3,000 Sq.Ft. Luxury Off-Grid Living | Using 207kWh of Battle Born Lithium & ~30kW of Solar

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3,000 Sq.Ft. Luxury Off-Grid Living | Using 207kWh of Battle Born Lithium & ~30kW of Solar

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4 ай бұрын

Nestled in the Sierra Nevada mountain range, the Lodge at Jackson Meadows sits over 18 miles from the nearest power line and is completely off the grid. Spread across four structures-the main house, yoga studio and guest house, garage, and well house-this property's power demands required a substantial off-grid energy solution to meet the owner’s expectations.
Installer Steven Lewis of Five Star Nomadic took the impressive project to Battle Born Batteries and defined a robust lithium power system that would ensure the Lodge at Jackson Meadows remains fully powered ... without question.
The property's off-grid power system includes a nearly 30kW solar array and 207kWh of Battle Born Lithium Batteries to power:
• Dual Electric-Propane Tankless Water Heaters
• (5) Zones of Electric Radiant Heated Flooring
• Master Suite’s Electric Steam Shower
• (2) Electric Dry Sauna Units
• Electric Jacuzzi
• 240-Volt Well Pump
• 240-Volt Pressure Assist Booster Pump
• (2) 30-Amp RV Hookups
• Fire Suppression System on Dedicated 240-Volt Well Pump
• Starlink & Ubiquiti Network for Full-Property Wi-Fi 6
• 4K Smart Security Cameras
• Wireless Building-to-Building Network Bridges
• Multiple Wi-Fi 6 Access Points
Check more of Five Star Nomadic's impressive lithium power system installs across the RV and off-grid communities at www.fivestarno...

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@boblatkey7160 10 күн бұрын

I specialized in high-end off grid power systems for over 25 years and you certainly have my compliments. Really nice job all the way around. I always love these big jobs.

@wjlambert 4 ай бұрын

I used to think that people were nutz to install 90kWh of batteries (like what Ecoflow Pro Ultra offers at it's max). But now that I have a n anemic 30kWh, and I regularly break 50kWh / day, it's just not enough. (I work in IT and have a server rack in my house, plus 2 EVs)

@USA-GreedyMenOfNoIntegrity 4 ай бұрын

47kWp 230kWh of LFP were finally enough for an all electric 3000 sqft. Just keep adding every year. 30% one time tax credit helps too.

@jaytate491 4 ай бұрын

@@USA-GreedyMenOfNoIntegrity You can only claim the 30% once per build. You cannot keep adding and keep claiming the tax credit. That's why I never added a battery to my 12 year old solar system.

@USA-GreedyMenOfNoIntegrity 4 ай бұрын

@@jaytate491 thank you. You are correct. So build as much as can afford the first and startup year.

@jodymooney255 4 ай бұрын

What a beautiful place!

@cleversolarpower 4 ай бұрын

Those seem good mounts. However, why go with 4 12V batteries in series when you can use a 48V server rack, then you wouldn't have to use balancers. I get that battleborn doesn't supply these, but the designer should know this though.

@SmallVansBigWorld 4 ай бұрын

Yea would of been probably half the price going with some good 48v server rack batteries.

@curiouspeople6441 4 ай бұрын

207 KWh battery 🔋 😮 , that is huge ! 🍀 lucky 😊

@ultrastoat3298 3 ай бұрын

I mean..... thats less than 1 Hummer EV

@jasonbroom7147 4 ай бұрын

You series-connected that many 12.8v batteries? I sure hope you have a massive battery equalizer solution to go along with that "interesting" design choice. The cost of those batteries, with no communications, is just nuts. I'll be surprised if my comment isn't deleted because this is unquestionably the least cost-effective solution for building a large-scale energy storage solution.

@vhornwright5085 4 ай бұрын

48v

@noturbizz1 4 ай бұрын

still? battleborn batteries are the most expensive lithium option in usa, litime are half price, same thing..

@anzzgar 3 ай бұрын

@@vhornwright5085 even worse, then you'll have no idea where your single battery voltage is in each 48V pack, thats hopefully not gonna lead to some overvoltages in the bank.

@CATA20034 3 ай бұрын

Yep, as an hardware engineer, this seems the worst way to go. Don't know why you did not consult with more providers. Best solution is to go with HV battery for this system scale, you will improve efficiency by 5-10% depending on load and can track each chell individually.

