Yeah it's just nice to see how the alternative would have been, it's just loads of fun. Believe me and I tried to bring that across in the video. 🤝🤝🤝 Glad you enjoyed it.

Trust me, there's nothing the same about the power band characteristics. the FA20 is an absolute snooze-fest up to redline, while the BEAMS is very flat and progressive with how power comes on and becomes increasingly savage the more you rev it out.

Definitely, it sounds more better using itbs

I'll never forgive em for sticking a shitty subaru boxer in something that should've had a high strung inline 4, such a damn shame

Totally!!! 🤝🤝🤝

Agreed!

Nah. Yanks would say they should've had LS engines from day 1.

@@snmrz this yank thinks ls1s belong in corvettes and camaros along with custom built tube frame race cars/trucks!

@@scottchelmford7136 well maybe we're both the minority.

This is the best type of comments to receive.❤️

💯 percent, thanks Wong. 😎🤝 It adds a whole element of fun to that car.

3sgte*

Paying some true Homage to the AE86. 🤝🤝🤝

For now I'm making 163kw and 220nm but I changed the exhaust and with the next tune I should be pushing up the torque

Nice one Kurt, truly impressed.

@@Avocado1_Avocado2 that's the power to the floor? If so, very good numbers, it would make it just as quick if not quicker than s2000 since I think the gt86 would be a little lighter. I know by experience that a stock s2000 is much quicker feeling than a stock gt86 lol. I was thinking of stuffing a Beams in a 72' 510, but I like this too, if I find a blown engine frs/gt86 I might look into this : )

@@seblo8462 sorry for the late reply that power I made on the day a S2000 was on the dyno aswell and he made less than what I did. I don't drag this car but it would be interesting to see how it goes against a S2000

Happy that most people agree with the point we made in this video and they can see why this engine is a logical alternative. 🤝😁

Toyota had to use a boxer from Subaru as part of the joint venture. And Subaru was never gonna put a boxer in a car that was better than what was in the WRX

@@adampandit4326 true yes, with the deal they signed they agreed to have the boxer engine in there as it was the economical decision.

Only thing is those motors have been out of production for 16 years now

It went well and my 86 will go well in my GT check out the channel 🇯🇵🔥🇯🇵🔥🇯🇵

I mean, one of Toyota's best features are it's engines.

So glad you agree with the point we were bringing across, it's just so we'll coupled to the chassis and adds more fun to the car and that's always a good thing. Glad you enjoyed it brother. 🤝💪

I can guarantee there is something awesome on the cards for this car next. 😎😁💪

It's got a nice burble and growl to it.

Thanks Kev, you and me both.🔥🔥🔥

Totally appreciate this comment, for the car and the video. 🤲💪🤝

Totally!

It's one of my dream builds too, that's why I was soo excited to have some time reviewing this car. This build is so worthit and thanks for the compliment on the video as well. 🙌🙌🙌🤝🤝🤝😎

@@akeelhassanvideo one day is one day bro💪💪💪. That 86 Night Run video you made is still one my favorites also bra especially hearing that 1jz Boost!

@@steyno7471 that is raw power yes and that thing was crazy fast but I think that conversion costs around R 150 000 plus and that was around the time I shot that video so well into R 200 000 now with the price of the motor alone being R 65 000. I also wish people would watch that video more. lol

Great minds think alike 😎

This engine has all the fun. 👌

Thanks Duwain, it was so worth the wait.

That's all we wanted we wanted Toyota to do from the factory hey. 🤝

Thanks man, however I had to make a decision on sitting with two different clutches and modify the bellhousing was going to cost me more than what I paid for the gearbox, so it wasn't something I was prepared for.

That's it! 🤘😎

Really happy that you enjoyed the video. 😎😎😎

True it's got such good balance and is really focused on the driver having a great experience.

Thank you so much Slam Culture Media, really excited for these next few months. 🤲🤝

@@akeelhassanvideo awesome man we looking forward brother 🙌you always give us exiting content

Appreciate it man 🤲💪💯

Glad you enjoyed the video. 😁 It's all the fun.

Thanks Byron, like I know the 3S-GE would have struggled to pass emissions in some countries but it could have been a really strong contender if they looked to redesign it for that purpose. Glad you agree man. 🤝💪💯

The sound is half of the driving experience as they say. 😁😜

I can't wait to see your one. 🤝 All the best with your build as well brother. 💪

Yeah man, it's lively 😁

Thank you so much Luqmaan, will keep them coming.

