4 Scramblers That Are Secretly Adventure Bikes & Dirt Worthy
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Some of these scrambler motorcycles are getting seriously capable off road, which has got me thinking are these bikes secretly adventure bikes? In this video I list me top contenders for the best scramblers for getting out into the dirt like a dual sport. The only catch is would you really want to risk ruining such a pretty motorbike?
Chapter Times
00:00 Intro
01:10 Triumph Scrambler 1200 XE
06:30 Fantic Cabarello 500 Rally
09:39 Ducati Desert Sled
12:02 Benelli Leoncino 500 Trail
15:01 Final Thoughts
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@chroniclesofsolid 3 жыл бұрын
In my eternal wisdom I miss-quoted the 1200 XE travel at 200mm. The travel is actually 250mm 🙃
@actstuntcam 3 жыл бұрын
Was going to correct you :) The XC has 200mm (But the XC sucks).
@stonethecrows5334 3 жыл бұрын
The forks are SHOWA
@gustavmeyrink_2.0 3 жыл бұрын
Sadly Triumph's reliability is practically non-existent since they shifted all production to Thailand.
@MrKdr500 3 жыл бұрын
@@gustavmeyrink_2.0 Australian delivered bikes have been from the thai plant for over 10yrs, no issues with them....
@thelittlesignpost 3 жыл бұрын
@@gustavmeyrink_2.0 and that is exactly where I live! I never buy Thai parts where I can buy Japanese, or Swedish engineered products. Ford cars are continually problematic because they are made here and I own one!!
@algee8228 3 жыл бұрын
Cool! Now if Honda would only lock a CRF450Rl and a CB500X in a dark room together for a night and then 9 months later...
@deadcaptainjames6045 3 жыл бұрын
I want a CRF450RL Rally soo bad!!!!!
@fredtracy3931 2 жыл бұрын
That bike already exists, it's called the Benelli Leoncino 500 Trail.
@algee8228 2 жыл бұрын
@@fredtracy3931 the only trail that thing looks capable of is the road to Starbucks!!
@fredtracy3931 2 жыл бұрын
@@algee8228 and what do you ride?
@algee8228 2 жыл бұрын
@@fredtracy3931 KTM 250EXCF
@agustincuevae 3 жыл бұрын
The Fantic Caballero Rally is such a fun machine, explosive motor, low weight in the category, killer looks, very capable suspension, low maintenance. I been rocking 9000 kilometers down here in the Andes mountains of Ecuador really rough terrain and high altitudes. It seems very reliable to me, considering the bmw 850 and Ktms 790 motors are also made in China. So I don’t think is as a problem nowadays. I’m even training on a hard scramble track with lots of jumps and mud so when the pandemics over I will try myself and the motorcycle in the national rally raid season(dual sport adventure category), I will keep you posted on the that and how it goes. All my friend on all kind of rally bikes ktm 690, 790, Teneres, Africa’s and even Xr’s or Dr’s says that I have really good chances the fantic is a rocket Thank you for include this real scramblers in the off road community we often get forgotten. But at the same time is fun to surprise some folks on “dirt bikes” in really hard and inaccessible places some time even passing them by, leaving them thinking a road bike just past me? 🤔on this really treaky river bed? haha. Sorry for my English is not my native language Long time subscriber form Ecuador. If you want to check my Fantic Rally adventures look at Instagram for: @agustincueva
@chroniclesofsolid 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers for the info and good luck on the rally 👍
@MrKdr500 3 жыл бұрын
KTM's 790 engine is made in Austria, CFmoto are going to build a 750cc variant of that motor for their own bike.....where do people get all this misinformation???
@agustincuevae 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrKdr500 IT use to, not any more (Philippines and China now) they are focus only on the 1290 motor and their dirtbikes. A quick googling will solve your misunderstanding
@agustincuevae 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrKdr500 why you have to be derogatory at the end of your comment? No need to
@randersson3672 2 жыл бұрын
Each to his own, I think it's a POS...with cool looks, thats it. If I comp it with my CRF250L and KTM 690....it's not in the same league as either of them.
@TimRHillard Жыл бұрын
The resurgence of triumph since the 90's has been really impressive. Every bike in their line is a winner, they are reliable, fun, have character and are priced right, at least here in the USA. I have owned a few of their bikes including a 2000 Daytona 955i, a street triple from the same time and a 955 tiger. That engine was really great, and sounded so sweet! I am thinking about a tiger 900 rally pro as my next bike. If I can get the right price, I will buy it! Usually they are nit too bad on insurance as well, at least thru usaa for an old rider.
