3F Lanshan 1 Pro vs 3F Lanshan 1 | Comparison & Initial Review

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3F Lanshan 1 Pro vs 3F Lanshan 1 | Comparison & Initial Review - Is it an Upgrade?

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This is my initial impressions of the 3F Lanshan 1 Pro tent, and a quick review of how the 3F Lanshan 1 Pro compares to the 3F Lanshan 1. We're currently under lockdown in the UK, but I'll be using the 3F Lanshan 1 Pro in my future trips to see how the tent does on my hiking and camping adventures. If you want to see the Lanshan 1 Pro in action on my wild camping trips, or for a full review of the Lanshan 1 Pro after I've spent more time with it, please subscribe and stay tuned for follow up videos.
The 3F Lanshan 1 Pro (after seam sealing) weighs 703g
The drybag/stuff sack weighs 41g
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The total weight of the Lanshan 1 Pro including the pegs and guylines weighs 865g, making it around 70g lighter than the original 3F Lanshan 1 tent.
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@ivanalban5037 4 жыл бұрын

I'm new to backpacking and have been watching quite a few tent set-up videos. I've seen a few well filmed and informative videos but yours is a step above- thorough without unnecessary clutter. Dude, you even showed how to seam a tent...all in less than 8 minutes! Thanks.

@RichardCheng 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ivan, I try to keep the cut through the waffle and not waste everyone’s time

@Superk1w186 3 жыл бұрын

Totally agree with you Ivan! Too many KZfaqr's seem to prattle away for ages without saying anything of value. Richard is concise and informative!

@RichardCheng 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Julian

@_68niou1 3 жыл бұрын

This video is so high quality. Thank you for your honest review and all the little details you include. So well done. Can't give you high enough praise.

@RichardCheng 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much

@_68niou1 3 жыл бұрын

@@RichardCheng I'm really looking forward to your thoughts on how the Pro version does in the rain/humidity.

@RichardCheng 3 жыл бұрын

It’s exactly as I expect from a single layer tent so far. It’s manageable but don’t expect to pitch it and forget it

@_68niou1 3 жыл бұрын

@@RichardCheng I'm 191 CM tall would I fit in the Pro? I use a 5 cm thick sleeping pad.

@RichardCheng 3 жыл бұрын

It’s hard to say but I think you should be fine diagonally across the tent in the worst case

@phil.clarke 3 жыл бұрын

I am really impressed how transparent you are in 3F sending the tent to you and your affiliate links - well done.

@RichardCheng 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Phillip, I want to make sure everyone’s fully informed about anything that could influence my opinion

@711honved 3 жыл бұрын

An objective & comprehensive review Richard. I'm looking at a tent for a 35 day backpack along the 630 mile SW Coast Path next May & have considered Lanshan. My concerns are the single skin, condensation, seam sealing & ability to withstand strong coastal winds. I've also seen reviews where it is said to be cold inside. Love the light weight & ease of pitch.

@RichardCheng 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I’ve found the Lanshan tents to be able to withstand wind just fine - it may get ‘flappy’ but it’s always get me safe. The seam sealing is also pretty easy to do. The biggest drawback for me and UK users is the condensation due to its single layer

@711honved 3 жыл бұрын

@@RichardCheng Thanks for the constructive feedback. I think I'll wait to see what new offerings hit the market in 2021. Happy camping!

@hoser7706 3 жыл бұрын

Great summary review, thanks. And dude you have the perfect voice for broadcasting!!!

@RichardCheng 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Hoser!

@sawdust4dinner322 2 жыл бұрын

Lanshan 1 you can drop the inner for more space while cooking etc also having the option of no inner for supper lightweight 😉

@RichardCheng 2 жыл бұрын

Yea you can definitely do that, although I’m not brave enough to do that with the midge in Scotland

@WiltshireMan 4 жыл бұрын

Great review Richard, I have the Lanshan 1 original and the larger 2. Great tents, use the L1 a lot, no problems love it. I think with the ventilation around the bottom edge will keep condensation to a minimum but it physics. Cold air outside and you'll get some condensation, will be interesting to see how it copes. Sandy

@RichardCheng 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Sandy. I’m optimistic about how the Lanshan 1 Pro will perform. I’m definitely looking forward to being allowed to go camping again!

@richbuilds_com 4 жыл бұрын

I have the 1 and keep my the gap under my door a bit larger than I see in most pitches. You will get condensation, but if you can keep air circulating it'll carry the condensation out with it.

@RichardCheng 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Richard, I definitely agree with that. I also try to pin the flysheet open whenever possible too

@1invag 3 жыл бұрын

@@richbuilds_com it sounds like you might as well just sleep under a tarp for all the wind protection it provides

@richbuilds_com 3 жыл бұрын

@@1invag I do that too out of bug season. I love my tarp :)

@RS.Outdoors 4 жыл бұрын

Looks a great value tent and had thought about trying one myself. Just been catching up on your adventures and the Fisherfield brought back some memories. Keep getting out and look forward to your new trip videos after lockdown . Atb

@RichardCheng 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks, the Lanshan 1 Pro is still good value for money with all the little quality of life upgrades, even when accounting for the price rise. I’m really pleased with the new model and can’t wait go out with it

@agatho00 4 жыл бұрын

Good to know that is longer. I'm not that tall (180cm), but in Lanshan 1 (the original) I don't have enough space, especially with a Thermarest air mattress (which is taller than a foam mat). Maybe it's time for an upgrade. However, I like the fact that in the case of the original you can only bring the fly with you when there are no mosquitoes to bother you and you don't have to deal with very windy situations. This way you have: 448g for the fly with just one guy line [one that keeps it in place, in front of the door] and 19g the staff sack. And since the minimum number of pegs that are required is 6, another 60g.

