4 Levels of Cacio e Pepe: Amateur to Food Scientist | Epicurious

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Жыл бұрын

We challenged chefs of three different skill levels - amateur Stephen, home cook Joseph, and professional chef Saúl Montiel from Cantina Rooftop- to make us a warm and cheesy cacio e pepe. Once each level of chef had presented their creations, we asked expert food scientist Rose to explain the choices each made along the way. Which cacio e pepe makes you say “molto bene?”
Director: Debra Remstein
Director of Photography: Jeremy Harris
Editors: Manolo Moreno
Talent:
Level 1- Stephen Hamilton
Level 2- Joseph Ciaravalli
Level 3 - Chef Saul Montiel
Food Scientist: Rosemary Trout
Sr. Culinary Director: Kelly Janke
Producer: Tyre Nobles
Culinary Producer: Mallary Santucci
Associate Culinary Producer - Katrina Zito
Culinary Assistant - Stevie Stewart
Director of Talent: Cynthia Simpson
Line Producer: Jennifer McGinity
Associate Producer: Sam Ghee
Production Manager: Janine Dispensa
Production Coordinator: Elizabeth Hymes
Cam Operator: Lucas Young
Audio: Austin Rumsey
Post Production Supervisor: Stephanie Cardone
Post Production Coordinator: Scout Alter
Supervising Editor: Eduardo Araujo
Assistant Editor: Andy Morell
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@TheKesavan08
@TheKesavan08 Жыл бұрын
A level 1 chef with better technique than the level 2. Then there’s Saul. The man, the myth, the legend.
@ryanallen2647
@ryanallen2647 Жыл бұрын
Level 2 had me shook 😭 im not italian but I wanted to help him
@ronaldtaylor8326
@ronaldtaylor8326 Жыл бұрын
Better Call Saul😉...
@Constantina.Valenti
@Constantina.Valenti Жыл бұрын
Level 2 was cringe worthy, leaving his cooked pasta sitting there for several minutes before he even starts the sauce.
@xanderscookingschool1497
@xanderscookingschool1497 Жыл бұрын
So many things wrong with level 2. Bucatini is not really good for anything except Amatriciana, in other words not this. Cacio e Pepe's better with Spaghettoni. Pan's too small for pasta. Pasta needs a giant pot to move around. He left it in the pan for several minutes after it was cooked. At least strain it into bowl or something if you want the pasta water. He used Parmigiano-Reggiano in a 100% Pecorino dish. If you're going to call it authentic, please don't use Parmigiano. He should of toasted the pepper before smashing it with Mortar and pestle. Added cheese to a hot pan which will break the cheese. Looks a bit grainy. Pasta water probably isn't hot anymore by the time he made the sauce. And just the usage of olive oil, arugula, and red pepper flakes.
@naxotogo
@naxotogo Жыл бұрын
@@xanderscookingschool1497 on point on everything but, bucatini is also good for arrabiata, puttanesca and honestly any not so creamy tomato sauce.
@krauloa98
@krauloa98 Жыл бұрын
The level 2 guy talked like he was level 3, but for some reason his cooking looked and felt like level 1 xD
@wikotikabesa
@wikotikabesa Жыл бұрын
He is a level 1 cook for sure😅
@bigboygaming5529
@bigboygaming5529 Жыл бұрын
😂 stole the words out of my mouth
@alexk3352
@alexk3352 Жыл бұрын
Even worse than level 1. Just a complete mess.
@kmash6523
@kmash6523 Жыл бұрын
Dude cooked the pasta for 20mins lol
@johnseppethe2nd2
@johnseppethe2nd2 Жыл бұрын
He used the worst technique for making the sauce out of all of them. Even the level one cook had the right idea to mix the starch water and cheese seperately.
@FutureCommentary1
@FutureCommentary1 Жыл бұрын
I like Saul acknowledges that he's "messing up" with someone else's food while at the same time smirking as in "yeah we do that but come on it's not that serious. It's food. Enjoy!"
@jesusgamboa9899
@jesusgamboa9899 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see his reaction to Rachael Ray's pozole.
@alicetwain
@alicetwain Жыл бұрын
He messes in the right direction. I am not so sure about the pecorino toscano, but it's cetranly much better than sticking freaking salad on a primo.
@jesusgamboa9899
@jesusgamboa9899 Жыл бұрын
@@alicetwain it's my personal opinion that a cook should at least try to cook with the original recipe before "messing" with a recipe. Saul clearly shows that he knows what he was doing and made his own modifications without significantly deviating from the original recipe.
@alicetwain
@alicetwain Жыл бұрын
@@jesusgamboa9899 most importantly he used the right techniques. You can do a lot of things with a recipe,as long as you use the right techniques.
@ace1262
@ace1262 Жыл бұрын
true; thing is he knows the rules enough to tell you that he's gonna bend & break which ones. that's how everyone knows he knows his stuff, IMHO
@hannalofgren7982
@hannalofgren7982 Жыл бұрын
”My mother would be shocked if someone mixed different colored peppers🤪” 10 min later: “Now I’m adding red pepper flakes”
@AneXineohp
@AneXineohp Жыл бұрын
Different types, not differently colored.
@charlesspencer3447
@charlesspencer3447 Жыл бұрын
And olive oil
@BlitheDream
@BlitheDream Жыл бұрын
He added red chilli flakes, completely different thing.
@Coniculator
@Coniculator 11 ай бұрын
I also hate how he's so proud of being partially italian and then pronounces it "pey-pey"
@freddievargas9315
@freddievargas9315 4 ай бұрын
@@AneXineohp lvl 2 was a disaster, that's the point
@erika326
@erika326 Жыл бұрын
I'm not even Italian and I KNOW that the way the level 2 guy made it is 1000% not the traditional way
@TechnoGuys99
@TechnoGuys99 Жыл бұрын
level 1 guy did a better job and didn't brag about being “”””””Italian””””””
@kruger4444
@kruger4444 Жыл бұрын
Yes, because he added too much cheese and did not emulsify it enough, you can see the cheese chunks. In a good Cacio e Pepe, it has to be smooth and not chunky.
@Ann-yo6sv
@Ann-yo6sv Жыл бұрын
dude added pasta to water that wasn't even boiling yet. it seems he had only looked at his mother's cooking before and thought that he could do the same.
