37s NO LIFT Jeep Gladiator Rubicon

37s NO LIFT Jeep Gladiator Rubicon | Inside Line

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The 2020 Jeep Gladiator has proven to be an excellent build platform for those looking to adventure off-road and maintain a useable midsized truck for everyday life. With Jeep’s most capable Rubicon version coming from the factory with highline fenders, it stands out as the go-to model for those wanting to run a much larger than stock tire with a minimal amount of lift. While we have thoroughly tested running 35s and no lift on the Gladiator Rubicon, we wanted to see if it was possible to get away with an even larger 37-inch-tall tire.
For this test, we would use a 37x12.50R17 Nitto Trail Grappler and pair it with a 17-inch AEV Borah DualSport wheel. Both of these were picked for specific reasons. While the Trail Grappler has become our favorite mud-terrain radial on the market, the fact that it’s a very true-to-size 37 would ensure that our test would be fairly accurate. While you can watch our full video breakdown of our AEV wheels on our channel, the important takeaway for this purpose was the fact that the wheels had an ideal +25mm offset.
So, how did it work? You’ll need to watch all the way through to find out!
00:00 Intro
00:36 Tires & Wheels
02:33 RTI Ramp
04:31 Driving Impressions
05:47 Spare Tire
06:44 Off-Road
07:16 Does It Work
07:31 What's Next
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@imrevin7 3 жыл бұрын

Videos like this seem so silly, and yet like a moth to the flame- here I am! With the number of new Gladiators hitting the road, I expect this to work its way up through the youtube algorithm haha..... Great coverage, great depth in covering wheel offset and WHY you chose to run such in addition to cause/effect of tucking it up..... I look forward to the next vid of your budget friendly trial!

@MilitaryMobility Жыл бұрын

Just what we were looking for. Thanks!

@PROXIMO22 5 ай бұрын

its always good to have information from someone that you feel like has some integrity. good clean production and lots of thought that goes into a video like this. it's not a real easy thing to do! i have done a very proper build a time or too but i lack these skills of showing my talents of a good mechanic, hahaha! thank you for this video. there are many like it but this is a good one.

@cac90277 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome video, production and topic. Very helpful.

@DrivingLine 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@dashti442 3 жыл бұрын

Good looking Jeep 👍

@tonymontgomery5827 3 жыл бұрын

I have the gladiator sport s. Recently lifted with the mopar 2.5, mounted 37s on it. Love the way it looks and drives. With the lift even offroad I get no rubbing. Great video sir!

@SLICKW1993 3 жыл бұрын

Did you get the gas or diesel? I was looking at a diesel but not sure if it’s worth the extra cost.

@tonymontgomery5827 3 жыл бұрын

@@SLICKW1993 gas. Diesel was not an option at time. I'm not positive but I don't believe diesel has a max tow option.

@ciscoortiz7129 3 жыл бұрын

What size wheels?

@tonymontgomery5827 3 жыл бұрын

@@ciscoortiz7129 I actually bought 4 more factory spare rims and used those. Gives it a military look.

@Intentsrig 6 ай бұрын

Old video but I am running 37's on my gladiator sport. KBD high clearance fenders and Method 701's 17x8.5 +0mm off set/ 4.75"bs. Stubby Rubicon OE bumper. So I still have a tiny bit wider/ poke when you consider your extra .75" each side on the Rubicon axles. Of course it would rub off road but on road it is fine. My main concern was turning while off road and flexing, hitting the edge of the grille area.

@phillipvd92 3 жыл бұрын

Great video and very descriptive. Exactly what I needed to know. Would also really like to hear what would be the minimal amount of lift needed to clear for offroad. Thanks!

@DrivingLine 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. On the next episode, I will test out just how low of a lift you can run and actually cycle the 37s on the trail. Video will be on the channel very soon.

@phillipvd92 3 жыл бұрын

@@DrivingLine Cool. Interesting stuff. Look forward to it.

