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@bryanrichard67043 жыл бұрын
chocolate zaaaayyneee
@bryanrichard67043 жыл бұрын
(some stay dry and others feel the pain)
@pompomboom71113 жыл бұрын
Vanilla harry
@AlessFD3 жыл бұрын
strawberry niall
@StarrshProductions3 жыл бұрын
green and carter
@pratik03003 жыл бұрын
Tells to pick a mid that has a spirit in their name. Me: *picks Spirit Breaker*
@OppositeOfMute3 жыл бұрын
Vengeful Spirit
@flarkoy3 жыл бұрын
still doesn't gank
@josephreynolds24013 жыл бұрын
@@OppositeOfMute Topson did VS mid a couple patches ago. In pubs tho
@abhishekrawat67043 жыл бұрын
@@josephreynolds2401 he picked it in tournament also😂
@DUKEHadToDoItToEm3 жыл бұрын
@@OppositeOfMute VS mid isn't even that bad though
@georgegorospejr.68953 жыл бұрын
I can ward the whole map as a support and end up getting blamed by a core dying in the dewarded place of the map.
@jinkianlee3 жыл бұрын
wardin is just like havin a small action durin walkin no big action or motive like walkin alone and place it
@jinkianlee3 жыл бұрын
it would be a top notch wardin if u place a obs wards durin a fight so keep one obs durin smoke
@yagoosidol63383 жыл бұрын
i once have a team that flames me when i begged them to help me deward. not saying to buy sentry, just walk with me as the enemies are aiming for me dewarding. but they just stay farming, all 4 of them.
@georgegorospejr.68953 жыл бұрын
@@yagoosidol6338 i feel you bro.
@jinkianlee3 жыл бұрын
@@yagoosidol6338 that should be fine just farm at lane if all ur carries farmin jug u make space a bit ( dont die ) . dota is a situational game wardin and dewardin not the only thing u can do in dota. if can do that so , u could have stack , farm at lane ( close to ur carry ) , plant obs . Just deward it after winnin a clean fight will do because your carries also dont wanna risk their life to a no vision area
@AncalimeTom3 жыл бұрын
1:22 Antimage arriving at an empty jungle camp. I felt that.
@cem4813 жыл бұрын
Same, then u have to go deep for a creep wave then you die. Coz they taking all jungle like shit
@user-ti2xi9bd4u3 жыл бұрын
Ez
@primemeridian49383 жыл бұрын
Trench is deep my dudes
@helloeveryone01233 жыл бұрын
i played antimage for the first time recently. i got to say, its pretty fun. i never get to farm in my own jungle, cause its always taken, so i had to farm in enemy jungle 50% of the time. placed the observers in enemy jungle myself, since thats the only space i can find. at least i won the game.
@JJpaa3 жыл бұрын
That just make me happy. everyone play useless mage
@Kovu27273 жыл бұрын
When I subscribe to Jenkins I am essentially just giving my money to the homeless. Therefore it is a charity and I feel good about myself, thanks Jenkins.
@jameslarimer9211 Жыл бұрын
It's like my granpappy always said, "Never trust a hobo in a tie."
@FlaShDominic3 жыл бұрын
Everything said here is myths and old legends for SEA. There are still people in the game who play mid and ask for wards even though they are free (observer)
@valentinpopescu983 жыл бұрын
moj jam you know what always works for me if they bought wards before me and I need them? “Bro can you give me ward please? I need for runes mid” so far it didn’t work only 1 time when they were pretty retarded from the get go, supports bought wards and when I asked they said they need and they put them in side lanes, not even in the spots to see jungle too. They then got jelly and put it on them, like 4 and 5. What a horrible line I had, non stop ganking, no runes, enemy mid was farming my medium camp beside radiant mid
@mahendrank33913 жыл бұрын
@@valentinpopescu98 you can buy another ward at 1.30 still early enough to check the rune. Not saying that's how it should be, just a convenient workaround for retard teammates
@mahendrank33913 жыл бұрын
That's just 5 mmr midlaners, regardless of server
@valentinpopescu983 жыл бұрын
Mahendran K I know you can but they spam right click on it and still buy it. I’m 4,5k FYI, you what 1k?
@045_bharatpowar73 жыл бұрын
u cant practice correct dota in sea and if u do u gona get reported
@luirene64803 жыл бұрын
Me who dont even play dota 2 anymore: Hmm. Yes I learned something on something i dont play anymore
@westboy523 жыл бұрын
Haha exactly my case
@fauzanarisyikoto34183 жыл бұрын
Exactly my case too haha
@westboy523 жыл бұрын
@@fauzanarisyikoto3418 So I've started playing again. That's what binge-watching DotA videos does to you.