@yoshudriver6831
@yoshudriver6831 Жыл бұрын
@@Ann-yo6sv Then he tastes pasta that clearly isn't cooked yet while telling us how he recognizes perfectly cooked pasta by looking at it. That really got me. 💀 Then after the pasta is cooked he leaves it in the water for like 10-15 min? is he crazy? that's mooshy pasta witch chunky "sauce".
@sillymcbillie
@sillymcbillie Жыл бұрын
bro took a 23andMe and made it his whole personslity
@rodrigul3
@rodrigul3 Жыл бұрын
“Once in a while you have to take a break, you can’t make everything from scratch all the time” - Chef Saul, 🙏🏼❤️👏🏼👏🏼
@TheFierywaters
@TheFierywaters Жыл бұрын
Proceeds to make pasta from scratch..
@gerardoneri5115
@gerardoneri5115 Жыл бұрын
@@TheFierywaters hahaha ha right lmao.
@tatg69
@tatg69 Жыл бұрын
Cuz he is all about the shortcuts. LOL
@emmet-jamesblondel1708
@emmet-jamesblondel1708 Жыл бұрын
Don't let Chef Frank know!! XD
@lxkatelynne
@lxkatelynne Жыл бұрын
Take a shot every time Joseph says "Traditional"
@bloodyfitnerd1947
@bloodyfitnerd1947 Жыл бұрын
Ah thsuuj 1¹ shoot ereny tyne sh u ik
@tibbus
@tibbus Жыл бұрын
I don't think my alcohol tolerance is that strong....
@Hunterx787x
@Hunterx787x Жыл бұрын
Lmao the way it wasn’t even traditional, he just acted like he knew what he was talking about when he didn’t
@emmilia963
@emmilia963 3 ай бұрын
How about when he says “looking to”
@toneddef
@toneddef Жыл бұрын
"I like this dish because you don't have to add cream or butter to make it creamy." Proceeds to add a bunch of olive oil instead.
@mandyg5444
@mandyg5444 Жыл бұрын
Which I’ve always been told is a no no by my Italian aunts. Keeps the sauce from sticking to the pasta. Eh, everyone has their own way I suppose
@englishatheart
@englishatheart Жыл бұрын
@@mandyg5444 I mean, the dude said he added oil to keep the pasta from sticking to each other and to help the sauce stick to the pasta. Someone needs to tell him that's not how it works. If it keeps the pasta from sticking to each other, it will keep the sauce from sticking to the pasta. Dude isn't very bright.
@CMullly
@CMullly Жыл бұрын
Proceeds to plate chunky cheesy pasta that doesn't look creamy at all
@DonPatrono
@DonPatrono Жыл бұрын
@@mandyg5444 precisely, you can add a bit of unsalted butter when you're mixing the pasta, the cheese and a bit of the cooking water to help with the creaminess, but if you use oil of any kind you'll get the cheese sauce clumping up and the pasta being basically "in bianco" (meaning with no sauce sticking to it)
@nozzwells
@nozzwells Жыл бұрын
He gives off the vibe of someone who watches way too much cooking youtube and doesn’t spend much time actually cooking, and buckled under the pressure of remembering everything Bon appetit told him so he started mixing up his rules
@dogoku
@dogoku Жыл бұрын
Why is no one talking about how Joseph left his "al-dente" pasta in the water for that long, while prepping the sauce? By the time his was done I bet those noodles was soggy af...
@ameliamignonettethermopoli7858
@ameliamignonettethermopoli7858 Жыл бұрын
I was gonna say, and when he tested to see if it's al dente, you could tell that it's not
@sya286
@sya286 Жыл бұрын
I’ll sound snobby, but I bought fancy pasta like that once from NYC by accident. They’re VERY hardy, and take forever to cook (if you saw him say 5 more minutes.)
@beasy8991
@beasy8991 Жыл бұрын
I cook pasta all the time, and watching that made me cringe so hard my skin was about to turn inside out.
@Indigo_1001
@Indigo_1001 Жыл бұрын
They didn’t look soggy when he was eating it
@LisasLittleWorld
@LisasLittleWorld 9 ай бұрын
Never call pasta noodles or noodles pasta pls…. We know that u r American but pls…..
@bernarrcoletta7419
@bernarrcoletta7419 Жыл бұрын
I think Saul is right when he’s comparing Italian and Mexican cooking. I don’t have an Italian market very close, but I can walk into a Mexican market and feel like I’m in an Italian market. There’s definitely a common ground when it comes to the quality of the ingredients.
@jesusgamboa9899
@jesusgamboa9899 Жыл бұрын
I think that the common theme for BOTH Mexican and Italian cuisines is that anything that grows naturally from the good earth is what makes both cuisines great (I'm sure that it also applies to other cuisines, but Italians and Mexicans capitalize on that concept).
@eyespliced
@eyespliced Жыл бұрын
I mean, it's no coincidence many people of hispanic origin are called "latino/a/x," the operative part of the word is "latin." Spain was a Roman colony (two colonies actually, hispania citerior and hispania ulterior), and the spanish and italian language, culture, and cuisine are all directly descended from Romes.
@jesusgamboa9899
@jesusgamboa9899 Жыл бұрын
@@eyespliced mainly language.
@eyespliced
@eyespliced Жыл бұрын
@@jesusgamboa9899 I mean, yes and no. Certainly they didn't bring pasta and pizza, but have you ever heard of cilantro? Yeah. The romans introduced it to spain. Along with, well. . . a lot of other commonly used ingredients in spanish cuisine.
@lilivonshtup3808
@lilivonshtup3808 Жыл бұрын
It really shows in the major ingredients the two cultures use. Tomatoes, oregano, garlic, cheese, beans, olives and peppers are staples in both. Corn is not served whole, but processed into tortillas/tamales/polenta. Tostadas resemble pizza and enchiladas and burritos are like stuffed pasta.
@laurabrandt48
@laurabrandt48 Жыл бұрын
YAAAY STEPHEN IS BACK! One of the absolute most relatable Level 1 chefs.
@ze_ep
@ze_ep Жыл бұрын
and he killed this one. Right pasta, good sauce.