@leexgx 3 ай бұрын

Does seem to make more sense to have used a centralised high voltage box battery system (48v rack mount battery’s or stack type), I appreciate it’ll be easier to replace the individual batteries in this type of set up but if there is no active balancer that smart enough to make sure the 12v battery packs in balance it’s going to cause some problems later on and probably clostridium 50% more then 5 or 10kw rack battery’s Just looking for server rack 48v 200ah each one is around 5kwh for 2k each so only need 40 of them (if you used the larger 10kwh 400ah only need 20 are available but seem to cost more at 5-6k) or go lower with 2.4kwh 100ah for 1k each

@SmallVansBigWorld 4 ай бұрын

I really hope you didnt use 12v batteries in seires to make 48v. Considering all the 48v battery options out there. The high price of the gamecharger battery doesn't make sense.

@MrMtaylor7210 4 ай бұрын

What do you think the 48 batteries are made from, the chemistry sets the voltage all 48v batteries are just a bunch of smaller cells in series. Now the price for the batteries is a valid complain.

@toxin440 4 ай бұрын

they are paying $2500+ for these 12V solutions, $771 per kWh of storage, that's so hilariously bad. I have almost 30kWh of LG4's arriving next week and only paying $230isih per kWh of storage. So much waste in that system they designed from the copper wire to the space. I can see why the battery supplier was so happy in the video, he found someone dumb enough to buy a crap ton of their 12V product to build an inefficient system. Most important thing I got from this video is the company name/faces of people I'd never want to do business with or design any system my name is attached to.

@MrMtaylor7210 3 ай бұрын

@toxin440 Yeah the price for battle born never made sense to me

@upnorthandpersonal 3 ай бұрын

@@MrMtaylor7210 Cells yes, batteries no. That is, if you have a 48V battery made up out of 3.2V cells (LFP) you have one BMS monitoring all 16 cells and this can keep the cells balanced - the BMS has a global view of the pack. If you put 4 batteries of 12V (4 cells) in series,you have a BMS per battery (4 independent BMS). These don't know from one another what the state is and thus there is no global view: you can get an imbalance between the individual batteries. You'd need to add an additional monitor to make sure these all stay in balance.

@MrMtaylor7210 3 ай бұрын

@upnorthandpersonal I'm not sure about the battle born batteries I know a lot of the rack mount stuff has communication between the batteries to resolve that. At the end of the day, if I was building something out I would not use battleborn just due to the pricing.

@Electronzap 4 ай бұрын

Awesome project.

@gothicel 4 ай бұрын

Gorgeous place and amazing system.

@paulfarrell1976 4 ай бұрын

A lot of time and money went into this system. Kinda wish the electrical room had been painted, it would dress it up even more. What was the cost I wonder.

@user-dr2pg8fk2i 4 ай бұрын

What, you mean workmanship? Nah, that's over rated.

@CAMWaite1 4 ай бұрын

Thank you . This was very helpful to a vast amount of people all over the globe . Well done 👍

@Fester_ 4 ай бұрын

Groovy indeed - cheers. Nice workmanship.

@cameronfuture7467 4 ай бұрын

When your at this power level why would you not go for HV batteries (400/800vdc) and the appropriate HV 60-80kW off grid inverter? Your amps get way too high using 48vdc battries like in caravan/rv. At 400vdc for 60kW your only looking at 150amps and at 800vdc its only 75amps which is much better, safer, more efficient for this sort of power. 48vdc makes sense for running lights,fridges and a tv but no sense in these sorts of power usages cases.

@jonasgranlund4427 4 ай бұрын

This is an absolute beast of a system and Sol-Ark are really good inverters. but I agree, several of the big players have come out with HV inverters that handle 250-800VDC i.e Deye 29k-50k range. I have a feeling that in the next 5 years storage solutions will explode and more and more supplyers with go towards +300VDC Hybrid solutions.

@snake10566 4 ай бұрын

Missed opportunity to paint the walls before the equipment went in...

@Riverrain123 3 ай бұрын

so dope!

@cleanfutureio 2 ай бұрын

This is awesome!

@MattBuck777 2 ай бұрын

That’s rad af. Good for him .

@TRYtoHELPyou 4 ай бұрын

This is so cool. Interesting selection of equipment. Kept the diesel generator hidden? That or i just didnt catch any mention of a distillate oil backup..

@nickaudette3315 3 ай бұрын

Wow, if my math is close, 207kwh / 3.24kwh per battery = ~64 batteries. Each battery is $2,499 so that would be about $160,000 USD in just batteries alone. Holy crap.

