I swear, you can't die in the Navy without it being supremely horrifying.

As a submariner currently. I would not want my family to know i survived the initial event if they couldn’t save us

My mother was 6 when her father, Lt. Merrill Collier, was one of the officers that went down with the Thresher. He had only reported a week before. Top of his academy class, played the ukulele, loved by his family and friends and classmates. Apparently a humorous fellow. He left behind my grandmother, my mother and her brother, plus her unborn brother. It is a wound that never healed, especially for my mother, who remembers him and still misses him each day. I wish I could have known him, and mourn him, just as I mourn for all those here in the comments, and beyond, who have lost loved ones. May those lost at sea forever dwell in our hearts. May we never forget their bravery.

Folks, this is all misdirection. I speak from experience: I served as an Officer on a nuclear submarine and am familiar with the equipment being discussed. I've read the "new" information. Yes, the Seawolf logs record hearing *something*. They repeatedly requested whomever was making the noise (variously recorded as pings or bangs) to make a specific signal (e.g. "Victors" or morse letter "V", 5 bangs, etc.). Not once was the request complied with. The logs report a stationary "target" on their active sonar that they kept passing over, yet those same logs report that the nature of the target was unknown and may have been "biologics". Remember the mindset of the Seawolf's Captain and crew: They desperately wanted to find the Thresher (as everybody did), and hope was strong. Much like all the rescue workers on the recent collapsed building in Miami. They logged every attempt in real time, and without the benefit of hindsight and subsequent information. In reality, several factors augur for the sudden and catastrophic demise of all of the Thresher crew on the morning of April 10, 1963. First, the escorting ASR (Auxiliary - Submarine Rescue) Skylark heard and recorded her implosion at 0918:20 that morning. When a submarine implodes, it is instantaneous and utterly unsurvivable. The shattered remnants of her hull were found in 5 major pieces scattered over more than 30 acres. That happens when the implosion occurs well above the bottom, and the wreakage drifts down scattering widely through a great depth before hitting the bottom. And lastly, the bottom where the wreakage was ultimately located over a year later is 8100 feet deep. That is many times the classified crush depth of any combat submarine ever made. Her loss was a tragedy and an embarrassment. The massive investigation and inquiry into what went wrong resulted in an enormous effort to upgrade designs, quality controls, and emergency procedures on US submarines. The crew of the Thresher did not die in vain: I, and the thousands of other submariners who have served in the improved submarines in the years since owe our lives in part to their sacrifice. But rest assured that nobody in the crew suffered beyond the moments of mental anguish that they experienced knowing that they were sinking and could not stop it. When their end came, it came faster than their nervous systems could process. Why did the Navy keep this under wraps for so long? Probably several reasons. But at least one of them was to spare the surviving loved ones exactly the emotions that we see in most of these comments, fearing that the crew died a slow and agonizing death. Seawolf was doing her best to find survivors, even when none existed. I cannot explain all of the noises that they reported hearing in their logs, beyond the hope of fellow submariners desperately seeking to help and render aid. Such matters are seldom cut-and-dried, and much conflicting information must be sifted through to discern where the truth actually lies. But I am quite convinced that Thresher's crew did not suffer as so many are speculating based on a narrow thread of conflicting information that runs contrary to demonstrable evidence.

So the reason the documents were classified was to cover up the fact the crew fought for hours and hours to save their doomed boat. We'll never know what great acts of bravery were done.

Tragic doesn't even begin to describe this, it's heartbreaking thinking about those on board. The elation of hearing a rescue attempt, exhausting your battery trying to get them a location, and then realizing and coming to grips with the fact that they can't do anything.

