Thanks for the interview, David. Hope I didn't botch your questions. 0:00 Intro 2:12 Are the cuts just scaremongering? 3:28 What is this going to mean for the CRT, boaters, and other users if you don't have the money? 5:10 Doesn't the Transport Act of 1968 compel the CRT to keep the waterways open? 7:53 Having known the possible loss in funding for a while, are there worst-case plans to close certain canals? 9:31 Have you made the best possible case for funding? 10:15 Given only 25% of funding comes from the government, should the focus be on generating revenue? 11:26 Ideas from viewers -- Misc funding ideas 14:08 Why not spend from the billion pound reserve? 16:22 Where do massive, unexpected costs come into play? 20:27 Should the restoration groups close down or stop with the threat of closures? 22:25 Was the 'Health and Wellbeing' rebranding the best angle to persuade the government of the canal's value? 27:20 Could you threaten the government with handing the canal management back to them? 28:36 What can users, boaters, anyone else do outside of writing a check to the CRT? 31:32 Outro

As someone who was born and raised in a business environment, I found Richard's answers to make perfect sense. Either increase revenue, or cut costs - the basis of any business.

Having lived in England,I loved the canals as a child. Fishing,walking,exploring. I have never forgot the smell. For everyday Britains the Canal is good for their life.

Has anyone thought about trying to get the canals designated a world heritage site? Money would come from UNESCO funding. The canals certainly did have a worldwide impact on trade. Just a thought.

Imagine if this discussion was about whether maintaining the M1 was a good idea, or any other motorway. Canals and Railway networks and our river networks are the arteries of the country.

These planned cuts in funding are going to see some of our canals being left unmaintained & unusuable. The CRT work hard as it is to raise funds so that we have all these lovely canals to enjoy, they are beautiful picture perfect & we are exceptionally lucky to have them, they are something to be proud of & the amount of people & animals that rely on them is incredible. Nothing comes for free & the miles & miles of canal waters that are accessable by boat must come at an incredible cost for all the maintenance & repairs. The dedication by the CRT is second to none & they love & care about what they do & it shows. I have a narrow boat & have used the canals before but for the past 7 years I have been moored on The Thames which I love dearly but the Thames is looked after by the Environment Agency who are government funded & quite frankly they are a disgrace, they sold off the river's dredgers so now that important part of the river's maintenance is a thing of the past & the silt levels are quite at a dangerous level now especially for swimmers & billions of litres of raw sewage have been pumped into the river in the past year, which they are every year but this year has been an exception, with the EA having full knowledge of this taking place & being paid by the water companies to do so which is hard to believe but a Thames Water spokesperson told me so in a phone call when I rang to lodge a complaint, in the end I had to get a consumer complaints governing body involved because things got so bad, the plants & greenery all along the water's edge turned black & died, dead fish were everywhere & there was toilet paper & used wet wipes littered all along the river bank's, even a poor swan passing by my boat had toilet paper stuck to it's feathers along it's back & looked a sorry state. Geese & ducks abandoned their nests & disappeared which is so sad. The EA do not maintain the trees or bushes or even any of the towpaths & it is all starting to look like an abandoned mess.The EA are not fit for purpose & are poles apart from the dedication you see from the CRT & the first class results their work produces. I still receive the wonderful CRT newsletter which I love to read, it's always full of positive & interesting story's & of planned events such as boat shows. I was more than happy to sign the recent petition they have running regarding the planned funding cuts & I also wrote to my local MP. I am outraged that the EA receive so much funding when they do very little to safeguard & maintain our National treasure, The Thames River while we have the CRT who are irreplacable & as a Nation we owe our thanks to & they are facing funding cuts!!, totally bonkers!!, talk about unfair. We all need to get behind the CRT & support them & help safeguard the future of our waterways.

We noticed that there are many derelict houses and cottages still seemingly owned by the CRT that could be renovated in a rolling programme , they could make excellent holiday let’s .

Go David! Proper journalism with clear direct questions and challenging follow ups. I wish journalists on TV worked like this especially with politicians. Extremely well done 👏

Well done David, a great probing interview. A simple QR code on every CRT sign (and God knows there's a lot of them) linking to a donation page might help increase their bloody awful ten year record for recieved donations. We'd vote for you to be next CRT CEO. 👍

Im not politicizing this comment - but it sure is refreshing to see someone in some level of power to give real answers and explanations. And respecting and answering davids - sometimes - sharp questions

Mr Parry gave an excellent interview and I felt he really understand the financial impact that CRT are under. In regard to the billion pound section he really showed his knowledge and understanding of financially managing the waterways. Thank you

As an Australian hoping to cruise the canals of England, Scotland, and Wales when I retire, I hope the current and future UK Governments are aware of the potential loss of tourism from cutting funding to the C&RT.