@patrickcoyne1292 3 ай бұрын

sounds like money was spent that didn’t have to be….there are better choices that cost a lot less.

@MitchOfCanada 4 ай бұрын

Sad didn't do motorized parking to put panels vertical at night to keep snow off

@psmopar 4 ай бұрын

They are motorized.

@hermancm 3 ай бұрын

I thought they looked like they were.

@kevinmills5293 2 ай бұрын

With all that snow, I’d have thought bifacial panel would have been a good idea.

@bobsun2526 4 ай бұрын

I m courious how the low temperature influence to battery's performance in the Sierra Nevada

@battlebornbatteries 4 ай бұрын

Installed in a well-insulated room, these batteries maintain proper operating temperature year-round. Even when outdoor temperatures drop below 0°F, the room stays around 40°F, allowing the batteries to continue charging and discharging efficiently. Learn more here: battlebornbatteries.com/a-luxurious-modern-off-grid-home-powered-by-64-battle-born-lifepo4-batteries/

@USA-GreedyMenOfNoIntegrity 4 ай бұрын

3000sqft. 47kWp, 230kWh diy LFP.

@H2Dwoat 4 ай бұрын

Hi, how are the panels kept clear of snow? Is it an automated system or does some one have to clear them manually?

@FiveStarNomadic 4 ай бұрын

The panels have hydrophobic coating and no more than a few inches of snow ever stick before sliding. The panels are tilted at 46° all winter, so the biggest issue is clearing all the snow shedding. 12ft to the ground from the lower front edge gives plenty of space during single big storm events. The snow cat keeps the space clear whenever we start running out of room.

@H2Dwoat 4 ай бұрын

@@FiveStarNomadic hi, thank you for your response much appreciated. All you need now is a robo-snowplow to remove the snow beneath the panels 🤓.

@FiveStarNomadic 4 ай бұрын

@@H2Dwoatthat would be nice, we just have the typical snow cat for now!

@H2Dwoat 4 ай бұрын

@@FiveStarNomadic 👍

@Thomisshilbay 3 ай бұрын

Awesome

@NeverTakeNoShortcuts 3 ай бұрын

How deep snow can that tracked SUV handle?

@Diamond-zp5wp 4 ай бұрын

What about running water?

@SmallVansBigWorld 4 ай бұрын

Very huge system! I didnt know Battle born makes 48v batteries?

@zmt5578 4 ай бұрын

Battle Born only make 12V and some 24V batteries. When you connect 4x 12V batteries in series you get 48V, 2x 24V batteries in series = 48V.

@SmallVansBigWorld 4 ай бұрын

@@zmt5578 then you need a balancer to keep all the 12v balanced.

@r.b.l.5841 4 ай бұрын

They don't - this is the worst way to do the battery part of the system. They should remove all those 12v batteries and install 48v that will remain balanced with BMS control. Those 12v can become out of balance over time, could lead to fire.

@hermancm 3 ай бұрын

Wonder who the owner is and where he got the funds to do all of this?

@bennym1956 3 ай бұрын

Nice, not roughing it ! A $1,000,000 place.

@longgone2023 4 ай бұрын

And your alternative would be?

@denyssmolianytskyi8985 3 ай бұрын

Price for this project please!

@noturbizz1 4 ай бұрын

battleborn stock just went way up.

@user-sf9pq5ox7w 24 күн бұрын

Battle born Lithium? Nice marketing video.

@SolarTechFL 4 ай бұрын

Wire way would look soooo much better

@FiveStarNomadic 4 ай бұрын

We haven’t finished that whole cable management side of things yet. We ran out of time this season…same with the painting of the electrical room

@BritishAnts 4 ай бұрын

Trust fund or OF money? Millionaire can make anything happen, it’s saying our product is 1 percent only items!

@robdavy4468 4 ай бұрын

I'm pretty sure trust fund. Just from the vibes

@USA-GreedyMenOfNoIntegrity 4 ай бұрын

No, all it takes is controlling your spending, become debt free, no interest paid to the suits, drive and maintain older vehicles with liability until the wheels or gas tank fall off, do without dining out daily, do without the four family vacations annually, do without the 3000 sqft house, do without the luxury trucks or SUV, do without the overpriced ATV’s and DIY. That’s how the average wage earning American does it.

