300 WSM on Steroids? - Season 3 Episode 17

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Ron Spomer Outdoors - Podcast

Ron Spomer Outdoors - Podcast

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Welcome to the Ron Spomer Outdoors Podcast! In this episode, I answer listern questions about Vin Sparano, the Winchester WSSM, bolt action rifles in 7.62x39, and a wildcat 300 WSM on steroids.
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Who is Ron Spomer
For 44 years I’ve had the good fortune to photograph and write about my passion - the outdoor life. Wild creatures and wild places have always stirred me - from the first flushing pheasant that frightened me out of my socks in grandpa’s cornfield to the last whitetail that dismissed me with a wag of its tail. In my attempts to connect with this natural wonder, to become an integral part of our ecosystem and capture a bit of its mystery, I’ve photographed, hiked, hunted, birded, and fished across much of this planet. I've seen the beauty that everyone should see, survived adventures that everyone should experience. I may not have climbed the highest mountains, canoed the wildest rivers, caught the largest fish or shot the biggest bucks, but I’ve tried. Perhaps you have, too. And that’s the essential thing. Being out there, an active participant in our outdoor world.
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All loading, handloading, gunsmithing, shooting and associated activities and demonstrations depicted in our videos are conducted by trained, certified, professional gun handlers, instructors, and shooters for instructional and entertainment purposes only with emphasis on safety and responsible gun handling. Always check at least 3 industry handloading manuals for handloading data, 2 or 3 online ballistic calculators for ballistic data. Do not modify any cartridge or firearm beyond what the manufacturer recommends. Do not attempt to duplicate, mimic, or replicate anything you see in our videos. Firearms, ammunition, and constituent parts can be extremely dangerous if not used safely.

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@wesadrian6981
@wesadrian6981 Жыл бұрын
The 50BMG necked down to.22 calibre was called the Eargesplitten Loudenbommer!😂
@suemeade2471
@suemeade2471 Жыл бұрын
I think it was 30-378 wetherby necked down to 22.
@wesadrian6981
@wesadrian6981 Жыл бұрын
Actually you are correct. It was the 378 Weatherby. Not the 50 BMG
@joshsmith3650
@joshsmith3650 Жыл бұрын
And here I thought a red neck did that, I wouldn’t have guessed a German lmao. I appreciate all the wild cat cartridges.
@mylesharvey6488
@mylesharvey6488 Жыл бұрын
Maybe Yaegermeister positions need to be introduced into the US!
@danielcurtis1434
@danielcurtis1434 11 ай бұрын
That was .378 weatherby with 130 or so grains of capacity. The .50 BMG has just under 300!!! So yeah big difference!!!
@reconrc1787
@reconrc1787 Жыл бұрын
Man i loved the Super Short Mag cases. I still shoot the 300WSSM and 243WSSM often. Its a shame winchester didn't do better marketing.
@warrengreen3217
@warrengreen3217 Жыл бұрын
Im not a fan of the short mags never seen the need, I dont get the hype over short actions or standard actions or magnum action i own them all and i run the bolt all the same
@LRRPFco52
@LRRPFco52 Жыл бұрын
They burn powder more efficiently and generate consistent SDs. .25 WSSM is the best one of them all and would be great with the new line of 131-135gr bullets. Mag capacity is affected due to cartridge diameter.
@JamesJones-cx5pk
@JamesJones-cx5pk Жыл бұрын
How fast is the 243?
@user-vj2wt7jh7j
@user-vj2wt7jh7j Жыл бұрын
The 243WSSM mag looks like a good design what do you think of it compared to something like 243 Winchester which I have several rifles chambered in although 243 Win has the benefit of being very available? Do you have much trouble finding brass? I like 7mm WSM luckily I bought a bunch of brass since it seems to be disappearing.
@orr89rocz
@orr89rocz Жыл бұрын
Whats a 300 wssm? Is that like a 30 BR on steroids?