Outstanding piece of journalism. Outstanding interviewee. No bullshit questions. No bullshit answers. A solid base from which to try and change the Treasury’s mind. Excellent post. Thank you.

David: I just heard you point out the value of overseas visitors to British canal system and you're absolutely right! I live on the west Coast of the US and in May I brought a couple of friends over to England and we rented a canal boat from Shire Cruisers in Sowerby Bridge. We all had a great time thanks to Shire Cruisers and the people on the Calder. There is a lot of enthusiasm in the US for British canals. Keep well, Dave

Thanks David for these Professional interviews! Many Compliments!! They are Very Important! You are a vital link between the CRT and the general waterways user / supporter! And I think that Mr. Parry is Gentleman to sit for these interviews!! ❤

It seems anything to do with British culture and history is being choked out to oblivion in these modern times.

While this was an excellent interview David, well done, it's Richard's answers and the general demeanor of the CRT in general that put me off ever moving onto the canals. The CRT hides as it suits them, if it makes their lives easier they're a business, if you have a legal query they are the law, if you want answers they're a charity. If we compare them to the government, of any party, the CRT have a cushy life. No requirement to be honest, no requirement to turn over information, and no ability to be removed by those whose lives they affect. And now they have the nerve to request help in cementing their power? The Transport Act of 1968, and his answer, hits the nail on the head. The legal responsibility of the CRT, of which Richard is ultimately responsible, is to keep navigations open. By even floating the possibility of abdicating his primary legal responsibility should result in his immediate removal. He can talk about his ethical responsibility to not break in to the endowment, but if a single navigation is closed while it has a billion in the bank, then the organisation as a whole has fundamentally failed. You'd expect a family in hard times to spend every last penny feeding their children, not letting them starve so as not to risk their university fund. Presumably their favourite child is called "Crick", and all the others can starve... The answer mentioning ownership was intriguing, the Trust holds the canals in perpetuity? Much like a family home then? Tell me what's to stop a local council, particularly 'dead end' navigations like Erewash, Ashby, Chesterfield or Sheffield, being concerned by his rhetoric and the potential loss of local benefits and hitting their stretches with compulsory purchase orders? Think the current EA/CRT/Peel Ports licensing system is bad? We have no idea of how bad it'll be if Teflon Richard, who despite being in charge seems to take absolutely none of the blame, continues on this path. Is this the same Richard Parry who earned almost a million quid for less than a year's work at TfL?

The tourist value of the canal network is growing, especially here in the USA. Many of my friends plan on hiring canal boats for their next vacation.

Guess that means the canals are going to be merely drawings in a museum from now on. This is the Canal's version of the Beeching Cuts!!!!

Good for Richard Parry for agreeing to an interview! He seems a straightforward man, which I think is good. Presumably David had free choice of questions? As usual David was a good interviewer. PS. I'm a liveaboard boater so CRT are an important part of my life.

Thanks for the video. National infrastructure, including the canals and associated reservoirs, is a national responsibility. This responsibility sits with the government of the day - if a canal closes or a dam collapses, a Minister needs to lead, to be accountable. This cannot be passed on, however desperate the CEO of the charity is to keep his job. Having seen the awful state of the canals where I grew up (Lower Peak Forest), I have no faith in the CRT to prevent a return to those days. Sadly, the only influence left to the CRT is a high profile resignation and handing back responsibility to the Government. Based on this interview, the loss of their CEO won't be a big deal.

It should come as no surprise that Richard Parry knows what he is doing. It is gratifying to find that he has the patience to give sensible responses to viewers' observations and suggestions, which he is clearly already aware of.

A good interview. I thought some of the questioning was perhaps a little antagonistic early on, particularly where he was giving full and frank answers. A style usually reserved for politicians offering weasel words. Appreciate some of the questions were from viewers. I hope CRT are able to shift government policy on this.

The canal network is an extraordinary heritage. I'm a full-time boater and every time I move I learn something new about the rural (usually) and urban environment I move through. As I move along there are miles and miles of interest passing me. Yet there are also miles and miles of little to no (usually no) explanation of what there is to see, whether archaeological history, industrial history, social history, or natural history. For example where are the signs/boards near Beeston referring to the magnificent castle, the WWII bunkers, the Iron Lock, and so on? There are so many collaborations possible to enrich the experience of the waterways. It's not my job to but I'm certain I could list tens if not hundreds of such potential collaborations. Where's the creativity in C&RT?

