3 Paddling Mistakes Surfers Make That I Hate...

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Жыл бұрын

Paddling a surfboard is something many surfers overlook, but it should be something we get right before moving on. Here are some of the more common paddling mistakes and how to fix them!
Brian James
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@BrianBigda Жыл бұрын

Started surfing 4 years ago but quickly determined paddling and being able to judge/time waves is absolutely foundational. Master that first and you can then catch a hell of a lot more waves to practice carving, cutbacks, walking, nose riding, headstands, and whatever else tickles your fancy .. don't master it and all that other stuff doesn't matter, because you'll spend more time wearing yourself out missing the waves you should be riding.

@LongboardSessions Жыл бұрын

Yes well said! Exactly what I was trying to get across

@kenoath5717 Жыл бұрын

Nailed it!

@haleytruslow7200 Жыл бұрын

I’ve been surfing for 7 years but these are great reminders. I am loving your channel

@LongboardSessions Жыл бұрын

Never hurts to hear the basics again. Glad you're enjoying the vids!

@richardbladehartstewart8675 26 күн бұрын

Brilliant. I really struggle with the paddle in softer waves in trying to get more increase in my wave count. 🤙

@LongboardSessions 22 күн бұрын

Thanks!! Hope this helps

@bbhyphen3056 Ай бұрын

This is so helpful dude! Thank you!

@LongboardSessions 22 күн бұрын

You got it!

@yyyooohhhooo Жыл бұрын

I am new to surfing. Man love your channel, great scene and great talk, looking forward to more practical info from you!

@LongboardSessions Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! Glad it's helping out!

@timothyom2008 Жыл бұрын

Well done amigo!!! Great points for everyone. Agree with the other comment about Rob Case. I’ve done both of his classes. He’s amazing.

@LongboardSessions Жыл бұрын

Awesome thanks! Yea i'll definitely have to check those out!

@chrro466 9 ай бұрын

Love your videos. Keep them coming. 🤙🏼🤙🏼from NZ

@LongboardSessions 9 ай бұрын

Awesome, will do!

@vilramos Жыл бұрын

Great video! I love the comedy with the falling off the longboard at the start. And great paddling tips! :)

@LongboardSessions Жыл бұрын

haha thanks! I fell 3 or 4 times and legitimately had bruises the next day lol

@newschool2 Жыл бұрын

Mate your channel is now officially epic. Good skills

@LongboardSessions Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much Andy!

@thiagoneves50 Жыл бұрын

Awesome video! And great editing btw

@LongboardSessions Жыл бұрын

Thanks Thiago!

@KooKaRoach727 6 ай бұрын

New longboarder here this was so helpful thank u so much

@LongboardSessions 6 ай бұрын

You got it!

@slang3164 Жыл бұрын

This is a good start. Rob Case of surfpaddling is the guru if you want to learn how to paddle efficiently and injury free IMO.

@LongboardSessions Жыл бұрын

Oh nice! Ill check him out

@caraault2892 Жыл бұрын

Nice video I hope your well , I counted soooooo many people up at the wave pool too far back on their boards when paddling out

@LongboardSessions Жыл бұрын

Yes! So common.

@billytuchscher Жыл бұрын

I often paddle up and ask if I can make a suggestion. ...it goes like this; "if you wanna catch a lot more waves, move up 1 inch on your board" that usually leads to a possitive conversation.

@crazyrevolution2 Жыл бұрын

Don’t forget the panic paddle when they start swinging both arms at the same time. Avoid dragging your hand for each stroke. Cup or keep your fingers together, your hands are ores. Drop your shoulders and keep your chest out when paddling to increase shoulder mobility and paddle power!!!

@LongboardSessions Жыл бұрын

Ah the panic paddle haha! We've all been guilty. Great tips!

@michaelburk9171 10 ай бұрын

I see see many novice surfers using the butterfly paddle. It just doesn't work as well as one hand at a time

@listrahtes 2 ай бұрын

Actually my surf coach told me to paddle with both arms for speed . I don't like it and reading that will now ignore this advice. My problem is my lower sternum burts a lot while paddling. Maybe I am not extended enough in my lower spine. It hurts so much I stopped surfing for now .