My great-uncle, MM1 John S. Regan, was aboard USS Thresher when she went down. What a horrific last few moments. Fair winds and following seas

Former EM1 Nuclear Electrician here. We are taught to believe our indications no matter what they are. If the Seawolf was reading 20 times above background on the nuclear instruments there was most likely a very big nuclear casualty as there were thousands of feet between it and the Thresher. Video of the wreckage also shows a massive hull breech aft of the sail while the rest of the pressure hull remained intact...with the expected failures of the shaft seal and sail having multiple failures. The ship was buried in nearly 30 feet of mud, so it hit with considerable force. A nuclear casualty would have to be expected at some point, even during a reactor scram the core requires constant cooling...and the battery would have died eventually. You can definitely assume the entire engine room was lost to flooding since the entire shaft up to the thrust bearing was completely out of the ship. The flooding from this at pressure would have put the ship into an unrecoverable position. Assuming the coolant loops didn't shear off from the shock of the ship hitting bottom, the entire engine room would have been filled with water and the electric plant would have been compromised with grounds. The core would have eventually boiled off coolant and melted. The Reactor Officer was new, and the normal RO was at home tending to his wife. If they were trying to get to the surface it's possible they tried an adhoc fast recovery and the reactor failed due to the reactivity addition rate being too high. Or they bled the steam out...so many scenarios here. But it's pretty safe to assume the indications from the Seawolf were legit, and those survivors on the bottom were likely exposed to high radiation and may not have survived a rescue.

“The government lied to us.” Welcome to the real world, Neo.

Imagine what they won’t tell you tomorrow.

The problem is, in the 1960's submarine rescue for the Thresher was by a diving bell which was unfortunately only good to 800 ft of depth. There was no possible rescue available for them unless they could have come up to at least 800 feet.

Ens. Merril Collier, a USNA classmate, had just reported aboard Thresher, as his first submarine assignment. He longed to be a submariner. His loss was very sad to all of us who knew Merril. RIP

Realistically there was no way to rescue those men. They died a terrible death. Every man that goes to sea in submarines recognizes those risks and hopes it will never happen to him. Why the Navy classified this message traffic for fifty years is the real question.

The Reactor was Scrammed, ship rigged for reduced electrical, no ventilation fans turning. Air is getting stale. I served on the Permit class SSN. They have five water tight doors rated for 600 ft of pressure compartmentalizing the different sections of the sub. The strongest chamber was supposed to be the sonar sphere by design, yet is never intended as a life boat as it's access is in the bow compartment past the forward escape trunk. The ship's battery was their last hope. There is a means to use the battery to turn the screw to four knots worth of speed, but if they had that engine room flooding making them heavy, there was no way to use or access it. Auxiliary Machinery space had another electrical motor that was lowered beneath the sub to maneuver in port. It's small and rotatable. If they bottomed out on the sea floor, this too would be useless. Based on this release, my guess, is the Reactor Compartment Tunnel water tight doors were shut and was keeping the water out of the Operations Compartment. The two doors acted like a hull and backup which would become Sub Safe's standard practice going forward. Hull and Backups. There are some backups for ships control surfaces. The very last backup is pressurize air, good for a few full swings of the ships control surfaces before that option is used up. The air compressors need electrical power to recharge compressed air reserves. I seriously doubt the Captain would want to use the last of the battery power for air compressors. They were using it to call for help. This will haunt me.

Dad joined in 1958 at 17 years old. He started out on diesel boats (Cobbler, Cubera). He served on the James Monroe and Thomas Jefferson finally retiring as an E9 Master Chief Machinist Mate and C.O.B. USS Memphis. He knew men on both the Thresher and Scorpion. The Submarine force is a tight knit group. He never forgot these men. Eternal Patrol is what this is called.

Well bismarck's words ring true. "Never believe anything until it has been officially denied."

As someone who was on the USS Iowa BB61 on April 19th 1989 I know a thing or two about the Navy lying about an accident and trying to cover it up.

The SeaWolf & SeaOwl told the DD's to F-off & be quiet multiple times, and they just kept on making noise.. wow.

After imploding at 730 metres in 1/20th of a second, the idea that there could be a functional sonar and someone onboard Thresher left alive to operate it is utterly ludicrous.

I have a hard time believing thresher was able to hold position for 20 hours above crush depth on emergency power.

