Next CS2 update: Fixed a million wrongly clipped places on Overpass

2:48 i love how philip had to stop everything he was doing the instant he noticed the gap in the floor

I catch myself sitting and watching your videos, wondering how something that would never interest me in a million years is so interesting. Thank you for your amazing content, we all appreciate it

As someone only ever playing CS casually from time to time this seems like an incredibly frustrating thing to deal with. I don’t want to take a 50-50 chance every time I run away from an enemy that the object I’m climbing is actually climbable.

This nitpicky feedback is what'll make a map consistent and easy to learn for all players. So thank you for finding these minor things to complain about! Hope feedback will be provided of some sort .

Someone once said (forgot who) that it sucks a lot if there is somewhere you can't go when you obviously should be able to. and in the recent times mappers seem to disregard that more and more. in new maps i kept jumping against invisible walls and it just feels wrong and got me killed as well on overpass the most prominent example for me was that when you went onto the middle boxes on A site then there's just a hidden roof (edit: which you apparently covered)

It's definitely a problem that needs to be fixed, some objects that can't be jumped on to for balancing reasons is fine but new overpass is completely hit or miss with clipping

I'm glad you made a video on this because it bugged me so much too. All the years of intuition we build up into identifying climbable objects and positions is seemingly useless on this map in it's current state - including, as you pointed out, different rules for the same object in different parts of the map with no obvious reason

I'm shocked Valve hasn't come to Phillip with a job offering for technical map direction. His attention to detail, and ability to delineate the intent of the player, juxtaposed against the "playability" of the map, is incredible. Every example he gave of what the player might think about the interactability of the environment based on the props and placement, were completely accurate to my own first impressions playing on the map. Stellar work man.🎉

I'm so glad you made a video about this because this was really bugging me. It's strange to see the map completely ignore mapping standards that have been built up over years. I'm a bit concerned that valve don't have anyone who understands counter-strike gameplay and intuitiveness working on the finishing touches of maps, because these are basic things that playtesters pick up on very quickly and community mappers understand (which I can say from experience).

It is odd to see Valve world building with exceptions instead of rules. Hope they get a grip on it, it may seem like minor things, but Valve doesn't usually does those rookie mistakes.

Great video, I was actually thinking why would they add these objects and not let players jump on it.

Thanks you for this lesson on clipping, I am a firm believer that realistic maps can be done so players better understand their surroundings! For example, looking at any map in cs right now, you would rarely be able to tell how a place behind a corner might look like in contrast to real places where your subconscious easily learns the layout types! This is fairly obvious when you are in Venice and walk around for a while, you begin to recognize consitencies in multiple alleys / canals making it easier to navigate. Another example, probably easier to understand is, give a person who never played Dust2 pictures of the different locations, A Side, B Side, Mid, Long, Short etc and let them try to find out the actual layout of the map. (This is probably easier for Dust 2 than Mirage and Inferno, but still works as example). Then in comparison, select a real places and take pictures of different alleys, streets and open places there ( of course all need to be connected somehow ) and let a person try to find out the real layout. I would guarantee that due to the fact mappers often start with a layout first before thinking of a place, its easier for a random person to find the correct layout of a place in the world than a csgo map. If anyone has an opinion on this I would love to hear it!

It always amazes me how CS is one of the few games where you can have a genuine constructive conversation about such small trivial details without getting hate for nitpicking. This stuff is really interesting, even if it makes absolutely no difference to the average player most of the time. It's a good example of the overlooked elements of great game design, something Valve has often been incredible at

It's a shame to see Valve neglect this when every single one of their titles were industry leaders in this type of design. L4D is particularly amazing for being able to climb on so many things that you think should be climbable to the point you would regularly find out of bounds since there was just so little restriction.