@billytuchscher Жыл бұрын

That was a long overdue video! Paddling is everything. New surfers do everything in reverse. -- Focus on the paddle! (And the spin around) that'll allow you to catch waves. Catching waves allows you to learn everything else! Good VIDEO!

@LongboardSessions Жыл бұрын

yes exactly! Yea i'll have to address the spin around in another video... that's huge as well

@billytuchscher Жыл бұрын

@@LongboardSessions ...so huge! People often ask me how I catch so many waves, And, while paddle technique and positioning are critical, "The Spin Around" has a multiplier effect on the other two. I would say by x2. These days every session I'm getting at least two 'no-paddle' takeoffs. The quick spin is what allows this.

@roscius6204 Жыл бұрын

Find a reference point, for me it's the top of the brand logo, on my 9'6" Fireball. Then it's a small variation depending on the water. slightly back for chop etc.. BTW I have what I call the 4/20 rule. If there's 4 people out there's 4 people getting waves. If there's 24 people out, there's 4 people getting waves. 🙂

@LongboardSessions Жыл бұрын

Yea logos make great reference points. You could also use stickers!

@propwash6880 11 ай бұрын

It's actually good to keep your chin down while paddling into a wave especially on a longboard. Arching back moves weight to back and can cause you to stall. Chin down creates drive and momentum especially right before pop up. Watch really good long boarders. A surf coach that happens to surf my break recommended this and I catch so many more waves now. I have 30+ years of surfing under my belt. Always learn something new.

@TromboneAl Жыл бұрын

Interesting: I've recently changed my paddling style to that recommended by Nick Carroll ("How to Paddle Stronger and Smarter"). He advocates not wasting energy arching your back and looking ahead. This indeed seems to use less energy, but I've started having neck pain. Your comment at 2:02 made me realize that having my head down may be the cause! Eureka. Thanks.

@LongboardSessions Жыл бұрын

Oh hopefully that's the problem! I can't see how arching your back is "wasting" energy. Paddling is easier and less stressful when you're back is arched. However, we are all built differently

@billytuchscher Жыл бұрын

...let me add, the arched back allows for weight adjustments when paddling through and into waves. This is the first time I've heard that the back arch wastes energy.

@samuelefabbro Жыл бұрын

Hey man. This series is so much inspiring. Would you mind sharing your gear? what camera? I know. it's depressing answering this. keep it going. I'd like to learn your style of storytelling and applying to other fields. Music or Parachute. Camera. please 🛒

@LongboardSessions Жыл бұрын

Awesome thanks so much! Sure.. i'm a gear nerd haha Vlog/ B-roll camera is a sony a6600 with a rode mic videomicro as the mic. Mainly use a sigma 16mm 1.4, but also have a garbage kit zoom lense. I also use the rode wireless go lapel occasionally. Drone is a mavic pro I believe.. whatever the one is that lets you shoot 4k at 60. As for story telling.. it's what I try and focus on the most. I try and use my favorite shows and documentaries as guidelines for story telling and shots.

@fsoileau Жыл бұрын

Lets me start out by saying that everything you say makes sense to me. But 40 to 60 waves in a session? I thought I was doing great a 10 to 20 was good even surfing for 50+ years. At 62 with paddle gloves, I can Kee paddle into a wave faster than most standups I can not reach those numbers. Most of the time I am happy with 2-3 good waves per session.

@LongboardSessions Жыл бұрын

Well, understand that I'm getting that many waves at a nearly empty beach break. Your situation might be different given you're in hawaii.

@fsoileau Жыл бұрын

@@LongboardSessions Very true, having to share waves does make a big difference. You are probably right I remember surfing Mexico in the 1970s with just friends and getting 2-3 sessions before collapsing at the campfire. Cherish your break it probably won't last forever. Which was why we would not tell anyone about our secret spot.

@LongboardSessions Жыл бұрын

@@fsoileau Well there are a few spots in jersey that do get crowded. BUT there are waves (when there is swell) every part of the whole coastline. So plenty for everyone

@scotts5916 Жыл бұрын

Hey just wondering if you can tell a huge difference between a 9’0” and something longer along a 9’6 or so? I’ve got a 9’0” and am working on noseriding and surf similar east coast waves to you( though warmer) down in Florida. A difference of 6 inches is huge on short board I normally ride but wondered how different it really is on a longboard. Videos are great and thanks again!!