To the men on the USS Thresher: Fair winds and following seas

It's a very unfortunate lesson learned, but the Thresher incident started the Navy's SUBSAFE program.... accountability of all parts and materials that penetrate the pressure hull.

Bruce Rule himself said you're spewing fiction, and that should be the final word: “This KZfaq video is false, the Seawolf report the presenter is reading from is correct, but the final report certified it was false readings. Seawolf was confused by the active sonar and noise created by the destroyers and the diesel submarine Sea Owl searching for Thresher on 11 April 1963, the day after she was lost. She mistook all sounds from the searching ships as banging on the hull and sonar pings from Thresher. It was a mistake.”

This video reminds me of an episode I saw from "Twilight Zone". A submarine apparently sunk in WW2 but one chief survived. He was brought on board rescue ship. He started hearing banging noises but he was the only one who could hear them. He was going crazy continually saying they are calling muster on me. The onboard doctor thought the chief was delusional. He continued to hear the hull banging sounds. Finally he screamed they are calling muster on me. He got out of the sailors clutches attempting to keep him from jumping overboard to be with his fellow sailors but he managed to jump into the sea. An inquiry was made in the sunken sub. The divers got into the submarine only to fine a skeleton with a hammer in his hand. That episode still gives me the creeps so it seems like the chief was hearing a dead crewman banging on the hull. There is no telling what the gallant captain of the stricken sub told his men when they were staring their deaths right in the face. So very sad!

My age was 13 at the time. "Thresher" was one of the reasons I did not end up in the Royal Dutch Navy as a submariner, like my mother wanted. Riveting and very knowledgable exposé of what happened, Heartbreaking fate of crew deserves place in our memory.

Hey, Jive, that's not a radio message, that's a formal naval letter. Old YN2/SS here. Radio messages are ALL CAPS.

I've gone back to the books, and it's very clear that the implosion happened at 0918 on 10th April. Not only did SOSUS detect it, clearly, but also the Skylark, right above Thresher, heard it as well at the same time. Further, at 1730 on the same day, the Recovery spotted an oil slick and debris, all of which were consistent with Thresher. In the old Polmar book, it is clear that the activities of Sea Wolf were taken into account, but attributed to various noises and echoes from other search vessels. Panic over!

I have doubts about the "pings". The implosion event heard by multiple sources precludes any guided activity from Thresher after that point.

So, Thresher spent over 24 hours drifting at neutral buoyancy before another failure and dropping below crush depth? Having served on a 594 class, I have some insight: 1) The 594 has 5 compartments, 3 of which can fully flood without overcoming the boats reserve buoyancy. The Bow compartment, Reactor Compartment, and the Machinery space (AMS). 2) The Machinery space could not have been flooded because the SSMG's are there. The fact that she was able to go active on its main sonar indicates it had AC power if only from the battery. 3) If they were neutrally buoyant, why did they not simply pump the trim tanks to sea? Or blow the negative tank? If they had the power to run main sonar, they would have had the power to run the trim pump, drain pump, and EPM. I find it difficult that the crew could not have made the boat surface if they had 24 or more hours to figure it out. Especially if they were drifting in the water column

Feels like it was hours and days of just asking “you dead yet?”. It seems like seawolf found them quickly with good accuracy… but then it’s just asking for more messages? What’s the plan for actually getting to the men?

So every surface craft with a sonar is banging away - the Sea Wolf is straining the limits of their ears and systems, and hear what they want to hear. The SOSUS network heard the hull collapse the previous day. The Thresher was already gone.

Remember the 1/3rd trim parties we used to piss Dive off with. We were doing that under NORMAL propulsion. I find it hard to believe Thresher could hold a STOP trim during an engineering flooding casualty for 24 hour on battery. The boat was demolished on the sea floor; which only happens because it was not flooded. The battery capacity of the 594(3) was significantly less than the diesel/electric boats; while the mass was twice the size; with an electrical load approximately 4 xs a diesel boat. I find it implausible that Thresher survived for 24 hours.

