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#34 Case 430 Brake Maintenance

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From Steel To Wood

From Steel To Wood

6 жыл бұрын

Any good machine needs maintenance. It's been almost 4 years since I rebuilt the brakes on my Case 430. It was about time to check, clean and grease. I use a lot the brakes in winter time to steer the tractor.The brakes need to be in good shape in order to work properly. If not greased (where appropriate!), they can jam and can bring the tractor to a standstill.

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@tractorman4461
@tractorman4461 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the link Joe. I see now how it all works. All I have to do now is find the parts and do the work !! I've checked out the company you'd earlier told me you used for the parts and will probably get them all from there. But first the engine work takes priority.
@FromSteelToWood
@FromSteelToWood Жыл бұрын
You are welcome! Of course, no point in fixing the brakes when the future of the engine is uncertain... Although anything on that machine can be fixed and is worth fixing. It's only a matter of knowing which parts to order. Thanks!
@tractorman4461
@tractorman4461 Жыл бұрын
@@FromSteelToWood There was a second factor in removing the brake...knowing the engine is going to be removed for extensive repair, I needed to make the back half mobile. That way it can go outside and free up the work area for this and other cold weather work. With the left rear locked in place that would make it much more difficult. There's no doubt about the value of the tractor, even if it takes a thousand dollars of parts and pieces.
@Hambonedobro
@Hambonedobro 2 жыл бұрын
I'm restoring a 1957 model "312" (three-wheeled) High Crop and I've been dreading the brake job. So grateful that you made this video !
@FromSteelToWood
@FromSteelToWood 2 жыл бұрын
You are welcome! Thanks!
@regsparkes6507
@regsparkes6507 6 жыл бұрын
Good maintenance video Joe,..again nice work. It's always better to maintain it than try to repair it . Your video is well done too.
@FromSteelToWood
@FromSteelToWood 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! One day or the other, I will speak in my videos!!!
@regsparkes6507
@regsparkes6507 6 жыл бұрын
Don't worry about that just yet, the way you are presenting them now makes them easily understood too. You just do what you are comfortable doing.
@captnemo8069
@captnemo8069 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for posting this video. I have a Case 730, its kept in a dry non-heated barn with a concrete floor and used once a year during hay baling time, however, 2 years ago one of the brakes have locked up and in the barn is were it remains. With the engine running I've tried popping the clutch several times but doesn't free it up. I've had no idea where the brake drum assembly was, only that it was internal. I just watched your video, hoped the 730 brakes were similar and they are, now I can't wait to get at it. Also thanks for pointing out the one screw on the housing not to loosen, its holds the brake assembly.
@FromSteelToWood
@FromSteelToWood 4 жыл бұрын
You are welcomed! Glad it helped you!
@GPOutdoors
@GPOutdoors 6 жыл бұрын
Good video again Joe. Thanks for sharing! Cheers!
@FromSteelToWood
@FromSteelToWood 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@peterkober6758
@peterkober6758 5 жыл бұрын
Joe never saw one of those apart Thanks God Bless PaK
@GrampiesWorkshop
@GrampiesWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Great videos Joe and the camera work is terrific. That old Case is lucky to be owned by you!!!
@FromSteelToWood
@FromSteelToWood 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike! This video was one complicated to make. The lights were hard to set, the camera was always in my way, and I was working between the transmission, the fender and the camera!!! The Case gets good maintenance, but it gets some hard work too!
@GrampiesWorkshop
@GrampiesWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
The hard work won't bother it with the care it gets that's for sure...
@kevinc211
@kevinc211 3 жыл бұрын
I like how you said its "only been 4" years since checking the brakes. I have a case 570, awsome machine. Hasn't had a lick of maintenance in 30 years. Injection pump and steering ram finally went. These things are beasts. Great video. Have a brake problem on one side and may tackle it myself now.