The engine has this roar on throttle and then a nice burble when you come off it.

@@akeelhassanvideo fr fr

I think it's because that's the sound of power. 😁😁😜😜🤣🤣🤣

All 3SGE sound great with an intake and exhaust 🤘🏻

@@benjalex89 oooof specially with a ITB kit🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤

The dual vvts

You know! Like imagine the 3s-ge in all aluminum and it met the new emissions standards.

@@akeelhassanvideo and also with direct gasoline injection!

dankie brother 🙏🏼

Truly appreciate this, I actually told the owner of this car that this is my best review so far in my opinion.

Much appreciated my brother. 💪😁

How did you manage to overcome the space issue in the hilux, did you end up going ITB's?

Totally, but to save a lot of costs Toyota has been pairing up with a lot of manufacturers lately with some of their smaller cars like the starlet and Agya.

@@akeelhassanvideo I mean in all fairness didn't Yamaha have a big hand in making the 3SGE? If so technically Toyota still wouldn't've made all the bits on this

@@williammememan6002 100 percent correct yes Yamaha came in with development on the cylinder head of the 3S-GE. 😁

It is balanced yes, plus the extra mid-range torque helps.

Thanks brother 😎🤘🔥

Thanks Zaylan, so I asked the owner about that as well, the 3S-GE is quite a few kilograms lighter, and actually sits closer to the firewall with is good for weight balance, but obviously like you say it's changed but in a good way with driving feel and torque through the rev range.

I think most people would have too, but strategic partnerships lead us to have it with the FA20 boxer. Fuel constrictions in South Africa also had a part to play as they needed a more fuel efficient powerplant.

Thank you so much. 🤘🤘🤘🤝🤝🤝

I won't say problem is power if I wanted power I would have gone with a 2jz or something but then I loose the cars dynamics which I really wanted to keep. If you want power out of a beams you can buy rods and pistons ect and boost it to make about 400 like you say and your budget will be the same as a 2jz. However driving the two cars will show you the big difference how well does it handle around bends ect.

You see, you and I speak the same language. Totally agree with what you're saying it has more options available to it in this platform.

@@akeelhassanvideo exactly said , funny thing is people always mention other swaps and don’t even know of this legendary 3SGE and I’m like why? This powerful engine and turbocharged even better ! It’s powerful. Def the way to go and I’m glad to see somebody putting it out there , funny thing is I planning to get Toyota 86 and I want swap in 3SGE engine to begin with, it just cost a lot of money 💰 something I lack as is😎 this is def not easy project and I know it will have it hurdles🧨. Great to see this , keep it up and posted 👍

@@Sol_chaser92 honestly this was my first time swapping an engine and doing wiring with management and I was shocked at how smooth it went. Yes I had problems during the build but I had friends I could ask for assistance. Never under estimate yourself, you might just surprise yourself. Just a heads up I'm a draughtsman not a mechanic

@@Avocado1_Avocado2 👍 nice ! Swaps is heavy job no matter how you look at it . Trial and error , I was always hoping to see within past years that somebody do this swap and generate great results , this def answers my questions . I know now what to expect and maybe if I have worked my ass off I can do this too . Thanks again .

@@Sol_chaser92 I wish you all the best when you do engine swop your GT86. Sometimes the best options are overlooked and the 3S-GE engines are very bulletproof when the engine tune is good.

Thanks so much Waseem 💪🤝🤗

Hi it is the Beams box the 86 box will push the motor too far forward

There we go, answer from the owner himself 🤙

It weighs slightly less makes more power, more torque and has a wider Rev range. 😉

@@akeelhassanvideo a first gen BEAMs? You sure about that?

@@salloroc20 not first gen, G1 BEAMS, so G1 is the first of the Dual VVT-i BEAMS or "blacktop" BEAMS

@@salloroc20 beams motor weighs 143kg and FA20 is 171kg around this figure

There are many minor things too look at and clearances below the motor I have seen you using the 86 transmission which I would not use as it pushes the motor forward, mine sits as close too the firewall as possible helping with handling

I used the altezza transmission for the swap on the ae86 and it’s going to go on the GT

So true man, it's the perfect case of what could've been, if regulations allowed. 🤝

Hi because I don't majority of the work myself I spent about 65k however after selling the motor and other stuff it came to more than half of that price

@@Avocado1_Avocado2 Hi Kurt, do you have an Instagram since I am interested in this build and I need more information

SampsonTRD I have not loaded all my photos and videos of this build yet

Yes indeed!