@vaclavvrana5200
@vaclavvrana5200 Жыл бұрын
I can’t fully agree on him being relatable. Remember the time when he put a cheesecake in his pancake batter? 💀🤣 like wtf, that was sooo random🤣
@paulatjandraputri7865
@paulatjandraputri7865 Жыл бұрын
@@vaclavvrana5200 that's the best episode 🤣
@vaclavvrana5200
@vaclavvrana5200 Жыл бұрын
@@paulatjandraputri7865 That is for sure! 🤣
@pookeywan
@pookeywan Жыл бұрын
@@vaclavvrana5200 every time he shows up, I say "here comes a *whole* cheesecake!" 🤣
@jinyang1116
@jinyang1116 Жыл бұрын
is it just me, or did the level 1 guy do a much better job than the level 2 guy?
@alicetwain
@alicetwain Жыл бұрын
He didn't exactly make a better job, but he was at least honest and didn't have an attitude of "I am Italian and I know how to make such dishes" and then make basically every mistake in the book.
@kosipisakii
@kosipisakii Жыл бұрын
@@alicetwain he even got the pronunciation wrong
@jesusgamboa9899
@jesusgamboa9899 Жыл бұрын
@@alicetwain True, but he also used the wrong type of pasta (although I give him thumbs up for not using Barilla pasta).
@alicetwain
@alicetwain Жыл бұрын
@@jesusgamboa9899 rome has some tradition of using fresh egg dough pasta (fettuccine anyone?), And many of the classic Roman pastas are actually from Abruzzo, the same region chitarrine are from. His iluse of chitarrine for cacio e pepe isn't that odd at all.
@jesusgamboa9899
@jesusgamboa9899 Жыл бұрын
@@alicetwain I was mainly referring to Steven. Saul technically used the "wrong" type of pasta, but his "mistake" worked out in his favor. And you are right about Chitarrine being one of the correct types of pasta to use on Cacio e Pepe.
@chilibreath
@chilibreath Жыл бұрын
Joseph: is worried that if his pasta water is too salty, he did it wrong. Frank: *ADDS A LARGE BLOCK OF SALT TO A POT OF WATER*
@davidlambert3132
@davidlambert3132 Жыл бұрын
When You cook pasta/rice it's meant to be salty like the sea
@saninorochimaru2
@saninorochimaru2 Жыл бұрын
Frank: It's treason then
@nodeio
@nodeio Жыл бұрын
Nope. when making cacio et pepe or carbonara, you don't actually want your pasta water to be too salty. Both the cheese and the guanciale add a lot of salt already, and you can always add salt at the end, but you can't remove salt when it becomes too salty. So there are definitely pasta recipes where you want to go a little easy on the salt in the pasta water. It's not a one type fits all kinda thing.
@jcran8352
@jcran8352 Жыл бұрын
Ya what is Joe's claim to fame??? A mortar and pestle??? Please have Emily be the number 2 chef!!! 2/3 of your audience is still asleep. Maybe just can 1 and 2 and post wet paint to dry as we watch Saul do some serious chefing!!!!!!!
@yachishairclips2250
@yachishairclips2250 Жыл бұрын
Italian grandmas will support Joseph... They also ain't putting a lot of salt to boiling water in their pasta dishes, just from observing them.. My source: Pasta Grannies
@Psychopomp2024
@Psychopomp2024 Жыл бұрын
"Add olive oil in pasta so it won't stick to each other but sauce will stick to the pasta" Is he really level 2? 🤣
@zacharymacdonald1756
@zacharymacdonald1756 Жыл бұрын
That was the shittiest Level 2 chef I’ve ever seen on this series.
@maromania7
@maromania7 Жыл бұрын
When someone insists they're doing it the "right" or "traditional" way that often, they either know they're doing it wrong or think they can do no wrong. From his lack of knowledge on WHY things are done the way they are, to his lumpy results, I'm gong to say that holds true. The real tradition he's following is the American one- confidently claiming to understand a country's culture because your grandmother was from there. I'm not calling him a liar, I'm sure she did do things that way. I'm also sure that a few kilometers in any direction, there's another grandmother willing to fight her in the street over it.
@whitneyannie
@whitneyannie Жыл бұрын
Hahaha 😂
@thealrightchef2800
@thealrightchef2800 Жыл бұрын
Hes just got to put more pasta water.
@cinirice6606
@cinirice6606 Жыл бұрын
@@thealrightchef2800 yeah it looked like he put two small scoops of water and called it a day
@nozzwells
@nozzwells Жыл бұрын
Came here to say this!!! I feel like he saw molly baz or carla formerly from Bon appetit (love them) do it this way and he made it his whole personality because that’s what the lady on KZfaq said to do. Fixation on “traditional” really shows that someone knows very little about a dish
@chudez
@chudez Жыл бұрын
the traditionalist italian cook often forgets that their great-great-grandparents saw a weird foreign fruit and adopted it into a myriad of tomato sauce based dishes.
@dr.braxygilkeycruises1460
@dr.braxygilkeycruises1460 Жыл бұрын
I genuinely adore Stephen!!! He always cracks me up and he's not one of the people who know everything yet are labeled as Level 1. I feel like we could all actually make his dishes and I love the way he explains his choices. 🤗😁
@515aleon
@515aleon Жыл бұрын
You gotta love him. He knows his lane in terms of food. Knows what is over his head and what isn't. Not a bad skill for life in general.
@dsparr1010
@dsparr1010 8 ай бұрын
The way he said “soup” made me lol too hard. Such a charming fellow 😂
@kitkat7615
@kitkat7615 Жыл бұрын
The level 2 guy not liking how Saul used multiple types of peppercorn and then topping his with red pepper 🙄 I stg
@rasputinaxp
@rasputinaxp Жыл бұрын
I'm just 🤌🤌🤌🤌 right now
@skyskynomnom4674
@skyskynomnom4674 Жыл бұрын
The level 2 just doesn’t look… good. It’s grey. And dry. And tacky. Also, LOVE level 1 chef. So funny, so relatable
@Furetchen
@Furetchen Жыл бұрын
Agreed on the level 2, and his pasta doesn't look great either
@justintaylor7788
@justintaylor7788 Жыл бұрын
He cooks like a level 1, maybe level 1.3
@nozzwells
@nozzwells Жыл бұрын
The presentation was very cringy
@emilyyen8167
@emilyyen8167 Жыл бұрын
it's kinda green ..... from all that olive oil
@michelealbertini9828
@michelealbertini9828 Жыл бұрын
The level 2 cacio e pepe was terrible and the guy kept saying "traditional way". Mammma miaaaaaa
@Friotx78
@Friotx78 Жыл бұрын
truly, cringe.
