In history Dec 25 is a pagan holiday and to control the evil and sin the church declared it as the birth of Jesus. Saint Nicholas is a man who gave of himself to represent the giving to Christ. It is not up to a building to teach this it is up to the head of your house to teach this. Most people do not study the truth they study what they have heard.

@@aspieangel1988 how was it revealed to you omg. Plz dont say you had a godly vision cuz its one step to a loony house

Please consider that Dec 25 is the birth of the sun god. My eyes began to be opened when a friend of mine explained how in Iran they celebrate the birth of Mirthra on Dec. 25th. There are many names for the sun god around the world, to commemorate the birth of the sun when the days started to be longer. How does God feel about us humans putting his birthday on another god's birthday? Well, we can know what God is thinking when we read the Bible. In the Old Testament God told the Israelites when they take over the land he was giving them to not worship Him the way the pagans worship their gods. Don't use pagan altars to worship Him. Don't do any of the pagan traditions to worship Him. In Ezekiel God showed how the priests were performing pagan rituals in God's temple. This was true evil. Not trying to condemn, here. Just please think about this. Do you really believe that men 'changed the Bible' so so that mixing the profane and the Holy is acceptable to God? Prayers. @@aspieangel1988

​@@EughhBrothereughh Pardon? So prayer is insane? You've never heard the Lord? You've in deep trouble buddy. Repent and stop spreading lies.

People can have visions and not be looney. Although they need discernment with that.

Same conviction sis😢❤

Amen sister, this is why we traded xmas and easter for Feast of Tabernacles and Passover! Abba has his 7 appointed Feast days for us to enjoy!! He asked us to remember them forever...and they are such a joy!

Exactly what happened to me 2 yrs ago. Started reading my Bible and no longer wanted to celebrate any of the pagan holidays

Same conviction thanks for sharing. Mathew 13: 16 and 17.

Jeremiah 10 is on point period 🙌🏽

Yeshua warned us about God wanting us to worship him in Spirit and truth, he also warned us about false prophets, Apostles and teachers that teach false doctrines, His true Apostles warned us too about the doctrines of demons, well God the father and Yeshua warned us against taking part in pagan practices and rituals , that the pagans do to please their gods . The Lord says that they are an abomination to Him! Apostle Peter say that false gods are demons! That's why we need to take heed to the warnings of our Lord Yeshua Mashiach (Jesus Christ) And his Apostles and really study his word because also false doctrines of demons have got into the Church and it is spreading like wildfire, word of faith movement, NAR movement are teaching New Age teachings and putting a Jesus sticker over it! They have another Jesus, another Gospel and another spirit and the real Jesus, Gospel and holy spirit of the bible, its heartbreaking 💔 🙏 study like the bereans did and they even searched the scriptures daily to see what Apostle Paul was saying was so , an Apostle apointed by Christ himself, pray humbley and earnestly, pray for those that have fallen away from the truth that they once believed, Yeshua and his Apostles warned us to not be decieved. There is so much deception in the Church now and the Lord said it would get worse before his return God bless you 🙏

I am so happy to hear of not only your conviction but obedience to the Lord. I am also sorry that you are alone in this. She did a wonderful job speaking through the idolatry but the second part is that we do know now (as the disciples did for the first 300 years after Yeshua was resurrected) that Jesus/Yeshua was born during the feast of tabernacles. John says that the word became flesh and tabernacled among us. We also know that Jesus was born during the fall which is exactly when he was born. There are ALOT of Christian’s who now know and actually celebrate this feast that falls usually end of September or beginning of October. It’s a wonderful time of year where we go and camp out for a week and celebrate through word and worship and fellowship with one another. If you’d like to learn more I really like David Pawsons sermons on it or the best is Michael Rood who has sermons on KZfaq or wrote the chronological gospels which will open your mind to so much. If you have any questions let me know and again, god bless you for following God when you are a bit alone in this. I’m happy to speak with you or answer any questions.

I've been asking lots of questions too and this year I donated all things Christmas. This morning, coming home from church on Christmas Eve, my husband was asking when are we supposed to celebrate Jesus' birthday if not the 25th of Dec. I know the Bible doesn't give us a clue but like I heard someone say the other day on a video, Israel in late December is much too cold for the shepherds to have sheep out in the field at night so they don't think it was Dec. either. We never really did the presents anyway so that's no big deal cause we buy gifts all thru the year for each other and other people. I don't really have anyone to talk with about all this cause the few people I mentioned it to, looked at me like I had 2 heads or something! Yes, it's a pagan tradition that we and many generations before us just followed along with and never questioned it.

