$3K SHINOLA?? Watch BEFORE You Buy

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5 жыл бұрын

Christian and Jon unbox and review the Shinola Lake Superior Automatic and the Runwell Sport Chrono. Do they live up to their "American-made" and "skilled" branding?
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In today's episode, Christian is joined by Jon Shanahan of The Kavalier to review and analyze the Shinola Lake Superior Automatic and Runwell Sport Chronograph. Shinola is a brand that has very much committed their entire marketing strategy and brand message to being Made in the USA, specifically in Detroit, and while there has certainly been some controversy surrounding that, it's Jon's experience learning very specifically about American Made companies that will, hopefully, lend some perspective here.
First, we have the Runwell Chronograph, priced at $1,125. The blacked out case and roe gold bezel are certainly subjective as a design, but what is pretty objective is the general tinny, hollow feeling of the Runwell's bracelet and bezel action. The chronograph function, as well, felt very jittery, and seemed to move very much at its own pace during the reset. Speaking of the reset, the version we reviewed came misaligned which, though not entirely unheard of in more affordable watches, is really unacceptable at the $1k+ price point.
Then we have the Lake Superior Automatic, priced at $1,450 running the SW200 automatic movement. We have the "Gift Set" version, which should in theory have pretty impressive packaging, but it ultimately doesn't offer much that can't also be found in watches coming in at considerably less. The design, too, suffers the fate of so many dive watches in that it's more or less a Rolex Submariner with a couple of aesthetic changes which, though arguably the theme of a divers watch anyway, is still kind of depressing at almost $1,500.

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@real_fjcalabrese 5 жыл бұрын

Shinola is the best $200 watch you can buy. They just don't sell for that.

@artagain8977 5 жыл бұрын

Frederick Calabrese so true. Hipster social/fad. The quality is just not there.

@TheoandHarris 5 жыл бұрын

Such a good way to put it hahahaha

@real_fjcalabrese 5 жыл бұрын

@footballcoreano I don't think you got the humor.

@shelleyinthecity 5 жыл бұрын

@@real_fjcalabrese But you are paying extra to wear an American made. Pay less and it will be made in some sweat shop in a rural town in China with child labor. You are getting something for your money. No humor here.

@real_fjcalabrese 5 жыл бұрын

@@shelleyinthecity Switzerland has higher labor rates than the US. With Shinola you are paying for marketing.

@MichealC 5 жыл бұрын

I love my Shinola and I won’t lie I’m from Michigan. Now I know that Shinola isn’t a Rolex or a Omega but it’s all about pride of Detroit. I feel if you don’t like it, then please tell them what they need to know to make it better. And if you buy one thank you 🙏.

@julesthewalker 5 жыл бұрын

This sums it up pretty well : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mq5jf6yV0rjWcZc.html

@MichealC 5 жыл бұрын

@Christopher Schuster No you do to make a comment like that. Have you ever build anything and no matter what people think you still have pride in what you build. But thanks for your reply.

@Roadjull 5 жыл бұрын

@Christopher Schuster You're not criticizing the brand as much as pulling an ad hominem ("low self-esteem"). Just don't be a dick, not much to ask.

@rollingtones1 4 жыл бұрын

Your watch case is MADE IN CHINA. I have seen them opened up.

@wdaniels87 5 жыл бұрын

Here in Michigan, people go gaga over shinola. People don’t decide between a shinola and an oris, they decide between and Apple Watch and a shinola. Shinola is a marketing brand that sells watches. Glad they are “made in Michigan” though.

@rollingtones1 4 жыл бұрын

The cases are all MADE IN CHINA. How's that for being genuine?

@Mr20001 2 жыл бұрын

@@rollingtones1 Yes, the cases are made in China, just like many other things. That’s already been established, David. The watches, in their entirety, are assembled in Detroit.

@littlesoundboxes121 4 жыл бұрын

I'm from Detroit. My whole family is born and bred there. I love the brand for what it is and for what it stands for. It's like repping your sports team, this brand is very similar to that analogy. While the sport gurus and armchair sprots/watch connoisseurs trash your team/watch > you don't change or rethink your love for the San Diego Padres (or whomever) because they're suck, you love em' because xyz. I'd rather have a Shinola than a French watch that's "better" yet means absolutely nothing to me. All the hate on Shinola only makes me embrace them more. Just my personal opinion. If you're looking for the best micro brand, then maybe Shinola is or isn't for you. Lot's of idiosyncrasies to factor. Great video for what it presents, none the less.