@KerbosYT3 жыл бұрын
"don't feed 7 deaths by 10 minutes" *sweat in pos 5*
@phunweng9623 жыл бұрын
You need to value your life more as a support actually
@hackerman45823 жыл бұрын
early? absolutely. Late? nah man throw yourself at them as long as your ult is on CD respawn timers still count towards freezing field time
@WhitePerson-3 жыл бұрын
the most annoying thing is when supports kill the camps at the 10th second of the new minute. Like... FUCK YOU MAN now i have to stand like idiot for 30 seconds or just teleport somewhere
@anahdra_3 жыл бұрын
i sweat as a pos 4 xd
@alexandradota23 жыл бұрын
On dota 1 the midlane hero was always ganking, starting even with the 2' minute rune. Usually ppl picked pudge, sf, mirana, zeus, lina or whatever, get a bottle and ganking over and over again on sidelanes. It could be min 20 and have 35 cs or something like that. At least on the platforms i played😂
@erudoritchi28723 жыл бұрын
Good old days when pudge hook and mirana arrow is still fast af
@davej.sakinar3 жыл бұрын
yes. idk why he says calling Nature Prophet as Furion is stupid. lol
@sirknightdude25873 жыл бұрын
sounds like pub picks, in leagues it was more like Viper, SF, Tiny, QoP, Puck (basically mobile heroes that can quickly nuke for >800 by level 7) Only would you ever see cores mid is if they draft a counter pick to the midlane with a core that has an edge in base damage recovery or range and is just better at scoring last hits and denies. Then you'd see DK Brood Huskar Outworld Devourer Necro and sometimes Panda or Sniper (fast attack point animations (can be good if you have low ping)).
@alexandradota23 жыл бұрын
@@sirknightdude2587 well yeah, those heroes too. Now that I think more ppl were playing any hero on mid back then. I remember seein a lot of AA, Bane, Ench, ET. Stuff like Topson plays nowadays. And I think it's better that way. I think that as long as you have fun and it works, you can try any build you want, no matter how weird and stupid may be in the eyes of the others. The community is really toxic and sticked to the basic concepts rn. For example if I pick AM mid and go for some MOM basher aghs build, at least 1 person from my team will flame since the very beggining and will find only me responsible for any mistake in the game. Meanwhile, I just wanna have fun and increase my MMR.
@Sain84923 жыл бұрын
well those are good ol days, in dota 2 mid lane actually wants lvl 4 safe to gank mid lane XD
@ketchumall82433 жыл бұрын
I'm really interested to hear where the idea of mids not ganking comes from. I started playing DotA 2 in 2013 and other would tell me the mid is almost always the role that needed to do the ganking. I would play mid Puck and TA and gank all the time. Now i stopped playing Dota for a number of years and only got back into it a bit recently, but the mid being a ganker is an idea that I still have. So at least that one bad habit i dont have lol.
@ElzariusUnity3 жыл бұрын
I find the best way to play and win MMR is to pretend that Carry doesn't exist: If they are good- a mega creep in late-game to use as bait. If they aren't - well it's a 4v5 game anyway.
@pringleringle60103 жыл бұрын
the cores dont ward is funny for me when i play core my 5 is just holding all the wards and is just at lane not doing anything
@maximomanabat83823 жыл бұрын
Your teammates reflects how you play too. If your rank has shit players then you are one of them. If you are good then you will rank high.
@welkidofianga41533 жыл бұрын
@@maximomanabat8382 how will you explain EE and Mason phenomena?
@davidsantoso22913 жыл бұрын
maybe you should have bought the ward then. That's literally why he said that carry should buy the wards because at later stage of the game, you're probably farming by yourself while your 4other teammates fight on the other side of the map. Even if they have the wards, they won't place it anywhere close to you just because they're too far away. If you feel endangered, just buy your own wards. Stop blaming your support on everything.
@tilting_cat33443 жыл бұрын
my carry blame me not warding and 2 wawrd left on base,and the fucker picked AM the easiest carry that can pick those ward place and safe farm mid game
@maximomanabat83823 жыл бұрын
@@welkidofianga4153 I dont know what EE and Maxon phenomena are. Would you care to explain? sounds interesting.
@Tremblay3433 жыл бұрын
I've been playing since 2011 and I can't think of a time when mid was ever seen as a passive farm lane. Obviously there are some exceptions with greedy mids who want farm, but usually the popular mid heroes are ones that can abuse runes and gank the side lanes when they hit a power spike like QoP or storm.
@FreepowerUG3 жыл бұрын
Why subliminal baby at 5:49 XD (watch at 0.25 speed!)
@JnBkfM3 жыл бұрын
wtf was that lol and how did you see it first lol
@matijagotic48413 жыл бұрын
wtf man 😂😂😂😂
@DrSm4rT3 жыл бұрын
This video should be mandatory for every idiot before playing Ranked. Even in Divine 4 ppl don‘t get these concepts. I don‘t even wanna think about the lower tiers
@KidTrigger3 жыл бұрын
Providence divine 4 is low get good noob and you won’t have noobs Anymore
@BigDaddyTCG3 жыл бұрын
The only thing separating you from me and my Herald brothers are a couple of clicks. If you’re trying to play like a pro but you’re not pro, you’re a loser like the rest of us.