I'm sorry if I didn't make myself clear. No, it's not a sin to celebrate Jesus birth or any day for that matter. And we do give gifts to others all thru the year and a few kids of friends at Christmas. We just don't go overboard with all the celebrating like in the past. I try to spend my days focusing on Jesus and what He wants from me. That's to serve others also and I do that when I see a need. @@aspieangel1988

Amen I agree that it's a reason why for hundreds of years people observed this holiday without a question but now more of us who aren't Jehovah's witness , as they used to be the only ones that didn't celebrate, are waing up to this. God showed me it broke his heart because it was a pagan holiday that I was observing and that means that a demon so called god instructed someone of specific way to worship that diety on that day and clearly that demon ibstruxted that whole civilizatiob of what to do and was worshipped in multiple places becaee its a holiday observed world wide. It's like doing yoga if you think about it. It's a specific set of instructions given to observe a particular diety and God isn't happy about that.

I think the Father was giving my husband and I grace with a gradual waking up. We were together 5 years before saved (a week apart) and we never had a great Christmas as a family until then. But we did love that first Christmas a ton - ignorance is bliss. 😂 But over the past 6 years we became more and more uncomfortable with it, simultaneously learning how much isn't related at all to Jesus. This last year I learned Jesus was most likely born during Sukkot so we tried to celebrate then, in a way that doesn't have any Paegan junk we know of. An EXTRA celebration of his days here as a human for us. But it was a very small celebration. We already were trying to have our first Sukkot and had other chaos. This is our first year not having a "Christmas". We are blessed out children don't care about Santa etc. I did as a child and was hurt when I learned the truth. Then as an adult I realized how super creepy it is. Lol Our first child has a birthday in late DEC and we do plan to still celebrate. So it'll be nice not to have back-to-back craziness. 😂 Also it's not nearly as big as Passover for us. And we DO celebrate like crazy, we talk the sacrifices and the solemnness that I do think is real, then the end is the celebration of Jesus' conquering death. I have a piñata of the tomb TBH. 😅 I don't see a reason not to. We put stickers and stuff like that in it. And we do presents. Talking about how none of it compares to the real gift of eternal life with Jesus. ❤

This is so wonderful to hear and praying Yehovah blesses you for also celebrating Sukkot. I know there are groups who go out camping for a week with kids and they spend the time in nature singing, worshiping, fellowship. Maybe try that!

In Leviticus 23 chapters 1 thru 44 in your Bible, you will find those Holy Days. It's funny as a kid to adult, I have no recollection of any priest or pastor speaking of these Holydays.

Holy Days were done away with. The New Testament says to hold no day above another. Every day belongs to the Lord.

Celebrating Hannakuh is going backward. We're not supposed to celebrate Jewish holidays and traditions. One is a Jew not on the inside through birth or circumcision of the flesh. One is a Jew on the inside by faith and circumcision of the heart. But we are to put away traditions the Jews held to. We are a new creation in Christ.

I have just not wanted to deal with our decor. If I donate it it might help people spend less on new Halloween/Christmas/Easter stuff and that makes me feel good, but in honest I have to recognize I don't think it'll stop manufacturing of these new items, and won't help people who are poor/budgeting to spend any money on these products at a thrift store either. So it's enabling these celebrations unless we trash it! Your comment helped trigger my mind into realization. 😅 Thank you!

I do the same, I dont celebrate. I haven't known anybody who doesn't do it. 😊 Nice to meet you. ❤

Birthdays aren’t pagan

@jenniferr6967 what are the 2 birthday celebrations mentioned in the Bible? Hint: both celebrations included someone losing their head.

​@@jenniferr6967Wishing on a candle is absolutely pagan. What are you wishing to?

Heidi has a lot of good info for the holy days. ❤ I also like Taking Back The Rainbow w/ Rabbi Schneider. He's Messianic - Jewish in culture etc but his faith is Christian. He has good info about the holy days. I enjoy the season as another that the Lord gave us. I believe he gave it to us for a time of coziness and taking the rest we can get. We have a birthday in our family so we will do that- and perhaps talk on Jan 1 about Mary's conception and what that means for having faith, Jesus was a human right when conceived etc. Since Jan 1 would be pretty likely if Jesus was born during Sukkot. But we try to keep major celebration to the holy days. We do do presents during Sukkot; and even more so during the end of Passover for the Resurrection. 🌈✨🕊️🌿 For Sukkot we made a fort in the living room but I'd love to do a full on Sukkah next year if we aren't participating with others. Instead of halloween we just did a very subtle day learning about the Reformation and Martin Luther. Had some fun as a family with cookies and watching movies. It was our first not going out, the costumes etc. I asked my kids if they even wanted costumes for just in general play-pretend or to DIY fun outfits, we didn't but it sprung on me we could do that anytime!