@RichardCheng 4 жыл бұрын

Yep the way I see it it’s not a total direct upgrade, but it’s definitely better for taller people

@MicheleValentinuz 4 жыл бұрын

I really like your reviews, honest and on interesting products. You made me want to hike again and sleep in a tent

@RichardCheng 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Michele. It's the highest praise that I'm able to inspire you to go out and go camping 😃

@Dan.Chaytor 4 жыл бұрын

Good preview of the pro Richard. Look forward to your findings. Regards from NZ

@RichardCheng 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Dan!

@shan.kiiiii 3 жыл бұрын

Fantastic review thanks Richard. You covered all the detail really well thank you

@RichardCheng 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Shan

@asylumman 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Richard. As always a helpful vid. The tip around setting the first two pegs was useful. I have the Flames Creed 2 pro but as yet have not had the opportunity to try it out. I am however, booked onto the New Zealand Abel Tasman Track. Carrying an extra one and a half kilos of lightweight camping equipment ,in my opinion, is preferable to staying in the huts.

@RichardCheng 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks David. The Abel Tasman Track looks great, I’m very jealous. Hopefully you’ll love the Lanshan 2 Pro 😁

@SeagrasstoSassafras 2 жыл бұрын

Fantastic review. Thank you for showing the packed weight of the Pro on a scale! Really helpful info 😁

@RichardCheng 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Glad my review was helpful 😄

@gallente4TW 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for specifically mentioning height. I'm 6'6'' (1.98m) and have had to sleep diagonally in every tent I've purchased.

@RichardCheng 4 жыл бұрын

No worries Scott, it must be pretty annoying finding a tent that would suit your height!

@gallente4TW 4 жыл бұрын

@@RichardCheng Lol, you wouldn't believe it. I'm almost definitely going to go for the Lanshan Pro2 tbh. Every review I've watched says the same things about it's enhancements. I expect that although I'll still have to sleep diagonally, that any wicking from my head or feet will be nominal. I watched a video where another tall user added some extra length by guying out the side wall over a stick with a notch cut out in the stick. Thanks for your swift reply, and I look forward to your future reviews. (subbed)

@RichardCheng 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Scott, I try to reply when I can! I really hope the Lanshan 2 Pro works out for you 😃

@GO-pg6wj 4 жыл бұрын

I'm 6'4" and have the regular two wall lanshan 2. I fit in it diagonally comfortably. I think the lanshan 2 pro should have enough room for you if you guy the sides out. Although I would personally put your waterproof jacket over your feet when sleeping at night, just incase you brushed up against the wall.

@wad6216 3 жыл бұрын

@@gallente4TW i found tis too few inches smaller than you but the Nordisk svalbard is a very long tent even though its one man

@MrDanAng1 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for a good video. I think it's worth mentioning that the new double silicon fabric on the Pro tent is also an upgrade from 15 to 20 denier nylon, so the material of the Pro is both stronger because it is sturdier textile AND it has double silicon, which make it even stronger. For me, the most significant difference of the Pro is the space! The old tent felt just a bit too short, the new one feel like a palace! Lenghtwise, I think your 185 cm/6"1' is a very conservative estimate, the tent is not only 20 cm/8 inch longer, it is also 10 cm/4 inch higher since there is no inner tent. IMO it fit a 195-200 cm person. Having to seam-seal it isn't ideal, but it's no big deal, since the old Lanshan must be/should be seam-sealed at some points anyway, it is a 5-10 minute difference in a job that has to be done anyway. From my so far moderate experience with the Pro, it is better than average with regards to condensation... but of course, is condensation a dealbreaker for someone, then they should go for the old one with innertent, because condensation happens... we can just limit it with choice of campsite and a footprint on the vestibule ground. Just my two cents! 🙂

@RichardCheng 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Daniel, some very good points especially around the new material

@363one363 2 жыл бұрын

You forgot to take into account that Langshan 1, being two-layer, allows you to change the inner layer for 3 or 4 seasons. Which makes it more versatile for different seasons and weather conditions.

@RichardCheng 2 жыл бұрын

That’s a good point about the Lanshan 1, a feature I’ve never taken advantage of

@davidwilson6635 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your concise, informative review. I've just received one and need to seam seal it now. looking forward to having an opportunity to use it

@RichardCheng 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks David. Don’t worry too much about the seam sealing, it’s easy enough to do. I hope you get to use it this year 😊

@davidwilson6635 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Richard. I put it up in the garden yesterday and seam sealed it (it was just about dry by the time it snowed later in the day!) Looking forward to using it

@RichardCheng 3 жыл бұрын

Nice one David, it sounds like you timed it to perfection

@barrykimber 3 жыл бұрын

Really clear & concise review, especially as I'm looking at getting one of these 👍

@RichardCheng 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, great time to order one with the sales coming up

@liamwalker3314 4 жыл бұрын

Great review. I own the Lanshan 1 and I find the inner dimensions slightly too small. Looking forward to the follow up!

@RichardCheng 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Liam, hope you’re enjoying the Lanshan 1. The Lanshan 1 Pro is noticeably bigger than the original Lanshan 1. I’ll definitely be reporting back as well as featuring it in my hiking vlogs once we’re allowed to go camping again

@rodrigosilveira4360 4 жыл бұрын

Hi. Congrats for your video. I´m willing for your review on the condensation issues.