@LongboardSessions Жыл бұрын

Thanks Scott! It's quite a big difference on a longboard as well. I went from a 9'2" to a 9'6" and it was shocking. The longer board held a bit better on the noserides, but the swing weight on the turn is a bit heavier. That 4 inch difference has made me have to lengthen each step so I actually get to the nose by my 4th step.. that wasn't a problem on my 9'2".

@roscius6204 Жыл бұрын

longer will be better in the 'same' board but rocker and rails play a big part. Longboards can be quite an investment,. So find shaper with a descent reputation and tell them(honestly) where your up to and what your trying to do. It will save money in the long run. And there's something special about the through line from shaper to surfer.

@trashstomper Жыл бұрын

..."Uh mom, it's that weird guy in the black suit laying on our lawn and videoing himself again".

@LongboardSessions Жыл бұрын

hahaha!

@barclaysauers255 Жыл бұрын

60 waves? Holy Mackerel Kingfish!

@LongboardSessions Жыл бұрын

haha! Combine the short rides in jersey with a longboard and you are a wave catching machine!

@crypttorque681 9 ай бұрын

Do you have to paddle harder on a longboard as opposed to a short?

@LongboardSessions 9 ай бұрын

Nah, you paddle hard on both hehe. You're able to get a much nicer glide on a longboard tho.. so essentially once it's moving along you can slow down your paddling and still maintain speed.

@hrburrell7587 Жыл бұрын

What are your thoughts on glide position in steeper waves... example, I surf a punchy beach break where the waves aren't necessarily big ( actually pretty small most days ) but they go from flat to a peak rather quickly and then break which doesnt give you a lot of time to get to your feet. Even an inch too far forward and you pearl. sometimes if the waves are steeper and faster I will slide back an Inch or so to compensate for the speed/ steepness of the wave and avoid stuffing the nose.... Ironically this seems to be more of a problem on smaller days as you have less distance between the nose of the board and the bottom of the wave. This may not be the best practice but seems to help ( sometimes ), but if there is a better ( proper) way I am definitely interested.

@LongboardSessions Жыл бұрын

I get exactly what your saying as we experience that quite a bit here in NJ. Sliding back can help, but you also might not catch the wave when you do that. Sometimes I'll be pretty far up to get paddling speed, than hop back a couple inches before the wave gets too steep. But here is the key for steep little waves: Angle your takeoff ALOT. Focus hard down the line and angle the board... You have much less chance of digging the nose when your board is angled. Hope this helps!

@LongboardSessions Жыл бұрын

Sorry for the late response by the way

@hrburrell7587 Жыл бұрын

@@LongboardSessions thanks brother, I will definitely work on angling my take offs 🤙

@hrburrell7587 Жыл бұрын

@@LongboardSessions no problem appreciate the reply.

@jackdoughty4238 Жыл бұрын

As always a good video. For us older surfers we need help developing those muscles, which help keep our posture on the board in that "banana shape". As you point out, that posture alone will not only help with paddling, but will help your overall vision of the forming wave, as well as positioning you in the sweet spot on your board to maintain proper trim. It is critical. If you try to use your back muscles only it is going to be difficult. You need to share the load along your spine and engage some additional muscles. This is especially helpful when you get tired. A lesson I learned yesterday while surfing. Anyway, I found this strength coach who gives an excellent example of how to share the load along your spine by pressing your belly button down into the board while pressing in on your knees. See attached for anyone interested: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fLSgoNtz2d3JiX0.html. As always a great video on your part and not to be overlooked.

@LongboardSessions Жыл бұрын

Thanks Jack! Yes well said. I imagine it's slightly more difficult if you're an older beginner surfer. You have to use muscles and put your body in positions that you havent done much of. If you surfed your whole life than I imagine you keep the paddling form and fitness into your old age. I could be wrong... but I'll see as I get older haha!

@jackdoughty4238 Жыл бұрын

Yep, I have seen some pretty old surfers in NZ with great form. Keep on surfing 😊.

@simonlebo Жыл бұрын

The paddling form is a conditioning issue not a technical one. The new surfer can t sustain arching so much all the time but will build it slowly as they surf more. You probably should have mentioned it. Nice series of vids though, I enjoy them!