Historical evidence shows that Dec. 25th began to be associated with paganism at the celebration for the birth of Sol Invictus which only started in 274AD with Aurelian. The Christians were already celebrating Christmas on Dec. 25th long before this. William J. Tighe, professor of history stated: "The pagan festival of the "Birth of the unconquered Sun" instituted by the Roman Emporer Aurelian on December 25th 274 was almost certainly an attempt to create a pagan alternative to a date that was ALREADY of some significance to Roman Christians. Thus the "Pagan origins of Christmas" is a myth without historical substance." Aurelian saw Christianity still firm even after long persecution, so he tried another way to fight it. We have many historical records regarding Christian Christmas celebration on Dec. 25th long before 274AD. Here are some examples: 1.Hippolytus in: Commentary on Daniel(204AD). 2. Abba Demitrius in :The Coptic Didoscalia Apostolorum(189AD). 3.Irenaeus in:Adversus Haereses(180AD). 4. Telesporus in: Liber Pontifical is(126AD). 5. Records in: Apostolic Constitution (70AD). Around 204, St. Hippolytus of Rome wrote that “the first advent of our Lord in the flesh, when he was born in Bethlehem, was eight days before the Kalends of January, the fourth day [i.e., Wednesday], while Augustus was in his forty-second year” (i.e., 3 or 2 B.C.) (Commentary on Daniel 4:23:3). The Kalends was the first day of the month, and eight days before January 1 is December 25. This is the earliest record we have of Jesus’ birth being December 25. It precedes by seventy years the time the Emperor Aurelian made Sol Invictus a Roman cult, and it precedes by 150 years the earliest claimed reference to Sol Invictus being celebrated on December 25-that claim being based on the Chronography of A.D. 354. Part 12 of the Chronography, which is a calendar of the commemoration of martyrs, lists the following: “Eight days before the Kalends of January: Birth of Christ in Bethlehem of Judea. In 386, St. John Chrysostom preached a homily on December 20-the memorial of St. Philogonius-in which he noted that “the day of Christ’s birth in the flesh” is about to arrive in “a period of five days,” or on December 25 (On the Incomprehensible Nature of God 6:23, 30). Finally, around 408, St. Augustine writes that “according to tradition he [Jesus] was born on December 25” (The Trinity 4:5). touchstonemag.com/archives/article.php?id=16-10-012-v catholicstraightanswers.com/jesus-really-born-december-25/ www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-topics/new-testament/december-25th-and-christmas/ www.patheos.com/blogs/davearmstrong/2021/12/hippolytus-early-3rd-c-a-december-25th-christmas.html christmasdecember25.wordpress.com/2015/04/10/apostolic-constitution-70-ad-christmas-fell-on-december-25/ www.neverthirsty.org/bible-qa/qa-archives/question/was-jesus-born-september-or-december-25-zacharias-john-baptist/ www.neverthirsty.org/bible-qa/qa-archives/question/was-jesus-born-on-december-25/ Also some say Christ fulfilled Sukkot by being born in Sukkot because of John 1:14(the word "dwelt" in Greek is "tabernacled"), well Chanukkah often falls over Dec. 25th and is known as a winter Sukkot. But...because we have the Apocrypha (old Jewish writings including history though not Scripture) we have Maccabees 1 & 2. In there it's noted that Chanukkah (which often encapulses Dec. 25 in it's 8 day duration)was considered a "winter Sukkot": orami.org/chanukah-as-a-second-sukkot/ www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/2-Maccabees-Chapter-1/ www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/2829847/jewish/The-Chanukah-Sukkot-Connection.htm According to Pope Benedict XVI, the first person to clearly assign Christmas to its current feast day was St. Hippolytus of Rome.5 In his Commentary on Dan­iel, which was written c. 204 a.d., St. Hippolytus wrote: “For the first advent of our Lord in the flesh, when he was born in Bethlehem, was December 25th, a Wednesday, while Augustus was in his forty-second year, but from Adam, five thousand and five hundred years.”6 Writing roughly 150 years before any known records which designate December 25th as Natalis Invicti, Hippolytus gives no mention of the Roman feast. insidethevatican.com/magazine/lead-story/the-25th-of-december-pagan-feast-or-patristic-tradition/ www.proclaimanddefend.org/2022/12/23/why-december-25/ The Dec.25th Kislev 25th connection: israelmyglory.org/article/why-do-we-celebrate-christmas-on-december-25th/

It's always been about worshipping something else. It's a pagan holiday, no matter how much we sing Christian Christmas music and pretend like it's biblical.

