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3rd Function Valve Failure and Troubleshooting

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RSM Stuff

RSM Stuff

2 жыл бұрын

Well I had a failure in the 3rd function valve. I did figure it out and have shared the things I did to figure out the problem. Thanks to Summit Hydraulics for supplying me a new valve to replace it with. The grapple works good for bigger things and not so well with dry small brush. Also my GoPro survived the tractor running it over.

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@FredericksburgHandyman-rt2bz
@FredericksburgHandyman-rt2bz 5 ай бұрын
Thanks! Mine auto opens. It was sure nice seeing the inside parts of the valve and now I know what is in there.
@TheCC89
@TheCC89 27 күн бұрын
Thanks for the information. Mine started acting erratic then started to auto close. It is clearly under load like one of the coils is stuck on. Thought it might be moisture since we just got a lot af rain. One of the buttons feels different compared to the other which is the button that is auto closing, bitton was very sensitive. Checked continuity on both micro switches and they are good. One of the coils has continuity and the other one doesn't seem to have continuity, but its tough to get to upside down. Switched coil plugs and the bottom is now staying engaged, but still Auto closing. Im going to double check control plugs and wire splices for moisture before taking the solenoid valve apart to check for clogs, debris or anything strange., That may be causing power to stay engaged. At least now, I know what I'm looking for because of your video. So thanks. 🙏
@TheCC89
@TheCC89 24 күн бұрын
I think I've narrowed it down to a faulty micro switch. Continuity readings were getting erratic until the point it just wouldn't give me a constant reading compared to the other one. Summit 3rd function kit is just under 2 yrs old.
@appstate1996
@appstate1996 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. I just bought my first tractor (used) and it already had the 3rd function switch and front couplers. I never used them until Saturday when my new grapple arrived. I hooked the grapple up and started the tractor, let it sit a few minutes and then pushed the top button on the 3rd function. Nothing happened. I pushed the bottom button and nothing happened. I don't see the houses jumping like in some other videos, not do I hear a clicking sound when I push the buttons. I traded the hoses to a valve that looks just like the one you have. I'm debating whether I should try to do what you did. I might get the thing apart and not be able to get it together. Plus, I don't even know how to check OHMs. But you showed me where the problem probably is, so thank you for that!
@rsmstuff3178
@rsmstuff3178 Жыл бұрын
I’m glad the video was some help. Before getting real deep it that I would probably check for a fuse in the power wire for the switch and verify that it is good being that it is used. If the fuse is good then I would go deeper into it. The next thing would be to verify voltage to the coils. This can be done with a meter or a 12v light with some wires on it. Unhook the connector and put one wire into each terminal on the plug and try the buttons to verify voltage is getting to the coils.
@railroadmims
@railroadmims 2 жыл бұрын
I just purchased a 3025D from my local dealer in SC and they installed a third function before they delivered it to me. So it’s a option I know for sure. Thanks for the great Videos. Keep up the good work!
@rsmstuff3178
@rsmstuff3178 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, is the valve a John Deere brand or an aftermarket one? Just wondering since my dealer was not able to provide me the information.
@railroadmims
@railroadmims 2 жыл бұрын
@@rsmstuff3178 not sure but mine has worked great very happy I purchased it and the av20F grapple.
@railroadmims
@railroadmims 2 жыл бұрын
@@rsmstuff3178 this is what was listed on my invoice: ONE TOUCH-300E HYDRAULIC KIT VALVE JOYSTICK INSTALLED FOR FRONT HYDRAULICS
@thomasburton5843
@thomasburton5843 Жыл бұрын
I have a 3025e. On my 3 function I had problems. If you take a small screw driver you should be able to manually make your grapple work. Just push the center of the shift. You can do both ends. Once I manuallycycled mine a few times it started working. Worth a try if it happens again yo you. Mine is a W L Long 3rd function. They have trouble shooting videos. I also run a wicked 55 from everything attachments on mine. The more you use your grapple the more you will find uses for it.
@rsmstuff3178
@rsmstuff3178 Жыл бұрын
I tried that and it still didn’t work. Yes the more that use the grapple the more uses that I find for it.
@TDC_Dragon
@TDC_Dragon Жыл бұрын
This happened to me as well with a Summit third function kit for a JD 2038R. Summit sent me a replacement valve and I used it once a few weeks ago. Went to use it again yesterday and the grapple would close but not open. I swapped the hydraulic lines at the top of the valve and both open and close functions work, however that is backwards. By swapping the hydraulic lines I am using Tank to squeeze any logs or large rocks and there is not sufficient power. It snaps open quickly but no power closing and holding. I need to contact Summit again tomorrow. Frustrating that these valves evidently don't hold up.
@rsmstuff3178
@rsmstuff3178 Жыл бұрын
I agree. I did read somewhere that they need to be cycled. So I have started pressing the buttons each time I use the tractor in hopes it will work the next time it is needed.
@TDC_Dragon
@TDC_Dragon Жыл бұрын
@@rsmstuff3178 I was able to disassemble the valve and polish it up using a Dremel with a felt polishing pad and it started working again!
@swashington942
@swashington942 Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised you haven't turned up the hydro pressure
@rsmstuff3178
@rsmstuff3178 Жыл бұрын
The tractor is still under warranty. Once out of warranty then I may try some things.
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