We're on the same wavelength here. 🤝🤝🤝

Thanks for understanding where I was coming from. 🤝💪

Thank you! 😊

Iv never driven an altezza, so I won't be able to tell you man

Yeah we unfortunately did not get the altezza in South Africa.

Am trying to convince myself that it's the same cause I drive a 3S Altezza 😂.... I wish I could get more power out of it... But in Zambia, no one tunes...

@@mr.champs5957 maybe with some better flowing exhaust you can extract some more power man, it's a pity no one tunes there. You got an awesome base to start modifications from.

Yeah we tried to eliminate the boxer sound. However I am changing too single exit exhaust and hopefully that works

@@Avocado1_Avocado2 i like how it sounds and looks stealth actualy. Single tip will be mad tho. Nice build guys!!

Thanks man, for now I'm kinda digging the stealth sound of it and when you Rev past 7 the beams sounds start to come out

Hey Guss, no problem. Which side of the world are you from?

@@akeelhassanvideo George Western Cape! SA my bro! hehe

@@Guss2052 lovely man, CAW, the owner Kurt is quite active in the comments so I'm sure he'll pop a reply here soon.

@@akeelhassanvideo Oki sweet!

Both are great choices in my opinion

The gt86 transmission was used with a modification to the selector. I'm sure if you package it correctly in the engine pay, smaller AC pump and condensor you can have working AC.

Hi Timothy, the ECU master, emu black was used for this conversion so I would research that. I'm sure it plugged into the existing infrastructure and had to be setup to read the codes.

Ecumaster already included the 86 canbus in its software

@@TheMrsampson1 true, so it's pnp then

Yes that's you there in the white t-shirt. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@@akeelhassanvideo damn thank you once again for including me in the video akeel 🙏🏼

Only a pleasure brother. 💪

Standard motor with the addition of an aftermarket exhaust that flows better, so I guess it's in the 160kw mark. I'm not sure if the owner has dynoed it since.

Standard engine mounts off the shelf? To alternator, ac, etc mounting brackets swap over with the BEAMS? Does shifter line up with the stock location? Trans mounts andriveshaft? @@akeelhassanvideo

Hi most of the swap was straight forward. Mounts are custom made as for the gear lever I mentioned in the video was altered too sit properly, for the dyno I have only done it once as I do not have problems with it. AC wiring is something I worked out how to do and it took me a acouple of weeks too sort out its not information I openly disclose

2zz is also a very good option, will take some fabrication though.

Hi Neko I find the car abit lighter on fuel on daily driving. I have no drive shaft issues and I am running on Potenza 003

Yes it does

Brilliant

@@msh4292like i said its important to me to keep it stock inside the car but with spice

Yes!!!

Hi Clinton, the price of engines have gone up recently. Difficult to say with this one as the owner did most of the modifications himself and the only costs were parts.

60k without labour

Costs might be off the charts however currently the car cost 600k plus which is already off the charts as for weight the beams is lighter than the boxer motor

@@Avocado1_Avocado2 It's not about weight though, it's about center of gravity and weight distribution. The beams will throw that off entirely and handling capabilities will be reduced. Of course you won't feel that on public roads but driving it at the limit you definitely would feel a difference.

@@Pynoxim1 correct my mistake in saying weight, 👍

That would actually be an interesting comparison, pity we didn't get any Altezza's locally and the is200's here are 6cylinder cars.

@@akeelhassanvideo you mean the 2JZ's only? Dang well boost up and show em N.A power can keep up

Yeah so is 200 here came with the 1G-FE, which is a 2.0 liter 6 cylinder N/A and then the IS 300 came with the N/A version of the 2JZ motor.

It's running Naturally Aspirated for now.

See, me and you, we're on the same wavelength. 😎💪🤝

It's got got that growl!

That's actually a good question, I don't think so to my knowledge. 🤔

It can work, I mean if people are able to put a k swap in a Rx7 then it should be able to go in that platform too.

I added English closed captions to the video as well, because the mic levels weren't as high as I thought.

I sometimes think what would a 2zz-ge engine be like in a GT86.

@@akeelhassanvideo i think it would be very quick maybe under 5 seconds because yoh lift is legendary

@@Shikshame you could be right and nice driver engagement through the gears to keep it in lift.