@RichardCheng 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Rodrigo, I’ll make sure to keep everyone updated on the Lanshan 1 Pro

@hesgone6699 Жыл бұрын

Thanks, nice review! I use the lanshan 1 original a lot on cycle tours. I should try the pro

@RichardCheng Жыл бұрын

Thanks. I really like the Pro over the original Lanshan 1. The extra room is nice for changing in and out of cycling gear

@Nabagabo22 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Richard for this review. As and when you go hiking and camping again - please do a follow up video to let us know how you get on with internal condensation. I think you will find 3F are not so much up grading Lanshan 1 as matching to the Six Moons Design Lunar Solo - the Pro now looks to be a close match - although the Lunar Solo bath tub floor is a bit wider for the same length. Pro looks like a great hiking solo tent - excellent quality at an affordable price - I agree 3F are to be congratulated!

@RichardCheng 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Steve, I’ll definitely be following up on the Lanshan 1 Pro

@Nabagabo22 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Richard, perhaps of interest 'two fools walking' on KZfaq, multiday mountain trail walking and wild camping (GR 5 French Alps and GR 10 Pyrenees) - get this - with an insanely light load outs - even with several day's food on occasion between trail towns. Great viewing for Lock Down Britain...

@RichardCheng 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for there commendation, I’ll give it a watch!

@richbuilds_com 4 жыл бұрын

I took the Lanshan 1 as my main tent for the C2C. I never had any condensation problems. I do have a larger gap under my door than I see in most pitches. The Pro looks a worthy upgrade but I bought a Flame Creed Xunshang at the end of last season as it has a bit more space in the vestibule for bad weather breakfasts and I'm itching to try it. If it doesn't work out I'll definitely be upgrading my Lanshan 1! Love your videos btw - not many UL youtubers in the UK. Hope to meet you on the trail some day :-)

@RichardCheng 4 жыл бұрын

Cheers Richard - if you ever see me just give me a shout, would love to stop for a chat. I wouldn’t say the condensation is a problem as such, more than in some circumstances it’s just something to be aware of; users can definitely minimise the condensation to avoid any issues

@5x5boy 4 жыл бұрын

Love your content Richard. Are we ready for another update on the tent yet!? Also any plans for any long distance hikes in the UK?

@RichardCheng 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I actually just came back from a 4 day trip with the Lanshan 1 Pro, so a new video should be up later this month

@davids9549 4 жыл бұрын

Great review Richard, and nice tip about the 125cm pole measure! I'm 5'11'' (and not very flexible) and bought a Lanshan 1 last year, set it up in my garden and immediately realised it was too small inside, so sold it on without ever using it. Then I bought this Pro version and it's great! I'll still use my Luxe Hexpeak V4A if I'm anticipating more challenging conditions, but this Lanshan 1 Pro seems ideal as a 3-season UK fairer-weather tent. Only 700g, full protection and enough space - what's not to like for £100? I've used it for a bit of 'stealth camping' in the local woods during the hysteria pandemic, and it has been excellent. Regarding the condensation issue, it's important to ensure the mesh 'band' between the fly and the bathtub is sloping downwards from the top edge of the bathtub, otherwise condensation will trip across the mesh and accumulate on the floor. This has caused some users a problem. I find you can achieve the correct angle by not having the pole set too high, and getting the bottom edges of the fly sufficiently low to the ground. It's quite tricky but practice helps! On uneven ground, though, it can be impossible. This is why the Lunar Solo (and other tents of similar design) incorporate a bungee cord arrangement inside the tent to raise the bathtub sides to get the correct angle that way, and I've seen someone modify their Lanshan 2 Pro with that arrangement. I've made an extra guyline which I attach to the exterior hanging loop at the apex of the tent and peg down to the front, just to add a bit of additional stability. All in all, I reckon this tent is going to prove a great hit with lightweight hikers - it really is a winner in my opinion.

@RichardCheng 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks David for sharing your very detailed experience! I’ve got a couple of trips coming up later in on the year so your tips will come in handy

@hansfranz8795 3 жыл бұрын

Do you think the pro would be all right for somebody who's 195 cm / 6'5"? Doesn't need to have a ton of space, but of course it shouldn't be way too short either ... Thanks in advance!

@RichardCheng 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Hans it’s hard for me to say as you’re 15cm taller than me. If you use a very thin mat sleeping diagonally across or you’re a side sleeper who sleeps curled up then you may be able to fit inside the Pro. The 2 man tent I know from others’ experiences is bigger inside

@hansfranz8795 3 жыл бұрын

@@RichardCheng Wow, thanks for the lightning-fast response! Did not expect that. I guess I just gotta convince one of my shorter hiking buddies to get one and then try it out myself. :D

@RichardCheng 3 жыл бұрын

No worries at all Hans. I think someone has commented on here who was quite tall, but I can’t remember their exact height! Might be worth going through all the comments if you have the time

@bigsky2081 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Richard, excellent review as always.

@RichardCheng 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Big Sky 😊

@pauljenkins2501 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for a thoughtful and honest review.

@RichardCheng 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Paul

@richardabazley 4 жыл бұрын

Nice review. I'm about to drop some money on the Naturehike Vik 1 because I don't have a freestanding tent, but these look sturdier. I might go for the 2 in the Tasmanian summer..

@RichardCheng 4 жыл бұрын

I have the Naturehike Taga 2 which is pretty similar to the Vik which I’ve used and enjoyed. It’s very spacious and easy to set up. I hope you enjoy your Vik 1!