@leonbishop74043 жыл бұрын
:O toxic
@DrSm4rT3 жыл бұрын
@@BigDaddyTCG the thing seperating you and me is reflexion. Watching your own replays and realizing how dumb you are every time you play. I felt dumb watching my replays in every rank i have been to. from legend 4 to low immortal. Most ppl don't try to play like pros. Some just try to play at their best abilty, like in a career. I don't have fun in being bad. I seek improvement at everything I do. That's why I play dota and not some other game. If you start at herald or don't try, it's completely fine. If you are trying for couple of 1000s hours and you are still herald. Idk man. Grow a brain.
@DrSm4rT3 жыл бұрын
@@KidTrigger I'm kinda too bad for lower immortal that's why I play on Div 4 smurf. Due to commitment to work I don't play much. I might be able to rank up if I can hold +50% winrate for a good amount of games but I just don't play enough. Ppl do retarded stuff in every rank, but some basic concepts should be easy for someone to grasp who is half decent at something like dota
@thatlooksgreener96423 жыл бұрын
I like how all heroes with "spirit" in its name is really really great at ganking and can even play at different roles
@ryancastillo69963 жыл бұрын
2:46 "Vsauce, Jenkins here"
@mikalai343 жыл бұрын
damn, this is so underrated
@daveillana47093 жыл бұрын
11:34 = a Dota legend that needs to come back
@lolobananica3 жыл бұрын
What is the situation about lawyers that you mentioned at the end? I didn't catch that before and I am curious to know about that. btw great video!
@charlieCmC173 жыл бұрын
Nice video as always Jenkins, can you work on a video about position 1? What pro players do that you don’t or some clever topic around being a better position 1. I find your knowledge super useful and I really like hearing you as a caster, real game analyst!! Keep up.
@KidTrigger3 жыл бұрын
Carlos Gamboa Encinas just get good noob farm better and make no mistakes and don’t cry and sell your items when your team makes one mistake
@seancutler67123 жыл бұрын
One problem I have when I try to shove out the offlane/dangerous farm lane, is often even if i tell my team what i'm doing they will get into a bad 4v5 fight without me and feed, then ping spam me for missing the fight and flame me lol. I've often had to let T1's die to just creeps in order to not get reported for missing the team fight they choose to take without me. It's rough in solo queue.
@scaredyjack38213 жыл бұрын
The warding is what I don't understand with cores, observer ward is already free and because of support items 4 and 5 can no longer carry ward because their inventory is full and yet cores still don't want to exert effort to plant observer ward which can definently save a life. #supportlife
@azusa-a43 жыл бұрын
"4 habits that make you a bad Dota player" 1. You playing on sea server 2. You never use your mic 3. Use alien language 4. Disconnect every half second just admit it already.
@unimpressedsquidward30593 жыл бұрын
Speaking on sea server will be like conversing with a cave that echoes back in a language you don't understand
@azusa-a43 жыл бұрын
@@unimpressedsquidward3059 lmao. damn man. so true.
@yessir27613 жыл бұрын
i think be problems no they 4 list,big problems is play like feeder ,gg game
@thermodynamics11103 жыл бұрын
atleast sea wins tournaments....go complain about your peruvian friends
@Marco_Onyxheart3 жыл бұрын
Years ago, I used to buy wards and send them to my team via the courier, and they'd still be too lazy to ward. Like, what do you want me to do, walk all over the map just to place a ward, and then walk back again while my hard carry is dying in a 1v2?
@elitestar3 жыл бұрын
True, a carry could purchase get a ward, but it's not ideal because he could be putting the ward in a spot that the enemy has their sentry at, thus making it an easy de-warding for the enemy. A carry would have to buy a sentry (which costs gold) in addition to a ward to guarantee that the place they are placing the ward isn't already sentried.
@jakubcidlik3 жыл бұрын
This is pure excuse.
@MOC5043 жыл бұрын
there are many bat habbits old players have. for example there was an old-ass dota 1 rule that if you build an item, you should but expensive components first, or components that give health. but these days you need to think every time which components is more efficient to buy frist, for example sometimes its better to buy mkb with blitz knuckles and not demon edge etc
@chris-jy6er3 жыл бұрын
Love your thought-provoking opener, Dinosaurs oldest living relative would be birds! T-Rex most likely tasted like some sort of carnivorous poultry, like a hawk, falcon, or vulture. Also, mint chocolate chunk ice cream and north if i had to pick one direction
@whydoesthismatter3 жыл бұрын
Jenkins doesn't even know chicken is a Dinosaur.