@jasonlovell3934 3 жыл бұрын

Aftermarket fender flares or trim the front fenders might be the cheapest solution.

@stephencarbajal5657 Жыл бұрын

I wonder if the BF G's would a better option being that the nittos are a true 37's vs BFG being 36?

@rubicon4wheeler 3 жыл бұрын

It's not that you need more lift to keep the tires from rubbing, all you really need is taller bumpstops. But obviously that will limit non-articulating wheel travel, which will also suck. I love that Jeep decided to give the JL and JT decent size wheelwells so that we don't have to run stupid tall lifts to fit decent size tires! Fitting 38's on my JK with 3.5" lift took a decent amount of wheelwell massaging to avert having to limit suspension uptravel. The tires still grab the bottom corner of the grille in the same area you alluded to on your JT, as well as the back of the JK's grille-mounted turn signal light, but it hasn't proven to be much of an issue in real-world rockcrawling.

@Ali_Mansour_Editor 3 жыл бұрын

You are correct. I’ll be working with bump stops in the next video. Jeep has done a great job with these modern platforms giving us some very large wheelwells.

@rubicon4wheeler 3 жыл бұрын

@@Ali_Mansour_Editor I plan to get a Gladiator for myself if they release a 4xe version, so I'll be following your build closely.

@mehdiabderrahmane2439 6 ай бұрын

I m a big fan of your KZfaq channel and i wanted to thanks you for the amazing job that you do! 👍🏼 I have a 2023 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon with OEM steel front bumper without the sides wings caps and i buy Black Rhino Arsenal wheels who are : Wheel Size: 17x9.5 Bolt Pattern: 5x5 Backspace: 4.54 Offsets -18 Hub Bore: 71.6 I would love to put 37x12.5x17 Nitto Ridge Grappler tires on it and i want to keep the stock suspensions cause i love the low look also i don’t want to buy new suspensions as one of the reasons why i buy the Rubicon is the suspensions. I do moderate off road and no rock climbing and i would love to have your advice on what should i add to not having rubbing issues when i off road (or very little who will not damage the fenders). I m also considering 38x13.5X17 in that case what do you recommend me for the same case? Thanks a lot by advance. Best Mehdi

@Ali_Mansour_Editor 6 ай бұрын

If you want to keep your stock suspension and not rub, you’ll need to split the fender flare. That’ll give you the additional clearance that you need. I would still recommend adding a 1 inch spacer upfront along with a 1 inch bump stop. A 38 is going to rub even more. That’s going to require a real suspension lift to properly cycle it off-road.

@cesarromero6056 3 жыл бұрын

Nice

@mikedeiana1504 3 жыл бұрын

I also have a gladiator with 37 ridge grappler‘s I put a 3 inch spacer kit also shock extensions to keep my factory Fox shocks the truck looks awesome rides like factory with the 33‘s originally i’ve taken it off road no issues I average 17.9 miles to the gallon and I do stay in seventh and sometimes eighth gear if there are no steep hills I’m pretty impressed with this set up occasionally I will see 18.5 miles to the gallon with the cruise control I’m contemplating to re-gear but I don’t think my mileage would increase much so I don’t know if the cost of doing this would be worth it

@Ali_Mansour_Editor 3 жыл бұрын

That's awesome fuel economy! I wish mine was close to that. I just got back from a 400 mile round trip to the mountains. I got 13.8 on the way up and 15.5 on the way back. I'm going to re-gear soon.

@mateopantoja4436 2 жыл бұрын

Is your gladiator a Rubicon? Which spacer kit and extensions did you go with?

@jose32301 3 жыл бұрын

I have a question I’m trying to run same tires for my 21 Jeep Mojave gladiator so they will fit perfect with no lift? I believe they come leveled out

@jose32301 3 жыл бұрын

@Kenny Gall I think yea I seen on other videos they fit perfect I’m going to try it out monday

@valorkennels Жыл бұрын

I've watched this video a few times and also the one with the 1 inch tera flex spacer lift. I have also decided to run 37s with the 1 inch on my rubicon. Can I ask you for the link to that rack you have in the box? Looks like they clamp on and no drilling is required? I really appreciate the content you create. Thanks very much!