@FiveStarNomadic 4 ай бұрын

@@robdavy4468not a trust funded…owner built multiple brands in the food industry that got bought up by big brands…

@DanielDuffySan 4 ай бұрын

Not sure who the owner is but seems like an athlete (snowmobiler, snowboarder, etc) who had some money and turned this into a business. With a business loan, one can build something much bigger than you'd typically do for personal use alone. WIth a bit of seed money and an SBA loan, this project is within reach for anyone with the initiative to turn it into a business, as this guy did.

@noturbizz1 4 ай бұрын

@@USA-GreedyMenOfNoIntegrityKlaus Shwab; you will own nothing. And be happy. ha, iv got 2 solar panels.. works great!!

@dmir2 3 ай бұрын

What’s the point of running electric tankless hot water heaters off-grid? Granted, never run out of hot water. perhaps they are point of use.

@CryptoCrunchKorean 3 ай бұрын

why not just server rack battery ?

@kevinmills5293 2 ай бұрын

I think they chose well established companies that will still be around in the future.

@boblatkey7160 10 күн бұрын

That's not a very good choice for this type of application and capacity size.

@ultrastoat3298 3 ай бұрын

"Electric tankless water heaters" Thats the craziest thing I heard.

@boblatkey7160 10 күн бұрын

It's actually extremely smart when you have a system of this size.

@ultrastoat3298 10 күн бұрын

@@boblatkey7160 doesn’t make any sense. Electric tankless water heaters are the most inefficient way of making hot water.

@boblatkey7160 10 күн бұрын

@@ultrastoat3298 not when you have a surplus of electricity that's generated by solar and it is extremely expensive to transport propane in remote areas. But otherwise, yeah you are correct. They are becoming very popular as people get rid of their natural gas and move to all solar.

@acefire4050 4 ай бұрын

Four hundred and five watch solar panels cost three times more than five hundred and fifty watt Solar panels and that also goes by facial solar panels. 4 and 5 W soap panels.I want a few dollars.They cost more than all my solar panels together.And I got 5000 W of solar panels besides a point in 5 W solar panels and only bought 4 of those and they cost.An arm and a leg and yet they want your other arm to go with it.

@FiveStarNomadic 4 ай бұрын

I’d like you to maybe clean up the grammar and errors in your post because I’m not entirely sure what you are trying to say here… The other caveat you may not know of is that in this particular area, there is a list of 8 panels that all the AHJs (Authority Having Jurisdiction) will allow to be used based on snow loading and the panel I chose in the design is the number one on that list…there are no panels in the 550w range at all, because none of them can handle the immense snow loading.

@Gig0Surf 4 ай бұрын

@@FiveStarNomadic Are there no bifacial panels on the list? They seem like they would be beneficial, capturing light reflecting off the snow.

@boblatkey7160 10 күн бұрын

Nonsense

@rivaled 4 ай бұрын

For the cost of this you probably could have run power the 18 miles to the house .

@av1204 3 ай бұрын

and not replace it in 20 years

@stephenpedroff3803 2 ай бұрын

Even on the low end of the scale at $5 per linear foot to trench utilities, that's 95,040 feet (18 miles), or $475k, lol. Seems unlikely the entire system cost that much, but I can't find any cost reporting on this very cool off-grid compound.

@michaellewis4632 4 ай бұрын

A suburban on tracks that’s so stupid

@FiveStarNomadic 4 ай бұрын

Good luck getting to the property without it…it’s 9 miles to the nearest road that gets plowed during winter. Only track driven vehicles are allowed. Everyone who lives out there does this.

@SmallVansBigWorld 4 ай бұрын

You're just jealous!

@michaellewis4632 4 ай бұрын

@@SmallVansBigWorld no chains and a winch would do just fine

@FiveStarNomadic 4 ай бұрын

@@michaellewis4632you obviously don’t know where this property is and aren’t aware that any wheeled traffic is illegal during winter. Not only would we be pulling you out when you inevitably got stuck with your tires and chains, but the forest service would be there to hand you a ticket with a hefty fine and they might even impound your vehicle.

@michaellewis4632 4 ай бұрын

@@FiveStarNomadic okay buddy

@nongtumelo 4 ай бұрын

Damn this is a true gem!!😍

@Rangband1 4 ай бұрын

It’s an engineering disaster, terrible design using the wrong components when it came to the batteries and inverter.

@toxin440 4 ай бұрын

@@Rangband1 yup - when I saw their battery/solar room I cringed. The worst part at the end, the guy/company who built it said "this was built with pride", OOOOOF. Owner seems to not understand anything except how to ride a snowmobile, and the builder sounds like a borderline con artist with this design. Battleborn batteries made out like a bandit though, that's for sure.