Invisibles walls are MAJOR game breaking stuff for me , imagine loosing a round because you tried to jump into something that clearly looks and should be able to get up and you cant... Or behind pushed back by invisibles triangle corners that dont let you be on a place that you should be able to. Its the dumbest and most frustating thing that they are making worst on cs2.

this is the kind of stuff that keeps me up at night 😂 when things aren't intuitive and simple to understand from the outside it's so annoying

Finally Someone is talking about the Un-necessary clippings in the CSGO and CS2 maps

I like the way you clearly explain expected verses actual, explain the feelings (players feeling cheated) in an objective, understandable way, show specific examples, and explain the importance of (seemingly) small problems. This is basically a 10/10 bug report

Valve are blessed to get this level of constructive feedback entirely free. Someone like phillip on the dev team would be invaluable and well paid, if they were on the payroll.

Right on queue, just when I thought of you uploading today it happens within a minute. Keep it up, brah.

4:30 Really fun editing trick there. Thought I was going crosseyed for a second! Love these little bits, going the extra mile ❤

It does surprise me a bit that these things weren't fixed, I really do hope they get fixed before the official release

Can we please talk about 4:31 it's criminal how smooth this transition is

Dude I am literally watching almost all of your videos nowadays , you are truly one of the most goated youtubers of all time , the details and the quality of your videos are much appreciated and loved ❤️

Not only you find these problems, but you offer clear solutions to them. Kudos.

I'm so glad you still make videos. Great stuff

Extremely important video. It seems like new devs worked on this map and didn't knew those nitty pick but really relevant problems. It's one of those things that made valve games masterfully executed and needs to appear in cs2 as well. Greetings from Brazil, keep up the good work!

The issues individually are small but it all contributes to a confusing map. Good video

mr kliks i just want to let you know that your videos honestly bring a blessing to my day every time i watch them, i’ve been going through a weird time and your videos have been a nice comfort for me to watch :) you & your dads music is always lovely to listen to, i have it on my playlist on spotify and listen to it a lot, and your voice is always so calming!! plus the comedy in ur videos is peak

thank you so much for bringing this to everyones attention, its very annoying that some walls you can stand right up against and others seem to have an invisible wall about a foot away from the wall you see.

4:30 that splitscreen edit was phenomenal

Btw at 2:46 it says what you are allowed to put into the "Gelbe Tonne" (yellow bin) but the bin is blue. I checked if the Gelbe Tonne is actually blue (for whatever reason) in Berlin (where this map is located) but no, they are yellow.

philip is that kind of guy that would make anything interesting & inspiring, and most importantly life changing!

wow that double doors example was really egregious, I hope CS fixes stuff like this before the game is fully out

I absolutely agree. The clipping and details in some areas feels weird and almost wrong. Also on Bombsite B there is a food box on top of the wooden plywood stack with the green tarp (you can see it here 6:09) - i was convinced it's a small moveable prop, but it isn't. Yet some spray cans around the map are. It can also be confused for a CT head if you rush from monster. I guess Valve will tidy up the new Overpass map till release - props and clipping wise.

I just came across your channel and man every video is amazing! you put alot of effort in making them and it's perfect. Greeting from morocco sir!

I always have respect for games that let you climb on anything. It’s a game in itself to push the limits of where you can climb and jump on, atleast to me.

Your videos are still in your style, but very fresh. Youre not getting too old for this, Philip!

These frequent uploads are golden

I just love this guy's videos

I like the atmosphere in this video, it sounds really good!

4:31 wtf that transition is so good

You are doing a great service to the community with these videos :)

4:38 I love that they added a trickjump to those sandbags!!

i have always enjoyed the freedom to climb about in game, even to little spots that serve no practical purpose - I loved jumping around on Modern warfare when I was little, climbing my way to little spots that i always wondered if anybody but me knew how to get there. I've never been fond of how CS clips the game in every way to be so brutally flat and boxy, but with props that give the illusion of jagged edges and corners. I think weird little boost spots are great for encouraging teamwork and perfect for surprising your enemy. I've never been more disappointed compared to when I think I can jump onto a ledge only to find it's been clipped off. What about high risk, high reward camping spots? Think highrise in mw2. Climb the outskirts of the buildings in broad daylight without dying? You're rewarding an amazing position to rain hellfire from above! I think something like this on overpass could be used, the olaf boost was reasonable lmao if it took 3 players out of the game to even try to use it lol

4:31 That transition to split screen was so good. Kinda tripped me at first lol.

Best ending of your videos in awhile I must say.