@rollingtones1 4 жыл бұрын

I have seen them opened up - the cases are all MADE IN CHINA.

@littlesoundboxes121 4 жыл бұрын

David Gold Thats great. I never said anything regarding where every piece of the watch was made. Shinola is assembled in Detroit America. Is an American brand. That’s all I GAF about in that regard. What’s your point with regard to anything I specifically stated in my comment?

@drk9148 2 жыл бұрын

Shinola Quartz movement is terrible. Waste of money for sure buddy.

@Cjimi1904 2 жыл бұрын

Bro I’m from San Diego and I hate it. That’s why I rep Miami.

@CitizenEdge Жыл бұрын

I FEEL YOU 100% _YEZZZUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!_

@tde2019 4 жыл бұрын

Yes, I’m from Michigan and yes I own two Shinola watches, but as unbiased as I can possibly be, you lost me with the bad packaging bit. What is special about the Marnaut packaging lol? And the first brand (whatever it’s name is) has better packaging? It’s just a wooden box? That’s actually almost identical to what Shinola watches usually come with. It’s like you were looking for things to have an issue with. I personally think the two watches you purchased are some of the least appealing watches they make. If I had that bad of taste I wouldn’t like anything I bought either.

@keitumetsemabuza9940 5 жыл бұрын

If you pay 1000 dollars for these watches then you don't know shit from shinola. Thanks for the info, good vid as usual.

@pbhauser 3 жыл бұрын

I like how you spend the entire video complaining that Shinola isn't entirely made in America and that it's over priced... But then you recommend Oris which has nothing to do with America and is three times the price.

@Mr20001 2 жыл бұрын

I think the reasoning for this is because Oris doesn’t (at least not to my knowledge) claim to he “made in America”, like Shinola does. The reality is that Shinola watches are ASSEMBLED in America of parts from other countries. There really is a difference, however, it doesn’t bother me in the least. Watch enthusiasts that hate on Shinola never have anything new to say. Just the same old rhetoric over and over again - “But it’s not made in America! But it’s overpriced!” etc. Oh, and then there’s always the classic and not-so-clever “They don’t know shit from Shinola! Huh-huh!” that they all think is so witty and hysterical. Deceptive marketing aside, we all have overpaid for things, even things made in China. It’s just how it is. At the end of the day, $200 watch can keep time every bit as good as one that costs $2K. Spend your money on what YOU like.

@bm5192 5 жыл бұрын

I agree with you on things and disagree too. You already had a video bashing shinola and I think it's a bad look for you doing this. You're a company and talking bad about watches/brands that someone might own and love might make them think otherwise buying from you. I don't own a shinola but I live in Detroit and people are proud to wear them and support the city. I can see how it doesn't resonate with people outside of Michigan though. Not a good look trashing brands

@scottshapiro5395 5 жыл бұрын

All I'll say is this. I have a quartz Shinola (47mm, big I know) that I got as a gift and despite the price (which I didn't pay and the person who bought it for me got a very good deal on it), I like the watch and get a lot of complements on it. I also have a Breitling Superocean (42mm) that I wear and love, and it matches different outfits for me. Most people expect the feeling I get when I wear the watches to be different because one is luxury and the other is most assuredly not, but that just isn't the case. They both feel solid, keep good time, and match the aesthetic I am trying to portray. I get that people don't like the deceptive marketing and all that, but it really doesn't bother me. For the automatic at $1,500 I will admit there are better watches for this price, while the quartz ones you can get at big discounts. One final note on packaging, the Shinola I got came in a great wood box that I think is great, so I wonder why the packaging for this is so terrible.

@CrescentRollCarl 5 жыл бұрын

That quartz chronograph is horrible. The other watch isn't that bad, but there's many better options out there at that price point.

@drk9148 2 жыл бұрын

Shinola seems more suitable for high schoolers to college kids. Spend your money on quality not this Detroit junk!