Complex problems ahead when funding is reduced. Fees will be going up in the long term. Well done to shine the light David.

A fine example of counting the cost but not the value.

David, a well-done piece, and you were in full journalist mode. I appreciate that he sat down with you, and was able to respond to you for nearly a half hour. Clearly, he has a grasp of his organization. He did speak on the economic impact, which was good to hear. I would think that a full up economic impact study may be money well spent, not only to provide to government, but to other potential funders, to include local government. It would seem to follow that some level of local/CRT partnership would be beneficial to all. Proper economic impact data may help facilitate/foster local partnerships.

Stick a QR code on each lock and have it direct to a donations page. Every little helps and volunteer lock operatives can direct those interested in "giving them something for they're help" to. Great interview as becoming used to David 😊

The gentleman has been interviewed before on this channel. He is well spoken and listens well. I think he deserves some respect for sure.

The sad thing is, the government sounds like it does not understand the beneficial impact the canals provide. They mitigate flooding and temper the local climate, which come in handy when your at the beginning of global weather change.

Note before commenting! Whilst I fully appreciate the funding was a political decision, this channel is a politics-free zone and that includes the comments. Therefore comments that are largely just slagging off the government (or the opposition), having a rant, or straying off-topic etc (immigrants / Brexit etc) will be removed. If, however, you want to make a sensible, rational, on-topic comment about the CRT's financing problems then please do. Thanks.

Great interview David. Im a boater and appreciate the facilities CRT provide as well as their challenges in balancing the books, but when I read that this guy is paid with bonuses around £215, 000 a year (and no doubt other senior executives wont be far behind) steam comes out of my ears. Many live aboard boaters struggles to pay the annual licence fee and yet will no doubt see big licence fee hikes. They wont have a £1 billion endowment to draw upon to help finance the extra costs like CRT has either. Maybe this chap will agree to a drop in his collosal salary to show solidarity with those who will struggle as licence fees go up. I also hope to see pigs fly !

The canals are a crucial part of UK life...they actually need so much more expansion and care taken with them. The money invested should be maintained in at least current levels of funding. But reality is, that over a 10 year upcoming period, more money should be invested.

It is interesting that local groups can find the millions needed to restore a stretch of canal, but not the money to maintain it once it is open. Maybe we need local groups to take responsibility for the existing network in their area as part of restoration plans. Similar to what the Wildlife Trusts do for conservation areas.

David, I appreciate you mentioning your viewership based outside the UK. It IS because of Vloggers like yourself, who promote the Cut, that I found how I'll spend much of the rest of my life: Cruising the Cut... By 2025 I plan on investing nearly $500,000.00 into the UK economy, via vessel construction, and annual expenses like Canal licenses, mooring fee, boat insurance, etc, etc. And I do plan on contributing to the CRT's 'Keep Canals Alive' fund. Keep up the good work. Thanks for reading....Cheerio!

Great video David. We have already pestered our MP on this. Love that you are pushing it as well.

Leave the endowment alone. It gives £50 million per year every year. Over 10 years, that adds up to £500 million. And that return will continue. Drawing down on the capital gives you money once only then it is gone. Very bad idea. One thing though - it is inevitable that license costs will increase.

The last 5 years funding of British Waterways was spent on 20 new marinas that was apparently an investment for the future. The canals fell into decline. BWM becomes a separate entity. The marinas were sold off and re-leased by BWM ( British waterways marinas ) when the trust took over ! . Then the trust tell us just give us a few years to organise ourselves . The canals fell into further decline. New vehicles came, new work boats, new logo and new signs . Contractors were hired and managers became many and salaries rose ... The canals fell into more decline .. Repairs are repaired by unqualified repairmen / women who have no experience of locks.. I could go on .... 230 grand a year Mr Parry is a good wage for a CEO. Do the 6 Regional managers earning 170 grand a year need a pa earning 90 to 110 grand a year ? Do them regional managers need area mangers on 110 grand a year and do we need area managers at all, or mooring managers on 60 grand and license enforcement managers on 80 grand a year ? All the other managers and so on. When you add the cost of venues on this with the cost of team building adventures . The cost of vans sat idling down country lanes , The cost of gate ramming instead of using sluices, The cost of not enforcing the terms and conditions of our boat licenses and just enforcing overstayers and non payers ! The canals even more in decline .. I wish it wasn't all quite so negative but really it is and it needs great change in its very foundations !