@gungrave103 жыл бұрын
2:00, when my carry friends play support, they tend to gobble up all the neutral, all the kill, and saving themselves first instead of sacrificing yourself to save carry. And they dont even try.
@markarato80343 жыл бұрын
My favorite is when an export invoke does not even bother to drop a sunstrike to help the lane, even when the gank is called in time, and ppl even ping the target
@marksun42922 жыл бұрын
About failing the lane happens to me all of the time. Sometimes 3 deaths and ur opponents already snowballed. And it took me long to notice that I should juat give up the lane and just not die.
@asummerday44483 жыл бұрын
The other day I reinstalled and built a diffusal thinking it could purge buffs on me
@MrDopestDope13 жыл бұрын
the fun part in lower brackets is that. carries dont farm at all. they run around aimlessly. 30mins with 10min items.
@unnamedshadow18663 жыл бұрын
the only exception to the rule are the low tier mid heroes, the dumb right click mid heroes and tinker. Those are heroes that are either too slow to go gank enemy lanes, need a lot of items to scale or they are made to dominate mid, take it fast and then proceed to join another lane and start team fighting. And Tinker of course is the opposite. The whole point is to delay his BoTs before he becomes a global gank presence. So in this case mid needs to get ganked hard.
@leia85373 жыл бұрын
if there is no space for carry to farm, I think the real issue is, are we all competing for farm which translate to "are we all picking semi core or hard carry?". If yes, then someone else need to give up their farm. If you have AM and Tinker in one team and NP, for sure there will be no space to farm unless you are controlling whole map. However, during the game, no one wants to give up their farm and as a result everyone has sub par item while enemy core already at peak
@AmmarAli77773 жыл бұрын
I hate the thing when carry is about to respawn and your support run and take all 3 waves pushing into you to farm 😭
@camilocastillon3 жыл бұрын
5:50 now my depression is cured Also, jenkins can you make a video about dota updates and metas we might have missed because of this quarantine. Thanks
@sobanya_2283 жыл бұрын
Actually in Dota 1 mid was always the ganker. In Dota 2 it switched around, people ganked into mid and mid more farmed. It seems now we transition back to the way it was.
@ddenozor2 жыл бұрын
The trick with ganking as mid is, you MUST kill their carry or cores. If you waste your time and resource on a support kill two things happen: First the support gets a free ticket to the base,free tp scroll and buys wards salves etc.. And second now you don't actually know where that support is,so you lose info and they can gank your other lane now that you are very far. Oh also their mid gets like 2-3 completely free creep waves. So ALWAYS go for the carry/core kill. Sometimes I think it might be better not to kill that support even if it's the only one you can kill and it's guaranteed.
@mpsash3 жыл бұрын
I reached 10 MMR after a consistent losing streak, then I started playing carry and reached 140 MMR. Later, I met offlaners who would take beating from carry and then take all the safe farm, use spells to take creep waves, which brought me back to 10 MMR. So I switched to offlane and didn't steal the safe farm from my carry, also this allowed me to shut down their carry. With this strategy I reached around ~400 MMR. Now the next problem I face is that my teammates take bad fights. If the opposite team is snowballing them, they get frustrated and fight more and blame each other. I hope I can improve my gameplay and find a solution to this so that I can exit herald bracket.
@Anders95T3 жыл бұрын
Its a long road for most people. Dont worry that much about mmr and try to focus on what you should improve next. Your mmr will always follow your actual gameplay over time. Gl
@borneorider93443 жыл бұрын
Write a book
@siddharthiyer44733 жыл бұрын
Man I face a similar problem. I play as support, and find that my team mostly turns out to be glass cannons, almost no tanks. And sometimes I end up picking centaur in support. I'm talking about the ranked roles matches
@siddharthiyer44733 жыл бұрын
@jonis jebisow an offlaner then? I've still not got the hang of good farming so carries is tough for me in ranked matches
@siddharthiyer44733 жыл бұрын
@jonis jebisow fair enough. Thanks a lot man
@dexsik3 жыл бұрын
@Jenkins please share this video for all people in my rank, pubs basics thinks and people's not thinking about this
@john.3523 жыл бұрын
What??? When I first started Dota in 2014 I always thought mid was the resident ganking role purely because of their level advantage.
@filipsijak24543 жыл бұрын
It was the same concept many years ago in Dota 1, not sure what this guy is talking about. Agree with the rest though
@lxdead55853 жыл бұрын
good to watch it at the morning :D being totally honest, I've this "issues" long behind me.
@fellowtemplar56793 жыл бұрын
- “Don’t steal creeps from your carry” - *LAUGHS IN WRAITH KING*
@Ghostel35913 жыл бұрын
ONE DOESN'T RAISE AN ARMY ON AIR AND GOOD GRACES, PEASANT.