@JS-vf8qt Жыл бұрын

Can't accept a review from someone who doesn't know difference between is and are.

@CrescentRollCarl Жыл бұрын

@J S Three years later, the grammar police show up! Probably also the only guy who bought the $3k Shinola.

@JS-vf8qt Жыл бұрын

@CrescentRollCarl You are correct, I be wrong and you is right. Point was old boy, you lose credulity in a review when you "can't spell stuff good". I didn't invent the language, just went to 3rd grade and got a solid C.

@CrescentRollCarl Жыл бұрын

@@JS-vf8qt Enjoy that Shinola

@scottparis6355 4 жыл бұрын

There's a TON of these on eBay. And an indication of who bought them in the first place is that many of the listings either don't mention size at all, or say "watch is about an inch and three quarters across."

@CitizenEdge Жыл бұрын

*I purchased the Quartz Black Blzzard in January of 2018.* I JUST sent it back to Detroit repair to replace the battery and 'square up' the long hand. Interestingly enough, after approximately a week, it was sent back to me in non working order. The top right seconds dial was no longer in motion; rending the watch inoperable. I just sent it back this past monday. I received an email today from Shinola customer service saying that they received my watch are working on repairs. _I hope I can get this_ *$1500* _timepiece back in working order soon!

@danielwilcox6307 2 жыл бұрын

I have the Shinola Argonite 5050, I replaced the battery after 3 years. It is my daily wear, aside from my Omega and Casio. I will say they replaced my broken leather band after two years for free. What I do not like about this video is no real details about the watches quality. They come into the video setting the bar high and give a very generic “it’s ok” without any real content, make me wonder how much they really know.

@inkeduped5005 5 жыл бұрын

RGM Watch Co, in Lancaster PA would be the closest to a real Made in America watch. Another good US based company would be Weiss from LA. I commend Shinola for bringing attention to watch manufacturing and bringing much needed employment to Detroit. The watches however...mehhhh

@colinzenobia 5 жыл бұрын

Great video. As someone who lives in Detroit, Shinola is a beloved brand. People love to wear their products, visit their stores, and talk about the brand. The fact that most people don't know the truth behind the brand makes it hilarious because most of those people would absolutely not buy it if they did.

@colinzenobia 5 жыл бұрын

Turb0wned, That’s what I’m saying.

@connordarrow9670 2 жыл бұрын

As someone from Detroit, shinola is trash so there you go

@bhribik21ify 5 жыл бұрын

I have a Timex expedition chronograph that operates better than that one does

@tek2313 3 жыл бұрын

Do you like the loud ticking on the Timex?

@bjoernaltmann Жыл бұрын

The 45mm and 47mm are extremely large, but I guess that’s for the US market. The Runwell Automatic in 39.8mm is quite nice. The leather straps are made in the US and the dials were also printed in the Detroit factory from what I have seen. The steel three link bracelet is not too light really. - Yes £1050 for this watch is a bit much and the wooden box could have been nicer (the hinges were not screwed in well and the screw heads not countersunk. But you get a handwritten certificate with your name on it and the person who assembled it, which is a nice touch. I think the story and the old factory buildings are charming though.

@AM2PMReviews 5 жыл бұрын

I feel like if you want to support Detroit you can buy a nice Seiko then with the rest of the money, donate it to some Detroit non-profit. 🤣

@The_Kavalier 5 жыл бұрын

Best idea yet

@Snotboxrocked156 5 жыл бұрын

The only reason that these guys are making bad remarks is because the watch is an American chronograph, and because it’s Quartz. If it was a seiko or any foreign quartz movement the reviews would have been much better I promise u.

@dtbroad5862 4 жыл бұрын

Henry Ford's didn't kill the skilled worker. Fords' assembly line simply brought the work to the worker instead of the other way around. This enabled the worker to have his tools and materials in one place and left him to the task at hand enabling him to complete his work much quicker, without other workers in his way trying to work on the same product at the same time, hence increasing production.. Automation is what has killed the skilled worker on all assembly lines and turned them into push button workers, not Henry Ford. .

@prao4166 5 жыл бұрын

Bezel sounded okay. Monster looked okay on Christian’s wrist. Maybe a hair too much piling on and unwillingness to find a silver lining.

