1 ton ? you mean 3 tons right?

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@@devincrenshaw3802 yeah well start from 2.5

2 ton trucks getting there in 5.5 🤯😲

..and get decent milage..lol

EPA can go violate themselves. They don't rate the trucks but they regulate the ever loving shit out of them. Without them these trucks would be pulling more and doing it at 15 MPG (edit: and more reliably).

@@SergePupko they'd also have more power, which would make them more efficient, which would emit less emissions.

Kyle Kenan especially with a proper tune!

@@kylekenan2321 I don't think thats right, if it makes more power, it emits more emissions.

@@kappajohns5416 not necessarily. If it already has extra power, it won't work the engine as hard and consume as much fuel as it would if it was smaller and running harder.

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Everyone has to go to home depot once a year...

What's sad is alot of people here in my city dont even have hitches on their truck of course no tool box and you'll see these nancy boys wearing a suit driving it.... it's pretty sad who the majority of new truck owners are, that's also why they started putting speakers in a bed and a sun roof on a truck, so many useless things that Jack the price up. They haven't made a normal truck since 2010. And also they started manufacturing 4ft beds more than they used too for that reason, hardly anyone getting a truck now actually uses it for work, the next 1 I have to buy I cant even get a manual and I'm paying for a bunch of wuss features a truck should never have. Thanks to all you sissies that think they're cool cause they drive a truck.

@kyle groth well dang ol yeehaw derrrr takin errrrr jobs

@@Ozziepapi ok

its spelled 'Merica

Because its America we drag race everything. 🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸

@@Olds_Pwr the United States didnt become the superpower it is today from laziness.

@Mike Sienicki Boomers, the spoiled generation following WWII, paved the way to our nation becoming lazier and fixated on money and entertainment. That generation started a trend of entitlement that has followed each subsequent generation. It's not entirely their fault, their parents didnt want them to endure hardships like the Great Depression and WWII, so they didn't experience the hardships that make people strong. But to simply call millennials lazy and blame them for everything is foolish. Sure, some are mush brained meatbags, but that's a minority of the generation. The Boomers were called that by their parents and grandparents, as men grew their hair to long lengths, women dressed started to dress how they wanted and express sexuality, kids were experimenting with all sorts of drugs, and were starting to discount the idea of God. It's just blatantly ignorant to blame the downfall of America on a single generation when older generations still typically hold the power and wealth, that historically, every generation has had its problems, but the notions of hard work have been passed down through many families. Youre projecting blame onto groups of people that are only part of the problem. You yourself are mush brained if you truly believe that immigrants (I have several immigrant friends and they work harder and are more honest than most of my American ones) and millennials have ruined this country. Foolish

Check out Cleetus McFarland's "Freedom Factory".

at that weight, it's pull the trailer apart. to much power 😁

Well, considering the cubic inch difference in the X15 15 L vs. a 6.7 L, your X15 gets better mileage per liter of displacement in a big way. They are putting those Cummins 6.7 in motor homes these days, I wonder how they are doing on grades, going up and going down.

So why this obsession with mega pickups? Frustrated boys, wishing they were big truck drivers?

@Nigel Braithwaite and the worst part is when you lift a diesel truck you reduce your tow rating. You rely on a drop hitch. Might as well drive a car then

My Cummins 600hp Kenworth almost gets that if I drive it!!

​@@Predator27007 lol as someone who's younger brother and dad drive semis, I don't need to have an obsession with trucks , but I do need to haul/tow the absurd amount of tools I use to work on said diesels. I'm assuming you were talking about short bed, lifted trucks with coaling tunes.

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@@JUAN75001 i have been in counselling for A NUMBERS OF YEARS NOW FROM TFL ADDDICTON

Funny! Thank you for watching!

@@TFLtruck TFL should get an award form the Colorado tourism board. The amount of foreigners who have come to Colorado just to drive the infamous Ike gauntlet is staggering. It's on my todo list for my next visit stateside.

