas . Love your stuff
@richardstone5241
@richardstone5241 22 күн бұрын
When someone says they "rebuilt" an engine but it won't start you can bet it was done wrong! So, when you hear rebuilt you should tear the whole thing down to make sure it was done right or ....learn the hard way that it wasn't.
@DOINKS-R-USS
@DOINKS-R-USS 22 күн бұрын
Great Chanel Great build 🙏🖤
@scottmoodysr9449
@scottmoodysr9449 21 күн бұрын
😂I predicted the wrist pin in some manner ❤ I was close! Great videos Joe and as always keep it up
@Massiverobsfishing
@Massiverobsfishing 22 күн бұрын
I watched the last video on this but the start on this for you bro blew me away bro.
@matthewtrudeau1197
@matthewtrudeau1197 21 күн бұрын
You're like a surgeon with that motor . Nice work.
@stephenpurcell7433
@stephenpurcell7433 22 күн бұрын
I was not expecting that. That was crazy
@vindejon7097
@vindejon7097 22 күн бұрын
I never seen that happen, that is such a bummer. I would change the main bearings too, just to be sure. Great video again, Big Up!
@mattwow
@mattwow 22 күн бұрын
Jkjk love your vids and constant content brother keep up the good work
@YetiShots
@YetiShots 22 күн бұрын
That’s amazing I’ve never seen that kind of failure before.
@snowyowl7042
@snowyowl7042 22 күн бұрын
Bravo, you get to put someone's puzzle together
@grantcoles8830
@grantcoles8830 22 күн бұрын
Early four stroke MXers> HAND GRENADE and not cheap to fix
@Ramcat_Vlogs
@Ramcat_Vlogs 22 күн бұрын
This is why they say that 99% of people can’t build a motor lol
@jcondon1
@jcondon1 22 күн бұрын
Would be interesting to see what the ring end gap was. Maybe it caused the piston to seize in the bore when the engine heated up?
@tgcrissy7327
@tgcrissy7327 22 күн бұрын
I knew right away from the first video that the thingamabob next ro the whatchacallit broke rightaway buuutttt i didn't say anything because i didn't want to be a know-it-all.Love your videos Joe!!
@michaelthomas2271
@michaelthomas2271 19 күн бұрын
great video as always. Joe, dont what your "day job" is but it must be a good one. these things are pricey to fix.
@luuk-out-below9804
@luuk-out-below9804 22 күн бұрын
The crf250 send and mend series.... Stuff happens. Looking forward to the rebuild Joe !
@mark120964
@mark120964 22 күн бұрын
Cant wait to watch rebuild Mark
@1ksquid07rr6
@1ksquid07rr6 21 күн бұрын
Yup..... retainer didn't seat and the pin walked out enough have the load all on the broke side. Good stuff!!
@ericrolland9092
@ericrolland9092 15 күн бұрын
New rod, piston, cylinder, and valves. Clean it up good, lap in new valves and put it all back together and should be fine. Good video
@Ulster-1690
@Ulster-1690 22 күн бұрын
Happy Days Joe Has Posted 🔥🔥🔥
@oscr_zen
@oscr_zen 22 күн бұрын
Ohh that was another gold turn of events. It sucks to happen to you, but makes for a great video. Crazy stuff. Reminds me of exploding Piston.
@stuartphillips430
@stuartphillips430 22 күн бұрын
Great autopsy joe as usual,but all I keep thinking about is my desire for that elsinore in the background! Cheers 🍻
@stevenmcinnis8105
@stevenmcinnis8105 22 күн бұрын
Thanks for the vids goes to show that sometime we win, and sometimes we lose.
@bogger_welder
@bogger_welder 22 күн бұрын
Hey Joe where goin with that gun in your hand. In my best jimi hendrix voice 😢
@jakejones9502
@jakejones9502 22 күн бұрын
Looks like the wrist pin clip wasn't in place or popped off on one side.
@LOOKOUT2012
@LOOKOUT2012 22 күн бұрын
Exactly What I came here to say! Spot on!
@richardbakos4970
@richardbakos4970 21 күн бұрын
Agree. Piston pin clip/s came out. Seen that before. Cylinder tells the story
@alexmacdonald258
@alexmacdonald258 22 күн бұрын
WOW!! Quite a mess there, Joe! I think I'd agree with jeredalmedia 1880-the wrist pin clip didn't seat on that one side. You have to pay attention to the small details, which will save your attention from being distracted by the disaster to follow, if you don't.
@pagas5002
@pagas5002 22 күн бұрын
first i am studying to be a mechanic I live in greece so sorry for the bad English so what probably happened was piston bend the valve and then probably because of the high rpm piston gave in and broke that's a nightmare it was a fresh rebuild so something was wrong from the first place from the rebuild re last owner did its only a guess. nice video tho its nice watching video with clean explanations keep up from me I love you videos
@yamahakid450f
@yamahakid450f 21 күн бұрын
People saying the previous owner didn't install the retaining clip, he did, if he can rebuild it himself he knows about a retaining clip...but he probably put it in vertically or it accidentally spun enough which allowed it to expand and pop out while under pressure... turn it the opposite way and it'll only get tighter while under pressure. I've seen many clips pop off because of improper install. It doesn't help when the bike is idling to the absolute moon before ever giving it throttle, on a brand new engine with no heat cycles. It's far better for no idle at all and just leave the throttle open enough to keep it from stalling, than it is idling like that... turn it to where it doesn't idle, then turn the screw just enough until its just on this side of stalling, you do not need a high idle. It sounded terrible before it ever grenaded. He revs the piss out of everything, doesn't matter if it's new or not, cold start or hot, just wide open continous blips or idling super high while also giving it wide open blips. I've yet to hear a properly tuned crisp 2 stroke on the channel, yet every time, "it sounds perfect" noooo... I either hear it being way too rich or detonating. Like this he said sounded great, no it didn't. He's a great mechanic and good at diagnosing issues, without a doubt, but jetting and knowing what a properly tuned bike sounds like is not it.. jetting from a piece of paper will get you in the ball park, the fine tuning is done by ear.
