Shoot em up. Is a great action along with the punisher 2004

ZULU, Starring Michael Caine or LAWRENCE OF ARABIA, Starring Peter O' Toole

A couple of under-rated ones: 'The Eagle' w Channing Tatum (It's actually a decent movie and he did really well in it) and 'The 13th Warrior' w Antonio Bandares.

yes please watch Game of Thrones!

Sin city is another one based on a Frank Miller novel and is really good. Also directed by Miller is the underrated movie The Spirit that features Samuel L Jackson as the villain.

Also, given in Sparta only 2 sorts of death earned you a tombstone as a form of immortalising your passing from this world, women who died while giving birth and men who died fighting for Sparta, and as the army was divided in smaller companies who were only accepting recruits invited by members, one had to demonstrate skill, courage and ability to get invited and therefore have more chances to face combat so as years closed to the age limits permitting active duty, veterans fought the hardest making the best of their few remaining chances.

it also has the added effect of every warrior being a veteran. A people that live and breathe combat, and only the most experienced and deadly got the honor of being a royal guard.

It should be noted that this is an apocryphal claim. There is no historical evidence that he actually did that. Spartans did care about replacing lost men in general, though. One of the last things Leonidas famously told Gorgo before leaving was to "bear sons". Leonidas himself was indeed older, as he was 60 years old at the time.

@@noxteryn Leonidas in this film is only in his early 40's. (The story told about his killing the wolf "has been more than 30 years ago")

I'd like to see that!

@@jenmurrayxo Watch the extended version if you can find it!

​@@eddiejravannen meh, the theatre cut is the better imo of the two.

Yep, Sin City is a great film.

@@drew.168 Agreed, the theatrical version beats the extended version

Why more people don’t call this out I don’t understand, such a good line.

Also he was a mutant

The ultimate Spartan insult. Leonidas gave him a chance to prove himself, even if not the way he wanted, and he threw it away; just like his father’s equipment, as well as his pride. It’s a deleted scene that shows him trying to literally throw his life away after the rejection, by jumping off the cliff, only to survive the landing. He definitely earned Leonidas’ curse from that alone.

And he does live forever - for one word in Greek for "nightmare" is Ephialtes...

That’s true. But immortality is a curse- not a blessing. Ask any vampire. I told someone I hate on Facebook I hope she lives FOREVER. It looked like a happy life (to her) but since I don’t like this person, the photo collection was a nightmare to me.

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fun fact after an all day shoot to get that line right he asked for 1 more go and just let everything out and thus born a meme

@@the_ejj cool fact bro

I personally like "then we will fight in the shade" more. It has hidden strength and deep meaning to it.

Another great line is when he says to the traitor "I hope you will live forever" - such an insult in a culture where true glory is finding death in battle

He regained his honor by chopping down so many of the enemy in the battle that put an end to the Persian empire.

The Battle of Plataea happened the year following Thermopolye where "Dilios" would meet his end. So while it is correct that he was shunned as a coward and did indeed redeem himself it was for only a year that he suffered such a slight.

I understand the premise about being shunned for not dying in battle in Sparta but they are soldiers first, and he was following the direct orders of his king, he showed his loyalty by not dying and following the orders of his commander and bringing his final orders to the council and his people. But mob think is mob think no matter what century you are in.

Not years. He died fighting bravely in the last battle depicted in the end of movie a year ago.

Because he ran. Not because he survived lol

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@@fannybuster SOME of the abs were enhanced with makeup, but they we’re definitely real. I can’t remember if it was in the dvd extras or a separate interview but the cast workouts were insane.

@@jenmurrayxoThe main crew went through a grueling training regime consisting out of 300 reps and a strict dieet. They had to do Pull-ups - 25 reps, Deadlifts with 135lbs - 50 reps, Push-ups - 50 reps, 24" box jumps - 50 reps, Floor wipers - 50 reps, Clean-and-press with 36lbs kettlebell - 50 reps, Pull-ups - 25 reps, all without a break between them and as fast as possible, one actor manage to do them in 18 minutes, and 11 seconds. They than also used some makeup effects like shadowing to make the abs stand out more.

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King Xerxes wasn't tyrannical, though. At least, no more than King Leonidas. Also, the concept of nation wasn't really a thing back then. People fought because of duty. Sparta operated on a slave economy. This idea of "free men fighting against tyranny" is Americanised nonsense. Both Greeks and Persians owned slaves, and both were imperialistic.

@@noxteryn it's not Americanized nonsense, it a historical piece that maintains contemporary values. Art is supposed to be a mirror to society. We aren't going to make art today, that reflects the values of thousands of years ago, that not the purpose of art.

@@BadassRaiden I'm not denying it's art. Anyone can create whatever art they want. But art is not beyond criticism, and it's certainly not beyond basic common sense. The culture depicted is completely nonsensical and hugely influenced by American rhetoric: "A new age is upon us, an age of freedom!" This is literally nonsense. Leonidas would never say such a thing, as that statement would mean nothing to him or the people of Ancient Greek cultures. And yes, you can create whatever art you want, with whatever values you want. You can make a movie about Nigerian Samurai fighting against Italian Vikings and quoting Hitler. It would still be nonsense. What you are describing here is called historical white-washing. The Greeks weren't the "good guys" and Persians weren't the "bad guys". It wasn't "free men standing up to tyranny". It was one superpower fighting another superpower. That's why it's Americanised nonsense. Because it promotes this notion of exceptionalism, of being the hero of your own story, and that your side is always fighting for "muh freedom" while the other side "hates freedom". I can assure you, here in Greece, pretty much the only people who liked the movie's depictions of the events, cultures, and peoples, were ultranationalist conservatives.