Correction on the discussion around the 32 minute mark: they are talking about locating the sea mount the admiral asked for the location of. It was reported in a couple of the entries you skipped over and since it was close by and rose to 450 ft and Seawolf was operating at 400, the boss wanted them to find it so they could avoid it.

I'm having trouble getting my head around this. NO combat submarine in any navy worldwide then or now could survive a submergence to 1300+ fathoms! I'm a retired STSC/SS and have seen "official" reports on both SSN589 and SSN593. Scorpion may have survived a long way down but not a chance below depths that I'm sure are still classified but nowhere close to the depths Thresher went down in. Whatever Seawolf heard, it wasn't live sailors aboard Thresher. Don't be surprised when further reports come out debunking this report as "flawed".

I'd love to hear from anyone on the Seawolf that day. Especially the sonarmen and/or the captain. To hear what they're thoughts are

This is where is gets real for submariners. The Thresher is on, what we call, Eternal Patrol.

Still waiting for SCORPION families to send their own expedition to know what really happened. That they were being restrained from doing so only creates more doubts.

We dismantled the old USS Seawolf and it's predesossor the USS Parche at Puget Sound Naval Shipyard. Both were very unique and very classified subs.

The bottom is like 9000 feet. No part of the Thresher could possibly survive that. And the Skylark, which was nearby at the time of the sinking, got a message stating "exceeding test depth" then detected an implosion event a couple of minutes later by I believe both the Skylark and SOSUS. This all happened a day before the Seawolf arrived. I suspect all the BQC and ping activity was coming from surface vessels.

This is pure BS and sensationalism. I was aboard Sea Leopard, SS-483, in the area, when Thresher went on eternal patrol. We had an FT aboard who had left Thresher just 3 weeks previously due to safety concerns. We were required to do a helo transfer to get him to shore ASAP. I don't recall his name, but would like to know it. I am Don James, Reactor Operator aboard the 611(B) and 598(G), ET1(SS)(DV).

I think it was a bit chaotic, what I think was happening was that the metal on metal banging was coming from the DDG's or one of the DDG's on the surface. They are banging on the hull trying to let the Thresher know that they are up here. later on the party or parties concerned, realized they were confusing the issue, ceased their activity and never mentioned it. The garbled telephone transmissions were obviously the DDG's depth finders, which the Sea Wolf asked them to shut off... The 37 active pings? Probably the Sea Owl doing its own thing thinking it was helping or the DDG's again. There is no breaking up sounds after this... So no Thresher floating at a sub critical depth and then later sinking and imploding. Everyone would hear that, because everyone is listening...... Pictures of the Thresher show no intact compartments, the boat is completely fragmented, broken into five main pieces and strewn across the seafloor within a 33 acre area. So no miraculous survival of a few men in an intact compartment at 8400 feet. What the report shows is just the chaos of a hopeful search and over zealous people attempting contact hearing things and interpreting them incorrectly.

Personally as a father, I would want to know how my son died. As much as it would hurt (this hurts just listening to it), I would want that burden. It's not closure, but it would at least provide clarity to his final moments.

After reading much more of these documents, and reading others analysis of the information. I am beginning to think with all these other ships banging away with active sonars. That Sea wolf was confused in what they thought was Thresher. Just thinking about Thresher is heart wrenching. I can't imagine what was going through the minds of those 129 men onboard. Just doing their damnedest to work the problem and save the ship. God be with those who were lost, and those who were left behind.

Dad worked with a ex USN sub engineer back in the early 90's......one comment he made about the thresher incident always stuck with dad.....'the only thing i can say is that the navy was honest about the thresher being lost.....everything else was bullshit'......this from a guy who spent 30 odd years running nuke reactors on subs, about half of them as chief engineer.....

Damn just damn. Not gonna lie yall, this hurt my soul

This is easily one of the most heart wrenching things that could have happened to those on board. What a mess..

USS Seawolf did not look like most nuclear subs optimized for submerged speed. I saw and toured her in Washington in drydock before she was dismantled. She looked like a really big WW2 Balao Class.

