3 Speed Electric RC Car - Part 2/2

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JohnnyQ90

JohnnyQ90

3 жыл бұрын

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@johnnyq90
@johnnyq90 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Never managed to go more than 50-60% throttle.
@tanduay4206
@tanduay4206 3 жыл бұрын
Damn that thing must be powerful
@blackvvitcher
@blackvvitcher 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting!
@jiviteshpandab6194
@jiviteshpandab6194 3 жыл бұрын
So, which one is more powerful. The nitro version or the electric version and which one do u like @JohnnyQ90
@Matty.Hill_87
@Matty.Hill_87 3 жыл бұрын
Insert shocked pikachu face meme here 🤣🤣🤣
@jakeheddens8776
@jakeheddens8776 3 жыл бұрын
I have a question, why didn’t you use rubber tires instead?
@frederickwiesner1720
@frederickwiesner1720 3 жыл бұрын
Program your controls that the car has les steering angle in the higher speeds! That makes the controls a lot easier!
@trickyplayer8742
@trickyplayer8742 3 жыл бұрын
This don’t need programming this can be done on the remote so the servo didn’t use it full swing. But prob he don’t want to break speed records and use full swing on the servo
@RC-ty5ym
@RC-ty5ym 3 жыл бұрын
There is a easier way. He removed the 4wd and switched to rwd...
@wuddadid
@wuddadid 3 жыл бұрын
Here are a few suggestions on how you might improve traction: - Weight Transfer due to Acceleration: The weight of the vehicle shifts backwards as you accelerate so the combined weight of the battery and the motor will shift backward causing more traction on the rear wheels. From watching the video it seems that as you press down rapidly on the throttle and accelerate rapidly, the car starts to rotate to the left (11:22). I am assuming that the center of gravity of the car would be located more on the back right-hand side of the vehicle as that is where the battery and engine are roughly located. This uneven weight distribution, coupled with the fact that the weight shifts backwards as you accelerate, means that there will be a larger downward force on the rear right tire and hence more traction. This is also possibly the reason for the tire being ripped off as more of the force is exerted on that tire. - Lower the Tire Stiffness: You want a tire with high hysteresis (more deformable). Race cars have high hysteresis tires to increase friction and traction. Basically a softer tire. - Tire thread pattern: Add an asymmetrical pattern of circumferential (longitudinal) and lateral grooves to the tires to increase grip. [EDIT: As others have pointed out, whilst driving on dry and smooth road surfaces, treadless or slick tires will have more grip than treaded tires due to larger surface area of the tire (contact patch) being in contact with the road. That being said, the road being tested on was quite rough so a smoother road would also improve rubber contact.] - Lower steering ratio at high speeds: I saw it mentioned here already that you can program lower steering ratio at increased speeds. This should increase control. I also suggest this book (it's great): Vehicle Dynamics - Theory and Application by Reza N. Jazar Love the videos mate!
@ValentineC137
@ValentineC137 3 жыл бұрын
if grooves help with grip, then why do both drag cars and Formula 1 use slicks? :P
@mikeylama
@mikeylama 3 жыл бұрын
tire groove only helps if there is anything to channel out from the surface of the tire. The largest mechanical grip will always come from slick, patternless tires.
@wuddadid
@wuddadid 3 жыл бұрын
You're right. Threads are only needed to avoid hydroplaning on wet roads. Tire threads do infact reduce grip (when compared to slick tires) on dry smooth roads. That was an oversight on my part.
@itchyprince3793
@itchyprince3793 3 жыл бұрын
Or you can just buy rubber tires and wheels and skip all the complicated math and physics
@wuddadid
@wuddadid 3 жыл бұрын
@@itchyprince3793 sure you could. But I think if you're building rc cars from scratch, then you're probably going to want to understand how and why the car moves the way that it does. That way, you improve and optimize it. Which is what he asked for.
@aceallenk
@aceallenk 3 жыл бұрын
Sure I'm almost a senior, but watching these videos bring back the kid in all of us. And you do it with precision and style, not to mention a lot of knowledge comes to the table to. Always an A for effort..
@bryanthornburg8636
@bryanthornburg8636 3 жыл бұрын
I would suggest buying tires for it. I have a RC car I built that does the same with with any soft rubber tires due to the motor being too powerful, I’ve been told hard rubber ones provide a little less traction, but can easily handle up to 80mph.
@homegeographic5351
@homegeographic5351 3 жыл бұрын
yeah. buy rubber tires and if the rims are not good or bice enough, 3d print then based on the tires needs.
@kaiedick9550
@kaiedick9550 3 жыл бұрын
+1
@Rtechmobile
@Rtechmobile 3 жыл бұрын
Foam tires seem to work fine on 1/8 Gas cars and they would be as quick as his car.