@trapperbobpatriot8288
@trapperbobpatriot8288 Жыл бұрын
16 days and a wake up till we leave for South Africa. We are so excited!!!!
@oldgandy5355
@oldgandy5355 Жыл бұрын
You have a unique way of presenting good information, not too hype filled, but using verifiable data. I also enjoy listening to your Hunting Stories. I remember reading Ed Zern's Exit Laughing column columns at the back of the magazines. They reminded me that you have to have a bright spot once in a while to lighten the mood which can overwhelm a lot of people. Another "mood lifter" was Patrick McManus. His camping, hunting, fishing and general life guide "docudramas" were a source of much enjoyment on dark winter nights in the Okanogan Country of Washington. His guide for a successful "Hunker" is priceless. We need more hunkering and less bombastic shouting in our society, and you present a good blend of the two.
@RonSpomerOutdoors
@RonSpomerOutdoors Жыл бұрын
More hunkering! I love it, Oldgandy. Thanks for the message.
@neilis2405
@neilis2405 Жыл бұрын
@11:07 I'm completely with you on the gear stuff. Hunting can mean different things to different people. Each person can take from it what they will but not everyone feels some mystical ooey-gooey energy while afield. I hunt because I enjoy it; its that simple. Not everything has to have some deeper meaning.
@ariellerice8344
@ariellerice8344 Жыл бұрын
Well said from mine own heart
@mattevans-koch9353
@mattevans-koch9353 Жыл бұрын
Great video Ron. Looking forward to seeing some video from your hunt in Namibia. Best wishes for a great weekend ahead.
@JamesJones-cx5pk
@JamesJones-cx5pk Жыл бұрын
Great as always Ron. I got to meet Rick Jamison at a SHOT show years ago when I worked for API treestands. I also got to meet Col.Craig Boddington. I met Melvin Forbes of Ultra Light Arms and many other gun writers. I even got an autograph from Tink.🤣. The torch it seems has been passed to you. You represent the shooting sports well.👍
@RonSpomerOutdoors
@RonSpomerOutdoors Жыл бұрын
Thank you, James.
@donaldslayton2769
@donaldslayton2769 Жыл бұрын
The question about the necked down .50BMG case reminds me of the 8mm German anti tank round 7.92x94mm
@arthurshingler2025
@arthurshingler2025 Жыл бұрын
A 300 WSM is a good cartridge. More than necesarry for most of my hunting, but it's a handy caliber in a short action rifle. If the 308 won't suffice, then the 300 WSM will improve your odds.
@x-3928
@x-3928 Жыл бұрын
The Monarch Hollow Point is an awesome round for the 7.62x39. I get sub MOA out of it.
@SasquatchComposites
@SasquatchComposites Жыл бұрын
I've been loving your podcast since I came across it shortly after applying for my first tag. That meat buck video you mentioned was very enjoyable to watch, and I'd love to see more hunting story videos like it from you.
@johnnash5118
@johnnash5118 Жыл бұрын
Hi Ron, I inherited a rifle from my mom yesterday; she inherited it 30 years ago from her dad, who inherited it from his father in-law as a wedding gift when he retired from hunting with it in 1935. The rifle is a first generation Savage Model 99 with the straight lever and straight-grip stock, serial number 121335, produced in 1912 (according to the Savage SN checker.) It would be great to hear your review of this legendary rifle, with its innovative features such as a Take-down barrel that’s switchable with other barrel models; a small round-counter window on the left side of the receiver; a rotary-style magazine permitting the use of spitzer bullets, which competing tubular-magazine rifles could not handle, and a cocking indicator on the top of the receiver. It’s far from pristine, with longitudinal cracks on the fore-end grip and stock, and surface pits on the barrel, so I feel good on keeping the grip and stock in my safe, slapping on some Boyds XX grade walnut replacements, and taking her out into Oregon’s Coast Range forests to hunt the black-tails my grandfather and great-grandfather hunted with it. It’s funny; I was thinking about getting a brush gun last week, en lieu of hunting again with my tang-safety M-77 before receiving this wonderful gift. Pa pow! I’m happier’n a butcher’s pup!