@FromSteelToWood
@FromSteelToWood 3 жыл бұрын
That is right! That is a machine that can run for so long without a maintenance!
@leebrown4062
@leebrown4062 6 жыл бұрын
Got one of these tractors my self I'm pretty young and unexperienced on mechanic work but I would like to Learn if you could upload more videos like this it would be greatly appreciated.
@FromSteelToWood
@FromSteelToWood 6 жыл бұрын
I would be glad to do so. I am fairly new to KZfaq and it is just a begining. Do you have a Case? If I am courageous enough, I may split my tractor this summer, to change the crank shaft oïl seal. I may upload a video on routine maintenance on distributor, points, etc. There is the linkage of the hydraulic levers that I should overhaul. There is a tremedous loose in it. So to say, there is many more videos to come! Thanks for watching!
@FromSteelToWood
@FromSteelToWood 5 жыл бұрын
Hello Lee Brown. You might be interested to take a look at my channel. I just published a series of 10+ videos on maintenance of the Case 430 tractor.
@Thomas-wn7cl
@Thomas-wn7cl 5 жыл бұрын
I am in the same boat as Lee Brown, and I am pretty sure I have the same tractor (the label was long since painted over before I bought it). Thanks a million for these videos.
@patfullick3825
@patfullick3825 6 жыл бұрын
I had oil in left side got it down to back plate and it looks like seal and bearing is gone. How do I replace bearing
@FromSteelToWood
@FromSteelToWood 6 жыл бұрын
Pat, I did that job like 4 years ago. The oil seal and bearing are not too complicated to replace. You just need time and patience. And I would suggest you buy 3 oil seals. One for a possible mistake. Here is a link to Yesterday's Tractors. If you don't know this website, this is your place to find such info. Here is a good link (www.yesterdaystractors.com/cgi-bin/viewit.cgi?bd=case&th=143595). There is three specific things I remember from this job. 1- Take out all the floor boards out for best working access. Get new bolts, they most likely will be rusty. 2- The plate where the oil seal is located, this plate is held in place mainly with the outer cover bolts PLUS one Phillips countersunk 3/8'' bolt. This is the last one retaining the plate at this point. This one could be hard to remove because of rust on the head and because it is taper. But the thread should be fine. Don't hesitate to drill the head if not possible to unscrew it. Then when you remove the plate, you get access to the bearing. This is a taper roller bearing. Now the shaft is pretty much loose on one end. If you do both sides at the same time, the whole differential gear is loose in the casing. Not ideal! 3- You have to assemble the plate and bearing, then after the seal. The seal has to slide over the splines. This is the tricky part. You may use some electrical tape or the like to protect the seal from the splines. If you don't have the shop manual, send me an E-mail, I could send you a scan of the specific pages. You will get a better view of the parts beneath the plate. You need to go in the "about" section of my channel to get my E-mail address.
@frankdisanti5641
@frankdisanti5641 5 жыл бұрын
Good video. Where did you get the pick tool for putting the springs back?
@FromSteelToWood
@FromSteelToWood 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Franks! Here is a link to the set I bought from PrincessAuto in Canada. I put an alternate link if you live in USA for Harbor Freight. BUT, I must say I had to take the straight one (pick) and curve it's very end. Actually, it happened accidently in an other job so I kept is as it! The bent part need not to be long. A 1/8'' bend is enough. Pick and Hook Set www.princessauto.com/en/detail/4-pc-pick-and-hook-set/A-p8572703e www.harborfreight.com/4-piece-pick-and-hook-set-66836.html
@frankdisanti5641
@frankdisanti5641 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Joe.
@annereynolds6715
@annereynolds6715 Жыл бұрын
Hi Joe. I just bought a 1969 case 430 gas. I am having trouble locating a distributor cap. One place in Iowa wanted $100. shipping. Also, I got one from Steiner and it was the wrong cap. The i.d. was 3". It needed to be 3.15. Where do you buy yours?
@FromSteelToWood
@FromSteelToWood Жыл бұрын