How do you celebrate Christmas? Like what goes into making it old fashioned and modest?

@ayjenso9435 I have a very slow, quiet, intentional Christmas. We have our inlaws for dinner on Christmas day for a few hours then in the evening time we play board games. Presents are not the focus, I'm not bothered about presents. It's about slow quiet intentional time with your loved ones. I do put up a tree & I decorate with Holly and ivy from our land. We have a farm. Christmas is about what you personally what you make it. I personally don't like the commercialism, showiness & keeping up appearances, I don't live my life like that throughout the year & I certainly don't do it at Christmas. It personally wouldn't make me happ, I know many people like to go all out but for me personally, it's not what I or my loved ones are about. And I have the best Christmas & it is meaningful, slow and quiet - just like the birth of Jesus.

@@QuietlyContemplating as a Christian I believe the whole Bible is truth. Reading through the scriptures God has revealed Jesus in the Biblical Feast! Actually Jesus celebrated some of them as well 😃 As I stated I am beginning my journey in this direction & learning more each day as I continue to study the Bible. I believe the Lord is leading me in this direction.

I agree

That's not how it works. I can have it in my heart not to do evil by reading horoscopes but regardless, it means what it means. I can give it a meaning... but it already has one that opposes God. Once God realizes I KNOW what it means and was informed, he will no longer wink at my ignorance. God does not like when we are blissfully ignorant.

@@doll.ov.poetrii4682amen ❤❤❤ finally someone understands what I’ve been saying

@@doll.ov.poetrii4682 Exactly, thank you.

Here's some resources! Thank you! 🥰 kzfaq.info/sun/PLXtO3I3A_NfV1eC7khN9IZpy7l-h8Dl3R

​@@HeavenlyMindedHomeThank you!🤗

I agree it's a very touchy topic to share with others who "claim to be Christians". It's as if you denied your faith in Christ Jesus. I have to let people know that I am still a believer of Christ Jesus. I simply want to be holy. My definition of holy: what the Bible says yes to. I say yes to and vice versa.

@@irisdavis3680 thank you! We've been here for 3 weeks now and to my surprise the host family that we are from and their extended family do not worship Christmas. In fact, i havent been around a group of faithful, and uplifting Christians (in a REAL sacraficial way) in I dont know how long! What we had leaving the states was churchianity. I am so convicted that i was even a part of that!! First, unbeknownst to us, this family gave up their finished home and started to build another cabana to live in with their kids, because they believed that God said to help us come down here. They give of what they dont have themselves out of obedience. They give up of their comforts to serve others. Their countenance is just pure joy in the Lord. Everything is "Dios primero!" (God first!) They do not have all of the things that we think we need back home and they truly live! Honestly I can go on and on, and I hate to be harsh, but what I've experienced in churchianity back home is detestable now to me. I don't even know how to explain the contrast. But believe me we need to step out of that Matrix and it doesn't mean that you have to leave the country but it does mean you need to get out of that system and really fall to the ground on our faces before the Lord in repentance.🥺

@@BialyTribeAdventures Amen, sometimes coming out from among them means staying where you are and standing on your convictions no matter what comes❣️🙏🏻

Since you're a Bible teacher... Do you teach Christ died on the cross for everyone, or do you limit His death for only a small portion of the population?

@@naturematt4340 John 3:16 loved the world! Everyone

@@TheHBMINISTRIES Perfect answer 👍! I will check out your channel. Did you know Heavenly Minded Home's channel teaches the opposite of what you just answered?

@@naturematt4340really? Wow. I had a feeling she leaned that way but Calvinism?

@@SongofBeauty Yep. She is a hard-core 5 point Calvinist. What's worse is she's stealth about it and misleading many.

Im from uk we have advent so the last few years ive stopped most Christmas practices except the advent wreath which i light the candles and say the preyers .but i keep far from the commercial Christmas santa claus and all that .