@cavehillrock...wildcamping 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Richard, I have the L1 & 2 and find them both great until it gets windy - these tents flap about like a flag, and with the fly not going near enough the ground the problem is magnified. On one outing the wind was blowing the rain through the L1 air vent! Other than that I'm actually pretty happy with both! atb Sinco

@RichardCheng 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Sinco, I’ve taken my Lanshan 1 out in some pretty strong winds and like you said it does flap around, but I haven’t found this to be a massive issue. It shakes around and is a bit unnerving, but it’s always held up just fine

@driewiel 4 жыл бұрын

I use 2 pegs for the front and overlap the the door(s). Don't even need the zip. This way it will be nice and taut.

@RichardCheng 4 жыл бұрын

Good idea Drie, thank you for sharing

@Mr57Nick 3 жыл бұрын

1Thanks for your excellent review and comparison, have you used the additional footprint to the Lanshan 1 Pro? Looking forward to your next video - all the best

@RichardCheng 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Nick. I don’t use the proper footprint, but I normally use the Lanshan 1 Pro with a DIY polycro (window insulation) ‘footprint’ underneath which works great

@trytheoutdoors 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Great video. Look forward to the update.

@RichardCheng 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks imran

@JTT2505 4 жыл бұрын

Wish they would just make a slightly bigger double skin tent. Single skin in the cold, damp UK is asking for trouble imho.

@RichardCheng 4 жыл бұрын

I’ll be curious to see how actually does in the UK. The Lanshan 1 Pro is more or less an enclosed tarp with an attached netting, with decent ventilation options which could help with the condensation a bit. I’ll definitely report back

@RobertRobbyBolton 4 жыл бұрын

This is a copy of the zpacks Altaplex which I have, made of CF it doesn't have anyone issues of condensation running onto the bathtub floor.

@acnud 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the review so far, I will be interested in your thoughts once you get out in it. I have the flames creed 2 and really like it for size, weight and price.

@RichardCheng 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Duncan, I’ll definitely report back. First impressions on the Lanshan 1 pro are great

@philip771 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent, informative video. Well done! Just remember to smile - you're great!!

@RichardCheng 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Philip, excellent tip

@MrWildWales 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the concise review enjoyed it

@RichardCheng 3 жыл бұрын

No worries, glad it was useful

@therealdrecu 3 жыл бұрын

Any updates on the lanshan 1 pro condensation issue? I'm holding back to buy it until I know how bad it is with this tent.

@RichardCheng 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Michel, with the Lanshan 1 Pro it’s pretty much as expected with a single layer tent in the UK. So far when the conditions aren’t great for condensation (humid, cold air), I’ve had a wipe away condensation that forms on the inner of the fly sheet. It is manageable but the condensation is also noticeable.

@sp3k1974 4 жыл бұрын

The Lanshan 1 already had 2 versions, one with 2 layers and 1 with 1 layer. I had the one with only 1 layer and returned it after a 2 day hike, I woke up with a river of condensation inside. It was 2 very humid days, but still... I got the lashan 2 person version instead, not that much extra weight. You can even fit 2 people inside and haven't had any problems with condensation or rain water. I've also used it for a night under a very heavy storm with no problems at all.

@RichardCheng 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Henrique, did you get the 3F ‘pyramid’ tent instead of the Lanshan? I know that tent doesn’t handle condensation well at all

@moltam99 4 жыл бұрын

The Lanshan 1 original had two layers. The unnamed or "Solo" tent which is very similar to the Lanshan 1 had one layer. The Lanshan 2 requires two trekking poles, and has two layers. There was a Lanshan 1 and 2 Upgrade, which brought minimal changes and a new, darker green color, still two layers. Then there was the "Pyramid" tent, which is a two layer tent similar to the Lanshan 1, but much bigger inside. It requires a 140 cm pole as well, and has all the upgrades that you talked about in this video. This tent was basically unsearchable on Aliexpress, so they renamed it Lanshan 2019. And now we have to Lanshan 1 Pro :) I think Henrique meant the Lanshan 2. If you mean the Pyramid / Lanshan 2019, that doesn't really have condensation issues, I mean it has, but only to the extent of the Lanshan 1. You have to pitch the outside layer higher, and it's fine. I guess people complained because they used a 130cm pole and couldn't get it high enough and that caused condensation. I think 3F recommends a 135 cm pole, but anything below 140 will not work. I got some carbon tentpoles for bikepacking, and with those I can finally pitch it without an extender.

@RichardCheng 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for clarifying that Tamás, that’s really helpful on all the 3F tent models

@moltam99 4 жыл бұрын

@@RichardCheng I just read a comment from the official 3F UL KZfaq channel, they are calling the Pyramid the "Leaning Tower" now :D Someone should really make an Excel out of this.

@RichardCheng 4 жыл бұрын

Great info, thanks again for reporting back!

@mountainrunner1955 3 жыл бұрын

nice reviews! any news about the tent? could you try it some more times? would you prefer the 1 pro instead of the normal one? do you see noticeable differences in the double silnylon fabric of the pro?

@RichardCheng 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Michael, the Pro has been so far so good. Condensation is manageable since I wipe away the condensation with a micro fibre cloth. I really like the extra space you get in the Pro, makes camping so much more comfortable

@linus631 7 ай бұрын

Thank you, very helpful video

@miguelalexiades6816 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Richard, I love your videos man, so measured, informative and accurate, thanks so much for taking the time to make them and also to answer all questions. I actually have a question of my own which have not been able to answer by watching and reading reviews on the Lanshan. When the tent gets rained on, does it pick up any weight? This I understand is one of the problems of the Lunar pro, which is another tent I was considering... I was recently camping in the black forest with a borrowed hilliberg akto and that was one of the problems, the soaked tent was considerably heavier. Many thanks and look forward to you posting more on this tent.