Thanks for the great information, I served aboard the USS Point Loma AGDS 2, in 1977. We were deployed to the Caribbean with the Trieste II on board, we did deep dives in the Cayman Trench, (deepest any human had ever gone up to that point) , as I recall in early September or late August we headed for the Northern Atlantic. Bob Ballard was aboard (I had no Idea who he was at time, I was only 21 years old) We had no idea what our mission was till we arrived on station. I was a signalman and had access to bridge at all times. I saw a paper map and on it was the name "Thresher" with a red circle around it. I knew NOT to say anything for fear of the wrath of the CO. When we were on station the Trieste II did a series of 5 dives (I think) bringing up pieces of metal and placing them in wood and metal containers. Only after we got back to San Diego from the deployment did we find out "officially" that we had been to the Thresher site. Thank you for this great information "37 Pings" would be a great name for a novel about the Thresher. Keep up the good work!

Captin, Jive; you need to write 37 Pings. We had no way to rescue them.....

There are numerous stories of the UUS Oklahoma and other ships sunk at Pearl Harbor, where men on the rescue crews heard tapping in code from inside the sunken hulls for many days. That was only 50 feet of water. The pain and anguish I'm sure was the same listening to that as listening to what USS Seawolf heard, or thought they heard. Several years ago I met an old Submariner who was on the Triest dives and photographed the USS Thresher wreckage. Tough old senior Sailor, and it still bothers him. All hands in the hands of the Lord now.

> However, after the commander of Task Group 89.7 ordered that echo ranging and fathometers be secured so as to not interfere with the search, no further acoustic signals were detected by the Seawolf other than those originating from other searching ships and the submarine Sea Owl.[19] Ultimately, the Court of Inquiry determined That while operating as a unit of the search force, the U.S.S. Seawolf (SSN575) recorded possible electronic emissions and underwater noises. None of the signals which SEAWOLF received equated with anything that could have been originated by human beings.[20]

Those men were at 1100 feet, 7000 is just too deep to speculate. Has anyone calculated her buoyancy with totally flooded compartments? Just too heavy to surface, just a very slow dive that was beyond control? So many feet per hour, per flooded compartment. Not necessarily a compromised boat, but a very specific unrecoverable problem.

They did not tell the truth because it would not have changed anything. When the Seawolf possibly located the Thresher at 1100 feet it was already too late to rescue the men or save the sub. If unimaginably the Thresher were below crush depth at contact, the Navy had no way to reach them.

In dive 2, @ 1355, there is NO tapping...! Instead there is "taping", as in, the USS Seawolf is TAPING (recording) everything that is going on, everything they "hear"!

Aaron I think your knowledge and videos are excellent. But this video - I just can’t buy there being survivors 24 hours after the sinking. It’s an impossible scenario when the sub was heard to implode a day before. Almost all other naval experts I have read disagree with your findings. Keep up the good work , I enjoy your commentary and knowledge sharing.

Others have already pointed this out, but this was not the final report. The USS Seawolf account of pings, etc. were discounted and attributed to other vessels in the area.

I am retired Army. The sea unnerves me (tough gal talk for « frightens me ») and the deep sea terrifies me. Respect to the submariners from me.

Conclusion #35 of the Navy Court of Inquiry: "That while operating as a unit of the search force, the U.S.S. Seawolf (SSN575) recorded possible electronic emissions and underwater noises. None of the signals which SEAWOLF received equated with anything that could have been originated by human beings." There's no way anyone could have survived at the sea depths on-scene, especially after Thresher imploded at 0918 on 10-Apr.

I am just a stranger but thanks for sharing this. My grandfather was one of the engineers that worked on Thresher and the only reason I was told he wasn't on board for the voyage was because he got sick. A fortunate incident in a terrible tragedy.

The grandpa of a friend of mine was a crew member of the USS Thresher. My condolences to all friends and families who lost a beloved person on that day

What a bombshell...I can't believe how much this changes our perceptions of what happened to the Thresher & that they could keep it under wraps for so many decades. Certainly puts it in a different light. Also, great video name, JT 👍

I think no matter what the crew on USS Seawolf heard, it was definitely beyond rescue. Nothing they could do.