@lifeofascrambler 2 жыл бұрын
Personally, I found the biggest benefit of the scrambler is being able to ride twisties on the way to some dirt, and rip it up then ride home in (relative) comfort. Also, when I say rip it up I mean jumping, sliding and getting the wheel up! So much fun, and good to see people recognsing this as a bike that does it all, and you can look good doing it!
@TimRHillard Жыл бұрын
right on!
@adamzadro8216 3 жыл бұрын
love em all!! But yes you need deep pockets for parts and servicing. I had a Ducati scrambler 2015 model (before the desert sled was released). It wasn't anywhere near as capable as the sled but awesome fun on dirt roads and easy fire trails. BUT I was so bloody worried about scratching the paintwork and getting stone chips hahahaha. If money was no boundary I'd probably have the desert sled, that Ducati sound and styling is awesome! Another great video Solid.
@hassansidibe5208 2 жыл бұрын
I was so much into big adventure bikes but since coming across scramblers I've changed my mind totally..my favorite scrambler's are BMW R NINI T GS AND DUCATI SLED
@MrRourk 2 жыл бұрын
Have you looked at the KTM 390?
@johnktm950 3 жыл бұрын
If only Fantic could do a deal with KTM, the 690 motor in the Caballero would be a winner!
@iangriffiths9930 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve not ridden the Fantic but I have had a sit on one and I can tell you it’s real nice! Quality looks fantastic. The very few UK reviews are very positive.
@michaelrodrigues8142 3 жыл бұрын
I really like that Caballero 500 Rally. Too bad they're not available in the United States.
@Angel-Pizzaeater 2 жыл бұрын
Just buy the hornet 250 mb motos
@randersson3672 2 жыл бұрын
I had high hopes...until I tested on, a very low quality bike, sadly.
@dragon291000 3 жыл бұрын
Ducati Desert Sled would be my pick ✌
@jimmyjoe1871 Жыл бұрын
Love my Desert Sled. Superb all around bike. Puts a smile on my face every time I get on it.
@willyd-adv 3 жыл бұрын
Ducati Desert Sled is an amazing adv cafe race bike, absolutely amazing to ride. The Fasthouse team even won the Mint 400 on it. If the crf300 wasn't coming out I would be buying the DS
@gustavmeyrink_2.0 3 жыл бұрын
That is not a cafe racer by any stretch of the imagination. A cafe racer is built to go fast on tarmac with clip ons and the foot pegs moved back, either naked or with a bikini fairing. The '75 Ducati 750SS is a near perfect example of a cafe racer. Would look good outside the Ace Cafe, the spiritual home of cafe racers.
@michaeljohnson2922 2 жыл бұрын
I had a CRF250L and man let me tell you, the most uncomfortable bike I’ve ever owned. I bought it new and sold it 9 months later.
@frankpinion4937 Жыл бұрын
The CRF300 is a toy in comparison to the desert sled. Not in the same league at all. Look at the power output & torque figures. Also the CRF is a high revving single so will have a much shorter engine life as 1 cylinder is doing all the work & it revs quite high with dohc. ALso the desert sled has the 903cc L twin with 1 cylinder lying flat. If you've ridden one the centre of gravity is low so the balance is very good & feel lighter than what they are especially the standard scrambler. Even though the Honda is a single cylinder it has the same number of valves & engine weigh up high being an upright single. Comfort & stability on the road getting to your fun place-honda rubbish-in fact most people I've spoken to trailer them to where they are going because they can't be arsed riding the gutless thing on the road. I've done some big trips on the scrambler classic & very smooth & comfortable on the road & the new icon is even better. They have a new scrambler coming out this year which is another 5 kg lighter, with throttle by wire & rider modes.
@jasondunn8894 3 жыл бұрын
Some interesting options there Solid. Didn’t think the Triumph would would be that great until I saw Steve Kamrad competing in rallies with his. Great vid as always👍
@chroniclesofsolid 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers Jason, a few mad riders used them on the Baja 1000 :)
@zakkyummms 2 жыл бұрын
The Beneli has a fully exposed radiator and external oil filter. Definitely requires some mods to rock it off road.
@jbeezostl Жыл бұрын
And 5.7 inches of ground clearance
@wayneh8767 3 жыл бұрын
Saturday with Solid! That's how I like to start the day! That Triumph is really cool.