@fedup3582
@fedup3582 Жыл бұрын
What caliber is your 99 chambered for?
@Canadianhunter
@Canadianhunter Жыл бұрын
Ron, I love watching your videos and learning from you. You have a wealth of knowledge, and present things in a great way. If there was one famous person I would like to hunt with, you would be the one.
@backroad4167
@backroad4167 Жыл бұрын
For the ruger American 7.62x39 question prvi partisan makes that brass case soft point bullets that’s really good ammo I had a single shot in that caliber and prvi shot the best and I took several deer with it
@Pepe46873
@Pepe46873 Жыл бұрын
Ruger ranch 7.62x39 is a great rifle. You can get lots of trigger time with cheap ammo then move to factory hunting ammo or handloads with very little poa change and tight groups. I found average 1.3 groups with factory hunting loads and .8 or tighter with handloads . Definitely nice to shoot surplus ammo for practice instead of 45$+ a box ammo like many other rifles
@Cr0wmagnum
@Cr0wmagnum Жыл бұрын
Herters 7.62×39mm soft points from Bass Pro and Cabalas is relatively affordable and shoots good from my little Ruger. I think they are loaded by Winchester by the headstamp and styrofoam in the box. I would avoid anything with a steel jacket soft or hollow point for deer.
@daveknowles3055
@daveknowles3055 Жыл бұрын
Being retired I am down with the 2 podcasts a week. One of my few complaints with RSO has always been that you release 1 KZfaq video and 1 podcast a week and they are on consecutive days leaving a huge 5 day gap in my ability to enjoy your material. A second podcast will fill this niche nicely. Thanks
@keegandentici6105
@keegandentici6105 Жыл бұрын
Love the podcasts Ron. I have been reading your articles since I was a child and continue to enjoy your podcasts. If you could, or rather if you would not mind, maybe dive into the discussion some day on 30-30 and how it changes when you he the advantages of a box fed bolt action such as my stevems model 325 B. I have taken several bear countless number of deer and two Elk with the rifle now.
@user-eg8hb8xt3j
@user-eg8hb8xt3j Жыл бұрын
Hi Ron ! Can you do a podcast/ video on the effects of shooting in the rain ! Accuracy and down range velocity ! I’ve never seen that covered . Thanks for the great content
@LRRPFco52
@LRRPFco52 Жыл бұрын
I've done a lot of it, including from artillery observation towers out to 1300yds in sideways rain at a Sniper competition. We just took the wind into consideration and shot like normal with the same hit rates.
@jfess1911
@jfess1911 Жыл бұрын
The issue is that Winchester essentially stole Jamison's cartridge designs and did not change them enough to avoid the lawsuit. Remington had independently developed their SAUM cartridges, so they were not involved. Jamison had worked with Winchester and Ruger for the "JRW" (Jamison, Ruger, Winchester) cartridges but had done most of the development himself and thought he had an agreement with them. Apparently Ruger was fine with the original agreement but Winchester decided that they wouldn't sign or pay Jamison. You can see the details with the "Jamison vs Olin Corporation-Winchester Division" details online.
@KaiIngebrigtsen
@KaiIngebrigtsen Жыл бұрын
408 cheytac shell necked up to take .458 Barnes TTSX BT Socom 300grs. i call it the 45 Qdums... Quigley down under magnum special :D :D :D
@Yetified_Mayhem
@Yetified_Mayhem 11 ай бұрын
Being Gear heads is just our nature, it's not just hunting. We search for edge and it's fun, it's more emotional piece of mind than anything. Its the same in every hobby I have and in my job.
@mountainview540
@mountainview540 Жыл бұрын
I used a 7.62x39 for deer last year. Used barnal soft points
@EC-mc7vg
@EC-mc7vg Жыл бұрын
I have killed many a pig here in Texas with 7.62x39. I use the PPU 123 grain Soft Points ( short and stubby with a round nose like a .30-30 bullet) and the PPU Pointed Soft Points. I use the Soft Points in my AR guns that have the one big "300 Blackout" feed ramp and the Pointed Soft Points on the others with M4 feed ramps. The big round bullet of the Soft Points will hit the M4 feed ramps and get gouged up. Both have been very effective on hogs and are very affordable.