@DoctorKnox
@DoctorKnox Жыл бұрын
Thank the lord you seen that too. It was HORRIBLE! Cacio e Pepe is NOT a greasy lumpy ball of cheese and noodles.
@ross-carlson
@ross-carlson Жыл бұрын
Glad others noticed how terrible his was - given it's all technique, with how simple the ingredients are, he completely and totally failed. I'm sure it tastes fine but man does it look AWFUL.
@wandasetzer1469
@wandasetzer1469 Жыл бұрын
He said it was great that it was creamy without using butter? I'm not sure that's what he said, but he used a LOT of olive oil in that one plate.
@ChristineMcAvoy
@ChristineMcAvoy Жыл бұрын
THE FACES I made during Joseph's dish....... I'd send that back. 100%.
@tammys5774
@tammys5774 Жыл бұрын
Wait the Level 2 chef criticised Saul for using different kinds of pepper but then added red pepper flakes to his pasta at the end? That ain’t it! He’s definitely not a level 2 chef.
@OneCarlos97
@OneCarlos97 Жыл бұрын
Shotout to Steven for using De Cecco pasta. It is a famous pasta company in Italy and, unlike others like Barilla, they don't change the recipe in US💪🏻
@toddkonrad2407
@toddkonrad2407 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. As soon as I saw him bust that out, I thought “he’s already on the right track.”
@kebabpizza9838
@kebabpizza9838 9 ай бұрын
It must be a paid add, product placement, they show it too many times, while they don't show the other brand used, Afeltra
@courtneypearce7840
@courtneypearce7840 Жыл бұрын
When I saw that cheese wheel I immediately assumed it was Frank. Saul was an amazing surprise!! 😄
@tabijozwick
@tabijozwick Жыл бұрын
Frank is out milking the cows to make the cheese wheel
@chaoswitch1974
@chaoswitch1974 Жыл бұрын
Imagine the cost of that cheese bowl.
@heidiallen824
@heidiallen824 Жыл бұрын
Steven's "believe in yourself Steven" I related so much. I like Chef Saul's attitude too. He makes pasta making so easy I might have to try and then ruin it somehow lol.
@jesusgamboa9899
@jesusgamboa9899 Жыл бұрын
Steven sort of made Pasta al Burro without knowing he did (interestingly, he made an American-style Fettuccine Alfredo a while back while Julie and Frank actually made Pasta al Burro).
@nozzwells
@nozzwells Жыл бұрын
Whenever I need to watch a trainwreck, I come back to watch this video for the “level 2” chef. Calling Joseph a level 2 and Stephen a level 1 here is just a downright insult to Saul and Stephen and unfair to Rose to have to try and justify his choices 😂
@JNMFNFnMNH
@JNMFNFnMNH Жыл бұрын
As an Italian, I do squirm a little when i see someone make non-traditional changes to Italian recipes, but I really like Saul addressing it and acknowledging that it's not traditional. It's when people try to pass off those changes as unimportant or don't understand the value of tradition when it comes to culture and food that there's an issue. Saul's not doing that, he's having fun with it and trying to improve upon things with how fortunate we are in today's world to have access to different ingredients that weren't around when the recipes were created, which at it's base is what cooking is about
@ml.9417
@ml.9417 Жыл бұрын
Italian culture….lol please get over yourself
@JNMFNFnMNH
@JNMFNFnMNH Жыл бұрын
@@ml.9417 Hey buddy! Hope you had a nice Thanksgiving!
@Flubbedweavlee
@Flubbedweavlee Жыл бұрын
concordo con te
@BlvckMamba
@BlvckMamba Жыл бұрын
It’s not that deep.
@jmorales9780
@jmorales9780 Жыл бұрын
The level 2 Cook on this episode can easily be a level 1.
@jmorales9780
@jmorales9780 Жыл бұрын
He overcooked the pasta, plus left it in the water.
@magicalmilimi894
@magicalmilimi894 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. His technique and skill is level one. Just because he used fancier ingredients shouldn't mean he's lvl 2
@ErebosGR
@ErebosGR Жыл бұрын
More like Level 0.
@ErebosGR
@ErebosGR Жыл бұрын
@@jmorales9780 He didn't even have to taste his pasta the first time. You could easily see it was still uncooked. Dude is clueless.
@BronzedBeast
@BronzedBeast Жыл бұрын
@@ErebosGR I think he got put as a level 2 by the producers but he definitely doesn't seem accustomed to cooking often.
@avisoncino8665
@avisoncino8665 Жыл бұрын
Saul preaching that Italian-Mexican unity 🇮🇹❤🇲🇽
@aris1956
@aris1956 Жыл бұрын
And as an Italian I say…. not only do the two cuisine have something in common, but also the colors of our national flags are the same. 😊
@19LALI87
@19LALI87 Жыл бұрын
Can we get Emily with Steven as lvl 1, Lorenzo with Gabrielle as lvl 2 and Frank with Saul as lvl 3 duos? And of course Rose as lvl 4. That would be awesome !!!
@morbidrob
@morbidrob Жыл бұрын
Love this!!
@funnypantshd150
@funnypantshd150 Жыл бұрын
rather penny and frank
@rodrigul3
@rodrigul3 Жыл бұрын
Yes I 100% Agree! 🎉 they should do a DUO episode!!!
@jacksonbianco2934
@jacksonbianco2934 Жыл бұрын
Hold Lorenzo and it’s perfect 👌🏼
@DS-lp1te
@DS-lp1te Жыл бұрын
Let's replace Gabrielle with Beth. What do you think??
@briansimon2891
@briansimon2891 Жыл бұрын
I love how Joseph doesn't have time to make pasta from scratch, but uses a mortar and pestle for the peppercorns LOL
@ErebosGR
@ErebosGR Жыл бұрын
He doesn't even know how to use it properly. 🤣
@briansimon2891
@briansimon2891 Жыл бұрын
@@ErebosGR I know! 😂 Uncle Roger would say his pounding is not good!