@@noxteryn not saying that it's not beyond criticism, but the criticism needs to be valid and I just don't think your criticism is. This is not meant to be a historical piece. It's a historical *set* piece, injected with contemporary values. Leonidas isn't meant to actually represent the Leonidas of the past. He represents what we might interpret a leader like him existing in contemporary society. Likewise, this isnt whitewashing because it's not meant to be an accurate historical piece anyways, and that is the primary aspect of white washing; changing or altering history. This isn't meant to be history. It took one legend, the tale of the 300 Spartans, and injected it with contemporary values. That's it. I don't agree that "an age of freedom" is strictly American rhetoric. In fact, I think it's quite a universally popular sentiment, considering how since then, there has been an ever increasing rise of standing up to authoritarianism around the globe. Again, the Greeks may not have been the good guys, and the Persians bad guys but this film was never meant to depict them as historically accurate. I also don't really agree that it promotes exceptionalism either. Persians are the only antagonist, and I don't find that they meaningfully and purposefully attempted to portray Spartans as being exceptional compared to the Persians. Except of course, in their fighting ability but if we are being honest, most historians already view and talk about the phalanx as an exceptionally well and effective combat tactic. I will concede to your last statement though. I have no doubt that the majority of people in your country who enjoyed the film were ultranationalist conservatives, because the majority of people who enjoyed in my country, the US, were also ultranationalist conservatives. But I think a lot of that has to do with our biases, as does anything. I mean if we are honest, typically ANY film that even utters the word freedom, is gonna make conservatives go crazy for it. I however, not being a conservative, did not interpret it say, the way you did, as having all these Americanized undertones. I took it for what it was, a film, a piece of art. Not a biography. Not a historical recreation of events. Now it might be the case that I didn't know enough of the actual history to feel a way about it similar to you, however I did know that Sparta was a slave economy when I first saw the film. But I didn't care about this internal contradictions between the story and the history because again, I knew this was not supposed to be a historically accurate recreation of events and people. I just took the film for what it was, and moved by its message and sentiment. I want elaborate further on the one piece that I think you were closest on, yet still incorrect. That is of course, the critique of whitewashing. There was a film that just came out, cakes The Woman King with Viola Davis. So so so many liberal voices online have accused this film of whitewashing, because it left out the very crucial fact that the society it's attempting to portray was, like Sparta, a slave society. But again, like 300, this film is not meant to be a historical piece, a biography, or a recreation of events. It had a story to tell, and it wanted to also wanted to expose audiences to this ancient society. So it used this culture to tell that story, and aspects of that culture did not help tell the story it wanted to tell, so it left them out. Including them having a slave based society didn't add to the story, nor did it necessarily take away from the story. It would have just created unnecessary internal contradictions and gotten in the way of the story. The point of going into a movie is to always remember that it's a movie. Suspend your disbelief yes, but always remember in the back of your mind that what you are seeing isn't real, and isn't supposed to be interpreted as accurate. It would have been one thing, if at the beginning of 300 it said, "Based on a True Story," but it didn't. Even then though, there are certain liberties film makers and screen writers take with source material for pieces that are actually based on true stories. It's like saying Braveheart whitewashed history too, because William Wallace, from the little we know about him, didn't come from a commoner family. He was a highly respected, well known knight of Scotland's army. He did have a wife he married in secret, nor was she murdered. I mean kilts weren't even invented in Scotland yet during that time period, and they certainly didn't just wear leather and fabrics for protection against well armored English soldiers. The scots were just as armored. But it's clear why certain filmmaking liberties were taken. They put them in kilts despite them not existing in that time period, because kilts are easily identifiable Scottish garments. They made Wallace come from a poor working family because they wanted to tell a story that even those who are viewed as powerless can rise to become powerful enough to fight power. It's easier to articulate oppression when oneside looks more well off, more protected, more capable than the other side, which is why they made the Scots not have steel armor like the English. That also helps to distinguish between them, and it also leads credence to the underdog sentiment, that the scots prevailed despite being outnumbered and out equipped. It's not white washing though. White washing is a *deliberate* attempt, and that is the key word used in the actual definition of white washing - to purposefully portray a historical events, society, individuals, or culture inaccurately, in an attempt to hide certain pieces of information. None of these film, including 300, did that. Anyone who gets upset when historical set pieces are not accurate, as far as I'm concerned, takes films too seriously.

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Maybe even more accurate as the stylized nature of the movie is like how I've heard Spartans had a way with words and intimidation back then. The hype of the pre-fight trash talk where it robs the enemy of their heart and will to fight. Reputation and wit. Action hero one-liners 2,500 years ago.

@@jayeisenhardt1337 Interesting that you mentioned the trash talk, because some of the lines Leonidas says in the movie are DIRECTLY translated from accounts of the battle itself.

@@jayeisenhardt1337 known as "Laconic wit"

@@stobe187 It is messy, yeah, but still cool

Snyder can make exceptional visuals, but every other aspect in his films are... iffy.

@@mizrolist agreed Zach turned a 2 1/2 hour dumpster fire of the Justice League movie into a 4 hour dumpster fire of Hot garbage Justice League movie.

Excellent observation along the lines of what I was thinking, and the stylistic elements and photography give it a feeling of it being a campfire tail.

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2500 years... if the Gregorian calendar is correct, in 2023 the battle was 2503 years ago.

@@economath8164 I did say over...

@@chrisking6667 ...and yet your so saying was still imprecise by half a millennium.

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GoT should for sure be your next show to watch!

I agree. I would love to see GOT reactions!

GoT is a LONG haul for a reactor... Totally worth it, IMHO, but, it IS a big commitment... I can't think of another reactor I'd like to see do it more than Jen, though!

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Because it was just a stroll...

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