@keksie_channel
@keksie_channel 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rtechmobile the torq difference is huge as electric it is from 0rpm while gas has need of a little rpm meaning tyre has "time" to adjust the inertia
@SRFirefox
@SRFirefox 3 жыл бұрын
Back when I worked in an RC shop, HPI sold belted rubber tires for just this kind of application. If you're in an experimenting mood, they have different foams for inside each type, but the standard ones should work fine for you. Ofna sells belted road tires too, but last I checked they were only for 1/8 scale buggy wheels.
@tiporari
@tiporari 3 жыл бұрын
Add a simple gyro on the steering axis to help with stability on launch and high speed tracking. Most high speed cars now have this. Cheap and easy. You can also play with exponential on the throttle to make it less aggressive.
3 жыл бұрын
both easy and viable fixes.
@PLAYERSLAYER_22
@PLAYERSLAYER_22 3 жыл бұрын
the gyro just sounds like cheating if you havent already tried to tune the car the way it is. only after everything is already as good as it can get in its configuration, then slap a gyro on it. but yeah throttle linearity tuning is a must for any syle of build.
@darrenminter4190
@darrenminter4190 3 жыл бұрын
A simple gyro from a helicopter linked to the steering servo and placed at the back of the car will enable she used to do one of two things keep the steering and check so it doesn’t wander out or do it the other way and turn into a drift car that’s really controllable lol at a fick of a switch , and u can buy different compounds rubber tires for track that have a temp Ratings and u can use a tire grip solution that you put on the tire that makes them tacky
@PLAYERSLAYER_22
@PLAYERSLAYER_22 3 жыл бұрын
darren minter everything you just brought up is what makes this go from an awesome engineering challenge to a cheap boring hack at achieving traction, ill straight up stop watching this series if it ever becomes something like that. we are not recreating and simulating characteristics of a vehicle, we are scaling one down while maintaining all the physics principals and strategy towards achieving traction employed by the real thing.
@MaNNeRz91
@MaNNeRz91 3 жыл бұрын
Solid rear axle and some better tyres and weight distribution 🙌 very thick oil in the front diff. Could lock the rear diff with bluetack or epoxy
@neoxela00
@neoxela00 3 жыл бұрын
1. Reduce your maximum steering angle as your speed increases, if you have a motor speed sensor, tie it in that way. 2. Change your tires to high speed rubber ones. 3. If you have travel left in your suspension, consider softening the rears to help it squat on launch, this will also help lighten the steering. 4. Set up your controller to ramp the throttle even if its just over 1/4 of a second or so, it will stop the 0rpm torque dump and the inability to take off. 5. Consider if you want the car to automatically countersteer via a gyro, it will help you keep it straight.
@PatrickAntonik
@PatrickAntonik 3 жыл бұрын
Front camber and toe in positive Rear no toe in, slight positive camber Soft, slightly treaded rubber tires with foam inlays Great work, an absolute pleasure to watch, thank you!
@douglasdarby8584
@douglasdarby8584 3 жыл бұрын
Could you fit 1/8th scale on road tires to it? Come in a variety of shores (firmness) and handle very high speeds. Also softer rear springs (and front) help some. Love the project. Thanks for sharing.
@bobasaursquared1633
@bobasaursquared1633 3 жыл бұрын
Angus Rae damn bro, wtf did he do?
@BFanist
@BFanist 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe a limited slip differential? The explosion looked like it was induced by extreme rotation speed of the wheel that had less grip. I might be wrong tho
@danielrouw2593
@danielrouw2593 3 жыл бұрын
If you go back to his previous video he installed differentials with tuneable slip. I think he would benefit more from a front rear torque split and different gearing. Those shifts are just too much. Even a flywheel would help with those massive jumps in torque.
@fabianrudzewski9027
@fabianrudzewski9027 3 жыл бұрын
The wheel exploded pretty sure because of the diff. More lock would have prevented that.
@danielrouw2593
@danielrouw2593 3 жыл бұрын
@@fabianrudzewski9027 in what way? Locked diffs put the entire force on whichever tire has the most resistance, in practice this increases the chances of breaking things. A limited slip equalizes torque, which has a limiting effect on the stress each tires recieves. Locked diffs also have much worse handling.
@DynoRC
@DynoRC 3 жыл бұрын
You are definitely right
@mickwald
@mickwald 3 жыл бұрын
@@danielrouw2593 Locked diffs don't let a slipping tire speed up compared to the gripping tire though, which would prevent the blow-out. Limited slip is usually the best of both worlds, but at high power scenarios, a locked diff might be the only way to prevent spinning.
@Nordmann61
@Nordmann61 3 жыл бұрын
To make it easier to drive in high speed, is it a way to make the steering "slower", so the input from the steering wheel do not result in a quick reaction from steering servo, then it wil be easier to control in higher speeds. Cheers.
@itchyprince3793
@itchyprince3793 3 жыл бұрын
Exponential right?
@user-qq2mo1ek2r
@user-qq2mo1ek2r 3 жыл бұрын
Love these builds, the trial and error, working things out, making new wheels etc. So so good
@nick-bh5qs
@nick-bh5qs 3 жыл бұрын
Do away with the foam tires, get some belted tires from an arrma (hoons), should be good for about 100mph, good traction too.