@thealrightchef2800
@thealrightchef2800 Жыл бұрын
I mean, for this kind of dish, it makes more sense to use dry, semolina pasta. Its the perfect bite and richness for the rich sauce of the Cacio e Pepe. Hes gotta improve his mortar and pestle technique and add more pasta water though.
@maimee1
@maimee1 Жыл бұрын
You can use a mortar and pestle a number of ways, depending on the result you want. If you pound peppercorns, you'll get powder. They don't want powder.
@MayorOfEarth79
@MayorOfEarth79 Жыл бұрын
Smashing peppercorns is easier than making pasta.
@SterlingIngleMead
@SterlingIngleMead Жыл бұрын
I'm floored that level 2 would use pre ground cheese (which has anti clumping agents) and would add olive oil to the pasta. I'd expect a level 2 to be more informed than that.
@englishatheart
@englishatheart Жыл бұрын
I never have any issues with packaged cheese. It always works fine for me.
@alixtheprofessionalcatherd6850
@alixtheprofessionalcatherd6850 Жыл бұрын
@@englishatheart packaged cheese and pre-ground cheese are different things. What are you trying to talk about? Pre grated cheese is never the best option as it contains anti caking agents and coats with a sort of flour that isn't easy to blend with other items
@tomasroma2333
@tomasroma2333 Жыл бұрын
I know hes too busy trying to import it from Italy to really check if the quality is better.
@MxS1996
@MxS1996 Жыл бұрын
You should be more floored that he takes a lot of short cut cause he doesn't have time, yet chooses a morder and pestle for his pepper.
@gerardsearancke6357
@gerardsearancke6357 Жыл бұрын
Stephen: I'll be making a Cacio e pepe Epicurious: sweating because there could be a chance that Stephen puts cheesecake in his sauce 👀
@jesusgamboa9899
@jesusgamboa9899 Жыл бұрын
To be fair, what Steven made was something closer to Pasta al Burro due to the addition of butter. We need to think of Cacio e Pepe as the original and master recipe (like in Julia's Child's Mastering the Art of French Cooking book) in which the name of the dish changes if you add another ingredient to the original recipe.
@mindstalk
@mindstalk 7 ай бұрын
@@jesusgamboa9899 Is there black pepper in pasta al burro? Pecorino romano?
@CalvinLimuel
@CalvinLimuel Жыл бұрын
10:19 "you don't need any cream or butter" but you just added a lot of oil to help it emulsify...... and still somehow the level 1 result is better than level 2.
@ArtyShat
@ArtyShat Жыл бұрын
Level 3 - Chef Saul: "I like making everything from scratch" Level Frank - Chef Frank: "Today we doing our own flour"
@emmmnahh
@emmmnahh Жыл бұрын
1 looks creamy and delish, but man, 3 is what I'd like to try
@jesusgamboa9899
@jesusgamboa9899 Жыл бұрын
Steven cheated by using butter.
@The_White
@The_White Жыл бұрын
@@jesusgamboa9899 He didn't use butter tho
@jesusgamboa9899
@jesusgamboa9899 Жыл бұрын
@@The_White are you blind? He did use butter on the sauce.
@dorkhydrogen
@dorkhydrogen Жыл бұрын
@@jesusgamboa9899 How is adding butter cheating?
@jesusgamboa9899
@jesusgamboa9899 Жыл бұрын
@@dorkhydrogen Cacio and Pepe is only made with Pasta, Pecorino (or a blend of Pecorino/parm if you are not used to Pec), and crushed black peppercorns. You achieve the creaminess if you use the proper techniques of adding the freshly boiled pasta along with its water to the cheese/pepper mixture and mixing it with a fork or spoon until the cheese melts and becomes creamy, not stringy.
@R_CA
@R_CA Жыл бұрын
Chef Saul did kill it as usual. There are some angry italian grandmas looking for the 2 other guys
@alicevanbiesen3823
@alicevanbiesen3823 Жыл бұрын
I don't know man caccio a pepe is never made with fresh pasta, you just need some texture from dried pasta. Why add all these random things? This dish is supossed to be simple, that's the whole point
@R_CA
@R_CA Жыл бұрын
@@alicevanbiesen3823 Hey Alice, I understand that, my comment was more like out of the 3 versions, I'll choose Saul's one (and I know the real thing is dry pasta, pepper and pecorino)
@lildredre89
@lildredre89 Жыл бұрын
Only Saul can do an Italian dish on the same level as Frank
@aguynamedryan395
@aguynamedryan395 Жыл бұрын
How the level one chefs pasta turn out better than the level twos. come on man, get that sauce creamy
@nattobaby
@nattobaby Жыл бұрын
you know its still early when no italians are complaining in the comment section yet
@jergoz
@jergoz Жыл бұрын
I would like to see if someone destroys your traditions and your culture. 👍👍 It’s all wrong, this recipe is perfect because it is very simple and fast, please stop watching the videos of Gordon Ramsey and companions and look for Italian chefs to explain these recipes. Yet there is Google Translate. It's easy.
@WickedWitchMidWest
@WickedWitchMidWest Жыл бұрын
@heymoona was going to say ohp I found one in the comments but looks like they found you first! 😀
@josealfonso5260
@josealfonso5260 Жыл бұрын
and it begins- 😂
@invitapriore
@invitapriore Жыл бұрын
@@jergoz I used Google Translate on an Italian chef's video and it just said "I cooka da meatball" over and over again
@jergoz
@jergoz Жыл бұрын
@@invitapriore I did the same thing and I found on USA info only antidepressants, weapons, obesity, no health, the population that believes more in angels and an average level of funional illiteracy 🤣
@hallie736
@hallie736 Жыл бұрын
"You don't need any cream or butter to make a creamy pasta" *literally just added a fat (olive oil) to make it creamier*
@YoungManDub
@YoungManDub Жыл бұрын
Level 2 guy 100% puts on the Santa outfit after cooking Christmas dinner for the fam
@sabrinamd96
@sabrinamd96 Жыл бұрын
Stephen: I'm gonna do what my wallet tells me Joseph: I'm gonna do what tradition dictates Saul: I'm gonna do.... WHAT I WANT 👑
@alicetwain
@alicetwain Жыл бұрын
Actually, Saùl was the only one of the three to get close to the Italian tradition (with a few cheffy detours but that's fine). Joseph made true poster glue. An Italian would not be in the same room with that mess.