@RichardCheng 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Miguel, thank you so much. Yes the Lanshan does pick up weight when wet much like other silnylon tents. From experience I find that when packed away damp and carried for the day before pitching again, it dries out very quickly though. I hope that helps

@miguelalexiades6816 3 жыл бұрын

@@RichardCheng It does, thanks...in your estimation is the weight increase something that is noticeable, over 20% Thanks again!

@RichardCheng 3 жыл бұрын

Yes the difference is definitely noticeable, although it’s hard to say whether that’s purely down to the additional weight or just the wet feeling

@miguelalexiades6816 3 жыл бұрын

@@RichardCheng Thanks Richard, as you say, this issue is systemic insofar as it relates to the material, not the lanshan per se, but I was just wondering if there are differences between how different manufacturers use the material...I really appreciate your response in any case, look forward to your future videos

@RichardCheng 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Miguel, I’ve not noticed how the water retention is different from any other silnylon tent. They all seem to hold some water if packed away wet

@teslasbitch3905 3 жыл бұрын

Great review mate! I dont know which one to buy. I'm swaying towards the Lanshan one because its double layered, have you had a chance get out and test the pro? Are they both 3 season tents? Cheers and keep up the good work 🥦 You've got a new subscriber, I'm also gonna check out that 3F bag

@RichardCheng 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. The Lanshan 1 Pro is the one I prefer. Neither tents are brilliant at handling condensation, but the Pro has so much more space

@dom4223 4 жыл бұрын

Hello, Thank you for this excellent video. A very good presentation of this tent. I have just ordered this tent, and I'm looking forward to receiving it so I can test it in the field. I hope you'll be able to give us your impressions of the condensation when you test it.

@RichardCheng 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Don, thank you. I’ll definitely report back with how I get on with it, I have a couple of upcoming trips planned for when lockdown eases in Scotland

@dom4223 4 жыл бұрын

@@RichardCheng Ok. Thank you

@elstennapel 3 жыл бұрын

Nice review, thanks!

@RichardCheng 3 жыл бұрын

You’re very welcome

@pixxel8637 2 жыл бұрын

First of all thanks for explaining seam sealing! I bought a tarp I still have to seal, where did you buy the silicone? Is it possibly to buy it in a local store, or just online? Also, I saw your Scotland bike packing video (it's great), what stick did you use to set up the tent?

@RichardCheng 2 жыл бұрын

Hi, I bought mine online, but should be available from outdoor stores, or you can even make it yourself! I have a link (affiliate) in the description to the SilNet I used. For my NC500 bikepacking trip I just used my trekking pole strapped to the crossbar of my bike. It’s an Enkeeo carbon fibre pole that’s no longer available

@RugNutz 3 жыл бұрын

Great review. I have come back and watched this video a few times as well as your travel videos. Just finished watching your bike trip. I am curious as to how you are making out with the Pro and condensation. I am looking to replace my existing free standing tent with a more lightweight option. The Lanshan 1 Pro seems to fit the bill but the single wall construction has me worried as I live in the east coast of Canada and humidity and wet weather is a common occurrence. I know you mentioned it briefly in the bike trip video, but now that you have used the tent a bit, is the condensation a significant issue for you?

@RichardCheng 3 жыл бұрын

Hi, first of all thank you. The condensation in the 3F Lanshan 1 Pro is noticeable but manageable. If you select your campsite well and pitch with plenty of ventilation you’ll most likely be fine. Worst case I use my microfibre towel to wipe any condensation off and that does the trick for me, even whilst using a down quilt like on the NC500. Condensation is the single biggest issue with the Lanshan 1 Pro for me in the UK, but that’s because otherwise the Lanshan 1 Pro doesn’t have many flaws!

@RugNutz 3 жыл бұрын

@@RichardCheng Good to hear. Thank you so much for the very quick response. I look forward to your future review videos and still enjoy the travel videos as well. You have a great candor and attention to details that I very much appreciate. Stay safe and enjoy the upcoming camping season.

@RichardCheng 3 жыл бұрын

You too mate, and thank you for the support

@oldunion 4 жыл бұрын

my 2017 and 2019 regular lanshan had YKK zips, it is on the side where the zipper pull is attached.

@RichardCheng 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for reporting this - I’m just confirming that the Lanshan 1 Pro definitely has the visible YKK marking, as well as the zip feeling smoother to pull

@lesleyphillip9423 3 жыл бұрын

Basic question: how to set-up main guyline? This tent comes with no instructions.

@RichardCheng 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Lesley, are you talking about the one attached near the door? You hook the loops on to both sides of the buckle, and peg it out.

@PINACI 5 күн бұрын

Would you say that the Lanshan 1 has the same condensation issue as the Lanshan 1 pro ?

@RichardCheng 5 күн бұрын

I’d say being double layered, the Lanshan 1 is better at handling condensation than the Pro, but it’s manageable in the Pro

@PINACI 5 күн бұрын

@@RichardCheng OK, Thanks for the fast reply. I'm still in two minds as to which one to get but if they had the same amount of condensation then probably would go straight for the single skin pro and buy a sponge cloth.