@Odder-Being
@Odder-Being 21 күн бұрын
This comment is ace 💯 Exactly how i see Joe. A couple times i thought to my self, this dude must be deaf for real.
@jimw6991
@jimw6991 21 күн бұрын
​@@Odder-BeingPerhaps you guys can post a video with a good audio and explain your process. Not revving a freshly started engine, absolutely. Having a high idle so it doesn't stall also normal. Once it hits operating temp tapping throttle (not redlining) can help seat rings and identify if carb is working as intended. So Joe has plenty of room for improvement, but in his defense I can't hear these noises people speak of unless my phones audio just isn't up to task. So if it sounds normal, doesn't bog, spit, pop, etc., and a fresh plug turns tan after riding an hour isn't his tuning darn close? I would agree with his usual starting procedure and how he breaks in fresh engines would get him talked to if he worked for me. But I get to watch him make mistakes, for free, and get these old machines running and I learn what not to do as well.
@louisjohnsonjr.4934
@louisjohnsonjr.4934 21 күн бұрын
Just a idea for you. Buy you a shipping container to keep your toys in at home. It's far cheaper then buying a building and lasts longer then anything you could purchase to store your things. They go for very good deals and that includes shipping them to your home. Plus you won't have to worry about storage fees and all your things will be at home at hands reach. Just a suggestion that will pay off in the long run and I have gotten one for 2500 with it being shipped to my home. So something to think about buddy.
@carlmay3396
@carlmay3396 22 күн бұрын
I think the casting on the piston where it attaches to the rod failed because it didn't let loose until you tried to ride it so when it had a load on it is when that part failed. You can tell Joe has rebuilt so many motors he can take them apart and know where every gear goes. When this bike is rebuilt its going to be a good one. Hope he can get 3k for it when he sells it to make some money for all that work.
@ralphreynolds4803
@ralphreynolds4803 21 күн бұрын
Wow, I am FLOORED!!! Lesson LEARNED!!!!
@svoctopus4888
@svoctopus4888 22 күн бұрын
It looks like all of us agree. The clevis ring was not fully seated.
@kilianvanrooijen9388
@kilianvanrooijen9388 20 күн бұрын
super cool video, but on what platform do you look to find a good bike to buy??
@brianstroud6306
@brianstroud6306 21 күн бұрын
Tuff luck on this one but could have been so much worse. Great job brother keep it up
@AZVIDS
@AZVIDS 22 күн бұрын
Wow! Nice necropsy!👍
@Odder-Being
@Odder-Being 22 күн бұрын
"What the hell happened here" I tell you Joe, you revved it to the moon when the engine made knocking sounds so loud you could hear it wearing ear mufflers.
@k-mc94
@k-mc94 22 күн бұрын
🤣
@biker6991
@biker6991 22 күн бұрын
I heardit and I am in Scotland!!! 😂😂😂
@k-mc94
@k-mc94 22 күн бұрын
@@biker6991 Aye, it was loud as fook here in Aberdeen
@jeredalmeida1880
@jeredalmeida1880 22 күн бұрын
@@k-mc94 "Curse me kilts, laddy!"
@k-mc94
@k-mc94 22 күн бұрын
@@jeredalmeida1880 😂
@t-bone43
@t-bone43 22 күн бұрын
Soon as you started it in the field I could hear it knocking like a madman. It was letting go but you rode it & finished it off
@groove372gram7
@groove372gram7 22 күн бұрын
Totally agree, c clip on wrist pin
@alexandresimoes8714
@alexandresimoes8714 22 күн бұрын
Man, i really like your videos... It really pushs to work on my bikes! I have a suggestion regarding the title of the videos... Why don't you put the name of the bike or At Least if its part 1or 2????
@jasoncompton3735
@jasoncompton3735 22 күн бұрын
Good troubleshooting Joe! Personally I’d rather jump off a bridge than work on a early CRF or YZF
@ZenWithKen
@ZenWithKen 22 күн бұрын
Wrist pin clip for the win! 🙂
@scaranogaryj
@scaranogaryj 22 күн бұрын
Yup! I was gonna say wrist pin clip, had to be it!
@waffalobill
@waffalobill 22 күн бұрын
Think its sp tools makes a adapter to put on you extensions and sockets for hammering on so you don't trash them. It's pretty cool.
@bigospig
@bigospig 22 күн бұрын
Piston wrist pin clip was most likely not fully seated and caused the failure.
@vesandreev8500
@vesandreev8500 22 күн бұрын
Hey Joe, did you find one or two wrist pin clips? I saw just one in the crank case. Thank you.
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