LOVE your post, thank you.

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This is so wonderful to hear of your obedience! Have you heard of the feast of tabernacles? We now know (what the disciples already knew) that Jesus was born during the Feast of Tabernacles “the word became flesh and tabernacled among us.” Which is a wonderful celebration in the fall.

Exactly true, thank you

I know Xmas is not a holy day. I have never celebrated Xmas and never will. I celebrate the Lord's feast days.

There are 7 in all and some are are shadows of what came to pass but their are still some that have not passed yet. Day of trumpets is his return and In scripture it does say to remember Passover and what he did for us on the cross. Sukkot will also still be celebrated in the millennium. None of these save us but they are all beautiful because in each of them it gives the full gospel message. The new covenant did not do away with the law what it did do away with was death by the law. We could not keep the law perfectly so Christ shed is blood to pay for us so one day we could spend eternity with him. The law is written on our hearts and everyone has it. Ray comfort an evangelist is able to give the gospel and reach many by bringing up the 10 commandments. Even those who believe nothing in God are convicted by these because they are written on every ones heart.

If you are born again believe you are spiritual Israel. I do not believe in any denominations. All denominations have broken off from the Catholic church in some way. All I know is it does not matter what others think but it matters about what the Lord thinks and he has convicted me in these areas.

I do however believe some of the preterist stance, 70AD. Like I had said in one of my replies I know some have already been fulfilled but the Lord asks us to remember pass over and Day of Trumpets is his return. Sukkot will be celebrated in the millennium. Interested in your thoughts on the millennium? Do you think it already took place, is happening now or is to come? I have been trying to study this out.

They sure did!

If we can't remove something of this world... then we have an issue. May all our hearts continue to be refined. 🙏🏼

All glory to God! I think it’s important we ask questions and work through them. 💕🙏🏼

BIG hugs! Covering you all in prayer! XOXO

@HeavenlyMindedHome I took the tree down this morning. I'm done with the tree. Sweet freedom.

First year, no tree

Big hugs, it can be a heavy topic to work through. But- always so important that we ask these questions, take to prayer and reflection, and in all areas of life! Praying alongside of you! XO

We are very similar in our backgrounds. But I quit keeping Christmas a year ago and I'm loving the freedom. Single again after losing my husband to COVID.

Hi Gary. You are a few years younger than my mother who also does not keep these holidays as she is a Messianic Jew. Born Jewish but accepts Jesus as her savior. Her messianic congregation is comprised of people like her along with many raised Christian who came to similar realizations as you and the creator of this channel. Maybe try out a Messianic congregation?

In my region, there are none. I live in rural sw Wis, and no sabbath churches here. i was baptized 1981 in the Worldwide Church of God, which later fel lto pieces as new leaders changed all the doctrines. I present;ly listen to United Church of God, and Pacific Church of God online services. We believe the lost ten tribles of Israel were never lost, to Yah. ANd they are mostly in the USA, Canada, UK, Australia, NZ, and some nw Europe nations. The sons of Joseph , Ephraim and Mannaseh , are the USA and English nations. Idont believe all the Israelite were or are Jewish at all. Judah was only one tribe of 12.@@TheAlexa6

Santa is an anagram for Satan

*Jeremiah 10:1-5* 1 Hear the word which the Lord speaks unto you, O house of Israel: 2 thus says the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. 3 For the CUSTOMS of the people are VAIN: for one cuts a TREE out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. 4 They DECK (decorate) it with SILVER and with GOLD; they FASTEN it with NAILS and with HAMMERS, that it MOVE NOT (sounds like a tree to me). 5 They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not. They must needs be borne (carried), because they cannot go (walk). Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good. Sounds like Jeremiah 10 is describing a PAGAN practice performed on trees similar to practices performed on Christmas trees. Ask yourself this question, did Christians originate the idea the practices of the celebration of Christmas? If you did your research on the roots of the mistletoe, wreath, leaving cookies & milk for Santa dressed in RED (Close to the name Satan. No such thing as coincidence), etc nearly every practice you do on Christmas is a pagan practice dressed up in the name of Christianity. *2 Corinthians 6:17* Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you. Begin your research on paganism's view on trees in relation to fertility. Do further research on the date December 25th in relation to paganism. Be Well

@@masculinevisionary7965 It's interesting that you would quote that verse which is obviously talking about making an IDOL and comparing it to a Christmas tree. That's a bit of a stretch. Also I know not of any Christian celebrating Christmas who worships their tree. That's quite a comical thought. 😂 I never mentioned anything about santa, that were you my friend. I said if one chooses to set a day aside to uplift the birth of The Lord Jesus then there is NOTHING wrong or sinful about that. I would also like you to consider that if it weren't for the celebrating of Christmas then the majority of the secular world wouldn't know who The Lord Jesus was.