The Captions at the start Jumpscared me along with the pistol shot

Masterful video!

glad you are talking about this, i think valve pay attention to you so im glad you talk about the same things that bug me

Very good analysis

What a nice youtuber! Thanks for subtitles that i asked for xD

Feels like a lot of these changes are aimed at dialing down the sharp-corner camping spots, which, while I can get behind it, it also kinda makes shotgun plays really hard now.

I play games super casually and this kind of thing sticks out and lingers in my mind for years to come, I hate it when I cant tell if I can stand/jump/vault onto stuff in games unless I check each time

Best CS youtuber! Class act!

HAHA the ohne trickjump front. Love it

The problem of invisible walls will never get old it seems

Had a rough week, and hearing Phillips voice is alarmingly soothing. I can feel the rush of neurochemicals making me feel better. Its an unusual response to be aware of, by being so conditioned, but what a nice problem to have. What a pleasant problem, to adore a KZfaqr too much

I see that you've reinstated the closed captions on your videos. Even though I don't necessarily need it, as your voiceover is clear, clean and understandable, I will admit I was somewhat lost when they weren't there anymore. Not sure why, but perhaps your CCs are like a comfort that I've become accustomed to. Well, I'm just glad they're back. Thank you for providing us with high quality content as always, and hopefully KZfaq will actually support their features instead of breaking them.

again a very good video

thank you for your work

Damn... fantastic video.

Your understanding of game design is unmatched

Brilliant subtitles.

Whenever you play the Fort Boyard style theme, it never fails to make me laugh.

Thank you fo pointing this out. drives me crazy.

I hope they watch your videos because you’re doing gods work. i hope they patch or at least acknowledge it

I feel like the way philip says "valve pls fix" is getting more aggressive over time.

CS2 its motto: "What you see is what you get, sometimes"

Even if Valve does not say that they've seen this video. They 100% have seen this video, I guarantee it! The mappers over at Valve care just at much as any other mapper, even tho it might not seem like it sometimes.

I totally agree, it is so enraging seeing such obvious and clever places not accessible. VALVE PLEASE FIX.

Your video's are goated

another great video from 3goatphilip

new game, new content, new material for the 🐐

thanks phil for bringing these up so valve will inevitably succumb to your criticisms and make all of these spots boostable

4:31 SMOOOOOOOTH, well done!

Philip is the most valuable free employ in Valve

that is what I miss from 1.6 a lot. If something looks like you could climb to = you can.

Glad u made this so the devs will actually see it and possibly do something about it

This upsets me to my core

Song at the end is iconic

The water is insane bro tbh the most realistic water graphics I've seen in a game

That whole closed-off playground thing really got me; things like that were feature areas in cs 1.6 maps.

Best journalist ever.

after the clip from alyx, for a minute there my brain thought you were jumping on that ladder in VR counter-strike

Exactly what I thought when I tried that forklift jump today.

Thank you for confirming that I am not insane. I mainly play overpass and when I tried it on cs2, it felt that it was just a new map with all of the small changes. I thought that they made the shelf jump in connector just harder and I was worried that I was losing my mind.

2:48 sometimes a story needs no words.

the constant shade on cbble, I loved that map in the day.

This is a video not only about csgo as much as it is about general heuristics. Designs must be made to make users/players immediately recognize what they can or can’t do, but cs has always had these issues which have annoyed me so much. An ideal map should never need to use clipping to stop players from getting somewhere.

Very interesting!

YOURE THE MAN

I knew it was worth waiting the extra day or two for your vid. With your level of detail, you'd probably be a good alpha version tester for Valve.

That ending got me lol.

good video again 👍

Fun fact at 2:50 The sign above the bin says "Gelbe Tonne", which translates to "yellow bin" and indicates that it's for plastic and packaging. Yet the bin is not yellow! This wouldn't normally happen since the bins are standardized by type and color, and yellow is always yellow.

Philip is always on the run to spot every inconsistency with Counter-Strike, that makes you appreciate his work as a creator because things like the ones he showed in the video go under the radar.

this has annoyed me for so many years. not only on overpass but other maps aswell. thanks for bringing it to light.

Spot on👌