I meant to say 3S-GE powered GT86 lol

@@akeelhassanvideo cool no worries

All good brother. 🤝💯

I totally understand where you're coming from and the FA20 was a good strategic decision and the best economical way to build this car from the factory and a manufacturer perspective. This is however from the owner's perspective with torque on tap all the way through and the 3S-GE engine is lighter.

Aftermarket Standalone ECU, the owner gives more detail about this in the video when he talks.

It's more power, 160kw at the moment, stock boxer is 147kw at 7000rpm redline. The 3SGE allows for a higher redline at 8500rpm, but the response is better throughout the Rev range. 😉 Plus there is some more power to be made out of this car as it stands with some exhaust system changes that could put it in the 170kw mark.

@@akeelhassanvideo ok cool...looks fun to drive

I mean, this is great and all that but it literally is all the same. A remapped GT86 already makes 160kw so I mean, it wasn't much of an upgrade, just a side-grade. Again, it's cool and all, something different I suppose.

@@Pynoxim1 sometimes it's not all about the numbers it's the way the car feels. Think of this video done on this car as part one of the R&D for people who are also contemplating this. I know you do some crazy conversions yourself so you'll like where part two of this is going. 🤝

@@akeelhassanvideo Does it include things that spin really REALLY fast causing positive pressure to be gently persuaded into the intake manifold? If so then I'm all ears. Also I understand the concept behind doing an engine swap but generally within reason. If it was to get a particular sound out of it then the BEAMS makes perfect sense. If it was for power then it doesn't. Of course without knowing the owners true intention all I can do is sit here and speculate. I do appreciate the time, effort and work that has gone into the build though, it's never easy doing a conversion and props to the owner for going to an actual good ECU. EMU black really is a treat to work with and installing it on a Mk4 Supra the other day gave me an amazing perspective on just how much of a difference a good ECU makes. Anyhow, amazing video man, it's always good to see local car channels on the up and up and I do wish you all the best on your run to 20k subscribers and beyond. PS : I'm grumpy today due to lack of sleep so apologies if my comments come off very off-side.

I love your sense of humor

Allan you more than welcome to come buy them by me. As I do have plans on replacing it

I think maybe the owner can confirm. I'm not sure it was a long time back.

I'll definitely let the owner know the kind words or he may even comment here soon, but yes it's using the original gearbox and the start button still works as well which is awesome. 😎🤝 That's part of the reason I had to feature this car.

@@akeelhassanvideo bro if you have whatsapp 0764754829 id like to know how the motor and box were paired like do i have to get a 3gse bell housing and will it mount to my gearbox or make an adapter plate... Please advise

I can't remember bro, this video was a long while back.

I think I'm not going to even bother explaining that yes it's a different engine and obviously changes the dynamics, but in a good way and the 3S-GE engine is lighter. I know the center of gravity isn't as low anymore but you have some more power being pushed out with this package in the name of development and going a different route.

thanks for the comment

Hey I use afrihost man🤝

But not Rain?

@@nazirjones3608 rain is stupidly bad when it comes to download speed!! Stay far away!!!!!!!!!...

Rain is junk speed 2mbps but depends where u live

160Kw and 220 Nm there is more information about the setup in the description.

🤣🤣🤣I'm loving these comments. Thank you. 😁😁😁🔥🔥🔥

Hey brother, pop me a message on my Facebook page: facebook.com/hpavs Are you based in Cape Town?

They are 17inch wheels bro.

@@akeelhassanvideo stock gears as well? 4.10?

@@joseanvi correct stock gear set and GT86 box with a slight modification on the selector, but the same ratios.

@@akeelhassanvideothanks for the quick responses. Currently putting one in a Isuzu pickup.

@@joseanvi always here for my fans man, wishing you all the best on your build. Remember the power of the motor is in the tune that you put in it. You got this. 🤝🤝🤝

Thanks Ali Bhai 🤝🤝🤝

@@akeelhassanvideo love from Pakistan brother 😘🌹

@@ALIHAIDER-gg2bz I truly appreciate it.🙏🙏🙏

@@akeelhassanvideo where are you from

@@ALIHAIDER-gg2bz South Africa

The owner says in the video.

Londeka it's a ecumaster emu black

@@Avocado1_Avocado2 you get bonus points for being the only owner that replies to all the comments on his car. 😎😎😁😁🤘🤘🤘