@DrivingLine Жыл бұрын

Sure thing. Here is the video I made on it. The link to the rack is in that video description. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b9pdnNqht52vgYk.html

@valorkennels Жыл бұрын

@@DrivingLine Thank you!

@JoseGarcilazo-w5o 17 күн бұрын

Hi there, love these videos, definitely the most helpful videos Ive found. Question, Im thinking of adding the JKS 3.5 suspension lift you did to your gladiator, and running 37s, do I need a wheel with the offset and backspacing as high if I intend to lift it? Thank You!!

@DrivingLine 17 күн бұрын

Thanks. In terms of backspacing. You can go with as little as 4.75 inches or as high as 5.72 (what you see here with the AEV wheels.

@Chineli09 3 жыл бұрын

With that tire size do you know if regearing is necessary since I know they come with 4.10 I want to run that size on my Mojave

@DrivingLine 3 жыл бұрын

I would plan on regearing with 37s. I ran 4.10s for a long time, but you miss out on 8th gear. I went with 4.88s.

@dennistollefson4903 3 жыл бұрын

Just got my 2021 Gladiator Rubicon diesel yesterday. I have two questions for you if you don't mind. #1. I am looking at the same tire set up you have but looking at the Rhino Arsenal wheels. Do I go with the 17x9.5 Front and Rear 5x127.00 -18 Offset and Backspace 4.54...or do I go with the 17x8 Front and Rear 5x114.30 and 5x4.5 Offset 30 and Backspace 5.68? (Note I don't like the large lips some of these rims have) I definitely don't like the aggressive stance, most of the Jeep owners have. I want the stance to be like yours, near flushed. What are your thoughts? #2. I am about 95% sure I will be going with the Mopar 2" lift with the 1.5 front Teraflex spacer to even out the ride, do you think I will need to re-gear? strong

@DrivingLine 3 жыл бұрын

I would opt for the wheels with the 5.68 inches of backspacing if you want the tire to be under the fender more (similar to what I have). I would recommending regearing for sure. I have 4.88's now and it made a big difference getting my over drive gears back. If you live in a mountains area, I would go with a 5.13. - Ali

@dennistollefson4903 3 жыл бұрын

@@DrivingLine thank you for all your advice. Just to confirm you recommend to re-gear to 4.88 even with 8 speed transmission snd Diesel engine?

@DrivingLine 3 жыл бұрын

@@dennistollefson4903 Going with a 4.88 is going to be a little on the high-side for the diesel, but it's going to keep you in useable power all the time. After spending time with a modified diesel Gladiator recently, I feel they respond very well with a high differential gear set. If you are worried about the RPM's being too high on the interstate, go with a 4.56.

@zacharyfike1071 3 жыл бұрын

Would love to see a 1.5 in lift for these trucks

@joegardepe73 2 жыл бұрын

The Mojave has a factory 1.5 “ lift

@tonywilford7452 3 жыл бұрын

what about airing down, would it stick out and hit the fenders?

@Ali_Mansour_Editor 3 жыл бұрын

It did not make a measurable difference. I’ll go over this more in the next video. I run seven psi on the trail. The rear is fine, it’s the front that’s the real issue.

@dy1837 2 жыл бұрын

looks like 2.5" to 3" will do with 37s.. awesome vid

@DrivingLine 2 жыл бұрын

You can make less lift work, but 3 inches of lift works great on this platform. This Jeep has been running a JKS 3-inch lift for well over a year now and I love it.

@chrisdakins2010 19 күн бұрын

Any thoughts or experience with E rated tires on the Gladiator? I’m running 235 85 R16 Duratracs on my Tacoma (E) and it’s rough. I’m thinking about a Gladiator and I don’t want to do too much that will shag up my warranty. So 1” spacer and 35’s is the likely setup. Duratrac 285 75 R18’s are 11.2” wide and 35.1” tall. But they’re E’s. Would a Mojave be ok with it’s softer ride rather than the Rubicon?