@racingrivals8934
@racingrivals8934 3 жыл бұрын
Dude its a 1/10 car the car just need a propper alignment
@fabianrudzewski9027
@fabianrudzewski9027 3 жыл бұрын
@@racingrivals8934 he's talking about the exploding tire. But it exploded due to him doing donuts at full throttle. In that case, the open diff spinns one wheel to double the normal topspeed. That way, you can kill almost any tire. Super thick diff oil would have saved the tire
@deathnightANIMATED
@deathnightANIMATED 3 жыл бұрын
Grp is pretty good and cheaper. Not sure if they do 1/10 as I run larger (infraction)
@nick-bh5qs
@nick-bh5qs 3 жыл бұрын
@@racingrivals8934 an alignment wouldn't be enough in itself, he has a few things to sort out. Tires Alignment Camber Dual rate adjustment to help with over correcting when steering. Tires are the biggest change to any rc, they can be a big upgrade in themselves (other than power upgrades). I had my rustler 2wd up to 140kph on jc concepts tires (non belted) before a tire blew.
@nick-bh5qs
@nick-bh5qs 3 жыл бұрын
@@deathnightANIMATED I'm sure with the 3d printer he can make 17mm hex for the car he has.
@adixx328
@adixx328 3 жыл бұрын
Hmm I might have some ideas... 1. Make a better tires or buy one (the softer the more traction, but faster tirewear) 2. Try to make a aerodynamic body 3. Try messing up with suspension (i think you should soften it) 4. Try moving some weight backwards to achieve 40/60 ratio 5. I think you should find a bigger road area to test it in a bigger speeds, it could behave very differently. 6. Maybe the engine is just to powerfull and you should ad either more weight or changinng the engine but before that do the thing here ^^^ I think thats all of my ideas.
@PLAYERSLAYER_22
@PLAYERSLAYER_22 3 жыл бұрын
I think the biggest traction benefit would come from the suspension, it seemed like it is just so lightweight that the dampening speed and springrate needs to be super soft in order to transfer more of the bumps into the suspension. when it slips into a higher gear with the throttle pinned, the excess energy should be stored in the rear suspension rather than the tire surface which is causing it to break loose. this will help prevent traction loss during launching and shifting under throttle, aero will not really effect launching but could help maintain traction at speed but should not be relied on. you dont really want to add weight or remove power, but shifting weight whenever possible is ideal for minor balance adjustments. and instead of changing engines, you just need to play with the throttle linearity as well as the torque rampup rate. once it gets dialed in, the steering linearity should be modified to reduce the twitchyness of direction change. one last thing, it might be a good idea to put a layer of material under the tire foam to prevent rim damage if the tire blows off again.
@itchyprince3793
@itchyprince3793 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely needs rubber tires. The foams are not the optimal option in this situation
@dynamodayak
@dynamodayak 3 жыл бұрын
To run straight: Toe adjustments, caster, suspension setup, chassis balance and running with the body on for aerodynamics and traction. Slow setting gel super glue for you to be able to glue the tires better and syringe type tips for you to reach the inside of the tires. Hope that helps.
@choke666
@choke666 3 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY 💯. Toe and camber
@dyeirk4281
@dyeirk4281 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, I’ve always loved your videos and your projects are truly fascinating. I wanted to give my input on how to improve your car that others may have not said; -Softer suspension. The bumps on the road are much bigger relative to the car. Also softer suspension allows for smoother application of power to the ground. But as with anything, just not too much. -Ground effects. I noticed your under tray is smooth but has a lot of potential to really suck the car down. The car has to be moving to benefit from this but it can really have an effect if done right. -Think about center of gravity. You can get a few kitchen scales and see what your weight distribution is and make sure it’s not to one side and, ideally, 40% front. Better tires and all that jazz the other people said but also look into tire softening compounds. The foam may be ok if you lightly spread something like acetone on them to really soften them up. Thank you for the many hours of entertainment you’ve brought us!
@leoplx3594
@leoplx3594 3 жыл бұрын
Arduino Traction Control and real tyres, nice job by the way
@alagnianos
@alagnianos 3 жыл бұрын
Would surely take this project to another level, but should swap the body for a truck to fit the arduino :)
@alagnianos
@alagnianos 3 жыл бұрын
@Arthur to fit it where exactly?
@itchyprince3793
@itchyprince3793 3 жыл бұрын
Uh yeah no more foams
@_BangDroid_
@_BangDroid_ 3 жыл бұрын
imu + tuned pid loops
@dylwolff
@dylwolff 3 жыл бұрын
Closed loop arduino? Might be a bit tough especially as different surfaces will require a different type of input.
@DigitalJedi
@DigitalJedi 3 жыл бұрын
I'd suggest finding some tires with tread as it'll help with the rough road surface. As others have mentioned, hard rubber can handle high speeds and softer springs may help.