If i was in the market for a new heavy duty truck no doubt ill buy a Ford

GM builds their own engines also, their partnership with Isuzu ended a while back. They did own Allison back in the day, idk if they still do though.

@@BlackHawkBallistic The Duramax is an Isuzu engine and Allison transmission is owned by Allison GM does not build the power train in their HD truck

@@BlackHawkBallistic still an Isuzu

@@jasonamerica7618 thats right

Yep. In Ohio or Indiana you can get two of them for that much.

@J Medrano Leave it to an idiot to state the obvious. Here I thought the least expensive homes were in only the most desirable areas.

Cyumadbro summit it aint as bad if you live about 30 minutes from a major city like Cincinnati or Columbus

Getting to expensive ,I'm in Dallas 80,000 is a 2 room 900sq fixerupper . Taxes are skyhigh

Where I live in California that’s a months rent

Ive had mine mor 12 years but im only 30. You wouldnt catch me pulling 30,000lbs with a pick up truck, maybe in the prairies.

True, but you lose cargo capacity and towing capacity (5th wheel and gooseneck) compared to the F-350.

James Velvet Really, why? Does it share the chassis with the 350 so all the stronger components just penalize it in weight?

Chuck Beef ..... yes. Frame rear of cab has more metal, and so on. Bigger brakes is a plus. The turn radius is the best! Everyone has their priorities, me, I chose the turn radius and brakes vs payload

@@ChuckBeefOG Yes, the gross weight is higher in the F450 and that eats into cargo and 5th wheel/gooseneck ratings. That is also why gas F 350's have higher cargo ratings than a 450.

@@rh-et2vv Indeed! That is why I'm also considering a 450 as a base for a truck camper. My struggle is that the F450 is not available in a Supercab. I don't want a crew and not sure a regular cab would work. A F450 regular cab is what I might end up with just because it would be so maneuverable.

I suspect the Ford would win by an even larger gap in a loaded drag race given its torque advantage.

@@nathanmcdonald610 thanks, hopefully if we comment and like enough TFL will oblige us.

Agreed!

EXACTLY!!!!

This is the whole reason I watched the video! What a let down!

GARBAGE.

@@wonaldgrump9654 I don't think it's that bad for hauling that much. For either truck.

Another thing though is the ford ran at night with less turbulent air off of the highway and not only that the air is a lot more cold at night which makes the engine run a little better

Xzvius that’s while hauling ? That’s not bad

@@gamewarmaster it wasnt 100f summer temps during the day....prob about 40f during the day with the snow i saw still hanging around

I wouldn’t be surprised that it’s coming from the trailer and not the trucks

@@mwjnc Agree. I also wonder if it’s load placement. Having the load too far forward would create a similar situation with jerky movement.

Def isn't the issue, it's the DPF and EGR!

@@JohnDoe-nz6bk One less thing he needs to pay for. I agree with the OP.

Neo Smith yea, I'll give you that.

Lb7 still pulling

Agreed I got my lml deleted. To h3LL with the DEF

Where would you want the load? It looked like they had it just forward of the axles. Maybe dead center?

Looked alittle too far forward to me with alot of sag/wip in the middle but I'm no expert.

James Vokral over the trailer axles, it needed to come back some

Excavator wasnt up far enough on the tongue

@@jamesvokral8247 weight should be on the trailer axles

Dont let an ol timer with a 7.3 here that lol nothing pulls better than those haha

the gmc is tuned for fuel economy unfortunately lol

@@hugeCRSfan69 it was? It didn't get that trophy either lol

@@hugeCRSfan69 no the ford is just faster because it's more powerful, you chevy guys got some excuses I tell you

These trucks are damn near identical in performance and all you got out of this was "bUiLt FoRd ToUgH." 🤣

@@zach4321 Ford has much more power and much more torque...

best part is the ford transmission in the GMC is the same it just Branded Allison transmission, the transmission GM gave to ford was a front wheel drive 9-speed and FORD said in a real nice way its crap and ford refuse to put it in there cars. so that just goes to tell you that FORD transmission has to be GOOD but how GREAT and LONG last it will be only TIME will tell, But it a BUY not lease.