@MCWordicus 5 жыл бұрын

Absolutely not, these watches are pathetic for their price, there is no silver lining. I think they are censoring how they really feel, trying to support an American brand.

@303Hammy 9 ай бұрын

These guys are def bedtime pals

@Witchking27 4 жыл бұрын

My wife got me a Shinola Chronograph watch new from the store in Detroit at $225 with taxes. I love it, for that price, it's the best new watch $225 could buy!

@idcjake10 4 жыл бұрын

The chrono shown is ugly but I really don't get the hate against the brand unless you pay in full (Nordstrom hookups lol)

@Witchking27 4 жыл бұрын

@@idcjake10 Yeah I agree that the one they are showing here isn't the best representation of the brand. I also don't get all the hate, since it is indeed a micro brand, which needs higher margins to survive, and god forbid they make any profit lol

@jarcidiacono1 4 жыл бұрын

@theoandharris what do y’all think about the Yema Superman heritage watch? Similar price point

@cpenrose64 5 жыл бұрын

I really, really want to like Shinola. I am born and raised in the Detroit area and currently live minutes from one of their stores. Great marketing. Nice stores with a cafe. The watches do seem very overpriced. I do have a Shinola wallet that is very nice.

@rollingtones1 4 жыл бұрын

The cases are all MADE IN CHINA.

@edwardabraham2238 5 жыл бұрын

Shinola just came out with an auto Runwell with leather strap for $1,095. It looks way better than that Monster contraption. It's still on the expensive side, but is not out of line for an auto that appears to be built very well.

@richieb74 2 жыл бұрын

What’s wrong with the monster? That’s a good watch I’ve looked at them in person and they’re very nice. And the price is about in-line with other non Chinese made autos

@theclash181 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely loved the video, and that song at the end by Joey Pecoraro made me subscribe LOL. Thank you for this review!

@scottlaughlin1528 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent and informative mash-up guys. Keep up the good work.

@TheoandHarris 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Scott!!

@chadbailey7038 5 жыл бұрын

Love the video. Glad you guys finally covered Shinola! There are DEFINITELY better Shinola models and color ways to review. I hope to see more from you all on this micro-brand before my mind is made up! 👍🏾✨

@rogerparis 5 жыл бұрын

That Runwell is by far the worst looking and running watch, bracelet, lugs the whole thing just terrible. Gave me a headache just looking at it. Love the made in America concept, but that watch is a failure. Christian, they need to hire you as a design consultant.

@adamfranceschi5451 5 жыл бұрын

Roger Paris that’s a pretty emotional response to a watch you simply do not like. I’d hate to serve you at a bar. I can only image the agony it would cause you if you simply didn’t like the drink. Probably give you headaches, cramps, and a whole slew of awful inconveniences. You’d probably go on Yelp afterwords and say how much of a disaster the bar is just because your drink didn’t have the umbrella and “light ice” you asked for 😂 You probably wear a Casio with Buzz Lightyear on it...🔥🔥🔥

@artjimeneziii8499 3 жыл бұрын

What's your opinion on Swatches and Movado?

@user-ew2rq4sn2t Жыл бұрын

Shinola uses sellita sw200 on most of their watches. You will find the same movement in other micro brands for less than $300

@woodyjag4084 5 жыл бұрын

Swap the “n” for a “t” in Shinola and I think you have it !!

@jeremyscott5038 5 жыл бұрын

I got one recently and after a few days it was 2 minutes slow. I sent it back and got it ‘fixed’ not even confident that they looked at it after one day of having it it’s now 5 minutes behind. You’d think if a customer came to you with a problem with their product they’d go beyond and above to fix the problem. I don’t feel satisfied at all.

@pedrosaenz2800 5 жыл бұрын

I would go with Phoibos a chinese microbrand with a good option for dayly beaters.

@2steaksandwiches665 3 жыл бұрын

Honestly guys who cares with this thing costs. If you like it, buy it. Not every watch is an investment. In fact most aren’t. I’m probably going to buy one of their runwell automatics.

@adamethancrow 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve a Filson that I picked up in a sale for 100 bucks, great watch at that price. Filson are a division of shinola. I’ve watches from 20 bucks to 12000.