Mr Parry's annual income for 2022 was £214,000 ( plus all his mates wages etc)... The prime minister of UK earnt £160,000. And CRT want people to donate money or volunteer their labour..

I visited England recently and walked 70 miles along the Grand Union and Avon and Kennet canals with the Ridgeway Trail in between. I had a wonderful time. The canals are beautiful. This video inspired me to donate £15 to the CRT. Thank you.

Having worked for a charity, I know the CEO salary level is an often used, but rarely understood argument. I don't think anybody who gives to a charity, wouldn't rather 100% of their contribution go towards front line expenditure. However, the days of a charity being run by retirees, to give them something to do on a regular basis are long gone. Even a charity with 100% volunteers, has to be run like a business, just to comply with the raising and spending of funds. Once you employ people, you need payroll and HR. The bookkeeping becomes more involved and becomes a daily job, instead of jotting a few numbers down at the end of the month. Overheads increase, such as office space, insurance, utilities, computers, copiers, etc, etc.. There is also much more work to do around compliance and Charity Commission rules and regulations. The list of responsibilities is almost endless, and generally speaking, getting anyone to take on those responsibilities for free is impossible. With such a large organisation to manage too, and volunteers having no obligation to turn up for work, the slightest issue could result in the workforce walking out one day and not coming back. So, the charity pays salaries in return for some security, ensuring most people will be working on any given day. Ultimately - and I do agree that many CEOs are paid well above what should be necessary - the CEO gets the big bucks because the buck stops with them. Also, as charities have had to become more professionally run, the sector has had to look to employing experienced people from the private and public sectors. The only way you'll attract people of the necessary calibre, is to offer at least similar benefits as they would receive or have been receiving elsewhere. This information and thought process, probably won't change the mind of anyone who doesn't like the idea of their fees and donations contributing towards someone's salary, and that's everyone's right. However, expecting charities to be run entirely by well intentioned senior citizens for free, is really pie in the sky wishful thinking.

My local canal is effectively just an open sewer due to the local water authority.there is SO much wrong with this country that any Government isn’t going to be sympathetic to maintaining Canals which tbf are pretty low on the to do list for any Government.

I used to work at the company when it was British Waterways in the 90s to early 2000s. So much work was done to secure funding and eliminate maintenance backlog. It's such a shame to see the canals have a lack of funding and maintenance go down. Plus the government don't remember that it is saving housing costs for those that choose to live in the canal who might otherwise have to get housing help saving them lots of money. So they should be helping to provide funding to help maintain it.

Really enjoyed this interview. I've visited the UK 3 times in the last 10 years. Much time has been spent visiting canals and walking along towpaths. Finding new (to us) pubs along canals is a treat! Even in Scotland, a week in Fort William and a trip to the Falkirk Wheel and The Kelpies were highlights of our visits and kept us close to canals. Hatton Locks is another favorite place to visit along with the Monmouthshire and Brecon Canal!

Glad you are helping protect the canals with your channel.

I'm very impressed with the way you interviewed him.

Thank you David. A very well laid out informative interview. I just find it hard to believe that in the future and if nothing changes then we could lose quite a bit of the waterways. I always class the British Canals as a living museum and a very important part of our industrial heritage. Plus the fact that there are so many waterway vlogers this has also put the UK Canal's out to a much wider audience from around the world, who i believe are quite envious of our canal system. Hopefully over the next Ten years, a solution that would be agreeable with everyone can be achieved. Once again David, yet another great useful and informative vlog. Cheers Pal.. 🥂🤗

Richard Perry gave a great interview without any BS. I love how all the internet 'tin foil' hattery can be swept away by an intellectual, calm talker, who has a very good knowledge of the subject. Even watching 30 minutes saw a family go for a walk, a couple off to the pub, dog walkers, runners all using the Canal. Nice interview David.

Great interviewing David, very entertaining. Richard is a very eloquent and focussed chap with clear passion for his role and the network. Delightful stuff👏👌

So back in the day you used to have lock keepers and linesman who used to walk their stretch of the canal if they could fix a problem they would if not it would be repaired within a very short time because it needed to be fixed... Nowadays you get to press one and then whatever number you need between 1 and 5 or whatever and then they will report it to the local team there is a hell of a lot of administration going on.....

as a pair of boaters who have just jumped from a normal cruising licence,to a floating traders license,i will watch how this goes, with concern and deep interest.