@gonewild1220 4 жыл бұрын

Nice one Richard!!! Cheers 🙏👣

@RichardCheng 4 жыл бұрын

Cheers Jodz! 👋🏻

@losFondos 3 жыл бұрын

What mat are you using in this video? Is it insulated? Nice review!

@RichardCheng 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I use the OEX Fulcrum EV 2018 mat. It’s insulated and comfortable enough down to below freezing

@stuartmiller8053 2 жыл бұрын

Great review thanks. Interested if you or any of your followers who are on the large side can give their opinion of fit. Im 189cm and 100kg (on a good day) and worried it will be too small. Kind regards

@RichardCheng 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Stuart, it may be a bit tight length wise, but you may be able to squeeze in. It also depends on your sleeping mat, a thin foam mat gives me an extra 3-5cm over a thick air mat!

@eryahs 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Richard, thanks for the nice video. Now after owning it for a while, would you still recommend it to someone who is looking for a light yet affordable tent? I want to hike 6 days of Kungsleden in July and am quite curious how well it will withstand rain, also Im a little hesistant because condensation in a single wall tent? Would be awesome to get a response. BR to you

@RichardCheng 3 жыл бұрын

Hi, yes I would recommend it. Condensation is the only issue with the tent, but it can be mitigated through choosing where to pitch, venting the tent, or simply wipe it down. It’s the tent I grab when I head out

@driellysouza2408 4 жыл бұрын

hello! great video! have you been able to test it out with a rain / wet weather ? I live in Ireland so that’s a big concern . Thank you!!

@RichardCheng 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Drielly, in Scotland the lockdown has only recently been lifted to allow us to go camping. I’ve got a couple of trips where I’ll be using the Lanshan 1 Pro to test it out, and I’ll definitely be reporting back so please stay tuned. If you’re asking about the waterproof ness I’ve full confidence in 3F from my experience with the Lanshan 1, but it’s just a matter of how it handles condensation.

@miguelshaw5309 3 жыл бұрын

Killer review ...thanks

@RichardCheng 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Migulos

@pichayadmitaree7521 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the awesome review. I am getting this tent and I am thinking should I need the footprint? Is the footprint a must have or it is okay not to have? Thanks ... 🙏

@RichardCheng 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I don’t have nor use the footprint with the tent. Sometime I take a piece of window insulation (polycro) as an ultralight DIY groundsheet that weighs less than 50g.

@pichayadmitaree7521 3 жыл бұрын

@@RichardCheng And I am wondering about 3 seasons and 4 seasons tent. What are the differences and what seasons are missing in the 3 seasons? Thanks mate ✌️

@RichardCheng 3 жыл бұрын

I’m not really sure to be quite honest as I only have the one 3F Lanshan 1 Pro which I really like

@HikingWithMartin 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Richard, hope you are well. There is a new update to the lanshan 1 pro it seems for 2021 which is larger again and seems to be the same weight. Do you think you will get one? Im thinking of buying one in khaki-brown colour as I think that looks like a good camo colour too.

@RichardCheng 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Martin, I have not seen the new 2021 version but I’m happy with the size of my Lanshan 1 Pro already, if anything it’s a little larger than what I need and if it was slightly smaller the reduced footprint size would be nice for wild camping

@HikingWithMartin 3 жыл бұрын

@@RichardCheng thanks Richard I think I will get it as I would probably like that extra space, thanks for your excellent review

@RichardCheng 3 жыл бұрын

No worries at all Martin, I hope you like your Lanshan 1 Pro!

@sachamuller4624 Жыл бұрын

Hello, i am really planning to buy that Lanshan 1 Pro. Do you think it is still the best choice on the market today ? Thanks

@RichardCheng Жыл бұрын

Hi, for me it would be between the Pro and the Plus as the choice for a budget ultralight tent

@MarkSweeting_ 4 жыл бұрын

Hi. The tent seems very flappy. Also very high off the ground. Could you not make it any more taught or lower? Thanks. Very informative video

@RichardCheng 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Mark, the Lanshan 1 and the Lanshan 1 Pro are quite ‘flappy’ in high wind as they’re more like tarps than a traditional tent. This was filmed on a hill on quite a gusty and windy day. It can definitely be pitched lower, and I could’ve pitched it more taught with better terrain too

@jamesfox899 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the review! I just bought lanshan2pro. Question is: can i use seam grip+wo instead of silnet ? Thank you

@RichardCheng 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Giacomo, I’m not an expert so I won’t pretend to know the answer to your question. I can only say from my experience SilNet definitely works with the Lanshan Pro

@tour-pak1751 4 жыл бұрын

Well i just bit the bullet and bought the pro 1 I read many reviews and studied heaps of KZfaq videos My main concern was to have a light weight spacious tent that i could use for hiking and bicycle touring the lanshan 1 pro appears to have ticked all the boxes and will replace my msr hubba I will have to buy an additional pole for when i use the tent for bicycle touring Look forward to more advise on dealing with condensation however i have never had problems with condensation in the past I am presuming that our conditions in Australia might be a significant factor? Thanks for the great review

@RichardCheng 4 жыл бұрын

Hi, yes, the UK is pretty bad for condensation because of the cooler air and the humid conditions. You may not have much of an issue in Australia

@ejeskirowing 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Richard, I just ordered a 1pro because of your great review . I’m however still a bit puzzled about the exact pole height you need. Opinions seem to vary between 125 and 135 cm. What is your opinion?

