4 Easy Ways to Grind Tungsten for TIG Welding

4 Easy Ways to Grind Tungsten for TIG Welding | TIG Time

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In this episode of TIG Time, Wyatt will be demonstrating four ways to effectively grind Tungsten for TIG welding. There are many different ways, but in this episode we tried to pick some ways that will fit everyone's budget. So if you are just getting into welding as a hobby or you are an experienced welder; this episode has something for you.
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@Welddotcom 11 жыл бұрын

When grinding a point on the end of your tungsten, you sometimes leave a small "tail" that will release into the molten weld puddle at first arc initiation. To prevent this contaminant from happening, merely lightly touch the end of the tungsten to create a small flat (or in this case we ground it) and you will get consistent arc starts. Thanks for watching TIG Time.

@dilly_dallys 3 жыл бұрын

I saw that lol kool.

@hanks1992 4 жыл бұрын

When I saw you sharpening the tungsten in the "grab" direction on the grinding stone I thought this was about to be a safety video.

@TerrenceLP 3 жыл бұрын

Well done Mr TIG, always love when you get tiggy with it!

@GrandpaBill 11 жыл бұрын

It's clear he has more of a 'hate' toward the chemical sharpner... it was like watching an info-mercial bashing the product.... I've used that powder since the early '70's and you sure DON'T need to push the cup into the powder AT ALL! Pull the tungsten out about a 3/4" or 1" - heat - then dip JUST the 'tip' of the tungsten into the powder a 1/4" to a MAX of 1/2" - Wipe it off; adjust sitck-out and go!!! Grandpa Bill (A welder since 1963; held 7 certified welding cards since 1975)

@djmjr77 4 жыл бұрын

I thought the same thing .. lol .. thought he was gonna push it in to the back cap .. could have adjusted the stickout and no more griping... lol .. and notice he priced everything except his "industrial" grinder

@randyreed1117 4 жыл бұрын

Exactly, I never get crud on my cup as I do just like you said, never had a problem getting it all over the cup, collet ....easy to do and love the stuff, works great

@mauirandall8176 4 жыл бұрын

You know if you don't adjust the stick out at all and try to take the tungsten to a grinder while it's still in the gun you probably going to have the same problem. The one option that didn't spread heavy metal powder all over the place he had the nerve to call "a bit messy"

@drayofchilastra 2 жыл бұрын

Ive been tigging about a week and I've never heard or seen anyone dunk a cup in chemsharp. Maybe he's been tigging less 😄

@cantthinkanameup 10 жыл бұрын

Use a cordless drill to grind your tungsten on the bench grinder....spins it for you and easier to move the tungsten around on the wheel to avoid putting deep grooves in one spot.

@SergioMSarza-fi5hj 11 жыл бұрын

thanks very much. Its really educative.

@Sicktrickintuner 11 жыл бұрын

Picked up a diamond blade at homedepot for 4 bucks, put it on my 4.5 angle grinder and works well.

@SouthernIroc85 11 жыл бұрын

Belt sander with 80 grit and a cordless drill. Enjoy your videos! Keep on burnin!

@2112superfly 11 жыл бұрын

very helpful!

@morperformance 11 жыл бұрын

This is exactly how I do it, works excellent, you also learn to dip and come out with a very nice taper and point.

@ryanerivez2055 11 жыл бұрын

ohhhh, tnxz mr tig, i really appriciate the tip, keep it up broda

@Welddotcom 11 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Be sure to let us know if there is anything you want to see in some of the upcoming episodes.

@smithsterj 11 жыл бұрын

Love the videos

@Britdetector 7 жыл бұрын

Why not use a simple battery angle grinder (keeping a dedicated wheel of course) ? Any reason not to ?

@loftsatsympaticodotc 2 жыл бұрын

How come no discussion of tip included-angle? At 6:36, Degrees seem to be calibrated on the rotary guide head of your "Turbo-Sharp X" industrial tip grinder. Can you please elaborate on this and explain the effect of different angles on electron flow, and wear on the tip? (oops, I see you DO have another video on angles. Thanks.)