As a proud U.S. NAVY veteran I salute those brave sailors. May they encounter fair winds and following seas on their voyage to their final port of call. At ease gentlemen, you have fullfilled your mission. God rest your souls. ✌🇺🇸

Don't want to be the nay-sayer, but this report is laden with suppositions, guesses, and mistakes. If the Thresher was semi-buoyant between test and crush depth, and then sunk to crush depth, it would have made quite a bang. SOSUS never recorded such an event. I was in the 3rd grade when this happened, and I'll never forget it.

Wow! Just wow! That is unbelievable! Thank you for going through this with us.

This is terrifying, I can't even imagine what that operation must have been like for the crew of the Seawolf and even worse the survivors on Thresher, truly chilling news.

I hate to say it, but the noises from the _Thresher_ just sound like the _Seawolf_ letting hope overcome reason and interpreting random noise as intelligent activity. If there had been anybody alive and operating the BOQ, they would have pulsed in morse, answered the _Seawolf's_ request for five pings, kept a steady pinging, anything but make random jazz doodling with the equipment. It was just the wreckage settling and maybe batteries giving up the last of their power in random connections, maybe mixed in with some biological activity.

Hey Jive, I used to work at the Portsmouth Naval Shipyard (civilian). There’s a huge memorial for the Thresher in the center of Kittery. Even 50 years later people at the yard don’t like to talk about it (even less the 2012 fire - future video perhaps?). What little they would say about the incident, they’d change the mourning into pride over SUBSAFE protocols that developed from the incident. I never got the chance to ask people outside the yard, but I was always told PNSY was THE PLACE to go to get subs serviced because of the short turn around time, low cost, and incredible safety record - despite it being the smallest yard. Hopefully it’s true. Everyone had monumental pride over that status as a sort of atonement for the Thresher. I was only in IT, so I never really saw subs much. I love your channel because it provides context to the mission I was supporting.

When you don't want your enemies to know, you don't tell your own people either. Not surprised the truth has been kept completely in the dark for all this time.

I’m not convinced that the Seawolf heard anything from the Thresher. This would require the Thresher to stay above crush depth for an extended period. SOSUS data indicated the Thresher imploded early on 10Apr

I was a ET1SS onboard 3 different nuclear subs and I can tell you that sub went down and no survivors. This guy is suggesting the sub was floating somewhere between crush depth for a day or two, what a bunch of crap. No one survived. I knew people that worked at SOSUS and they confirmed the explosions. If they were floating around don't you think they would be constantly pinging for help? They sank in 8400 ft of water thats 44 lbs of pressure for every 100ft, that's over 3000 lbs of sea pressure. Those 37 pings may have come from other ships/interference or people just think they heard them.The overhaul for this sub was cut short and letters from the crew indicated that when the left dry dock the ship had a lot of issues. I think she sank due to poor overhaul, that's why SUBSAFE was incorporated. Those Submariners are on eternal patrol and in Gods hand. Freedom is never free.

Subbed. Appreciate that you spent time to highlight the horrific details of the incident that has been cold-cased for 50 years. Such a tragedy.

Those new revelations kinda did a knot on my stomach, not gonna lie... it's sad.

Sobering reality for all those who serve beneath the waves. We are in their debt for their sacrifice, which subsequently lead to SUBSAFE I and II. Rest in Peace.

These rumors have been circulating for over fifty years now and I remember it being talked about when I was in sub school and later sonar a-school back in the late seventies. In his 1974 book 'The Thresher Disaster', John Bentley discusses them, without the Sea Wolfs transcripts of course. The prevailing rumor was that an anonymous submarine, searching the Threshers last known position, had possibly heard garbled human transmissions from a submarines underwater telephone, UQC, possibly located in the lost submarines bow compartment which had, rumor, been blown off of an imploding submarine and was floating on a thermal layer while slowly flooding and sinking. Its clear that the Navy considered the SWs reports and discarded them as in error.