@alphonsjose6812
@alphonsjose6812 3 жыл бұрын
But hard rubber results in losing traction,right?
@DigitalJedi
@DigitalJedi 3 жыл бұрын
@@alphonsjose6812 It does, but having tread rather than being proper slicks should minimise the issue on non-smooth surfaces.
@RockandRollRC
@RockandRollRC 2 жыл бұрын
Front toe out, and a steering gyro. Nice work.
@jaredgann7206
@jaredgann7206 3 жыл бұрын
Video title should be "Worlds First 150 Pound 1/10 Scale R/C!"
@vastak8853
@vastak8853 3 жыл бұрын
Johnny with this rc beast: :)) Kev with his 200 mph rc car: :)
@PPYTAO
@PPYTAO 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, I need one 😱 there should be an FPV racing league for these.
@TheRoulette77
@TheRoulette77 3 жыл бұрын
love your videos i used to race back in the 80s- 90s when we had lots of tracks here in california , we used Bolink racing tires , the foam compound was very soft and very light weight material, also you need to fully glue them to the rim , as they tend to expand away from the rim , this misshapes the tire and brakes your contact patch with the road. also being light weight material helps as centrifugal force is less on the tire material. once that is fixed the body adds considerable down force , we would never run high speeds without it as it would stick the car to the ground and aerodynamics were a big part of traction. good luck
@FredrikElgstrand
@FredrikElgstrand 3 жыл бұрын
My suggestion is to free up your a-arms so the suspension works as intended. It might not be a bad idea to have it a little bit softer and more ground clerance. Tires, not foam and if you can find a road that is somewhat dust free. Very nice project, nice to watch. Good luck!
@joachimschnoor2849
@joachimschnoor2849 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, If you have a differential gear between the front and rear axles, then change the ratio so that the front is about 2 to 5% more speed than the rear. With that he might drive better straight ahead and does not break out so quickly in curves. The car stays on track better. Thank you for your many great videos. Warm greetings from Germany Joachim
@Jimi8512
@Jimi8512 3 жыл бұрын
Please make mini 3 piece split wheels in billet aluminium!
@Bakamoichigei
@Bakamoichigei 3 жыл бұрын
Nice work with the combined additive/subtractive manufacturing process on the rims, it definitely yielded good results. 👍
@lilhotdog7011
@lilhotdog7011 3 жыл бұрын
Always a good day when Jonathan uploads!
@macedindu829
@macedindu829 3 жыл бұрын
Back in the day when I did slot cars, we ran them on foam tires with a glue substance for traction. Maybe find some of that glue?
@ailestriker9888
@ailestriker9888 3 жыл бұрын
I thought this too but the dowside might be that it's going to pick up stones and ruin the tires
@astro-jj5tm
@astro-jj5tm 3 жыл бұрын
on clean roadways it could work, but anywhere else they would get real dirty real fast
@itchyprince3793
@itchyprince3793 3 жыл бұрын
Or just give up with foams and use rubber tires
@AUGRaijin
@AUGRaijin 3 жыл бұрын
@@itchyprince3793 there is nothing wrong with foam tires, its the application of the cyanocryciliates used to hold them onto the rims, CA glues are great for ribbed tires or tires with minimal bonding or grooved surfaces, your dealing with a tire now that needs complete surface to surface bonding instead use this list of items needed: rubber cement, mineral spirits, gloves, bowl nose plug lol optional items : mountain bike inner tube and scissors make sure the tire is not bored to the diameter of the rim but leave it as is, make the rim about 10mm larger than the center of the tire, then use contact rubber cement, coat the rim and the inner surface of the tire, let it dry thoroughly do all 4 tires and rims at the same time, this gets a bit messy, when dry take mineral spirits and dunk the tire into it and quickly stretch the tire over the rim, the mineral spirits will soften the contact rubber cement only for a few seconds so be quick about it, once the tire is on the rim let it sit overnight true the tires on the rims once trued you will be good to go, if you want to increase the traction on dusty hard packed surfaces or concrete, then take the inner tube and cut a piece that measures just about 3mm shy of the overall contact surface of your trued foam tires, again repeat the mounting of the above specifications on this time , you will need to fabricate a half cone basically the diameter of the tires after truing, and then coat the contact surface with rubber cement and the inner side of the inner tube, let dry completely, then dunk the inner tube in mineral spirits and use the tire horn to pull tube over the tire making rubber capped tires, I used to race 8th scale BMT's and later on Serpents and this was a standard in onroad high speed racing and helped immensely with traction, the benefit of rubber capping is you can use tire grip additives, the downside you cant true them save that of side wall truing,
@itchyprince3793
@itchyprince3793 3 жыл бұрын
@@AUGRaijin wow that is a lot of info
@DanielRodriguez-jw2fx
@DanielRodriguez-jw2fx 3 жыл бұрын
Yo that RC car is dope💯
@dt-tv4fs
@dt-tv4fs 3 жыл бұрын
commercials in the 1960's touted the value of "oval" tires as they had better grip on the road in rain and ice. thanks again for another treat video.