@tcschuett 9 жыл бұрын

I had the same question as "spelunkerd" how long should a newly sharpened tungsten last? thanks

@Welddotcom 11 жыл бұрын

Well of course I'm right! When grinding downward, you can still get the correct grinding direction, but it is difficult to see the angle of the grind. Thanks for watching TIG Time. Mr. Tig

@tornadokat 3 жыл бұрын

Makes sense if you should dedicate a bench grinder wheel just for this to prevent contamination, why not just get a 120 so you have the right grit for your dedicated wheel.

@HotIsotope 3 жыл бұрын

What was the cost of the "Industrial" sharpener with the Protraction degree marks on it?

@smithsterj 11 жыл бұрын

Magnesium welding would be interesting.

@TonySopeano46 Жыл бұрын

I work in a body shop and work collegues use tungsten grindwheels for just about any kind of metal there is, however they don't use the side of it, is it really that bad to use the side of the wheel?

@georgiojansen7758 8 жыл бұрын

I use my angle grinder grind it rough wrong than finish wright....2,4mm is my favourite heavy enough to throw out easily if you have setup the inner parts like I do properly.....goedendag

@47indianrider 5 жыл бұрын

Why not remove the Tungsen needle and hold it with pliers when doing a chem sharp treatment? No need to clean the head but you do need an external heat source like a propane or Mapp gas to heat the Tungsen.

@MrStalito 11 жыл бұрын

exellent

@bronsonstephens5799 6 жыл бұрын

I Used My Angle Grinder the Other Day. Can I Do That?

@pauldow1648 4 жыл бұрын

Should grind wheel be aluminum oxide or silicone ?

@spelunkerd 11 жыл бұрын

I've been working on trying to keep the tip close to lower heat and trying to not contaminate the tip. I've tried to limit the stickout of the tip to 1/4" proud of the cup. Even with all that, I seem to need to resharpen ever few welds. Using 3/32" 2% thoriated, on mild 1/8"steel, DC neg, precision tig 225. Any other ideas? Is it normal to need to resharpen so often?

@boe3247 2 жыл бұрын

Just giving away free gold thank-you Mr.Tig

@stoneyprowell2601 Жыл бұрын

Ware can I find that jar of chem grind

@jasonwoody8041 2 жыл бұрын

Those handheld grinders are ideal to me but ludicrously overpriced.

@Mrsvetsare 11 жыл бұрын

You say in video that it shuld grind up and miller says down? so who are right?

@doctorxring 11 жыл бұрын

You klutz. Take the tungsten out of the torch first, then heat up the tungsten with a propane torch, immerse in the chemical sharpener, wipe off, re-insert in torch with a perfect point on the tungsten.

@ke0kie 4 жыл бұрын

not sure how I feel about grinding upward point on downward spinning wheel...hand better not flinch

@Migman2020 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah one wrong move and that rod can get rammed up inside your hand.. Im not risking that

@Patdog130 2 жыл бұрын

@@Migman2020 put it in a drill chuck and hold it on there

@Migman2020 2 жыл бұрын

@@Patdog130 lol no...

@scubasteve4sq 11 жыл бұрын

chuck your tungsten up in a cordless drill before you put it on the grinding wheel for a perfect tip. no need to buy those crappy grinders

@mauirandall8176 4 жыл бұрын

Honestly the jar of powder despite you saying it's messy seems like the cleanest option cuz you don't spread heavy metal all over the place all you need to do is not dunk your whole gun into it just like you wouldn't take your whole gun to a grinder, you know sometimes these jars come with that same tungsten holder that you displayed earlier in the video, it's entirely your choice to get powder all over the cup that's not inherent of the product like getting carcinogenic heavy metal powder all over the place is an inherent unavoidable aspect of seemingly every other product you showed.

@dallasdavis3246 5 жыл бұрын

how about just slamming the whole rig in the chem sharp almost what you did

@ryanerivez2055 11 жыл бұрын

why do u put a fin flat tip on the tungsten?