@khronokraze 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this episode, but, I've never been interested in Shinola. Sorry. Sure, there are many other value props for the money you're talking about both modern and vintage. BUT, if we're strictly talking about "Made in America" watches, I highly recommend you check out Pelton. They are in Detroit, as well, if I'm not mistaken. But, they really are made entirely in the United States. Even the metal for the case and bracelet. Ok, maybe the Swiss ETA movement they use is from Switzerland and possibly the crystal, but I think that's it. They balance and regulate them in the United States at Pelton to or better than COSC standards. Even their most expensive Perseus model is $2500 and a lot nicer with the amount of hand-built attention given to them, imho. You get even greater value with their Sector... I think a little over $1k. I think you may be impressed by the craftsmanship and can better respect and appreciate the value prop for an "American Made" watch from Pelton. I will admit they may be perceived as homages. But, I think in good ways. They do enough differently and very nicely that you may easily look past the initial quick feeling of a JLC or AP and just like the watches for what they are. And, maybe a lot more expensive, but RGM Watches does some nice custom hand-built watches, too, and I believe is entirely made in America. Look around, I believe there are actually a decent number of American made watches which I would place under microbrands or just independent that do the title and self-branding of "Made in America", or something like that , proud. Off the top of my head, I think Vortic Watch Co. and possibly Vero come to mind you may want to look closer at. With Vortic, they seem to do a lot of watch conversions.. which I know can be a dicey affair with a lot of other places that claim to do this. But, just check them out and see the quality of their work before you write off what I believe are mainly pocket watch conversions.

@bjoernaltmann 3 жыл бұрын

What about the Runwell Automatic? That only came out last year. I think that still looks best as it is not too big and also their only original design.

@Tdr-jv2nc 3 жыл бұрын

I love my Shinola it’s great quality and it’s the only watch I’ve ever got compliments when wearing and I have a few high end watches as well

@salsa9417 3 жыл бұрын

The reality is Shinola is a dressed of Fossil. They're both lifestyle brands that dabble in watches and accessories. Not to be noted for quality, more for something Grandma would buy you for a graduation present.

@Nathan-hs2ut 5 жыл бұрын

Lmaoo you guys went in hard

@chrisdubois3645 5 жыл бұрын

I wonder how many of the commenters have ever held a Shinola.

@MiniMotoAlliance 3 жыл бұрын

Chinese watches are neat

@dereks66 5 жыл бұрын

Weiss Watches out of LA makes some great timepieces! If you are looking for a timepiece made in the USA, Weiss is a good place to look.

@throwingdartsandbreakinghearts 5 жыл бұрын

Mostly assembled. Not made

@dereks66 5 жыл бұрын

@@throwingdartsandbreakinghearts Obviously most of the parts come from Switzerland.

@Romanellochw 3 жыл бұрын

I want shinola to do well because its a US watch but there is nothing worth buying there. I own one, changed the strap to a NATO and its a little more fun but they are more suited for a teen-20's fun color and good movement watch than an Oris, Hamilton or Tissot level.

@jvojta1 5 жыл бұрын

While Shinola is certainly overpriced, I think they are (mostly) a great story. I just visited Detroit and took a tour of the factory - the folks there take a lot of pride in what they’re doing. Yes I know they aren’t “made” in Detroit, but the guy showing me around was a factory assemblyman before and is now making watch straps and he couldn’t be more thrilled. You definitely get a better feeling there than you do cruising down 47th Street in Manhattan. It justified the price delta in buying a Runwell for me. That being said these two watches are ugly AF lol

@thereddrob 2 жыл бұрын

Do they make all their straps in-house? I wanted to pick up a few, but I also don't want to pay 60$ for a 5$ rebranded nylon strap from China or a 95$ rebranded rubber strap

@mraharb 2 жыл бұрын

What’s the brand of glasses?

@jcktimeless9277 5 жыл бұрын

I like Shinola but Im from Michigan so Im a bit biased. Good watches but a bit pricey for what you’re getting. Id still buy one though.

@rollingtones1 4 жыл бұрын

The cases are all MADE IN CHINA.