@santiagodallaglio11653 жыл бұрын
"wonders what dinosaurs taste like on a daily basis" i'm not sure if this is stupid or genius.
@lukeskywalker6641 Жыл бұрын
The reason you gave for supporting you at the end of the video is jaw dropping 🤣
@user-mq2ru8fd5wКүн бұрын
Basically, what I've learned from watching all these videos is that if you aren't doing what the pros expect you to then you are griefing.
@AndheraYoddha3 жыл бұрын
This tutorial is so good. Actually god-like. Thanks for making it, I hope more players watch this, regardless of the bracket.
@mikelezhnin86013 жыл бұрын
Regarding first point: Imho communication is the key, it would be nice if the carry would just say "I am farming the triangle, please do not steal my farm".
@FlorianWendelborn3 жыл бұрын
TFW I’ve been playing this game for so long that I thought "mids don’t gank" is the advice when he started talking about old habits. When I joined in 2013, everyone insisted that mids should gank with their runes and I’ve never changed that mentality. Glad to see it’s apparently in-meta again xd
@abol83183 жыл бұрын
hobos ? you mean gorgc? i've heard he has been adopted by s4...it will all resolve soon
@OmnifyMyAss3 жыл бұрын
I don't know what you've been smoking as of late, Jenks, but midlane in dota 1 was always a role that occupied mid because with the fastest level 6 on the map you could tilt the balance on the sidelanes to your favor and thus most prominent midlaners were all that instead of mid PL/Faceless Void/Ursa. And moreso, even in dota 2 when ranked got added - fastest way to get get solo mmr was to spam QoP/Storm/Tinker mid because of the nature of the heroes and inability of pubs to retaliate due to lack of knowledge back in the day
@Fera-gr5mm3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. The "ganking to midlane" is, however, important before level 6-7, in order to tilt the balance in 1v1 lane. After level 6-7, it makes super sense to gank (if you cannot push). In pubs, I see people requesting gank instead of helping mid, mid going away from midlane before level 6, nobody farming mid, and mid statically farming (instead of pushing or ganking) when the opponent leaves.
@mandos61452 жыл бұрын
The only thing better than leaving mid to gank is somehow getting ganked, one time an idiot spirit breaker was trying to help his arc warden gank me as silencer, by the 5 minute mark I had 4 more int, the spirit breaker was missing 4 of his int, I was higher level than the arc and we demolished the game because we won both the other lanes
@TheNemkris3 жыл бұрын
In low ancient, I can't even pick a farm dependent carry because the jungle is usually empty.
@Jcz4873 жыл бұрын
I'm at 1k MMR what I always see is people not buying regen at the start of the game, always rushing boots, wand or wraith band. My last four games I've won the laning phase by showing up and casting one spell.
@Tober133 жыл бұрын
Recently I and Viper fed on our offlane and kept coming. 6 deaths till 10-minute mark. Still won, coz they had trilane (Shadow Shaman, Lion, Sven) and we out lvled them.
@clang14633 жыл бұрын
I have a bad habit of pressing "1" "2" "3" keys repeatedly and I don't know why.
@estevaocolares69973 жыл бұрын
In fountain? I know ;)
@coronnation88543 жыл бұрын
starcraft?
@erwidota74853 жыл бұрын
As an offlane player I cant agree more with your first advice. I see soooo many players playing the offlane bascially as a second carry and not as a space maker and this just ruins games.
@gokou00173 жыл бұрын
People taking a camp every now and there is okay, in my herald/gaurdian games, people last actually pick a carry as hard support, jugg / faceless void and make sure thati won't have a single cs until 3:00 min mark and throw the game in ranked role queue. This happened 2 straight games yesterday.
@mandos61452 жыл бұрын
Yeah one of my friends who is not a carry player tells me to get more farm and more levels when I play offlane core but invariably I am near the carry and they could easily want the camp and it is also nowhere near minute tick. I played a carry once to know how annoying it is to enter the jungle to realise there are no goddamn creeps to smack
@fire50773 жыл бұрын
Your vids are all over the place really, I literally have a puck pos 4 today clearing every wave, stealing farm in front of core's face, saying they watch your clip and doing "The Puppey Strat".
@MechaGriffin2 жыл бұрын
That can't be attributed to Jenkins. The fact that the puck decided that this was the strat he was going to go for today without letting anyone know or finding his own pre-made team is him just being stupid. If the puck wanted to try a strat he should've found friends who wouldn't mind. Ain't Jenkins's fault.
@stevenleonardo12383 жыл бұрын
well in sea pos 5 and pos 4 is jungling while pos 123 is pushing lane
@rostamostmann96573 жыл бұрын
I see the effect of Jenkins playing carry role "for some hypothetical reason that no one fucking knows but guess what everyone actually knows" in the 1st tip. Good job body keep it up.