@sabrinamd96
@sabrinamd96 Жыл бұрын
@@alicetwain oh snap, really? Damn. The way he kept saying "tradition" or "traditional" I just assumed he was staying true to form
@alicetwain
@alicetwain Жыл бұрын
@@sabrinamd96 he may be doung things the way they are done in the US. He couldn't be further form the Italian (Roman in this case) tradition and from basic pasta management and use.
@ErebosGR
@ErebosGR Жыл бұрын
@@sabrinamd96 Joseph is the typical Italian American whose "Italian" food is anything but traditional.
@mournwood
@mournwood Жыл бұрын
It's been a good while since I watched 4 Levels Of... and it's nice to see that Stephen has been learning. He's come a long way from the cheesecake incident.
@Jordi6304
@Jordi6304 Жыл бұрын
if he keeps it up he can be promoted level 2 like Emily was recently
@meghanodonoghue9066
@meghanodonoghue9066 Жыл бұрын
Omg cheesecake pancakes
@ctownsoul
@ctownsoul Жыл бұрын
From a technique stand point, only Saul did a proper mantecatura(to cream the sauce). Level one sort of cheated by using butter, while the cheese on level 2's still looked clumpy.
@damaran834
@damaran834 Жыл бұрын
Agreed, Saul definitely did an amazing job at emulsifying everything together to create the sauce. Plus, although it’s not traditional,I like the use of the various peppercorns because they add more flavor and color to the dish
@ross-carlson
@ross-carlson Жыл бұрын
Calling it "clumpy" is an insult to the word clumpy! That looked AWFUL, I couldn't tell if the sauce broke or not but it looked like a gloopy, gluey mess - I'm guessing it tastes okay but the texture/mouth-feel has GOT to be awful. Total fail given this dish is all technique and his was terrible.
@gerardoneri5115
@gerardoneri5115 Жыл бұрын
@@ross-carlson totally and he said he grew up in an Italian American household. They would be ashamed of him for producing that cacio e pepe!
@anasmaaz5731
@anasmaaz5731 Жыл бұрын
The Italian American guy had his pasta in the cooking water the whole time. Probably overcooked it as well.
@damaran834
@damaran834 Жыл бұрын
@@anasmaaz5731 I would assume he had the pasta going while making the sauce and that it was just edited that way to show the different components or something
@ohChai
@ohChai Жыл бұрын
steven grinding the pepper cracked me up the guy is effortlessly hilarious
@cooperstephens147
@cooperstephens147 Жыл бұрын
“My pasta is cooked perfectly al dente .” Me: “It’s RAW!” -Gordon Ramsay
@connormoorehead1872
@connormoorehead1872 Жыл бұрын
Did Mr. Italian American really use pre-grated cheese? 🤨🤨🤨
@serrgggeo
@serrgggeo Жыл бұрын
Take a shot every time the middle guy says traditional or authentic lol like we get it
@DrewLevitt
@DrewLevitt Жыл бұрын
Finish your drink every time he does something deeply inauthentic (pre-grated cheese, olive oil, bucatini, barely salted water)
@deutschebaby89
@deutschebaby89 Жыл бұрын
Saul rocks my world 😂 all men need to have his humor 💁🏻‍♀️💁🏻‍♀️
@AneXineohp
@AneXineohp Жыл бұрын
Why? Why specifically _all_ men? Why men at all? Why can’t his humor just be his and his alone and why does it need to apply to other people? Why’d you write your comment the way you did? What’s your point and why is that your point? Just, why?
@deutschebaby89
@deutschebaby89 Жыл бұрын
@@AneXineohp I guess some people wanna be mad to be mad. I’m sorry you’re having your time spent on trolling but I hope you the best :)
@Nuno1137
@Nuno1137 Жыл бұрын
It's very rare here in Italy find someone that pairs cacio e pepe with an egg fresh pasta, I would say it is considered an "error", but Saul did a great job of course and I'm sure it is delicious. I love the pepper profile he selected.
@damaran834
@damaran834 Жыл бұрын
Yeah although it’s not 100% traditional, it does look very good and he definitely did a great job at emulsifying the sauce
@cadewalker5364
@cadewalker5364 Жыл бұрын
I’ve made this dish a few times, but I got the best results from the fresh pici pasta that I made.
@ebm93nor
@ebm93nor Жыл бұрын
Not often does the lvl 1 look better than the lvl 2 but that is certainly the case this time. I think lvl 2 might have traditional American and traditional Italian mixed up.
@stinooke
@stinooke Жыл бұрын
I actually think his looks the best. Saul's is just farrrr too much cheese for the amount of pasta IMO.
@shine_yang
@shine_yang Жыл бұрын
@@stinooke wait but like Saul literally has less cheese than lvl2 guy
@Dyanosis
@Dyanosis Жыл бұрын
The level 1 seems more like a level 2 here. Most level 1 home cooks don't even use a pepper grinder. They use pre-ground pepper and they sure don't make Cacio e Pepe.
@Dyanosis
@Dyanosis Жыл бұрын
@@stinooke Maybe to you it's "farrrr too much cheese". But that's like saying "the level 1 guy used too much salt and the level 2 used too little". It's all on personal preference. You like one thing, Saul likes another.
@stinooke
@stinooke Жыл бұрын
@@shine_yang Saul literally used half a wheel of cheese plus a mountain of parm and pecorino
@Foo007
@Foo007 Жыл бұрын
Saul’s Cacio y Pepe looked UNBELIEVABLE 😍
@Douchenut
@Douchenut Жыл бұрын
Chef Saul also mastering in italian cuisines, bravo!
@SavidgeKitchen
@SavidgeKitchen Жыл бұрын
Steven and Saul were both so great to watch!! Love seeing the different skill levels both having so much fun and being so relatable. ❤
@rocknrollmanic
@rocknrollmanic Жыл бұрын
This video has solidified my theory that there are two kinds of chefs. One who don't heard the melody of food, and those who do. That determines greatness
@Joeyc55
@Joeyc55 Жыл бұрын
I think you don’t heard the melody of grammar
@brittw9015
@brittw9015 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see them all try each other’s dishes. It would be interesting to see and I feel like they would be really good at building each other up.
@ArtemisSilverBow
@ArtemisSilverBow Жыл бұрын
Saul is terrific. Love his humor and creativity.