@DrivingLine 18 күн бұрын

The Gladiator comes with a load range C sidewall from the factory. A load range E is going to be firmer for sure, but E ratings are fairly common. I would focus on the tire specs and weight more than anything else.

@maccook1692 3 жыл бұрын

Spare tire solution idea; the JCR adventure carrier

@DrivingLine 3 жыл бұрын

I like their stuff. I just need to be able to drive with the tailgate down at times (dirt bikes), so it eliminates a swing-away tire carrier option.

@gothjoeevil 2 жыл бұрын

Question could I just use my 33 that can with my rubicon for a spare if i had 35’s or 37s on the truck,I see people using donuts

@DrivingLine 2 жыл бұрын

That's a good question and something I'm actually making a video about as I get it asked to me a fair amount. A true-to-size 37 doesn't fit in the stock spare location very well (or usually at all). I would have no issue running a 35-inch spare for 37s. In a pinch, it is better than no spare at all and it fits under the Gladiator well. You can always let a little air out of the 37 to make it closer to the 35 in a pinch. Just don't forget to disable traction control as it may cause an issue.

@michaellyden9839 2 жыл бұрын

Would recommend any cheaper version of the rims that have the same setback thank you. Mike

@DrivingLine 2 жыл бұрын

So long as the wheels have the same backspacing/offset, you will get the same results. I like the style and construction of the AEV wheel, but there are other quality wheels on the market for sure.

@mikedeiana1504 3 жыл бұрын

Excuse me but I forgot to add this is a 2020 Rubicon and my traveling speed is 75 to 80 mphSo far so good

@BoozeManOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын

How much better would this be in the higher lifted Mojave? I believe the Mojave has 2.5 inch lift and 15mm offset

@DrivingLine 2 жыл бұрын

The Mojave has 1-inch of lift over the Rubicon. It would likely still rub, but less for sure.

@BoozeManOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын

@@DrivingLine sweet! Thank you. Just traded my JKU in for the Mojave and starting to rebuild already 💪

@JRudd 2 жыл бұрын

Can the fender “inner” be removed? It looks like they can pop out

@DrivingLine 2 жыл бұрын

I actually just did a video on how the fenders come apart: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l7Wpoa192rTUmY0.html

@NigelNaughton 3 жыл бұрын

An 80 series Land Cruiser can take a 37" tire with no lift too. ;-). But you will probably want to re-gear.

@los2731 3 жыл бұрын

Dang… you got 37s on stock.. you think I can squeeze 38s on my flat flares JTR w/ a 2” AEV spacer lift?

@soonhan3145 3 жыл бұрын

With the 2" spacer lift, yes you would be able to. Just need to get extended bumpstops.

@tonyrodriguez7945 2 жыл бұрын

Hi I just go myself a jeep gladiator can you please advise the # of the tire you using and how do make this possible, I'm have current have a 305/60r18

@DrivingLine 2 жыл бұрын

I’m running a 37x12.50R17 Nitto Trail Grappler.

@AlanTrades Жыл бұрын

Would the stock rubicon wheels work or is the offset not aggressive enough

@DrivingLine Жыл бұрын

I don’t remember the backspacing on the stock wheels. I just know they are a bit too narrow for a 12.50. I’m pretty sure you would need to run a wheel spacer.

@monkeypainter808 3 жыл бұрын

What do you mean about keeping it low because of the long wheelbase?

@DrivingLine 3 жыл бұрын

The long wheelbase makes it have a low breakover angle which isn't great off-road. It's great for stability on the trail, but you often need to pair something this long with a taller lift so you don't drag the belly so much off-road.

@monkeypainter808 3 жыл бұрын

@@DrivingLine I see thanks for the reply.