They are a national treasure.

Well-done. V informative. As an overseas follower, I think you're rt about leveraging the CRT into British Tourism conversations. ❤

Idk how I missed this but one of your best videos with very pressing questions. Tks

My father was driver on the LMS railway and a keen fresh water fisherman. After WW2 he and other angling club members would go out in all weather to dredge and clean up the tow paths of local canals. This was before the leisure boating fraternity got going.

Surely damage to bridges should be part of any claim made to an insurance company by the vehicle involved. The same applies to cars in locks etc. The damage is caused by external, non canal users so why should CRT have to foot the bill. I also find it difficult to accept that CRT should be responsible for reservoirs - surely they should be under the pervue of the water authorities and their massive profits. Not going to be a massive amount clawed back but every little helps.

Part of the funding solution is walking in the background of your video. In every town or city that canals pass through, there are parks and trails in the form of tow paths that would not be there if not for the canals and are probably used primarily by local residents and tourist that might never set foot on a Narrowboat. The communities could be contributing to the cost of running and maintaining their canals in the form of access fees if you live on the canal, fishing permits, volunteer organizations to help keep the canals clean and silt free and maintenance on locks, pumps and reservoirs.

I very much liked the idea of companies large and small sponsoring locks and flights of locks. That would surely be something that could be pursued. Interesting programme David. And all power to the CRT.

What a great interview. Thank you both of you.

An excellent video David. That you for asking the tough questions and good on Richard for taking a seat with you to be hearing and answering them. Challenging years ahead. Much thanks to CRT for a lot of work. I am another of those who so desire to cruse the cut after seeing so many of your and others videos. It's gone from something that I had no idea existed, to a must see & do if I ever make that jump across the pond ! Best wishes on Britain maintaining the canals and expanding where you can.

what an interview!david, you are an interviewer the likes we have not seen on tv for a long time.asking informative questions and letting the interviewee give an answer!you could /should get a job on a news channel .gb news comes to mind.well done and thank you from nz soon returning home to uk and the cut.

Well done sir. Straight over the plate and no soft pitches. A true pleasure to watch!

If they'd skip buying one single fighter jet or a couple of tanks, they could cover that entire funding cut, but there are two things politicians of any party, by and larger, never will cut - military spending or their own salaries & budgets. They always find something that benefit the citizens to cut. Another idea (that they might already be doing) is charge rent to the communications companies to run a buried fiber optic line under a towpath.

A really thorough and interesting interview thank you David...

I think we collectively need to think about why we have governments and governing bodies. Too often we are told to stomach things getting worse for the majority, when does that end? I love my local Canal, it's hugely enriching, and relatively low cost in the scheme of things.

Here’s an idea, let’s make the water ways as important as Buckingham palace and many other touristic attractions in England

Great interview. Good to see folks really pushed to truly answer the hard questions!

excellent initiative of David to interview Richard. Thanks.

Love the tough questions, impressed by the hard answers. It’s never simple

Well done David you had that guy on the back foot with your honest but necessary questions

Hopefully a change of government will restore the grant to the CRT. Canals are a fantastic resource for everyone to enjoy and improve the quality of all our lives.

What a powerful and informative video! WOW! I am cheering you on from Denver, hoping you can help get this sorted and properly funded for the future. Again - NICE WORK! Very, very impressive!

Well done David... you haven't lost your journalistic touch. Nice to see Hatton (on the Hill) is same as it was few years ago. Back in the early 70s that section (that I used to cycle along many times) was in a poor way. Let's hope it doesn't revert to that level in a decade or two.

You are an excellent interviewer. Your questions are pointed and insightful, and certainly are not softball questions.

It’s a very difficult subject…. As boaters we are all well aware how the canals are not maintained as we boaters would like, and that we also feel we pay our share. But as your introduction states, the canals are a great historic and current attraction to many. I used to fund raise for the CRT and I can tell you it’s very difficult to get people to part with their money to “use” a facility that they view as entitled to for free. If a portion of council tax went onto supporting the canals in their area I personally would be happy to pay . Let’s keep fingers crossed that our fantastic canals can stay open and appreciated by people and governments for years to come…

Great interview. The point about new revenue streams was interesting. I've often thought the CRT should offer training. Like helmsman courses, lock operation, radio, boat maintenance etc. Open up more of the network to canal side mooring, proper good quality mooring and lots of it, that you could book for a charge stay longer than two weeks. Essentially turn parts of the system into a large marina's where you can come and go as you please, bit like motorway services.