@@gospelbaptist263 You will get my "comical" response tomorrow.

Okay, unforeseen events took place that caused me to be a day late in my response. You said, *It's interesting that you would quote that verse which is OBVIOUSLY talking about making an IDOL and comparing it to a Christmas tree. That's a bit of a stretch* You're right about one thing in that statement, it's obvious that scriptural quote is talking about making an IDOL. Now let's get into the "stretching" & "comedy" in all of this idol worship. Correct me if I'm wrong, rituals/practices are "performed" In order to worship something or someone. Rituals/practices are performed when celebrating Christmas right or wrong? Now tell me something @gospelbaptist, which ritual/practice do you perform on Christmas as a Christian is original from any other pagan ritual/practice? Chopping down a tree with an "axe" then decorating that same tree with silver & gold? Not according to *Jeremiah 10:3-4* (Authorized King James Version) 3 For the CUSTOMS of the people are VAIN (self-serving/pointless): for one cuts a TREE out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe (What's stretchy is interpreting that last line as a craftsman CARVING out an idol from the tree. Umm ... Who uses an AXE to carve out ANYTHING?) 4 They DECK (decorate) it with SILVER and with GOLD; they FASTEN it with NAILS and with HAMMERS, that it MOVE NOT (Hmmm ... those rituals/practices don't seem too ORIGINAL from pagan rituals/practices in worshiping their false gods.) So, when you said, *Also I know not of any Christian celebrating Christmas who worships their tree. That's quite a comical thought* 😂 Welp, if you're performing the SAME rituals/practices on the tree that the pagans performed to worship their god/idol (the tree), then yes, you & many Christians are IGNORANTLY worshiping the tree. But you & many Christians are no longer ignorant to the reasons behind the opposition towards Christmas celebration. A celebration that was once illegal in this country. So now you'll be held responsible for what you know. You said you never mentioned anything about Santa. I don't see in my original comment where I accused you of bringing up Santa. Santa was brought up to make a point. If God exists (and He does exist) then coincidence doesn't exist. Santa/Satan come on now. Suicides (death) are at its HIGHEST during the Christmas season. DEATH reigns during the celebration of Christ's BIRTH? Remember, coincidence does not exist. And regarding your last statement, the "majority" of the secular world still rejects Jesus, & celebrates Christmas for the lights, glitz, glamour, gifts, & family gathering. Now family gathering in itself isn't a bad thing. But gathering as a family to perform pagan practices to "honor" Jesus ain't it. I don't have any issues with celebrating Jesus' birth. Just take out the paganism from your celebration.

You can also check out the chronological gospels (book is best but you can also watch the actual videos) that Michael Rood has done.

So it's all about buying stuff and getting the best deals? That's exactly what Heidi is NOT talking about.

@@lanetteehresman9842 LOL what? I have to list everything they do for the inspector? You're ridiculous.

@@eminor42 just saying it's not about the shopping, before or after. I do Christmas and love my Lord Jesus and celebrate Him. I try to every day. It's not about the presents and shopping, discounted stuff or whatever. It's about Christ. You can 'quit' Christmas and still be into the presents. Not me. Just saying. This is not worth arguing over. Satan loves these arguments between believers!

@@lanetteehresman9842 My youngest child recently graduated from a university after seven hard years of studying. He's finally landed a good job that pays well. I can't tell you how happy he is to pay for things withough his parents' help and getting good deals has always been a thing with him, even when he was young. So, yeah, he is having a blast shopping. And it's fun to watch him at this time of his life. This is the same child that once informed me that he can get more calories from Taco Bell than any other fast food restaurant. Which brings me to diet. If you get off your nutritionally-deficient vegan diet and start eating fatty meat, you'll start to feel better.

That's not a true Church.

I would suggest reading (or you can watch in KZfaq) the chronological gospels by Michael Rood. The book actually brings you through the entire gospels that are put chronologically. Michael spent 50 years researching this (and by the grace of God) worked with Hebrew scholars in Israel to help us understand the truth. There is also David Pawson who has done some great Christmas videos. God bless your understanding!