@@williampisano7573 ford doesn't use DM's nine-speed Transmissions because they don't have a car left to put it in. They don't make Passenger cars anymore. They already had a transmission for the suvs. And the Mustang is rear wheel drive. That doesn't leave them enough options to have a reason to put it in anything.

The Ford is running super hot for better MPG and emissions,,, wait until summer.

@@williampisano7573 Not sure where you get you information maybe it's CNN. But you are the epitome of ignorant. But than again anyone who likes Ford fits in to that class quit well.

@ZeroCool you sound like my European family members, "if it's not Scottish it's GMC!"...

Nathan Salyers they were also half the price

@@justinw.2376 Yep. And you still see the old trucks actually working. Rarely, do I see a brand new rig working, extremely rarely. Why would I dish out 80-100k for a truck, not even a Class 4 truck at that mind you, when the 20 year old cummings does it just fine?

IVAO04ify more line any old truck does it just fine. Not even just cummins

@@justinw.2376 That's not true. If you compare similar configurations, prices are virtually unchanged. It's hard to compare, because specs and standard features have been changed, but here's the best examples I could come up with. In 2010 an F-350 4x4 Supercrew Dually XLT PSD was around $50,000 before options. Adjusted for inflation, that's around $58,000-$59,000 today. Well, a comparable new XLT 4x4 Supercrew Dually, according to Ford, is $59,275 before options. That's right around the same price for basically 2x the capability. Honestly, given the modern version at a at marginally higher price, I'd still take the new one! The old 6.4L PSD was junk. The mileage and reliability savings with the newer 6.7L would easily pay itself back in a short amount of time for me.

@@IVAO04ify And where is this? I see countless numbers of brand spankin' new trucks being worked every single morning of the work week. I have two parked in my drive way, ready for Monday. You think mainly lawyers and doctors buy these trucks?

Scott Yes I have always owned Ford's. My first 79. Then a 2000 with the 10 cylinder. When new on Freeway trip across state it got 15 MPG Now driving around town it's like 8 or 9MPG. I do LOVE the look of the NEW GMC Trucks. I would switch brands. The Allison Tranny is so well built. It's proven itself in Garbage Truck usage. The GMC is the Cadillac Ride for Trucks. You have a great comfort Ride for what you do.

Absolutely, they’re simply asinine. Especially for a truck that’ll probably blow a head gasket inside 100,000mi

Yep, we get better mileage from out 01 than our 14 duramax and we don't have to deal with DEF and post bailout GM problems quarterly. The only downside is the 6 speed is nice for highway and the exhaust brakes on the new trucks are a game changer.

F40 comes with a pu bed and has a higher towing capacity due to larger brakes and components... I love my F450,,, rides so smooth, especially with Platinum trim

Yep 👍, they didn’t load it right. The weight is supposed to be over both axels...lol

@@chaosseat That's the first thing I thought as soon as they said it. Improper distribution will shake you and give you some white knuckles on the back roads.

I noticed the same thing. Tail of trailer was jumping all around.

To me it looked like the excavator was a little too far forward. I have been using gooseneck trailers now for a little over 20 years. They really don't seem to like a lot of tongue weight. But if these guys actually scaled the load it could be that was the correct placement. In my opinion this is why I wouldn't buy this particular set up. A full size truck would ride much better than that.

@@texgarcia1958 I can't help but laugh when people say excavator. In my mind I'm saying trackhoe. I guess Andre is keeping it PC😅😅

That different gear ratio is the .9 mpg difference ...but should make better mpg than the Ford unloaded I'm guessing?