@stefannicolaescu2942 жыл бұрын
oh man i miss the old days of dota 1 where there were no roles, we all auto-attacked creeps or dive for kills, no pulls, no stacks, no wards, no last hits or denies, just 5 agility heroes having fun :)). N'aix had 1 active spell ... you could almost play it with just the mouse. Ursa could Rosh at lvl 1, Mortred was literally invisible and whoever could play Meepo was a god :)
@Max-om4bg3 жыл бұрын
Here is advice from an old Dota player, offlaners or Pos 3 players should buy team items (with auras like pipe, crimson, vlads, guardian, shivas, ac and so on), as well as supports Pos 4 and 5, they should have meka, force stuff, glimmer, archane boots, veil of discord and so on. Main goal is to focus most toxic heroes from other team (never focus tank first) and to save carry and mid from dying in other words, die for them.
@Goriaas3 жыл бұрын
One thing was wrong. I come from dota 1 and the midlane hero ALWAYS had to be good at ganging and do so as soon as he hits lvl6 usually. Just farming mid might have been a 2007 dota strategy having a silencer and viper farm mid but those days were long gone by the time dota 2 hit
@adventuresofasimpleton3 жыл бұрын
We got bait and switched by the image of cm standing in trees.
@Addi-O3 жыл бұрын
Honestly Jenkins, I wish turbo players listened to any one of these strats, I used to not have time for normal games so I put my suffering in turbo mode. In turbo if mid ganks at lvl 6 and gets a double for his safe, safe goes up 1 lvl per hero, you get about 400 gold and mid goes up a level as well. You even use that ult you cant find a use for in mid and put in on cool down, I.e. use it for what it was intended
@parkfest33252 жыл бұрын
Stealing camps gives a huge impact to team like feeding on purpose, can easily ruin the game. They should go low priority for doing that. Once I’ve seen a pos4 alchemist stealing all the camps even killing stacks and he didn’t realize how badly it affects to team.
@MrAaaaazzzzz000099993 жыл бұрын
4:55 i always do this... only if support doesnt buy up all the wards and places it in his lane :/
@wowomah61942 жыл бұрын
See, to the last point, most DOTA players I play with just DON'T think. It's not that they're stupid people at all, it's just that they have set in stone ways of thinking and so they aren't very tactical, it's sort of like, their response to everything is "OH NO, YOU DIDN'T PICK SOMETHING META, GG" immediately. The reality is, not only is it often better to try and outsmart your opponent, but it's more fun. The problem I'm starting to notice though now that I'm trying to make builds that are clever and effective, is that most other players simply don't want to engage with that level of creativity. They think it's weird, heretical, won't work. Simply put, most players seem to be incredibly risk averse, they don't want to do something that isn't "META" to them and so frankly, they're not even really playing the game in my eyes, they're just trying to craft repetitions of what pro players do and letting other players think for them. "Well this pro player AM does this, so, that's the only way you can play AM now". The problem is, then EVERYONE knows how you are going to play that hero and then they will be able to counter it far easier, than if you play a hero that breaks their expectations. Case and point for how this can work: Nyx is pretty squishy for the builds a lot of people seem to build. So, what that means is, when people try to pounce on MY Nyx build, which I make very tanky on purpose, they end up wasting tons of important abilities trying to initiate on me. Of course he isn't as straight up tanky as a Tide or Undying, he's tanky in a different way. That is, because people expect him to be squishy, making him significantly more tanky (and building to reflect dmg with a Blademail too) means that most people (Who think in terms of "META THIS, META THAT") are VERY surprised when they cannot nuke me down and instead I turn on them and nuke them back (including soloing POS 1's like PA, AM, you name it, as long as they aren't a super tanky hero themselves, this strategy almost -always- works). But here's where the problems come in: This build kicks ass, I know it does because I've played it many dozens of times now and can easily survive teamfights and then keep solo ganking even after the teamfight. The times when it DOESN'T work are only two categories really: when I am counter picked by a bounty hunter (that knows what they are doing), or a Tidehunter/Tiny/Undying/Centaur who can just outlast my nukes in time for their team to come gank me. But that's a lesson I learned early and so will not pick Nyx if two or more of those types of heroes are drafted. The biggest single reason my build does not work (when usually it will absolutely crack the META and force carries to worry about the pos 3 more than the pos 1 or 2 mid game) is because NO ONE trusts me (or any other player for that matter). If you say "Hey here's my build, it will work in this way and I expect this result based on my experiences against similar teams" and you're like a lvl 15 Nyx with a demonstrable high win rate, someone has to always say "Oh no...gg", "Nyx offlane, hahahahahahaha" "cringe". This is the problem with creativity in DOTA, it's terrifying to people who cannot think. Sure, Nyx is naturally a high risk, high reward hero, which is why you can nullify some of the risk to Nyx himself by making him beefy AND reflect dmg with a blademail which means that even if you can't quite kill the pos 1 with your own nukes, him turning on you thinking "Ahahaha, this Nyx has wasted all his nukes now" typically means "Oh shit, I'm killing myself with blademail and I can't do enough dmg because he has too much armor" and by then, my nukes are back up, and they are dead and I've tped out to safety. But because it's not "META" no one trusts me, there are no trust falls in DOTA haha, if I say "Guys, I am going to make this Nyx VERY TANKY, treat me like a tank/nuker when I initiate" they instead assume I'll die in 2 seconds. Meanwhile, I intitiate in front of my whole team and I survive all 5 of the enemies chasing me as my team abandons me thinking I was a lost cause. It's baffling, they see a hero and think "This is what this hero does. This is all that hero does. This is all this hero will ever do. This is the only way to play this hero. Anyone who says otherwise must be a noob. I don't trust other players. I don't even trust myself. DOTA is not a team game." This is how a lot of players come across to me. Haha. So maybe an addition to these rules, which are very good Jenkins, is that: try to give your teammates a FAIR chance to show you their creativity if they clearly aren't noobs. The game would be better if more people tried new ideas and in the moment techniques to outsmart enemies instead of the way most people think about games "Oh...they drafted XYZ Hero and you didn't, therefore, we lose".