@MrRea112 5 жыл бұрын

ams914 Detroit died because manufacturers there sold high priced garbage to a gullible market. The competition from Japan, Germany now Korea put an end to all that. Companies have to learn to deliver value and quality whatever price they sell at. Reputation is all about building trust and too many US companies don’t seem to realise that in their relentless chase for profits now. Just ask Boeing.

@charlesstevens7227 5 жыл бұрын

What was that P.T. Barnum quote???

@todorelojconfernando 5 жыл бұрын

Buy, review, return. Smart

@tomascacko353 5 жыл бұрын

and now you guys should check out Biatec and compare it to this Shinola thing :D It's also a microbrand in similar price range with just 3 models right now (dressy, flieger and a diver) with eterna and sw200-1 movements but guys, their watches are so much better than this. And I'm not just saying that because they make them in my country, I have never heard anything wrong about them, they even make everything except movements so no chinese or japanese parts there and that's something in this times.

@stevenmeitner8477 5 жыл бұрын

Only some Weiss are American made. The 38mm field watches are Swiss parts assembled in America.

@grantlavery7612 5 жыл бұрын

Love your watches, the omega and Rolex. But the shinolas, well, like the saying goes! At that price point, save a few bucks and get a Seiko, better quality and look. My newest watch to my collection, an omega speedmaster, fois in solid Sedna gold, panda dial and brown Croc strap.

@jbideacs2701 5 жыл бұрын

You can still find Shinola made watches under the Filson name on closeout at places for around $500

@jamesg4670 5 жыл бұрын

JBI Deacs still overpriced for what there selling when you have mido tissot seiko hamilton making much better watches for your dollar

@PostedUp Жыл бұрын

The Petoskey stone faced watches are great. Got one for myself and the wife. Too easy to be a snob, just get what you like. The faces on these are just phenomenal.

@joes8134 Жыл бұрын

they are called dials, peasant

@martin4374 5 жыл бұрын

Shinola makes a dope dopp kit, though.

@guannan5085 5 жыл бұрын

Need to listen to Christian roast Tom Ford watches! Listened to what the Time Teller has to say about Tom Ford watches but i really need Christian to roast them!

@NizarSenussi 5 жыл бұрын

I love everything about shinola... except their watches and marketing

@kingofpwnage2368 5 жыл бұрын

The original quartz runwell that’s around 500 is a great casual watch in my opinion

@TheBrah808 Жыл бұрын

500 for a quartz???? Hahha

@bjoernaltmann Жыл бұрын

@@TheBrah808 £2880 for a quartz Cartier Tank.

@karbuckle8294 5 жыл бұрын

I actually like the diver but can’t justify the price. If they were priced comparably to a Halios I’d probably choose the Shinola Diver. The tiebreaker being that it’s assembled in America.

@teleski76 5 жыл бұрын

Please review a Monta Triumph. That is an American company that I would love to hear your opinion on.

@Tom-vy3cb 4 жыл бұрын

They use same movement as Cartier but don't see you complaining about Cartier

@imdiggingahole 4 жыл бұрын

Honestly, it sounded like you guys didn't want to like these from the get go, and then it got worse from there.

@benjaminpauley7823 4 жыл бұрын

Thoughts on the brand Zodiac?

@cardinalj 5 жыл бұрын

Due diligence....one of my favorite terms....

@mcstarling07 5 жыл бұрын

Hate to say it, but Id rather buy a Ginault Ocean Rover than that Shinola. Still get the "Assembled in USA" tag (on the dial no less) and the quality is much better. Not really that interested in either, but if you just want a US watch its definitely better. Weiss Watches are excellent as well, but pricier and they only make field type pieces.

@justthepip 5 жыл бұрын

lol at calling a private equity-funded brand with over $225 million in outside investment a "micro"

@hooplajones8821 2 жыл бұрын

fun classic watches, they look good feel good, not the typical wrist Transformer that is made today.

@jamesjarrell7794 7 ай бұрын

Shinola is the best looking watch I have seen for a $1000 ish watch

@vrbanitas 5 жыл бұрын

thanks for heads up, no shitola for me

@trolltrolling9022 Жыл бұрын

Is the Shinola Chronograph 40mm a women’s watch or is it unisex?