Don't forget, the transmission gear ratios play a part in that too. Not just the rear end

GM 10 speed isn't really an Allison, in house transmission rebranded as an Allison.

cpt awesome ya they did as a matter of fact

cpt awesome 17:08

Most videos will show the diesel uses less fuel but they never compare the actual cost of gas being cheaper.

All you need is the mpg comparison. The rest is simple math you can do yourself.

Nobody wants to see little ford trucks towing

Jamie Webb most HD trucks w/ big V8’s require premium fuel. Meaning the gas is not cheaper

@@josephcreed7 aww did ford hurt you're feelings

I think the colder pavement makes a difference too

Black trucks matter

Dude! That GMC looks 10 times better and I'm a ford fan!

@@Hugo-py2ce what the hell no the GMC looks super bloated the Ford has proper proportions all of GM's recent designs have been trash there Camaro was so bad they had to redesigned before they were even hitting dealerships lol. What's better about the GMC?

@@armandomorales3809 ford looks way better imo.

@Hvac 2001 The current generation of GM trucks look like a step backwards compared to their previous counterparts. They look bloated and over complicated to me. That’s just my opinion though.

Stupid squareish wheel wells! Also never thought GM's tow mirrors could get uglier, then this happened!🤮 Looks like a bad copy of a Ford. And the Silverado was just born with Benjamin Button disease!

Good question. My 17 duramax can go about 5000 miles on a tank of DIF. My 18 cummins is about the same. Both are pulling trailers daily.

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​@@ezurmndsomeone was mad

They're both such cool engines. Banks Performance is in the process of killing (or _attempting_ to kill) an L5P over on their YT channel. They're cranking up the power until something breaks. Made it over 700hp, and I think they're on their way to over 800 with some new injectors, new fuel pump, and upgraded turbo. Can't wait to see where/how it dies.

Yeah the problem is it took Ford literally a decade-and-a-half to beat GM. It's probably going to take GM all of 2 years to catch up to Ford and smoke them again...and we're not even talking about reliability here. ford likely still wont compare there, but time will tell.

Oh please GM been crap since the recession. People think its 1979 over here. People act like you can drive a GM 400000 without no engine lights or sensors going. That's BS. People act Fords crankshaft splits in half and the piston blows out of the hood. GM made some shitty ass motors and designs too. Dont act like every vehicle that comes off the assembly is near perfect. 5.4s Triton 2 valve is a tough ass motor. 3.6L V6 by GM is crap especially their timing belt snapping by 25000 miles. Their Atlas motors were a nightmare especially the 5 cylinder with the same issue. Have the drop the front end to get to the belt. GMs duramax is the same freaking motor since 2001. Plus it's not even GM. Its freaking Isuzu in a GM Shell with the fake 10speed allison. Japanese diesel. The 6.7 is the only in house built diesel and last time I checked that thing is bulletproof with the 6R140 transmission that is a close second to the Allison

@@johnathanleonardo912 The 3.6 has a chain genius. The ones that had problems were in 4,700 pound SUVs and generally weren't having oil changed at even intervals. And even then they were making it to 75k to 100k miles before they had an issue with the chain. The Ford 5.4 on the other hand it's just a giant pile of dogshit that should have never been in anything ever. Far more 3.6 units still being driven home than the 5.4 piles of dogshit and they made probably the same amount of them in the mid-2000s. Thanks for bringing up another sore subject though. You're right, Ford couldn't make gas V8 back then either. It wasn't just their 6.0 diesels that were garbage. Meanwhile the 6.0 GM v8 was several years into becoming a work truck mainstay...even back then already.

@@johnathanleonardo912just so you know, General Motors owns a large portion of Isuzu. That's why Isuzu uses gasoline GM V8s in a lot of their box trucks. Unfortunately Ford did not have the same luck as they did not own any portion of international while International was building their 7.3 s back in the day. No engineering from Ford whatsoever went into that motor, which is probably why it was largely successful. The Duramax 6.6 has had plenty of GM hands on it.

Agree.