@Stoned_Penguin
@Stoned_Penguin 3 жыл бұрын
Just glad to motivate you, always looking forward to the next video.
@joshuas.carsntanks
@joshuas.carsntanks 3 жыл бұрын
Perhaps add more weight to help with the traction problem? Love how it turned out 👌
@jasonnoble1435
@jasonnoble1435 3 жыл бұрын
I also suggest adding some weight to it, I know this seems a little counter intuitive as light means fast but too light and you lose control, balance the power to the weight so it stills goes fast and stays on the ground.
@itchyprince3793
@itchyprince3793 3 жыл бұрын
He needs to do some more suspension tuning to keep all 4 tires planted
@bull5hits
@bull5hits 3 жыл бұрын
Plenty of suggestions for this build already... so may I be so bold as to ask you to do a rock crawler or similar in the near future... 😃
@SamieMan1
@SamieMan1 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome build like always Johnny Q90!! Love the body shell, reminds me of a nsx we did here in Miami, it wasn't wide body like that though, we painted it the new nsx blue, which looks very similar to yours! Keep up the amazing work! Love seeing your battles between builds! You just never quit!
@TheDejakal
@TheDejakal 3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see this on a track with some softer tires. One thing we used to do in racing, was to belt our own soft compounded tires. It prevented ballooning and catastrophic failures like yours, but it makes balancing the tires harder.
@cuileanboulland2571
@cuileanboulland2571 3 жыл бұрын
first time tuning into the chanel i was so plesed when you put the nsx body on great choice ten stars
@graphixkillzzz
@graphixkillzzz 3 жыл бұрын
JohnnyQ90: traction is a problem 🤔 me, after watching a drift event: I see no problem 😐👍
@RC-ty5ym
@RC-ty5ym 3 жыл бұрын
While drifting, you still have a lot of traction..
@ryanwalton986
@ryanwalton986 3 жыл бұрын
@@RC-ty5ym Most drift cars don't have the insane torque to weight ratio as this car.
@RC-ty5ym
@RC-ty5ym 3 жыл бұрын
@@ryanwalton986 That might be true, but it's completely senseless to drive the Schumacher touring car out of the video with 2wd...
@zloinaopako
@zloinaopako 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing craftsmanship. I admire your patience and perseverance. You do like your camouflage shirts, don’t you? That nature resembles the type of scenery you can find in Greece 🇬🇷, Israel 🇮🇱, Cyprus 🇨🇾 or anywhere in the Mediterranean for that matter.
@dazkillinger1397
@dazkillinger1397 2 жыл бұрын
Man I wish I was even a quarter as talented as this guy is.
@blackvvitcher
@blackvvitcher 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine makin a 6 speed 4x4 with traction control.
3 жыл бұрын
pointless. it's brushless. learn about how brushless motors make gears obsolete.
@blackvvitcher
@blackvvitcher 3 жыл бұрын
@ do you mean gearboxes or gears in general?
@LILMADERR23
@LILMADERR23 3 жыл бұрын
NSX! Such a good choice. Loving this car, the more and more i see it!
@AcousticNRG
@AcousticNRG 3 жыл бұрын
jonny these videos are beyond satisfying to watch 10/10
@hipo4eyes1
@hipo4eyes1 Жыл бұрын
As an owner of a nitro Schumacher fusion I was so impressed!! Makes me wish they sold these so I could get one! SUBSCRIBED..
@Sven_Hein
@Sven_Hein 3 жыл бұрын
What lathe are you using? I'm thinking of buying one myself but haven't found the right one yet.
@butwait
@butwait 3 жыл бұрын
Brandless Chinese mini lathe from the looks of it. Likely modified to run within proper spec.
@myworkshop2
@myworkshop2 3 жыл бұрын
Its an Optimum, I have the same one, with some modifications they are great bench top lathes.
@Pithead
@Pithead 3 жыл бұрын
Check out 'This Old Tony' (channel) for his vids on a mini lathe.
@wumbogt3310
@wumbogt3310 3 жыл бұрын
damn,I want to buy a RC car now
@IllusiveChristie
@IllusiveChristie 3 жыл бұрын
Go make one😉
@nfsfanAndrew
@nfsfanAndrew 3 жыл бұрын
Plenty of kits. You can get rollers you can build up yourself or RTR (ready to runs)
@IllusiveChristie
@IllusiveChristie 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry. But you don't need 1000s in machinist tools to do this. You would be surprised what you can do with basic tools a grinder and a soldering iron. That's where I started.. working up to buying a lathe soon . Please don't knock down anyone's ideas ,passion, or dreams. He might even work at a shop where he might be able to borrow time on equipment.