@johnnysack1947 2 жыл бұрын

As a Michigander I fell into the Shinola trap before I knew better and got burned. However, I do love their leather bands though.

@budaflash 5 жыл бұрын

Honestly thought you guys were going to ball wash the brand. Glad you were honest. If you want to take pride in things made in the D buy a classic car.

@distortedfocus7698 3 жыл бұрын

They charge more because supposedly they pay their employees well but all you need to know about their quality is that they're charging upwards of $1000 for a quartz watch. I like the way they look but ill buy a movado if i want an over priced quartz watch that i like the look of.

@Nicool333 5 жыл бұрын

I received a shinola as a gift very recently because the person know of my fascination with horology. I have worn it a couple of times but overall, I think this company is trying to build market share with a patriotic sentiment; not actual watchmaking prowess. The mindshare they hope to gain is by aligning the brand with industrial revolution era-esque Detroit. The company clearly has a long way to go, but as a start, they should find American suppliers for quartz movements and really step up their fit and finish to at least Victorinox levels; OR figure out how to procure US made automatic movements and open the caseback. The company philosophy and they product output seem to be out of sync at this point. While the marketing has been effective thus far, I don't believe it is a sustainable strategy.

@rollingtones1 4 жыл бұрын

They use cases all MADE IN CHINA.

@CitizenEdge Жыл бұрын

The top right dial is for MONTH AND DAY*

@meltdowngrfx969 5 жыл бұрын

Like the fake grass. Classy. Video over at 7:00.

@kaylonbuckley 5 жыл бұрын

Hey that’s the guy from those Watch gang ads lol

@The_Kavalier 5 жыл бұрын

I’m in an ad?

@kaylonbuckley 5 жыл бұрын

The Kavalier yeah I see it on Instagram every once in a while.

@rysmith9433 5 жыл бұрын

Phat Based Trees Clint

@denisspratt926 5 жыл бұрын

Nice video. But i am not sure about Shinola as a brand. Never seen any of their watches live. But the turntable is definitely overpriced. You can get a Project, Rega, Clearaudio or someone that made turntables for decades that sounds better for about half the price. And in this matter i do actually know better then most what i am talking about. I have built better turntables myself. And the bikes are also overpriced. It seems to be a fashion brand for hipsters that are more into the design then they are into how good value you get for the money.

@marcosbermejo266 3 жыл бұрын

RGM is made in Pennsylvania with in house movements, let's see a review on RGM

@artjimeneziii8499 3 жыл бұрын

All American that brand you mentioned.

@tokin420nchokin Жыл бұрын

I guess I dont understand watches that much, or what would make this worth more than a few hundred bucks tops. I have a seiko kinetic that a buddy gave me before he passed away. I dont wear it that often, maybe if I'm going out. I dont think it was all that expensive but I mean at least the band is metal and I can see the movement. Like I said I dont really get watches being worth that much unless they are made of precious metals, and factory set with diamonds.

@ajax5197 5 жыл бұрын

Where can I buy an Anna?

@TheoandHarris 5 жыл бұрын

Out of your price range, my friend 💁‍♀️

@ajax5197 5 жыл бұрын

@@TheoandHarris I'll give you a lifetime amount of Ajax

@JessMan508 5 жыл бұрын

@@ajax5197 I have a couple Annas in stock. Shoot me a DM.

@ajax5197 5 жыл бұрын

@@JessMan508 will do

@ajax5197 5 жыл бұрын

@Dawn Keebolz the high quality cleaning products can be bought at every supermarket. Only the best.

@richieb74 2 жыл бұрын

Idk the monster seemed nice. It’s less than the oris and has the same movement. And shinola make a alright case. I think you can’t get pasted your bias maybe

@orestlachowycz4143 5 жыл бұрын

That monster looks pure Seiko and I'd say every Seiko is better than these. So for all those saying you wouldn't pay $1,000 for a Sumo Padi or Blue Alpinist, please take one of these instead ha ha. I would support local microbrands, if some wouldn't take the piss and over charge for poor quality items. Thanks guys for the video.

@blablablablabittybla561 Жыл бұрын

It sounds like Shinola didn’t pay for a review. Can’t wait to hear how great the same watches are when they do!