@vivekstreme1994 Жыл бұрын
i once played pos5 dark seer and stacked a camp 4 times. i kept telling my core to come take this. i even pinged the mid who was Lina to take it but they didnt. there was a techies in enemy team running around and thought he would take it for himself so i took the stack for myself. sometimes, cores are stupid.
@dmitrychirkov42063 жыл бұрын
I played since 2013 and there was as certain build up of a midlane mindset from absolutely go gank lanes to stay farm and win with gold advantage, because you'll just waste you time anyway, since people learnt to write "ss" for a missing hero in chat and your teammates on the lane have no mana and hp anyway. So now you actually need to break your midset as mid laner togo gank again.
@pedrojuan80503 жыл бұрын
Dota 2 was, (yes "was" or 2 years ago when I quit it) a toxic playerbase problem. Back then I used to defend that game, but then I grew up. Do one mistake, and my team would say "Screw this, I'll feed".
@gutenman71123 жыл бұрын
The problems with old dota players that played since dota 1 that they already have a mindset that really stops them from improving , dota is an evolving game , but i see a lot of people still playing the predictable old way of playing dota that is too strict .
@srshk2573 жыл бұрын
Amazing video sir. Really opened my eyes. I wished everyone in my bracket watched this. Subscribed 👍
@iamapotato.85253 жыл бұрын
As a support I trade with my carry with 2 small camps for 4 large camps and ancients all with 3-5 stacks by 13-15 mins. Then farm the lane when he goes jungling.
@aBanabis3 жыл бұрын
wait what? mid has always been great for roaming.. I remember playing solo mid for TDA in dota allstars like 15 years ago, and they always picked heavy roamers for me to play, like QoP and NA... Bottle + Rune is just too powerful, why wouldn't a mid roam? that's insane talk. It's literally always been amazing for mid to roam, what other reason is there to have a bottle/runes other than greed? It's for the mid to gank the side lanes. It was like that in dota allstars, AND in the betas for both HoN and DotA 2..
@AtillaTheFun13373 жыл бұрын
It’s so strange, I remember mid from the 2013-4 days being THE gank lane.
@ericksetiawan98553 жыл бұрын
stealing farm for carries is usually prohibited for every support, but how if the carries rarely can do a last hit.. let say for around 2-3 wave, the carries only can do 1-2 last hit or maybe not more than 5, it's make frustated to see as a support
@zizouwowist16413 жыл бұрын
ty man ik most of this thx to dota2 caster analys in pro games specily the farm priority . a second thx for pointing that pudge is a poinltess hero erly mid and late game unless the enemy team insanly bad.
@ScrewySole13 жыл бұрын
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@dingowizard41393 жыл бұрын
Guys be sure to check out 420jenkins on twitch, he’s streaming right now!
@Zyandrious3 жыл бұрын
You know what Jenkins? I will watch this pair of ads because you put it at the end of the video instead of 5 times throughout.
@Dota2OG Жыл бұрын
the problem is nobody accpet that in lower ranks , which makes impossible to rank up
@miguelmercado71663 жыл бұрын
I actually flame supports now for getting all the wards and just letting it sit in their inventory. Especially when the rune ward is about to run out.
@rashdan19943 жыл бұрын
My cores wont change lane even my lane is fked up
@febrypulungan61103 жыл бұрын
Maybe its silly but in mid lane if carry hard to farm fast n lots its better to gank other line, but if there 1 supp or hardliner stack jungle creep for mid liner its better
@Raechyu3 жыл бұрын
im in ancient bracket SEA we usually have a magnus mid that steal triangle farm in a badgame. E.X when i have a spectre game in a losing match up im force to take the hard farm / dangerous farm near unwarded area usually bottom lane that tower got taken because most of the time my magnus is taking the triangle. what should i do in this situation jenkins?