@nfsfanAndrew
@nfsfanAndrew 3 жыл бұрын
@@marcialdospuforini1197 why so hostile? Saying to go make one doesn't necessarily mean go machine one from scratch. There's plenty of parts kits to build up your own RC exactly how you like. Ease up buddy.
@MiGujack3
@MiGujack3 3 жыл бұрын
@@marcialdospuforini1197 Not at all, 3D printing and glue go a really long way. If you need parts that require a lathe just go to machine shop and order the parts, no need to own the machine yourself.
@guerrillaradio9953
@guerrillaradio9953 3 жыл бұрын
I have the exact same radio. It has a gyro feature built into the receiver. It really helps keep the car straight with crazy power, plus you already have it, so no extra expense. Also use Shoe Goo thinned with solvent on foam tires. Increases grip AND life. I suggest using 1/8 onroad tires, as they are designed for the speeds you're going to reach, as well as being more durable than those, and being much easier to replace. I'm experimenting with an old set of 1/8 onroad wheels, onto which I'm going to cast solid urethane rubber. Probably heavy, but it's got to be better for speed runs. I wish you could still buy capped foams, but the thinned Shoe Goo soaks into the foam, increasing its strength and durability.
@terryclifton3939
@terryclifton3939 3 жыл бұрын
love watching ur video's, theyre so calming,, as for the tyres they seem more suited for drift cars
@IrishSkruffles
@IrishSkruffles 3 жыл бұрын
From the aftermath of the shredded wheel, you can see that it ripped the foam only where it was glued around the edge of the wheel. If you glue the entire surface somehow that won't be an issue anymore. As for not having traction, you could either try different tyres or make the car heavier
@ningen1980
@ningen1980 3 жыл бұрын
Hair ties for battery hold downs. Never would've imagined that one. As far as traction: Seems like the tire material is too hard/brittle. Like taking a shopping cart over gravel. VERY rough. Perhaps a pneumatic type of tire would be better?
@CraigTaylor
@CraigTaylor 3 жыл бұрын
A few issues: - Foam tyres are never good on rough surfaces (they just tear up, as you found), maybe get some rubber tyres with modest tread for on that road. Foam is good for painted asphalt and carpet. - Steering angle is too aggressive for the higher speeds, I found when I put a 2-speed in my nitro RC that the higher speeds required me to reduce the throw on the steering servo. Modern radios can do this electronically. - Put the body on the car, you will find less yaw sensitivity with the body fitted. - Loosen up the rear diff, tighten the front. That way front will stay square on takeoff, reduces torque steer on turning too
@praneeth6005
@praneeth6005 3 жыл бұрын
Now we want a race between Electric RC and gasoline RC
@Skitzotech
@Skitzotech 3 жыл бұрын
Tip on how to get better traction: Use your finger and not your toe to control the throttle trigger. kek XD
@DomanStuff2022
@DomanStuff2022 3 жыл бұрын
Well, with brushless you don't need a gearing... it's the weakest point and it's not doing anything (with brushless available today - they have a lot of power starting from 0, and they can spin like crazy). Maybe on some brushed vintage car? How to upgrade this one? Put on body to get some downforce, get rubber wide tiers/wheels and get a gyro/acc for steering. Then maybe you'll get, to maybe like 75% throttle? :-)
@ajgonzalez5109
@ajgonzalez5109 3 жыл бұрын
That NSX body put a smile on my face :)
@adammorris3082
@adammorris3082 3 жыл бұрын
That's a really nice build, You make me wish I had the equipment to bring my ideas to life- good work. I noticed the tyre gave in where it wasn't glued and so think that just gluing the whole inner tyre surfaces to the wheels might stop the tyres exploding- as for traction look at different shore ratings and if your planning on going 130mph+ stick to foams is the advice I got from another you tube speed runner. All the best.
@user-or9ey2ld6s
@user-or9ey2ld6s 3 жыл бұрын
Use rubber tires, add weight to the car. Improve gearing --> Longer gears.
@tiernanmcgonigle3397
@tiernanmcgonigle3397 3 жыл бұрын
3 views 61 likes yeah good job KZfaq
@kavanlad5532
@kavanlad5532 3 жыл бұрын
Some suggestion: You can decrease the gear ratio in the transmission. If you see, the jump from 1st gear to 2nd gear is quite extensive meaning that when the car changes from 1st to 2nd gear along with a high torque motor, the wheel will slip a little and hence decrease the traction. You can decrease the width of the front wheel so that the efficiency while turning is high. If you see , it is easier to turn a smaller width wheel than a bigger width wheel because of it’s low surface area contact. Secondly, more is the area, less is the pressure of a medium. You can even add counterweights at the front of the car but not a lot as while braking the centre of gravity will shift to front end. This counterweight will counter the opposing acceleration force that tends to make the car’s centre of gravity at the back end. Again, fantastic job to create a automatic transmission car. Commendable job .