@NANKEL1 3 жыл бұрын

OK. what diff ratio would be best with 37's

@Ali_Mansour_Editor 3 жыл бұрын

I’m going to go with 4.88s. For the majority of my driving and given I live in a fairly flat part of the US, I think that works ideal for me. If I was going to load the Jeep down with a lot more weight and lived in a place with more elevation changes, I would go with 5.13.

@lallen968 Жыл бұрын

Hello, is Mojave has higher suspension than Rubican from stock? do you think Mojave can put 37 without lift?

@DrivingLine Жыл бұрын

The Mojave is about 1-inch taller, but the bump stops are essentially in the same location. You can put them on as I did in the video, but they will rub at full flex.

@MetroCollectablesandvlogs Жыл бұрын

I have a 2022 Mojave, thinking about going bigger, I dont want to do a lift, just yet. Would 35s make a difference, or do I just go straight to 37s? thank you

@DrivingLine Жыл бұрын

Having spent a lot of time on both 35s and 37s I will say this. The need to re-gear for 37s was important, but with 35s, the 4.10s are fine. Any true to size 37 probably won’t fit in the stock spare tire location, so that’s also something to consider. If you plan on actually wheeling it, the 37s are worth it. For daily driving, the 35s are better for sure.

@MetroCollectablesandvlogs Жыл бұрын

@@DrivingLine appreciate the fast reply. I will be using it as my D.D. but will eventually do trails. But not rock crawling. So confused what to do lol

@zl1guy71 3 жыл бұрын

Do gear change and 37s void warranty? I’m surprised I never see people asking that in comments on a 60k dollar truck

@DrivingLine 3 жыл бұрын

The tires no, but swapping the gears can allow the dealership to void your axle warranty. If I broke an axle, I wouldn't take it to the dealership to fix it anyhow. So, that's not really a concern for me.

@wille.2010 Жыл бұрын

Price on those 37s. Ty

@rffarms3269 3 жыл бұрын

I thought the rubicon comes with a 2.0" lift stock? so is this without a lift or with the mopar 2" ?

@Ali_Mansour_Editor 3 жыл бұрын

It does not come lifted. It does however have high line fender flares which is primarily what allows you to run a larger tire. As you see it here, the Jeep is completely stock suspension wise.

@rffarms3269 3 жыл бұрын

That’s odd, because I was told when selecting my rubicon, that they’re all stock with 2” mopar lift on Fox shocks.

@Ali_Mansour_Editor 3 жыл бұрын

@@rffarms3269 they do come with Fox shocks. I think the confusion typically surrounds the fact that the Rubicon comes with a taller tire than the standard model and they sit 1/2 inch taller than a sport. If you look on most aftermarket suspension manufacturers website, they will often state that their suspension kits will net a half inch lift difference. For example, a 3.5 inch lift will only be a 3 inch lift on a Rubicon. Make sense?

@rffarms3269 3 жыл бұрын

Did you end up lifting it? If so, what did you go with? Simple spacers?

@Ali_Mansour_Editor 3 жыл бұрын

@@rffarms3269 I put in a 1-Inch front spacer and 1-inch bump stop. It works OK. I did a video on it as well. Should be on the channel in the next week or two.

@jasunto 3 жыл бұрын

Icon 2.5" of any stage!

@DrivingLine 3 жыл бұрын

Icon makes some great stuff!

@onebridge7231 3 жыл бұрын

I was leaning toward Icon, but starting to see videos with shock blow outs and bad customer service reviews. I started to look at Falcon and Terra Flex. 2.5 to 3” for 37” tires.

@soberanoluis 2 жыл бұрын

Miklo?

@mikerays4677 2 жыл бұрын

Hi, May i know the width & Et Of the rims.?

@DrivingLine 2 жыл бұрын

I am running the wheel in the true beadlock configuration, so it's essentially a 17x9. If you ran it as a conventional wheel, it would be a 17x8.5. It has a +25mm offset with 5.72 inches of backspacing.