@pbgd3 5 жыл бұрын

Hot safety tip. Heavy metals are dense but also toxic. Just because its called heavy doesnt mean the dust droops out of the air.

@CubaVids 11 жыл бұрын

Tungsten is a heavy metal but the 2% 'other' stuff in tig rods is radioactive. Also, after sharpening you should put a SMALL flat end on it. Cheers.

@gaz0463 6 жыл бұрын

Can I use a pencil sharpener lol

@mauirandall8176 4 жыл бұрын

Of course you can't use a pencil sharpener. it would leave radial grinding marks, duh

@TheManLab7 3 жыл бұрын

Someone who also watches ToT

@lablue350 10 жыл бұрын

You don't get a better tip if you use a drill to hold the tungsten? Thanks. I am a newbie trying to learn something

@Jarboe420 8 жыл бұрын

+lablue350 yes you do

@jamjam7819 5 жыл бұрын

Thats how we do it in our shop .

@sheemondallasgeorgia 4 жыл бұрын

Noise effects are annoying. So are the "Breaking Plate" visuals. Presentations are very professional but too short. Otherwise, good contents.

@owenjohnson5030 7 жыл бұрын

Why not grind on the side of the wheel. I have some expensive wheels on my slow speed grinder I use for sharpening my wood lathe tools. I don't want to contaminate my tungsten. Nor do I want a groove on the face of my wheel. So I've been grinding on the side of the wheel to avoid both problems. What am I introducing by grinding on the side as long as I grind in a spot where the wheel and tungsten are parallel to each other?

@areyouavinalaughisheavinal5328 6 жыл бұрын

grinding with the side of the wheel is a big mistake, you're weakening the integrity of your wheel. you've got that spinning mass going at 30k rpm and it already wants to expand due to centrifugal force... you weaken the side and you're heading for a face full of grinding wheel fragments. wearing a groove in the side of the wheel is like weakening spokes of a bike wheel... ya wouldn't wanna ride that bike on the highway.... aside from that, grindwheels aren't designed to take side load.

@loftsatsympaticodotc 2 жыл бұрын

@@areyouavinalaughisheavinal5328 DISAGREE! Firstly Owen Johnson said "slow speed grinder" so where on earth do you find 30,000 rpm??. A regular bench grinder runs a standard hi-speed NEMA design motor @ 3450 rpm. Secondly, the side load is negligible for a single row radial ball bearing. As far as wearing a groove and 'weakening the abrasive matrix"... sure... if you appreciably thin the wheel... though experience tells me that the particle matrix has no particular orientation to 'weaken' the structure, whether up, down or sideways. I have almost never seen a grinding wheel weakended from side load, in 40 years of machine shop visits as part of my job. Conclusion, a tiny Ti sharpening from time to time in a welding job shop, will also... be negligible from a safety standpoint.

@user-zs1ix7di4d 6 жыл бұрын

Is there any kind of Tangesten which does not cause Cancer ?

@v8trauma 5 жыл бұрын

Memo1977 Bag Shani non of them cause cancer if you get the apprentice to sharpen them for you.

@douglasbutler4360 2 жыл бұрын

Thoriated tungsten is slightly radioactive from the thorium. None of the others are.

@dansalibi7466 8 жыл бұрын

um use a longer stick out for the chem sharp lol not rocket science

@ericbrooks9355 4 жыл бұрын

Hey, you cant challenge " MR Tig"... LOL

@dilly_dallys 3 жыл бұрын

That sounds like a good point, but I’d be cognizant of electrode contamination due to cup size to electrode stick out.

@haydenmackiewicz8221 3 жыл бұрын

Maybe not shove the whole tungsten in with the Chem Sharp

@StevenAndrews 6 жыл бұрын

Anyone that has access to a 3d printer can easily print a head for your demel like the industrial grinders. Cheap diamond grinder wheel on Amazon and you're set.

@1969darr 2 жыл бұрын

60 grit flapper disk is best, just don't put the rod through yur palm. Ask me how I know.