@hakushiro9910
@hakushiro9910 Жыл бұрын
Steven is so adorable. "I didnt know other coloured peppers existed" Me neither m8.
@Matthew-cw3gn
@Matthew-cw3gn Жыл бұрын
The editing in this was a lot fun. Obviously it's such a simple dish that you gotta fill the time somehow, but I like how there was interaction between what the cooks were doing. Especially Stephen's "AH!"
@guillerumbos4804
@guillerumbos4804 Жыл бұрын
When level 1 chef has a more traditional and better product than level 2....
@damaran834
@damaran834 Жыл бұрын
Level 1 used butter so it’s not more traditional though level 2’s sauce was pretty clumpy
@jesusgamboa9899
@jesusgamboa9899 Жыл бұрын
@@damaran834 can a clumply Cacio e Pepe be rectified with hot pasta water?
@damaran834
@damaran834 Жыл бұрын
@@jesusgamboa9899 perhaps, though normally when it’s that clumpy it’s because the cheese wasn’t tempered properly and has gone stringy. Which has happened to me a few times when I made Caico e Pepe
@ROMANTIKILLER2
@ROMANTIKILLER2 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't call Stephen's pasta traditional by any means, but at least he aknowledged his limits and went the easy way to get a creamy texture. Cacio e pepe can be deceiptfully tricky: 3 ingredients and only a couple a passages, but very easy to get it wrong by having the sauce break and be lumpy like Joseph's.
@jesusgamboa9899
@jesusgamboa9899 Жыл бұрын
If you're going to add butter to Cacio e Pepe, please don't even bother doing that recipe. Just make Mac and Cheese.
@SaifUllah-jz7wq
@SaifUllah-jz7wq Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Saul, for trying something that does not involve any meat and stuff!!!! The best way to eat Cacio e Pepe!!!
@MinkytheMinkY
@MinkytheMinkY Жыл бұрын
His quesadilla didn't have meat either.
@Harrier42861
@Harrier42861 Жыл бұрын
I admit, when I saw the wheel of cheese on the thumbnail I expected Frank, but Saul is always a pleasure too
@TragoudistrosMPH
@TragoudistrosMPH Жыл бұрын
I'm glad Rose had all this time to explain. Interesting details!
@king_ltc_
@king_ltc_ Жыл бұрын
When I see Saul, I like and watch.
@peterflom6878
@peterflom6878 Жыл бұрын
Saul is my favorite of the level 3s
@juliordbn
@juliordbn Жыл бұрын
I just came to see people roasting lvl 2 for using olive oil lol
@benddover69420
@benddover69420 Жыл бұрын
What I learned from this video is that #2 loves saying he's authentic and doesn't know how to melt cheese
@DoctorKnox
@DoctorKnox Жыл бұрын
Thank YOU! He's clueless!
@ross-carlson
@ross-carlson Жыл бұрын
Complete and total failure - given this dish is all about technique, given how simple it is, his looked BY FAR the worst and was a total failure. I'm guessing it tastes fine but it looks awful, the mouth-feel has to be a gloopy mess.
@jc3drums916
@jc3drums916 Жыл бұрын
And has no idea how flexible pasta becomes when it's done cooking. I swear, it looked like he pulled out his test noodle within the first minute.
@englishatheart
@englishatheart Жыл бұрын
Dude thinks oil will somehow help sauce stick to the pasta while also keeping the pasta from sticking to itself. That's not how it works.
@djglockmane
@djglockmane Жыл бұрын
@@englishatheart i see this so often, why do americans believe pasta Will Stick to itself? I've never ever seen that
@TheDonRC
@TheDonRC Жыл бұрын
Me: might skip this episode *sees chef Saul* I’m watching this NOW
@kbonics25
@kbonics25 Жыл бұрын
The Italian way to salt the pasta water is "Abbondante acqua salata" or "salato come il mare".... use enough salt to where the water tastes like sea water. Then you don't have to salt at the end especially if you're using the starchy pasta water to thicken your sauce
@Sabrina-sx9fl
@Sabrina-sx9fl Жыл бұрын
that's actually just a myth, you need to have 1% salt in pasta water; the ocean has 3,5% which would be way too salty
@robblissism
@robblissism Жыл бұрын
General ratio is 1000:100:10 (Water:Pasta:Salt, eg 1l water to 100g pasta to 10g salt) but less salt if you have a high quality pasta where you want to keep as much of its original flavour as possible or if you have a saltier ingredient later (e.g. a cheese or cured meat) that would over-salt with the pasta water. Less water and salt when you want a starchier water to use in dishes like CeP or midnight spaghetti. Sea water is way, way saltier than any of the above.
@gregf-stormvejr6892
@gregf-stormvejr6892 Жыл бұрын
You know it will be a great episode when Saul is the level 3 chef. 🙂
@Panwere36
@Panwere36 Жыл бұрын
Saul is the "kitchen dad" we all want and need.
@515aleon
@515aleon Жыл бұрын
Rose really had time in this one and the added details were presented in an interesting way. Really liked this!!
@wasalbi
@wasalbi Жыл бұрын
I don't understand why Americans always try to do MORE in the kitchen. I am Italian, and cacio e pepe is probably my favourite pasta dish. If I have to choose, I'll pick level 1. If I don't have to choose well, I would cook my own... Fresh pasta has no bite, which is essential here. Level 2 sauce is not even a sauce when he put pasta over it. And pecorino is already fat enough, you don't need extra butter or oil, if it's not creamy enough is a matter of balancing the water.
@robblissism
@robblissism Жыл бұрын
Agree! I know this is an American channel with American chefs but it's crying out for actual Italians (home or pro) to be involved here.
@alitzzy
@alitzzy Жыл бұрын
I'm sad that the level 2 doesn't really look creamy.... but it's surely homey. Lots of people believe that olive oil helps your pasta not stick together.
@JakobBerry
@JakobBerry Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it looks dry. I don't think he used enough pasta water.
@eddiegloria9671
@eddiegloria9671 Жыл бұрын
I find it kinda funny bc he went out of his way to talk about how his is traditional, and even lowkey criticized Chef Saul for using different peppercorns.