@AxaFin3 жыл бұрын
find someone to feel sorry for you, praise how good you really are at playing and lose the game.
@wajahatzafar97673 жыл бұрын
@@AxaFin hahahha
@sunnytokas33393 жыл бұрын
communicate with them and tell them why they shouldn't do it
@JnBkfM3 жыл бұрын
The first advice about the farm stealing is so goddam true. I used to play carry and fed up of mostly every single game having my farming patterns broken again and again and again. Even more sad than supports doing that is when offlaners, aggressive offlaners like slardar farming jungles. Just because I am aware of this and pay attention to this, now that I play mostly pos 3 nd 4 my games are much easier just because I respect my carry farm and make space for him.
@liamk573 жыл бұрын
Hey Jenkins! I'm currently really enjoying playing Undying pos 3, and just getting an aghs as soon as I can. I swear this shit is broken, his kit is absolutely not fair. Everyone plays undying like he's some weak guy who steals a bit of strength. MY WORD give this zombie an inch of farm and he will destroy you, if you have trouble in lane and you're solo? Just go into trees. I would honestly like to say I'm exaggerating but honestly try any level 1 carry on 300 max hp and see what they can do
@infinitygauntlet1013 жыл бұрын
Jenkins: Dont get the farm of the carry SEA Region: What? Get jungle farm ? Ok
@edelweiss94673 жыл бұрын
I've been carried by Deso Maiden before. I swear, just about anything goes in SEA.
@byneric84133 жыл бұрын
I legitimately just lost a ranked game in ancient bracket after watching this and everything Jenkins mentioned appeared in that game.
@1darkmesiah13 жыл бұрын
I'm Archon 5. Stagnating for a while now, trying to get to Legend 1. I've found that Archon, Crusader and Herald aren't that different. Things in Archon just happen quicker and more farm is being taken. And the more I read about the higher brackets, the more I am convinced that things aren't very different there. Players rank up, they improve their reflexes, muscle memory, team fighting skill. But they are still bad when it comes to making decisions and their selfishness. The toxicity and emotional reactions are also the same.
@Fa1led3 жыл бұрын
@@1darkmesiah1 Well condensed, more efficient itemization is also key difference between brackets and team synergy.
@LordOverTheLightOfRa2 жыл бұрын
I stack camps for my carry and spend every penny on them for the first 5-8mins. I get called a noob for not having items or being underleveled when I spent my time for my carry. It took them 22 mins to go for the camps I stacked but then a fight broke out, we lost and then the enemy took the camps. Im a very new player to Dota so im sorry for sounding stupid.
@Stickyrolls1233 жыл бұрын
"If you aren't puck, queen of pain, or a hero who has spirit in the name you are going to probably lose the game" LMFAO
@CalebPendergast3 жыл бұрын
There's so many advantages to placing your own wards regardless of which position you're in.
@hilmanic283 жыл бұрын
When did the "Mid hero isn't a ganker" misconception start??? I've been playing since dota1 to HoN to dota2, it has always been that mid needs to constantly gank side lanes..wtf
@jeuszxc68873 жыл бұрын
Well if u picked dusa and trax mid,thats why
@TheHOruS553 жыл бұрын
Yea i play moba for 10 years, mid creating space for carry was always a rule. Idk where he got that part from, it was always some trash bracket morons farming for 30 mins with midlaner with no gamesense.
@capsuleboy3 жыл бұрын
I sometimes gank when I am in mid, but when I go mid broodmother I never gank, people complain why I dont get a scepter and help, but I tell them that in some tutorials I saw, the pros say "broodmother doesn't gank". I know that when I break the first tower I should move to help, only then, but even that would be right, instead of that I go breaking the tier 2 and 3 mid towers, just because it is cool with broodmother, then ALL the enemies come to defend mid and I make space for them to go breaking the lane towers, is that TOO bad?? (I mean I have fun, and I play non-classyficatory, my rank was between courier and guardian more or less). My strat works most of the time and honestly Brood is the only hero I got mvps.. I have 50 mvp..
yo i was just thinking the same as jenkins said it. on the first problem, i was strictly only a carry player when i was legend for a couple of years, now i transitioned to strictly playing support role and now im ancient and i actually notice this. like if i am killing a camp, i look at the minimap and see that my carry is farming camps on the other end slowly going towards the camp im farming. i notice those things. what i do is to just make some of the creeps low and leave it
@jonhmarkreyes77123 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. Hope for some more vids.
@MultiJellybones3 жыл бұрын
ty for giving +400 mmr so far. looking forward to 2k more!
@darielrosales85083 жыл бұрын
Dude jenkins ty. Im gonna send this vid to my friends who doesnt get this till now