@LongboardSessions Жыл бұрын

Thanks Simon! Well I think it's a bit of both, but also depends on how you're built. Arching your back comes simple to some people, yet others do have to condition as you said.

@billytuchscher Жыл бұрын

All of surfing takes conditioning. I have friends that surf casually, never more than an hour. They have a lot of fun and are worn out at the end of the hour. It's perfect for what they want from surfing. ... Me, well I'm a fanatic and surfed 9 hours (3 sessions) yesterday, because conditions were perfect. Conditioning is recommended for the serious surf athlete.

@noseridesnosedivessurfvlog8634 Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂 great intro

@LongboardSessions Жыл бұрын

haha thanks! 3 takes… and I was bruised by the end lol

@Mike-wc9lg Жыл бұрын

I knee paddle 99% of the time. Any pointers there, should the knees, or feet be together, apart, or does it even matter because they're not hanging off the board anyhow? Any idea how deep, or far should the arms pull through the water? Is there more or less power, or speed differences between knee, and prone paddling around, and most importantly catching waves?

@LongboardSessions Жыл бұрын

I think on a longboard, prone paddling is faster. Atleast thats the way it seems to me. I use knee paddling when I'm spent and want to work some different muscles to make my life easier. I think knees apart work great. Just gotta find that glide point which is weird when you're on your knees haha! Although i bet you're used to it since it seems you knee paddle most of the time

@billytuchscher Жыл бұрын

Depending on the board, I like to knee paddle intermittently throughout my sessions. I find that it allows certain muscles to rest and extends my overall stamina, resulting in longer sessions. I highly recommend this approach!. -- (But yeah, prone is more power and faster).

@kpj5 6 ай бұрын

What size is your board? I’m 5’8 n my board is 6’2

@LongboardSessions 5 ай бұрын

9'6". I'm 5'4" 135 lbs

@emisurfchannel2280 Жыл бұрын

what I do with my odysea 5.0 .. but if a longboard is already standing and I do the take off near the foam below .. who is right?

@kronk5265 Жыл бұрын

Depends on if you were waiting longer, or which section of the wave you were taking off at (peak, shoulder etc). Also, if that person just came back into the lineup from a ride, it should now be your turn. Unfortunately, etiquette isnʻt followed by everyone, and people become greedy when it comes to wave count.

@LongboardSessions Жыл бұрын

Yea thats a tough situation. What Kronk said is correct tho. At that point it's best to just decide who got the most recent ride and give the wave to the other surfer

@emisurfchannel2280 Жыл бұрын

@@LongboardSessions I say this because the last session in a point breack every wave was longboards. and I waited a bit further down with the 5.0, until I did take off inside the same.

@samsungphone8260 Жыл бұрын

Hard to catch a lot of waves now I have surfed all my life and believe me the crowd factor is of the planet you can spend a lot of money to travel and when you get to your destination it's more crowded than the location you left

@LongboardSessions Жыл бұрын

Crowds definitely play a factor! This is where a larger board comes in handy. With the right board and willingness to catch the smaller inside waves you can catch a ton in crowded locations. I did this when I surfed in santa cruz... caught as many waves as I would have here in the way less crowded NJ

@billytuchscher Жыл бұрын

I suggest, perfect your paddle and learn to catch nearly EVERY wave you paddle for. This lets the entire lineup know "you have that wave" even before you do. Psychologically surfers will back off knowing you own that wave. It's wierd. But itss real. I surf Malibu, Doheny and many other VERY crowded breaks. It works, and it's all from "the paddle!"

@dairyairman 8 ай бұрын

One mistake I've made, and still make sometimes, is giving up on paddling before I've really caught the wave. The wave passes under me and I think "why didn't I take just a couple more strokes?"

@LongboardSessions 8 ай бұрын

Common problem! It's a combination of not enough strokes vs possibly being too far back on the board. That's another common problem

@dairyairman 8 ай бұрын

@@LongboardSessions Yes! You do need to be pretty far forward. Another mistake I've made (and seen others make) is waiting too long to start paddling. The wave comes faster than you think, and once you decide to go for it, it takes some time to lay down on the board, start paddling, and accelerate it up to speed. I think this is especially true if you're on a longboard, like I have.