Being a regular KZfaq watcher of various liveaboards - and a lover of narrowboat cruising - I have noticed the vast increase of boaters since Covid first hit us in 2020; both new owners and holidaymakers. Add an increase in cruiser boats which seem to think that the 'rules of the waterways' don't apply to them and narrowboaters who only open one half of the lock (which means bumping the gate that hasn't been opened thereby shortening the period between a costly renewal). All these things add up and no Organisation can cover 2,000 miles of waterways and ensure that all is well; or plan their annual spending and improvements in advance.

Thank you David for bringing this to our attention in such a clear and concise way. Please be assured I have already used the CRT website tool to contact my MP. Once again many thanks.😊

This man has compelling explanations, I think they are well served with him steering the CRT.

David: that was a brilliant interview with the gentleman from The Canal and River Trust. The canals are very important to all who use them, so they should be taken care off and kept open. Having said that I live across the pond, so all I can do is to message the CRT. Thank you for informing us about the financial situation of the CRT.

The body language and hand gestures says it all for me. I get what he is saying and clearly he hopes he is saying what people want to hear, but there is clearly some deeper digging to be done. I really think your questions were very relevant but there are still so many "if's but's and wherefores" and the devil is in the details. This lovely chap is a very cool and well schooled politician and if I was a waterways leisurist, I would be very worried.

Thanks David for your commitment and for the challenging questions that saw the CRT ceo working hard to answer 😅 .

Probably one of the best interviews I've seen in a long time. Tough questions, but also honest answers. Fantastic job!

Perhaps the CRT should have mentioned that dredging the Grand Union would take 15 minutes off the journey from Birmingham to London!

Bravo David. You asked all the hard questions. I am in the u.s. and can not holiday in the uk but watch all the vlogers. You being the godfather of the waterways, i appreciate your tenacity and unwavering loyalty to the canals. Looking forward to the next interview. Thank you and God bless !

Well its a good thing to hear communication, and a lesson in facilities management and financial juggling. Thanks.

Thank you!!!

David, your approach to journalism is of the highest quality. 👏 This is sorely missing from so many media outlets these days.

Sad, but reflects today everywhere. Great interview about it.

Thanks David, it’s been an eye opener for me. I’ve often daydreamed about groups of boaters being given the opportunity to maintain certain stretches. Simple things to keep overall maintenance costs down for the CRT. Things like weed & debris removal. Simple garden maintenance for the towpath grass/shrubs ect. As an incentive- maybe a small reduction in annual license fee.

I’m coming from the US to do narrow boating in September because of your KZfaq.

Interesting interview, thought ur CRT man spoke really well answering all the questions really well.... Take note Politicians..

As an avid viewer from the US, I greatly appreciate the time you spent aboard your narrowboat. The travels you filmed along the way. The effort you spent narrating where you were going, and researching the great history behind the places you see. It's hard for civilization not to tear down historic travel ways, to make room for faster forms of travel and activities. Your videos have shown the world there is a significant reason to make use of the water ways, for more than getting from point A to B. It's understandable how financing can change depending on who's making decisions. As it's understandable, maybe not everyone's idea of a 60 or 70 foot long boat, might not be a narrowboat. But more like something found in clear blue salt water. I wasn't aware so many of your viewers were from outside the UK, that's just awesome! Really. I'm happy to be one of them. Let's face it though, someone from the US may never be able to appreciate your roads. But having the ability to travel your country more slowly, and from another perspective, will bring travers. Smart business keeps money where the travers go.

Amazing for you to bring so much attention to this, I'm from Worcestershire, and wanted to get on narrowboats in the next year or two. This has scared me a little, even though im confident my local and Birmingham canals will be fine, its the right of freedom id be doing it for and if they start closing canals, thats taken away

Excellent interview.

Maintenance should not be counted as an investment.... Things like this should always have a maintenance budget.

Excellent and fascinating. Learnt a lot, thank you both.

Timely and good informative video spelling out exactly what has happened. Thankyou.nb. Lucy Ann. Mark

Sounds like the Govt has completely forgotten that the canal systems across the UK contain water, which in a Climate Change Situation with so many periods of increased heavy rain periods play an important role in managing the environment with "sudden appearance" of increased water flows ie flooding management.... Imagine the damage should the canals not be present in their functioning state as such waterways!

A really good interview. Very informative. Hopefully some of the financial decision makers will see it and gain a better understanding of the Canal Trusts needs.