@doylethorn9251
@doylethorn9251 Жыл бұрын
Have y'all forgot about the side scope mount that came out for Winchester top eject lever guns? My Dads '92 30-30 still has that mount on it.
@warrengreen3217
@warrengreen3217 Жыл бұрын
I bought another win94 own 2 of them but it got the side mount with scope I took it off very ugly or wired looking to me i need to get machine screws to put in the tap holes cant put the ones back in cuz their longer cuz of the mount I really dont have too it works all the same but to stop dirt and whatever else could get in the few tap holes
@fedup3582
@fedup3582 Жыл бұрын
I prefer putting a scout scope, or medium eye relief scope on the top ejects. Then your scope is in line with your bore instead of off on one side.
@reconrc1787
@reconrc1787 Жыл бұрын
I have one as well mounted on my winchester 30-30. For the effective range of the 30-30 it's a great option. Like anything else, you must practice and get used to the setup.
@snowstorm8180
@snowstorm8180 11 ай бұрын
People who lost an eye a long time ago use to be able to take their rifle and shotgun to the local gunsmith and have a bent or curved stock put on them. They still shouldered it in there right shoulder but the stock bent to the left so they could aim with their left eye. You rarely see them now a days since they make left handed guns. But you can look it up to learn more about it. Canadian classics has a short on here showing one.
@allanbaker659
@allanbaker659 11 ай бұрын
a really good option for shooting the 7.62 x 39 is the cor-bon ammo. especially if shooting out of a 308 barrel. I had 2 minii 30 rifles converted to true 308 bores by a company in Colorado that specialized in accurizing the mini 30's. they are about .5 moa rifles , and my children used them for several years and took deer out to 250 yds with cor-bon ammo. I think they were 150 gr .
@allthingsconsidered3211
@allthingsconsidered3211 Жыл бұрын
Psi is pounds per square inch. Metal yeild strength is measured in psi. So when a cart is bogger but the same psi. The metal has to be much thicker. So a 50 bmg case could need a huge wall. Shotguns are like 12ksi not 60
@JadedGLORY2689
@JadedGLORY2689 Жыл бұрын
Hello Ron, love the channel as I've been a fan for some time now and enjoy the content you bring. I understand that you hunt all over the World and spens time out in far off desolate places more than your average person. My question to you is have you ever seen or experienced anything that you couldn't explain? Maybe saw something that threw you for a loop or had an experience that you couldn't explain? Curious to know, anyhow thanks and God Bless.
@ariellerice8344
@ariellerice8344 Жыл бұрын
Humm my friend I am a member of club of no return. Humm round table of knowledge. Humm. I have had experiences in field and close to home. To not unexplainable. Humm.
@donaldrussell4218
@donaldrussell4218 Жыл бұрын
I like the way BERGER bullets work.
@bentoncushing8693
@bentoncushing8693 Жыл бұрын
Love Hammer products,,,,great folks too..
@jackelinemeter8914
@jackelinemeter8914 Жыл бұрын
I have a romainian ak47 I have taken deer with at short range. I used a tula 154gr soft point it worked wonderfully had great expansion.
@kirkboswell2575
@kirkboswell2575 Жыл бұрын
7.62x39 by Hornady, PPU, S&B, Nosler, and UNDERWOOD all make decent hunting ammo. Aguilla also loads this cartridge, but all I've seen is FMJ stuff from them. Of those mentioned, my preference is UNDERWOOD.
@fedup3582
@fedup3582 Жыл бұрын
I can understand that there is good reason for a guide to provide follow up shots on a game animal if it is going to get away wounded and the hunter is unable to stop it, or in the situation of hunting dangerous game, things go sour and someone could potentially get hurt, but barring these instances, if someone chose to put some shots into my game animal, it would really sour my hunting experience. If someone else is going to fill my tag, then I could just as well stay home.