@roamy3605 5 жыл бұрын

Shinola produces a lot of different products. Some very nice and some......well? They definitely need someone to consult with about their watch line (Christian; this is where you come in). Yes, people are being harsh about Shinola's watches and yes, some people need to be harsh to try to get them to listen. Yet they still don't get it! These Shinola watches have been around now for years and years. And for years and years they have been taking a lot of flack from the watch community, and with good reason. Shinola can't stake a claim on being a USA/Detroit made watch and think that is all they have to do.

@bigbrotherdustin9875 2 жыл бұрын

I agree with a vintage watches are the way to go though!!!!

@chrishammer5925 3 жыл бұрын

I think they are worth like 4-500. Mine came with leather oil though wooden box! lol I do really like it and it most definitely doesn't feel hallow. Green face is perfect, size is not near that gaudy. Why did you two choose like, the ugliest watches? lol It's older than 2019 though, I think they changed......

@chrisvan4328 2 жыл бұрын

Better off builld a custom watch yourself made with parts sourced from Detroit. The Detrola is decent. My girl has one, she loves it

@rebeccasmith8110 5 жыл бұрын

I hate to hear this. I really like the Runwell design and the idea of an American made watch. Best to know now...Thx Christian!

@TheoandHarris 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Rebecca!!

@ams914 5 жыл бұрын

If you buy them, you ARE supporting Detroit. You ARE supporting a US company. I hope they do well, and I'm glad they seem to be, and people enjoy them. I don't have a Shinola, but I do have a Weiss watch and it feels pretty good to know my money went to an American company for a change. Rolex and Omega certainly don't need my money (even though I have given a lot of it to them in the past LOL). Is it possible for Shinola to price their watches at a level you'd like? I'm legitimately asking. Maybe the issue is they need high margins because of their marketing expenditures and brick and mortar stores, I don't know. Cost of labor as well.

@MrRea112 5 жыл бұрын

@ams914 5 жыл бұрын

@@MrRea112 I agree with that, it's actually very impressive that Germany can do it when they pay there workers more on average. But right now, some people like myself will choose to be "gullible" and support domestic businesses. It would be nice if there were no trade-offs, but right now there are.

@MrRea112 5 жыл бұрын

ams914 Your position is indeed an admirable one - to support your country and all that is in it. It is thus even more important US companies respect and honour that by delivering quality products with integrity backed up by good value. That’s what reputation is all about. Sadly as you say, it’s not for today.

@alanleal30 5 жыл бұрын

ams914 the only thing you’re supporting is the billionaire that owns shinola

@MrJava1593 5 жыл бұрын

How about Fossil!? They're an American company who's been around for over 30 years... I love Fossil watches and they own Zodiac too. Any thoughts?

@jeffhampton7405 4 жыл бұрын

If what you want is a cool looking watch that doesn't cost a ton and you don't care about movements or heritage, Fossil is a great choice. The pricing is much closer to their true value than Shinola is. They won't last for years and years, but they aren't meant to. For an even better value, look at Timex. They cost less, have some awesome designs, and are a long-standing American brand with real heritage.

@edjustice7755 5 жыл бұрын

Nice share, thank you! Pls review a Pelton Perseus, it's US made case and braclet, refinished mvts though. Keep up the great content T&H.

@throwingdartsandbreakinghearts 5 жыл бұрын

2500 for a microbrand with an ETA? Hard pass.

@bubbab7792 5 жыл бұрын

Much better micro-brands out there. Nice job gents....

@miguelalejandroquezadamora5764 5 жыл бұрын

You can almost buy a Monta with that price

@clark2275 2 жыл бұрын

Carefully listening to the turning bezel of a Shinola watch in store made me suddenly and quite literally exclaim ‘OH, FUCK’ in an otherwise quiet boutique (and in front of the sales associates). If Shinola is the best Detroit has to offer then Detroit is pretty fucked if you ask me.

@ammarjohar1341 3 жыл бұрын

I love this channel but if he is shitting on the color combination then he should have gotten one that he liked

@professorpick Жыл бұрын

i think their best offer is their runwell automatic, abiet still over priced. The brand is young and they reviewed Shinola's newest designs, not their best designs.