@deonmartin4995 2 жыл бұрын

What is the width on those wheels?

@DrivingLine 2 жыл бұрын

The are 8.5 inches wide in the conventional setup. Appx 9 inches when you run them as a beadlock as shown.

@AlanTrades Жыл бұрын

What about on a stock bumper

@DrivingLine Жыл бұрын

It depends on the wheel and tire specs. I've tried it with the stock plastic bumper on another Jeep and it worked. Still same flex issues, but was drivable on road.

@johnomahony7364 3 жыл бұрын

The V6 cant handle tires bigger than 35in without significant gas mileage decrease..even with a re gear..it really needs th ed v8 hemi 😀

@Ali_Mansour_Editor 3 жыл бұрын

The V-6 isn’t terrible. Just needs proper gearing. A Hemi would be nice though!

@photoapeal 3 жыл бұрын

recently saw one on you tube with a LS v8 corvette engine.

@gibson5056 3 жыл бұрын

Does it rub when you turn?

@DrivingLine 3 жыл бұрын

Not on road. Off-road it hits the fender.

@camaroboi13 2 жыл бұрын

South eastern North Carolina ☝🏻👈🏻👇🏻😵‍💫

@TardyCHAOSXIII Ай бұрын

I hate to say it, but I don’t like these videos “37’s No Lift” primarily because it’s badly misleading for those who aren’t experienced or aware that it’s being done with only the Rubicons and Mojave’s because they come lifted with Fox 2.0 or Mojave Fox 2.5 reservoir shocks pre-lifted with an average gear ratio of 4.10. I have an Overland Edition on 34”’s No Lift. Easily fits 35” but to add 37”s with no lift, I’d have to miner trim my fender and gets wheels with an offset of -12 or -18 to avoid rubbing as I already do now. Plus remove the exhaust shield and replace the rear track bar to fit a 37” spare underneath. Don’t add 37”s unless you have $3.7k+ put away for the damage it’ll cause with the proper upgrades.

@DrivingLine Ай бұрын

What makes you say it’s misleading? I said from the beginning that this is for the Rubicon and have Rubicon in the title. This video is just a show how it worked on my Rubicon. I’m not trying to misrepresent other models.

@TardyCHAOSXIII Ай бұрын

@@DrivingLine I understand, but I was generally speaking for those who still doesn’t quite understand the difference between the two and other models and the KZfaqr fails to specify that, “those two (Mojave and Rubicons) comes with a Fox or Rubicon lift capable of fitting 37”s with little to no work done. Also, I felt the need to mention that, because I’ve seen people walk into the shop requesting 37”s with no lift without other component upgrades on Sport and Willys models. The disappointment in their faces when they find out that an inevitable regear and multiple replacements to be had. And hey, I love and respect your content, I’ve learned a lot here, honestly. So thank you for that and for sharing your great work and content with us all. And it’s why I refer you to most people I meet. I’m very selective and DrivingLine and ExtremeTerrain is where I’ve been learning.

@woodhousestudio6016 3 жыл бұрын

Rubicon has a 2 inch lift stock so it has a lift

@DrivingLine 3 жыл бұрын

The stock Rubicon springs only offer a 1/2-inch of lift over a Sport or Overland model. The highline flares give you two more inches of wheelwell. The Rubicon does not come with a 2-inch lift stock. That would be awesome if it did.

@D1G1TALSYNAPS3 2 жыл бұрын

This dude sounds like Lindsey Graham.

@DrivingLine 2 жыл бұрын

Well, he's from South Carolina and I'm from North Carolina. So, we both have a southern accent. It's not on purpose, I assure you.

@off-roadingexplained8417 2 жыл бұрын

I'll tell you the flaw with RTI... You're looking for the point at which you get one tire off the ground... But when you do you actually have two tires off the ground.. Right rear : 1 0.5 of right front 0.5 of left front It's really two tires off the ground in terms of traction.

@cesarromero6056 3 жыл бұрын

Niccee malcom in the middle