@Russ1tonram
@Russ1tonram Жыл бұрын
We still hunt for meat and you all should be prepared for a time when if you don't eat bugs you will need to hunt for meat. And no I'm not a pepper.
@jasonshults368
@jasonshults368 11 ай бұрын
Why aren't you a prepper? Do you imagine the label is an insult?
@FAtE_454
@FAtE_454 Жыл бұрын
16:30 Richard, look for the federal fusion factory loaded stuff, I've taken a few deer with it out of my old Norinco sks
@Perry2186
@Perry2186 Жыл бұрын
The big thing that hurt the marlin express was they came out just before they were bought by Remington
@tracy4050
@tracy4050 Жыл бұрын
What happened to the 325 WSM? Was it too much for deer?
@robertsherrick6276
@robertsherrick6276 8 ай бұрын
I shoot a 6.5 by 300 wsm and it hits hard out to a mile 153 gn. a tip 55 gn rl23
@user-ku3is1on8n
@user-ku3is1on8n 9 ай бұрын
Wild game and a garden is what I live off of.
@cabinetmunch
@cabinetmunch Жыл бұрын
I believe P.O. Ackley necked a 50bmg all the way to .17 caliber and shot it through a smooth bore. All in an effort to reach 5000+ fps. The name he gave it: The Eargesplitten Loudenboomer
@richarddoucet7661
@richarddoucet7661 Жыл бұрын
it wasn't a 50bmg it was a 378 weatherby magnum necked down to 22 cal
@ricktaylor3748
@ricktaylor3748 Жыл бұрын
The way kids are today, if it doesn't or can't be done with a cell phone. They don't want anything to do with it.
@LinuxInvictus
@LinuxInvictus Жыл бұрын
I use the sks alot, though I haven't taken a deer with it, you can get Barnaul in hollow point and lead point pretty easily.
@jmgates09
@jmgates09 Жыл бұрын
Sks is what I killed my first 3 deer with
@LinuxInvictus
@LinuxInvictus Жыл бұрын
@@jmgates09 That makes you based.
@walterminer4990
@walterminer4990 Жыл бұрын
Hi Ron! I think simple, small doses, is great. However, if I get notified, I'll watch! Me, I'm a handgun gun guy with preferably odd calibers. But, your rifle info interests me greatly! Best to ya',,,,!
@johnnash5118
@johnnash5118 Жыл бұрын
The SAUM has the longest necks of all of the short-wide cartridges.
@TylerJames-gf8ms
@TylerJames-gf8ms Жыл бұрын
*DATS A THICCCC BOI!*
@donaldrussell4218
@donaldrussell4218 11 ай бұрын
You forgot to take me hunting with you.
@RonSpomerOutdoors
@RonSpomerOutdoors 11 ай бұрын
There's still time.
@warrengreen3217
@warrengreen3217 Жыл бұрын
I dont own 7.62×39 but i know they make a few hunting rounds for whitetail i seen them in federal fusion
@danielcurtis1434
@danielcurtis1434 11 ай бұрын
What happens if he rotates the scope so it’s straight up and down with regard to the reticle? Would it help or just hurt??? It wouldn’t be in line with the barrel anymore so I’m assuming it would be awful.
@RonSpomerOutdoors
@RonSpomerOutdoors 11 ай бұрын
If scope is mounted right or left of the barrel but the reticle is level, it should shoot fine to about 200 yards. The issue is the crossing of the line of sight. Zero to hit the target at 100 yards and your bullet will be moving from the offset (let's say the right side) across the line of sight at 100 yards. This angle of trajectory then keeps it moving ever farther right, so at 200 yards it could be an inch or more off point-of-aim. In addition the bullet is dropping, same as with a centered scope.