@AlexWhite134
@AlexWhite134 3 жыл бұрын
At this rate the day is not far off when the Assembly of a full size electric car from scrap metal will begin on this channel
@AcydDrop
@AcydDrop 3 жыл бұрын
Suggestions: Improve camber angle (front and rear) - consider tyre based on surface - consider perhaps adding a spoiler to increase down force (not sure of the effectiveness of a splitter or spoiler at this size) - perhaps consider loading on the tires (again at this scale not sure). Best and only suggestions I have.
@webslinger67
@webslinger67 3 жыл бұрын
Been racing rc cars some years ago... There are rubber capped foam tires that can help. Back out the slipper clutch some (if you even have one.. if you don't, you need one) Plus I seen that the tire exploded in the center and not around the edges. You need to coat both the rim completely AND the inside of the tire liberally with tire glue, not just the edges. It makes a bit of a mess after pushing the tire on but you can clean that up with acetone. And keep in mind the surface you are running on is dusty and gravely... Try a new parking lot or even your nearest race track might have a carting track they will let you run on. Nice build for sure.. and good luck 👍👍👍
@ksan351
@ksan351 3 жыл бұрын
Suggestions for improved traction. Start with tightening the front diff to where if you hold both outdrives you can just turn it by hand, loosen the rear diff to the point it is almost free. This should stop the car wanting to spin out so easily. Other things that may help try adding some exponential to your throttle and steering to make them a little softer and less aggressive, possibly adding a gyro or AVC system to help with traction control and stability issues. Also some good belted rubber tires with closed cell foam inserts and a bit of wheel balancing will help tremendously, having done it during my years racing 1/10 offroad it is worth it especially at the kinds of wheel speeds you will get out of the 3 speed transmission.
@stevemclaughlin2393
@stevemclaughlin2393 3 жыл бұрын
My guess would be to go with rubber (preferably belted) instead of foam as others have suggested. And the least porous and cleanest road/surface you can find. Great stuff!!!
@dontleaveunattended1201
@dontleaveunattended1201 3 жыл бұрын
The body provides downforce/ traction. Love your videos.
@burningdieselproduction5498
@burningdieselproduction5498 3 жыл бұрын
Nice project! Buddy now you need Spektrum AVC radio and receiver. you can adjust tour throttle exponential curve and adjust the stability system to make your car somewhat controllable.
@mortenalbertsen7443
@mortenalbertsen7443 3 жыл бұрын
3d Printing parts for an RC car is awesome. Managed to wreck a part on my Tamiya car. i could have bought the sprue with the part on it for around 14 € i think. Instead, i modelled the part in CAD and printed it. Not sure if that was the quickest solution, but sure the most fun solution.
@shazils832
@shazils832 3 жыл бұрын
Love the NSX shell. Love your work keep it up and thank you for sharing videos.
@a.g7445
@a.g7445 3 жыл бұрын
I forget... great work dude, for this and all the previous project
@arthurgoetzke-coburn8930
@arthurgoetzke-coburn8930 3 жыл бұрын
Another useful thing to do, is to have wider rear tires than front tires. This inherently gives more understeer to the car, which helps when the rear is this lively. A lot of 1/8 RWD buggies do that, and those handle extremely well (although a bit understeery sometimes at high speeds).
@S1LV3RBACK1
@S1LV3RBACK1 3 жыл бұрын
Dude! That car is the perfect candidate for an EDF! Right on the top dead center. You've got some surplus power so use it to induce some down force. There's a 70mm fan that has 1.8kg of thrust. I half ass tried it on my short course truck and I could almost drive on a wall. It was so quick that you could hardly track it with your eyes. But before I went all the way with that build, I got into quad rotors and haven't looked back. Ya, like another dude said, get some proper belted tires and glue the crap out of them. Nice car! Cheers!
@kunalcharan8896
@kunalcharan8896 3 жыл бұрын
That NSX 🔥
@DeckerMTB
@DeckerMTB 3 жыл бұрын
Running with the bodyshell on the chassis will help tremendously with the traction and how the car handles.
@aleksanderlikar5375
@aleksanderlikar5375 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video and a beautiful Honda body. Gyro helps a lot. I recently bought, a Dumbo from BG and a Turnigy GT5 from HK, both 6CH and cheap.
@chrisvinicombe9947
@chrisvinicombe9947 3 жыл бұрын
Approval for the nsx shell 😍. You're gonna need some beadlock wheels and real tyres for that possibly ones that hold air pressure.
@tunespt
@tunespt 3 жыл бұрын
adjust throttle curve, heated rubber tires (as the ones we useon 1/4 scale, but probably too big), fix the wheels alignment, front toe out, rear toe in, and go from there. As usual, nice content, as I'm also an rc lover.
@ALTruckerDad
@ALTruckerDad 3 жыл бұрын
Rubber slicks treated with "Stickykicks" compound. My cousins used that stuff on their racers when they ran them on hard track. They used knobbys on dirt. They also tightened the suspension when on hard track. And it seemed to help.