@richardpowell9906 4 жыл бұрын

use ox. , acetylene torch to sharpen

@richardpowell9906 4 жыл бұрын

it works uses lots tungsten so what I don't buy

@MrTimmmers 3 жыл бұрын

Get the tungsten red with a blowtorch, then no big cleanup required.

@dallasdavis3246 5 жыл бұрын

another way they didnt mention is using a acetylene torch and burning the tungsten to a point

@jimbob33ism 2 жыл бұрын

Mr who! !!

@Dionkrab 8 жыл бұрын

Why grinding a flat spot on tungsten, just to get a more stable arc ?

@Dionkrab 8 жыл бұрын

also i go from left to right so the grinder won't get the grooves in the wheel

@RCRCustoms 6 жыл бұрын

Dion to ball the end of the tungsten for AC on a transformer machine.

@Brainmalfuction 10 жыл бұрын

1/8 Walter grinding wheel on a 5" grinder and a cordless drill problem solved

@GrandpaBill 11 жыл бұрын

Now Let's compare costs! 10 bucks for the powder or 300+ for those hand grinders.... HHHHMMM??? I'll stay with the powder! Grandpa Bill

@samehali60 5 жыл бұрын

How i can tranclet arbic ples

@alexandercira9233 2 жыл бұрын

😢 you are miss

@r777v 2 жыл бұрын

I started to cringe when you used the Chem Sharp. Next time put the tungsten in a chuck, and heat it with a torch, butane propane whatever till it is cherry or hot enough and quickly dip it in and out of the powder . Much better results and clean up not an issue!

@GrandpaBill 11 жыл бұрын

Portablity for on the job??? His expensive hand held grinders -- HHHMMM??? Don't all portable welders have at least one 110V outlet built right into the welder... mine had 110V and 220V outlets. So why couldn't he take them out to the job? Grandpa Bill

@TheManLab7 3 жыл бұрын

I think many people will agree with me but those sharpeners are fucking useless. I've always used a bench grinder buy I only do it for a hobby. But that all depends on what's in the tungsten. But I always set up a hoover as close as possible to collect as much of the dust as possible, even if it isn't radioactive. I do use a ginger counter so I can check, as my cats go in there and I don't want them getting radiation sickness and possibly dying. I think £20 for a dremel with an attachment screwed on the front, with a zirconium wheel, well. If your that stupid and you wanna waste your money, when you can but loads of other tools and bits which will come in much more useful. Like magnetic guage blocks

@blackwoodfromacton 3 жыл бұрын

At the beginning of the video you sad you would say what your favorite was but at the end you don't even mention it?

@TheMetalWarrior1993 8 жыл бұрын

I've actually gotten a way better point for the tungsten in the very first grinding technique that you did where you say you are doing it wrong. I seen people doing it vertical to where you say it is the correct way, and they still don't get as fine as a point as I do.

@TheBdt100 8 жыл бұрын

+TheMetalWarrior1993 apparently its about the grind marks running with the tungsten not against will still work apparently but can mess with the arc from what i understand

@dc85337 2 жыл бұрын

Its the GRIND MARKS (GRAIN DIRECTION) that is the problem. Not just the shape. I've seen other vids that demonstrate this phenomenon. It's the grind marks themselves that cause the problems.

@chokobass225 8 жыл бұрын

how do you cut the tungsten in two pieces perfectly

@Welddotcom 8 жыл бұрын

+Carlos Rodriguez snap it quickly over a hard surface

@loftsatsympaticodotc 2 жыл бұрын

Close your eyes and pray, then hit with a big hammer. ;-)

@shaunbrown1402 2 жыл бұрын

Something you should know, tungsten tig rods have a high level of radiation in them, breathing just 1 partial could cause cancer.

@DiscountDivorcePhotography 2 жыл бұрын

Only the Thorium rods (red mark) are radioactive....and you could say one wiff of the SMAW fume plume COULD cause cancer....the rad rods are safe enough to be sold and used....dont put them in your mouth, but one wiff isnt goint to kill you.