@danielcurtis1434
@danielcurtis1434 11 ай бұрын
@@RonSpomerOutdoors Ok I wasn’t clear I apologize. I was saying if you were using a high scope rings with the rifle canted, what happens if you rotate the scope so the crosshairs align up and down with the ground when your in your canted shooting stance and not the barrel when your shooting??? I can’t imagine anything good, but crazier things have happened…
@kenjones9169
@kenjones9169 Жыл бұрын
I am curious. Now there is a round at 80,000psi. How mush pressure can a brass case take?
@randyarnell3592
@randyarnell3592 Жыл бұрын
The problem with this hi tec is it’s turning hunting into just shooting !
@RonSpomerOutdoors
@RonSpomerOutdoors Жыл бұрын
Actually, it's the individual hunters who choose to turn hunting into just shooting. High tech gear eggs them on and improves their chances.
@brettellis1837
@brettellis1837 Жыл бұрын
LOOKS LIKE A ROCKET.
@justinperryman6317
@justinperryman6317 Жыл бұрын
Hi
@normanlapierre142
@normanlapierre142 Жыл бұрын
so i herd a few weeks ago that they where doing away with the 300 wsm do you know if thats true or not
@thompsonjerry3412
@thompsonjerry3412 Жыл бұрын
The biggest impediment to hunting are the stupid regulations and the crazy fees!
@RonSpomerOutdoors
@RonSpomerOutdoors Жыл бұрын
I'd put "finding access" in the top three.
@hammerheadms
@hammerheadms Жыл бұрын
Necking down a .50 BMG to .338 to fit in a short action fat magnum just would not work in a standard short action reciever. Your bolt head diameter with the .50 BMG is enormous by comaparison, and would never fit standard rifles. You would have to use a .50 BMG action and bolt, and if you want that shortened, you are either going to have to use the same .50 BMG reciever, or a custom machined reciever with a shortened.50 BMG bolt. I guess that could be a real kick in the teeth (no pun intended), but it just seems a bit unfeasible to me.... Of course this has already been, kind of, done. Not with a .50 BMG parent case, but with a .416 Rigby parent case, in the .338 Lapua Magnum. Not quite the diameter of the mighty .50 BMG, but definitely something shortened when compared the the Ma Deuce. On the same case come, also, the .375 Chey Tac, and .408 Chey Tac. Probably best to save yourself the money and hassle of modding a .50 BMG when you could spend a little less on one of those magnums that are already SAAMI spect.
@danielcurtis1434
@danielcurtis1434 11 ай бұрын
I don’t know that reverence for the outdoors can be obtained through influence??? I don’t think Ron has much to do (no offense Ron) with it. To revere something you have to experience it, the rest is up to the person. Give them the opportunity and wait… It will happen…
@knobjob2839
@knobjob2839 Жыл бұрын
You can barely see the channel logo. White on light grey is a bad choice
@jheasley1
@jheasley1 Жыл бұрын
Waiting for 300 wsm on steroids🤔
@orr89rocz
@orr89rocz Жыл бұрын
14:25
@warrengreen3217
@warrengreen3217 Жыл бұрын
I like the TTX for hand loading in my 303British but hand loading or factory bullets for my 30-06,308,30-30 and 6.5creed im a lead bullet guy dont think all ever switch to copper bullets
@ronlowney4700
@ronlowney4700 Жыл бұрын
🕵️‍♂️ Only Yesterday I watched a video podcast of a Guy Claiming to be an "Idaho Elk Hunting Guide"! He was doing a podcast of His Favorite 6 ELK HUNTING CARTRIDGES! The First one on his list was the 6.5 Creedmore! ☹ To Make Matters Worse, He Claimed It Was a "Thousand Yard Elk Hunting Cartridge"! 🤦‍♂️ And, to make matters even worse, he said that he hunts with Burger Bullets (A Frangible Bullet)! 😬 Now, as you know, the majority of hunters don't reload and will buy the cheapest Ammunition that they can, before going hunting! I know, because I have worked in several different sporting goods stores! So, let's just say that they buy Horneday's Factory Ammunition with a 130 grain Horneday ELD-X bullet! Now, run the velocity and energy numbers at 1,000 yards and see what you get? Reloading Weatherby recently did a podcast - showing that this bullet had only 30% weight retention! So, 130 grains times 0.3 = 39 grains of weight retention! 