Hello, I used to get parts from the Case dealership. In the last 20 years, it went from a normal part to get over the counter, to the point it was a special order. So I decided to go with Steiner Tractor. I've ordered a few times there. Then I got another place where I can get the parts. It's Elmer's Repair. See the link below. www.elmersrepair.com/categories/case/parts-by-model/case-100-30-series/430.html?sort=featured&page=3 Hopefully, it helps!
@twentypdrparrott694
@twentypdrparrott694 6 жыл бұрын
No gasket between the brake house and tractor frame?
@FromSteelToWood
@FromSteelToWood 6 жыл бұрын
Sorry for the late answer, I was out for businness and could not reply sooner. No, there is no gasket. Actually, there is a vent/drain hole at the bottom. The oil seal is beneath the splined shaft. The only thing I did in the past is to put some gasket maker on the top portion to avoid any rain water coming into the housing.
@Campbellfineart
@Campbellfineart 4 жыл бұрын
My tractor the brakes are weak. Not much stopping power. I am guessing the bands are worn out. Have you replaced those before and is is straightforward?
@FromSteelToWood
@FromSteelToWood 4 жыл бұрын
Been there before! I had a bad seal and the pads were soaked with oil. Not a big deal replacing the pads and getting a new seal. Do you know SteinerTractor.com? They will sell new pads. If you need more help, don't hesitate to write to joe.lesage@hotmail.com (make sure to copy the whole link).
@jfrank5350
@jfrank5350 4 жыл бұрын
The 2nd bolt you remove from the cover. Its underneath and towards the front. What type of bolt is it? I need help figuring out how to get mine out.
@FromSteelToWood
@FromSteelToWood 4 жыл бұрын
To the best of my knowledge, it's a 1/2 - 20 (UNF) bolt. But it might also be possible on this side of the tractor that it was a stud. Then if it was a stud, the nut was 1/2 - 13 (UNC). Both sides (left and right) were not the same I think. I could not see any good reason for a stud, except to help installing the heavy casting. I hope it can help you! Let me know. (joe.lesage@hotmail.com)
@jfrank5350
@jfrank5350 4 жыл бұрын
@@FromSteelToWood mine have a Hex socket head on the bolt.
@FromSteelToWood
@FromSteelToWood 4 жыл бұрын
Now that you say that, it reminds me that. I might have replaced them by a regular bolt in the past. But yet, the same threads.
@jfrank5350
@jfrank5350 4 жыл бұрын
@@FromSteelToWood thanks Joe, email sent.
@richardmantha9272
@richardmantha9272 6 жыл бұрын
Salut! J`ai un Massey-Harris 1956 Pacer 20hp( plus gros que le Poney 12hp) Je suis de Rouyn-Noranda au Québec. J`ai fait la job de brake cet été , 2 linings straps, 2 drums( comme 2 gros bearing) intérieur au dessus du gear box! (on voit l`huile juste dessous!!!) Les linings straps avaient mal été installés: ils ne touchaient que la moitié des drums....et ce ....des 2 côtés. J`ai grinder les 2 linings qui étaient usés à moitié et remis tout en place!!!... là je "brake sur un 10 cenne!Haha! Ça fait 20 ans que je trouvais que ça freinait pas fort???!!! (moteur refait à neuf en 2015,(3000$), 4 pneus neufs(calcium Liquide) et gratte hydro avant de 7 pieds.....un vrai ti bijou Mon tracteur! Je te comprend de prendre soin du tien...J`aime bien tes vidéos keep going! Salut et merci!( tu demeure où?)
@FromSteelToWood
@FromSteelToWood 6 жыл бұрын
Salut, merci de visionner mes vidéos. Je suis dans les Cantons de l'Est, près de Bromont. Avant que je répare mes brakes, c'était comme toi, ça brakait pas fort. J'étais rendu sur les rivets, et un peu d'huile par-dessus tout ça. Des nouveaux pads et oil seal plus tard, ça va super bien!
@richardmantha9272
@richardmantha9272 6 жыл бұрын
Belle pente de ski!!!.. lorsque j`étais au étude, j`y suis allé souvent (Denturologie Longueuil il y a 25 ans)...Cet été je doit remplacer les 2 oil seal( inner outer) de roues arrières( 4 oil seals..je suis chanceux j`ai le shop manuel de 1956...on le voit tout en morceaux section par section avec no de pièce à côté de chaque pièce!!!! Connait-tu Yesterdaystracteur.com..( U.S.A) .full pièce et manuel pour plusieur tracteur ! Bien pratique! Beubye!
@FromSteelToWood
@FromSteelToWood 6 жыл бұрын
Bien sûr je connais. Des fois il est possible d'avoir le shop manual sur internet (ex. EBay). C'est ce que j'ai fait. Mais c'est quand même très sommaire comme information. Juste le minimum!
@FromSteelToWood
@FromSteelToWood 5 жыл бұрын
Salut Richard. Je ne sais pas si tu es passé sur mon channel dernièrement. Si ça peut t'intéresser, je viens de mettre en ligne une série de vidéos de maintenance sur le Case 430.
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