To this day I remember seeing the Boston newspaper headline of this story when it happened, because I’d just learned how to read. And have followed it ever since. I’m blown away right now.

The "mainframe pings can also be a dd SQS-4 series sonar or VDS. The 23.5 could be the fathometer. The bangs are transients, which can be anything , The way to sort it out is to get them to respond to a count , gertrude, ot morse. There is no such response , there is no evidence here that there is anyone alive.

Bruce Rule, a naval acoustic and SOSUS expert who testified at the Thresher inquiry, has stated: “This KZfaq video is false, the Seawolf report the presenter is reading from is correct, but the final report certified it was false readings. Seawolf was confused by the active sonar and noise created by the destroyers and the diesel submarine Sea Owl searching for Thresher on 11 April 1963, the day after she was lost. She mistook all sounds from the searching ships as banging on the hull and sonar pings from Thresher. It was a mistake.”

I still have a lot of emotion for Scorpion, Thresher, and especially the Kursk. This new revelation is crazy. Thank you for sharing.

The fact they still were fighting to be found, even when at home they were already declared lost to the public is gut wrenching...

Wow. Just brutal. Thanks for taking us through this, as hard as it was.

According to an article I read, they decided that the contacts were merely interference from other search vehicles. How could anyone be alive in Thresher after she imploded? No human could have survived that sinking.

This is part of what I find so valuable about your channel (and similar channels that cover different content) - delivering the facts in a way that the layperson like myself can digest and form an opinion. Many thanks for covering this, as concerning as the information is 👍

This is honestly heartbreaking and incredibly sad may they're souls rest in peace :(

Just taking the report at face value, since no one ever responded as instructed at the very least indicates that they were not in communication. I also find it difficult to believe the Navy would be so insensitive to just release documentation indicating people were alive when the prevailing thought is that they died without a major announcement or presser. The while thing is just horrible. My heart goes out to them and their families.

Thank you so much for putting this comprehensive explanation together so we don’t have to look through all that ourselves!

I remember in bootcamp I had an EMN1 who was a sub tell me about this story. Been trying to find more info and I’m glad I got this. Thank you!

Thank you for the breakdown, I can not imagine what the crew felt knowing what was going to happen to them. I hope they are now at peace.

1350 fathoms = 8100 ft = 2.4 km. Definitely werent at the bottom while transmitting.

I doubt the Thresher was just kind of floating around just above crush depth. The Seawolf guys were high on hopium.

I was very privileged to be at a sub base in mid 1970's . I could always sense when our Senior Command was onboard the station. Admiral Rickover was a powerful presence that could be felt in the area & sensitive personel could tell how close he was by the intensity of the man. I have known some Officers that did not like the perfectionist & demanding demeanor of The Admiral however even a young Navy sailor like myself could tell ; he knew another possible loss of a submarine , such as Thresher would be possible if everything was not as perfect as perfect could be. I will be so honored to see the Admiral when I return to Heaven. I'm sure Heaven is in better order since he arrived . He loved his submariners & I think we all know , he knew of the reports on the investigation of the loss of the thresher & how they were still alive many days after the public was told that the submarine quickly broke up. ................

Bloody hell. I have no words. . .

Whoa. This is a very neat angle for your channel to go down. Super interesting!

I'm at a loss for words. I served on USS MIAMI (SSN-755) in early 2000's. STS2(SS) I remember listening to the recordings during SUBSAFE training. The story was that the end went fairly quickly for the boat and crew.

Your passion and love of country and Navy is inspiring ! ty

I guess that the families can take heart that they fought to the end, and never gave up. A toast to the fallen....all of them.

Very grateful to have this sad news broken down in detail by a true expert.

Watching and subbed to you since 2017 when The Mighty Jingles made videos about Cold Waters and collaborated with you. Great to see you growing like this!

During search for Oceangate they heard pings, false pings, this is why I feel the thresher didn’t ping, it was the ships making noises above.

This is absolutely heartbreaking.