🤢 Now, my 22 long rifle with a 40 grain solid copper bullet will have just as much retained weight and velocity at close range as the 6.5 Creedmore will at 1,000 yards! Would you hunt and shoot elk with a 22 long rifle? Just Rediculous! 😳 But, that is no different than what many of these 6.5 Creedmore Owners will be trying this fall, thanks to this "Idiot Guide" and his U-Tube Podcast? Just think of how many hunters are out their with their 6.5 Creedmore in the Woods and Trying to Hunt Elk? Now Just Imagine if 40% of them are using target bullets to do so and are even willing to take 1,000 yard shots on elk with that load? 🤯 Get the "Point Yet"??? 😱 This is why you need to speak up loud and often on this matter! 🗣 Do I Need to Draft Legislation to Force Manufacturers to put "Not for Hunting" on the Box, Establish the Minimum and Maximum Calibers to hunt a specific species, and Force Every Game Warden to examine every carcus that comes through their checking station to see if it was harvested in that (proper) manner? I WILL, UNLESS YOU AND THE OTHER GUN WRITERS AND MANUFACTURERS DON'T START DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT! Just Remember What Happened to "Budweiser Beer" when they started acting "Irresponsibly"? Go Woke, Go Broke! If the "Sportsman", Manufactures, and Gun Writers Can't Do The Job - Then I Will!!! 🤑
@archeryhunter86-
@archeryhunter86- Жыл бұрын
I agree a 6.5 Creedmoor is not a good elk cartridge (would work in a pinch for a youth shooting under 200 yds with good shot placement). 1000 yards no way. Your math on the weight retention is flawed though. I highly doubt there would be only 30%weight retention at that range. The bullet would have so little energy by then it would likely be significantly more. Even if that math was correct it wouldn't be the same as a 22 LR either. The 6.5 would have much more energy when it hit the elk which is then when it would shed its bullet weight (INTO the elk). If you were somehow able to lob a 22 LR 1000 yds and hit an elk it would probably have so little energy left it would barely pierce the hide. That said still a terrible idea to use a 6.5 Creedmoor on elk at 1000 yards. Doesn't seem like good advice, especially coming from a guide.
@ronlowney4700
@ronlowney4700 Жыл бұрын
🤔 You are correct sir!
@poisonPpaully
@poisonPpaully 11 ай бұрын
Ok Karen while I agree that nobody should try an elk at 1000 yard with 6.5 cm the velocity would be so low that it would retain much more weight if not all weight There’s plenty of regulations and in my opinion too much silly regulations what we don’t need is uncle Sam in our business anymore
@ronlowney4700
@ronlowney4700 11 ай бұрын
What We Need To Do Is "Thin the Herd" of Stupid People! 🤪
@z987k
@z987k Жыл бұрын
166gr HH from a 30-06 at 3k fps, with staball 6.5, he's at 81kpsi. How about no.
@KurtisMiel-ys1md
@KurtisMiel-ys1md Жыл бұрын
All copper bullets suck I rather shoot a solid tungsten at something better yet all uranium haha LOL😂
@dontbetreadin4777
@dontbetreadin4777 Жыл бұрын
There are some great loads with copper projectiles that I will use as long as they're available. 5.56mm loads out of a suppressed 16.5" barrel drops anything from wild hogs, yotes, deer and anything in between. I've noticed I get far better performance down range with the Coopers and brass projectiles than anything else
@jmgates09
@jmgates09 Жыл бұрын
Adamantium bullets
@elgato9534
@elgato9534 Жыл бұрын
I am working on a 20mm cannon case necked down to .17 that shoots a 500 grain copper bullet @ 10,000 fps.
@tonydiesel3444
@tonydiesel3444 Жыл бұрын
Nope never will get that speed
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