@RichardCheng 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Ernst-Jan. The Lanshan 1 and Lanshan Pro are more like tarps than traditional tents, so depending on the pitch the pole heigh can vary. I normally set my pole at 125cm, and it seems like it works very well for the Lanshan 1 Pro. The 125cm is also how far apart the pegs are incidentally which can help with the pitch too. I hope that helps.

@ejeskirowing 4 жыл бұрын

@@RichardCheng thanks for your very fast reply. I get it now. I think I'll order a 125cm carbon pole for the tent since I never use trekking poles. Not even when I trekked to Everest base camp last year.

@RichardCheng 4 жыл бұрын

No worries at all, if you don’t use trekking poles the carbon fibre ones are a great idea. Myself and my hiking friends love trekking poles though and really find it useful towards the end of the day especially

@Chiz1992 2 жыл бұрын

Hi do you know if you can zip up the outer tent from the inside?

@RichardCheng 2 жыл бұрын

Yes you definitely can. I’ve zipped up the flysheet during the night from my sleeping bag many times

@banshee107 2 жыл бұрын

Good review

@RichardCheng 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much

@sorvoja 3 жыл бұрын

You did not describe the difference in star gazing capabilities between the tents, I guess that is a major issue now with a single layer? I would really appreciate your views on this. Thanks.

@RichardCheng 3 жыл бұрын

With the Lanshan 1 Pro you will always have the fly sheet, you won’t be able to pitch inner net only

@sorvoja 3 жыл бұрын

@@RichardCheng thanks

@TheMaecki 3 жыл бұрын

So, any comments on condensation? I'm also a bit worried about that 1 layer.

@RichardCheng 3 жыл бұрын

No problems with the condensation that can’t be dealt with. I bring a small cloth to wipe condensation away which deals with any issues nicely

@mginelli76 4 жыл бұрын

volevo comprarla, lho trovata su aliexpress ma leggo che serve mettere una colla sulle cuciture... che colla serve?

@RichardCheng 4 жыл бұрын

Sorry Marco my Italian ability is non existent. If you’re asking about what glue is needed to seam seal i used SilNet which is linked in the description

@lss5144 3 жыл бұрын

Hi, What’s the main difference between Lanshan 1 and Flame Creed 1? Which one would you recommend? Thank you.

@RichardCheng 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve confirmed it with 3F there is no difference other than branding and warranty

@couchumina 3 жыл бұрын

Is there much difference in pack size. Only have small backpack and every bit of spare space helps

@RichardCheng 3 жыл бұрын

Not a huge difference but the pro packs smaller

@marct9942 3 жыл бұрын

In Europe we're having a hard time finding the 3F Lanshan. They do offer the Kikilive Lanshan. Are you familiar with this brand compared to 3F?

@RichardCheng 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Marc, I’ve only got experience of 3F’s products although I know they also an OEM behind other brands. My experience with 3F directly through AliExpress has been great, they’re very responsive and helpful. Sorry I can’t be of more help

@marct9942 3 жыл бұрын

@@RichardCheng Thanks for the reply.

@easyrider2581 2 жыл бұрын

hi! how tall are you? I'm 1.90 mt and I don't know if I will fit into the lanshan 1

@RichardCheng 2 жыл бұрын

I’m 180cm tall, you’ll have a hard time fitting into a Lanshan 1. You’ll probably be much better with the Lanshan 1 Pro which has more room inside

@siegeengine1670 3 ай бұрын

Prepare a large rag and a repeating alarm for the night.

@RichardCheng 3 ай бұрын

I find a small microfibre cloth is more than enough for wiping away the condensation

@siegeengine1670 3 ай бұрын

@@RichardCheng 👍

@yarenyal 3 жыл бұрын

I don't understand the language you speak in the video, to summarize, which one should I buy?

@RichardCheng 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Yaren, KZfaq is able to provide decent auto translated captions if that’s an option to you. Otherwise I think for most people the Lanshan 1 Pro is likely to be the better choice

@0T13 4 жыл бұрын

Would you mind testing this out with your walking poles set to 120cm? Mine aren't adjustable

@RichardCheng 4 жыл бұрын

You can pitch at 120cm just fine

@0T13 4 жыл бұрын

@@RichardCheng awesome. Thanks :)

@TheRodNemisis 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Richard, do you think a groundsheet would be necessary?

@RichardCheng 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Rod, I don’t think it’s necessary and I’ve gone on trips without it - no damage to my tent so far. I bring and use a polycro (window insulation) ground sheet when I can just for peace of mind

@TheRodNemisis 3 жыл бұрын

@@RichardCheng Great, thanks for the quick reply!

@RichardCheng 3 жыл бұрын

No worries at all, happy to help

@bryanshaw38 3 жыл бұрын

Really stuck which version to get. The normal or the pro.

@RichardCheng 3 жыл бұрын

If you’re 178cm or above or want more space I think the pro would be my choice. The normal version has a smaller footprint, is cheaper, and is double layered if you value that

@LateNightSummerRain 6 ай бұрын

Did you try making tent at night?

@RichardCheng 6 ай бұрын

Making as in pitching? If so yes, the tent is easy to pitch once you’ve done it a few times

@krumelmonsterchen8389 3 жыл бұрын

The new Lanshan 1 is now 20cm longer than the old one ;-)

@RichardCheng 3 жыл бұрын

A longer model should make it suitable for more people without much of a weight penalty

@MrShankspony 4 жыл бұрын

Tai hao le! Good review wo pengyou. Xie xie!

@RichardCheng 4 жыл бұрын

No problem at all, thanks!

@largol33t1 3 жыл бұрын

Wait, I have a question: do you HAVE to already have a walking stick to support the tent? Or does it come with one?