@SterlingIngleMead
@SterlingIngleMead Жыл бұрын
I'm very surprised that he used pre grated. Given that pre ground cheese has an anti clumping agent in it it's inherently more difficult to mix. And yes! Cooking videos always harp on not adding olive oil to pastas since it makes everything slip off.
@fusadiluna
@fusadiluna Жыл бұрын
@@SterlingIngleMead he's cute, but he mistreated those poor bucatini in every way imaginable.
@sentientai9266
@sentientai9266 Жыл бұрын
It does help the pasta not stick with each other, but it also makes the sauce not stick to the pasta, and you definitely want the sauce to stick.
@141460
@141460 Жыл бұрын
The way my boyfriend and I just cheered when Saul appeared on the screen. 😂
@nyk175175
@nyk175175 Жыл бұрын
More Saul content is needed.
@RobertPeters4674
@RobertPeters4674 Жыл бұрын
Epicurious, we need Chef Saul and Chef Frank show down like Chopped. Have the two chefs compete to see who the best is.
@alfiestark5036
@alfiestark5036 Жыл бұрын
Not a fan of bucatini. Yes it can THEORETICALLY have more surface area for sauce because it can get inside it, but in practice it is literally impossible. The hole in the pasta is not wide enough for anything thicker than water to pass through in a significant amount, and the pasta is too long for any sauce that does get in to get in any significant distance. So for the most part, it's just an empty tube. It's less flexible so it doesn't roll up on your fork as nicely, and because of the hole in the middle it can break more easily when stirred, like Joseph's did. It fails to do the one thing it's meant to be good at, and it's bad at other things on top of that. Bad pasta.
@AB-kw5jk
@AB-kw5jk Жыл бұрын
As per Joseph he grew up in an Italian-American family and still doesn’t know how to pronounce cacio e pepe properly 😂😂😂
@r3dsnow757
@r3dsnow757 Жыл бұрын
It's the famous American humbleness
@hctz1234
@hctz1234 Жыл бұрын
I was like… okay… good for you, do you want a gold star for participation? Because I don’t think you’re level 2 at all
@Mas_Tun
@Mas_Tun Жыл бұрын
Was hoping for Stephen to finish his pasta in a block of cheesecake
@fionak1146
@fionak1146 Жыл бұрын
Chef Saul... Always excited to see your work!
@sol12498
@sol12498 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant rendition of a classic by Chef Saul. Really enjoyed this episode.
@amolpatil172
@amolpatil172 Жыл бұрын
Any vid with Saul gets a like, no questions asked
@aratarat
@aratarat Жыл бұрын
I’m so glad Rose has more time again! Love her explanations ❤
@beasy8991
@beasy8991 Жыл бұрын
I made cacio e pepe for the first time a couple days ago, and it looked nothing like level 2. I had a creamy, silky sauce. His looked like he made it with Cotija instead of pecorino.
@Price_of_Fame
@Price_of_Fame Жыл бұрын
"if my pasta water comes out tasting like the atlantic ocean, i've done it wrong" somebody lied to him several times
@JohnHausser
@JohnHausser Жыл бұрын
Saul is still killing it on this one ! 👑 Cheers from San Diego California 🇺🇸
@DivineCornbread
@DivineCornbread Жыл бұрын
Always always always… salt your water so that it is literally as salty as the sea. Don’t listen to level two. This takes pasta from good to great!
@Furetchen
@Furetchen Жыл бұрын
No, level 2. You're meant to bring fresh pasta. The level 1 always brings dry, the level 3 always makes their own, that's the way it's got to be, as Emily/Lorenzo/Frank ordained.
@borzica
@borzica Жыл бұрын
“Let me add olive oil so the sauce sticks to the pasta…”
@MMLynnmarie
@MMLynnmarie 8 ай бұрын
I LOVE Saul. His humor is awesome and his food always looks amazing. He needs his own show.
@DrumBear78
@DrumBear78 Жыл бұрын
Chef Saùl, I think your Abuela and my Nonna would have been friends :)
@HeavenStudiosOfficial
@HeavenStudiosOfficial Жыл бұрын
The "level 2" (whatever that means) chef at 3:00 had to take a bite at that to realize it wasn't cooked yet? It's clearly stiff my guy! 😂 EDIT: What a surprise, his cacio e pepe was horrible and the cheese curded really bad. xD
@dogoku
@dogoku Жыл бұрын
Also, he left the pasta in the water for ages after he cooked them. He's gonna have a soggy mess in the end
@HeavenStudiosOfficial
@HeavenStudiosOfficial Жыл бұрын
@@dogoku yep. Rookie mistake.
@ToxikDouche
@ToxikDouche Жыл бұрын
man that one dude loved saying "traditional" lol
@tapp3r109
@tapp3r109 Жыл бұрын
Well he's "Italian" (Italian American) 😂
@adavis1129
@adavis1129 Жыл бұрын
He also loves being oblivious to the fact that he's stuffing up making a very simple dish.
@ALLVINTAROT
@ALLVINTAROT Жыл бұрын
It´s good to be back again... yeeaaaa... another update we love
@jing4122
@jing4122 Жыл бұрын
Frank's force ghost nodding approvingly with Saul's cheese wheel bowl
@j3r3miasmg
@j3r3miasmg Жыл бұрын
03:00 - If you need to taste to see that it's not ready, something is wrong.
@xBris
@xBris Жыл бұрын
So how come only the mexican can pronounce "pepe"? It's not that hard guys... -.-
@alicetwain
@alicetwain Жыл бұрын
Because in Spanish pepe is pronounced like in Italian. On the other hand he messes a bit with chitarra, but that's because he pronounces it like one would in Spanish where chi and che produces the hard c sound and ci and ce is the soft sound, while in Italian we do the opposite.
@lilliamuribe
@lilliamuribe Жыл бұрын
Because I feel like bilingual people actually make an effort to try and pronounce words in other languages while most English speaking Americans don’t even try🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️
@DrewLevitt
@DrewLevitt Жыл бұрын
Or "e"!! It's not Chuck E. Cheese, it's cacio "eh" pepe.
@nptuk2163
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Saul, you a legend man.. he is just the best… i can watch this guy cooking all the time. Not only cooks great but also is a great entertainer ;)
@anthonyrynes5669
@anthonyrynes5669 Жыл бұрын
Somehow the home cook did a worse job than the beginner. As a Roman, I am not proud.
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