@xorxand1001
@xorxand1001 3 жыл бұрын
A few things to consider. Tractor pulling and drag racing. Tractor pulling has the opposite effect, you dont have enough weight:power low end. Drag racing has under inflated tyres, hard to do with solid rubber. Also consider some form of gear limiting based on traction loss?? Its almost like you need to rethink the gear ratios. It could do with less aggression in first gear but its a very hard task to get that perfect balance without a bucket load of R&D.
@NathanStorer-RC
@NathanStorer-RC 3 жыл бұрын
This car is incredible! Not sure about sure compounds, but maybe some sort of stability management would help overall? When you have that much power to tame, sometimes one needs a little bit of help ;)
@skyrocket586
@skyrocket586 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome stuff! Looks like the motors are plenty powerful so if I were giving it a go I would try add weight and balance the car out to ensure better stability. Power to weight ratio is probably through the roof compared to a normal vehicle
@joshua7586
@joshua7586 3 жыл бұрын
Big wing and canards! Probably wouldn't actually do much but it would look cool
@revus5078
@revus5078 3 жыл бұрын
I love the NSX body it looks great
@randyrawdingii5135
@randyrawdingii5135 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos bro. Now that's driving the wheels right off her!
@nike12000haha
@nike12000haha 3 жыл бұрын
That thing looks epic great body choice! Gonna have to make it Awd to try and control the traction
@snowcoalRC
@snowcoalRC 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who is into RC cars and has a few of them you should definitely just buy the tires at least. The wheels you could probably make yourself (the ones you had seemed to do fine), but having good road tires will completely change how it handles.
@cda32
@cda32 3 жыл бұрын
When I raced 1/10 pan cars we would cut grooves into the rubber, and turn it down really thin to reduce the rotational mass of the wheel. For some surfaces (not recommended on tarmac because of dirt) we would also use a glue like substance on the tires to improve traction. Also downforce, put the body on and give it a nice long rear wing. Too much angle of attack on the wing creates drag but making the wing wider increases downforce, same on the front. Also using a slip differential helps handling off the line.
@jasonduey5678
@jasonduey5678 3 жыл бұрын
And you are my motivation!! Thank you!
@21111009198573
@21111009198573 3 жыл бұрын
This man was whipping it
@twright44
@twright44 3 жыл бұрын
Lots of great suggestions already. Been a long time (90's) since I did foam tires but I used to spray them with wd-40 to get extra traction. Seems counter-intuitive, but it made them extra tacky. 🤷🏻‍♂️ That beast is looking awesome though 👍
@ryanmalin
@ryanmalin 3 жыл бұрын
you are amazing dude! Your fabrication skills are world class.
@mboyd6
@mboyd6 3 жыл бұрын
DO NOT use a gyro because as soon as the car darts off in one direction, it will try and counter steer itself repeatably until it spins out and that can be disastrous at high speeds. Also, steer clear from using rubber tyres as they expand and eventually - if not instantly - break especially with the power and drivetrain you are using. I found that adjusting your dual rate (steering input) on the control makes it alot easier to handle in a straight line. Lastly, find a clear stretch of road without debris, potholes, cats eyes etc. Love your videos, I have been watching them since the micro supercharger. Keep it up!
@wendtb
@wendtb 3 жыл бұрын
Worth buying a set of racing rubber tyres and rims, gluing and balancing. Racing tyres have a decent compound for optimum grip at specified temperatures and they have a fibre belt in them and special foam inserts to ensure even contact patches. The RC club I know makes you glue the tyres on site to make sure you are not using any different inner foam also for competitive gain.
@chefbgordon8892
@chefbgordon8892 3 жыл бұрын
That was a nice Honda Supra body shell lmao
@louismorgan2679
@louismorgan2679 3 жыл бұрын
Abs on an RC car would be awesome!
@crmercer6407
@crmercer6407 3 жыл бұрын
Great to see more brushless converted menaces. Mine goes really well :-)
@theders311
@theders311 3 жыл бұрын
good stuff my guy. Keep making these videos!
@omararreola2800
@omararreola2800 3 жыл бұрын
awesome electric three speed setup
@oldshovelhead
@oldshovelhead 3 жыл бұрын
Great build first off and love your channel and all the builds you post. I scratch built rc crawlers so speed wasn't an issue but as you know you have to fit the tire for the terrain. I would suggest looking into what the rc drag cars are using. There are a lot of 4wd vehicles in that part of the hobby and maybe you could pick up some tips from what they use.
@midgoog2
@midgoog2 3 жыл бұрын
It looked like the tyre that parted company had spun on the plastic rim and welded to the rim in a couple of places which would allow for uncontrolled distortion "bubbles" to form which resulted in the tyre tearing itself apart. The first thing I would try would be applying a thin coat of urethane glue to a new tyre before fitting to the rim before exploring more expensive options. Cheers Eric
@connornorlin9388
@connornorlin9388 3 жыл бұрын
Dude crazy watching you grow from 10k to over a million
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