@RichardCheng 3 жыл бұрын

It’s a trekking pole tent so you need a stick of around 125cm to support the tent. You don’t necessarily need a trekking pole, you can use any rod of around that length to set it up

@5x5boy 4 жыл бұрын

I wonder how long until they make a DCF version!?

@RichardCheng 4 жыл бұрын

That would be cool to see for sure

@igorstrauss7335 4 жыл бұрын

Wish to now difference between 3F UL and Flames Creed. I now you don't have this answer.

@RichardCheng 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Igor, as far as I can tell Flames Creed is just alternative branding for 3F

@igorstrauss7335 4 жыл бұрын

@@RichardCheng yeah, but for some reason flames creed are more cheap than 3F. That's bad if flames creed have worse quality of material, ore something like that

@RichardCheng 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Igor, I just confirmed with 3F that there are no differences between 3F and Flames Creed apart from branding

@darkofighter1 4 жыл бұрын

@@igorstrauss7335 my flamescreed lanshan 2 weighs 100 grams more than 3f ul version лучше уж от 3ф ул

@nukanokwantmk8882 3 жыл бұрын

Where can I buy a glue for seal?

@RichardCheng 3 жыл бұрын

I used SilNet which can be found on Amazon. I have the links (affiliate) in the video description. You can also make it or buy it from other outdoor stores

@nukanokwantmk8882 3 жыл бұрын

@@RichardCheng yes,I saw when search in google. Just asked you a glue but Lanshan tent was canceled by shop from lazada as 2nd time. It looks like the unavailable item,Lanshan 1 Pro.

@RichardCheng 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you found it okay

@krachedloolom Жыл бұрын

I’m follow your channel.

@RichardCheng Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@SublimatedIce 4 жыл бұрын

Wish they made this tent for tall people. At least 200cm.

@RichardCheng 4 жыл бұрын

The Lanshan 1 Pro is more roomy but I don’t think it’s that roomy. Maybe the Lanshan 2 Pro will work if you slept in it diagonally?

@bsykesthomp1 4 жыл бұрын

I’m 194cm and it’s plenty long for me with a foam mat！

@RichardCheng 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for reporting that Ben!

@McStoolio 3 жыл бұрын

Jesus, it doesn't half flap about mate. Not sure I could sleep with that flapping going on. Looks like you are pitching this up the braids, which is exposed, but still..

@RichardCheng 3 жыл бұрын

Hi, this was on a pretty windy day, and the tent was completely empty which exaggerates the ‘flappiness’. You could also choose to pitch the 3F Lanshan lower too if you prefer

@McStoolio 3 жыл бұрын

@@RichardCheng I guess, but I suppose it highlights the limitations of these single pole designs - stability sacrificed for weight reduction. I had a look for a longer term review, have you done one yet or actually used it for a trip? Looks like you have some good content, I'm off to the Cairngorms, bikepacking, in a couple of weeks. I'll check out some of your videos. Thanks

@RichardCheng 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve used it as my main tent for the past year, including on the NC500. No concerns about the stability for me, especially after having used the normal Lanshan 1 extensively

@willisbcteoh9840 2 ай бұрын

😂

@driewiel 4 жыл бұрын

There is nothing Pro about a single layer tent. And the extra space you need so you don't touch the wet fabric. Which you probably will anyhow. So sorry, no Lanshan Pro for me. I'll stick with the old one.

@RichardCheng 4 жыл бұрын

From reading the description the ‘Pro’ comes from the upgraded silnylon and it being a new version. I’m curious to find how it fares later this month 😃

@driewiel 4 жыл бұрын

@@RichardCheng Here's a test for you. Weigh everything in the morning when it is still wet. I wouldn't be surprised if the double layer Lanshan keeps your stuff dryer and thus lighter. Already people are modifying their Lanshan Pro because the bathtub floor is lower than the mesh. So condensation drips on your sleeping bag. I won't even mention condensation droplets falling on your face when it rains. That's why they call it Chinese water-torture: Because they sell you a single wall tent!

@driewiel 4 жыл бұрын

@@RichardCheng And oh. Couple of days ago, day before last of my trip, I lost my Luxe Hexpeak V4a. It fell off my bike!!! ( or rather recumbent trike) I thought I heard something. Didn't stop. Luckily I used it with the Lanshan inner and also carried the Lanshan fly. Surprisingly the Lanshan was much dryer in the morning. No condensation in the rain. I actually like it more then the Hexpeak. With the inside points to pull the nest out it also gives more space. I think I will order a nice 1.60mtr high Aricxi outer tent in case I want a large vestibule. But come on, 1170 grams with pole!! I love the Lanshan 1. The Pro version absolutely not. The only single wall I buy would be cuben fiber. Because it doesn't absorb water. Although chances are I wouldn't even want cuben once tried.

@Autonomous15 Жыл бұрын

Why is there a constant ticking or snapping in the background audio?

@RichardCheng Жыл бұрын

I’m honestly not sure, maybe background noise at a guess? Sorry about that

@georgemartin6389 3 жыл бұрын

Hi how do you think this compares to the zpaks tent? I've been thinking about getting one for a while now but the cost is so much this looks exactly the same, same material/ weight, let me know when youve tested it in the wide world I'd be interested in getting one!

@RichardCheng 3 жыл бұрын

Hi George, I’ve not had the Zpacks tent so can’t really comment on how it compares. The Lanshan 1 Pro has been great though, very spacious and roomy inside, don’t regret taking it on my trips one bit