@chroniclesofsolid 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers Wayne 👍
@biribaevolution218 3 жыл бұрын
Great video as always! Greetings from Italy! Benelli has been on sale since 2020 also the leoncino 800 trail.. And yes, leoncino means lion's cub😁
@malikknows3510 3 жыл бұрын
Agree completely on cruise control. One reason I chose an Africa Twin over the Triumph Scrambler was luggage. Can't mount anything on the tailpipe side. That's a drawback.
@lawdayl 3 жыл бұрын
There's a guy makes pannier racks for that side on fb
@stevenkorezelidis804 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve solved that issue and at the same time created an awesome looking and sounding scrambler, so my 1200xe now sports twin reverse cone as per my previous bike, my 1200 Thruxton R and so my adventures have already kicked off over a year ago
@stopper90004 2 жыл бұрын
I have Mosko 80ltrs over mine with a couple of heat shields. A little googling will reveal several other solutions.
@stevenkorezelidis804 2 жыл бұрын
Right on buddy you’ve hit the nail on the head with that 1200 XE dry it’s abou 210kg yes portly but soooooo much lighter that’s any other 1200 dirt oriented bike like ever!
@chriskennedy3018 3 жыл бұрын
I had a chance to actually take a scrambler 1200 off road and was surprised at how much it felt like a giant dirt bike. Super fun to ride
@lastsonofkrypton36 2 жыл бұрын
It's just too big of an engine for a scrambler in my opinion. I wish it were a 600
@chriskennedy3018 2 жыл бұрын
@@lastsonofkrypton36 it would be nice to see it in the 6-800cc range
@gpr2264 3 жыл бұрын
Excelent video as all of them!!!. Thanks and congratulations from Mexico 🇲🇽
@chroniclesofsolid 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@LooxJJ Жыл бұрын
When you mention heritage: Scramblers are all originally Japanese bikes of 1960s in California desert. Even though some may desperately argue that “scrambling” was originated in England with competition trials of 1920s, it really did not take off due to popularity of grand prix style of racing and introduction of dirt bike. Once Japanese motorcycles such as Honda and Suzuki were introduced to the US, it opened the door for “Scrambler” - as parts and style of the bikes suited to hybrid off road venture was now readily available to the general public at a very reasonable cost. In 1962, first of Mojave run was organized in California in La Paz, and the rest was history. So, when it comes to Scrambler - the original heritage goes to Suzuki and Honda.
@dornie_donko 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid, mate!
@maxjones4650 2 жыл бұрын
Great review. Very clear explanation.
@petewebb5149 3 жыл бұрын
The whole way through I was thinking, yeah some of these pretty scramblers are going to cost a lot to fix the cosmetic damage when the owner throws them down hard on a gravel road. Thankfully at the end you mentioned this. Endo my WR on a hill. Just jump back on again and Braaap. Endo Triumph scrambler and call your insurance assessor: it will be a write off.
@agustincuevae 3 жыл бұрын
If you got the money I don't see it as a problem
@petewebb5149 3 жыл бұрын
@@agustincuevae if you have the cash enjoy the crash! :-)
@stopper90004 2 жыл бұрын
The triumphs not competing with light dual sports...their compared to GS s and KTM adv bikes.
@petewebb5149 2 жыл бұрын
@@stopper90004 same result comparing it to different bikes that are far more crashworthy. Duh!
@chrismoody1342 2 жыл бұрын
From a guy who grew up riding motocross and now a street rider and has itch to get back off-road You’ve peaked my interest these scramblers. Really like the Triumph and Ducati models highlighted . I rode a older Triumph 750 Scrambler of an acquaintance. I loved the uniqueness, size power and styling. It had a custom exhaust and sounded so good. Don’t know if their is such a model around anymore. I’d consider buying a lightly used scrambler and saving some bucks.
@tdublove9558 3 жыл бұрын
Loved that Triumph but I think I would like riding it through the woods on a singletrack so I'd probably hurt it or myself 😃
@CRAZY-bi7fz Жыл бұрын
I really like it. I’m considering buying my first bike but im leaning towards a dirt bike but the bikes in the video look awesome
@flywire76 3 жыл бұрын
Another great vid.
@rocketrollsvlogs7625 2 жыл бұрын
I don't even know how to use my cruise control. But I like the idea of it being there. Great video thnx
@GrimYak 2 жыл бұрын
Leoncino owner here and after a year of owning it I have only positive things to say about it. Reliable and simply fun to ride. Next up, looking to buy the RE Int 650....
@rupertfb 3 жыл бұрын
Solid - thanks for this video: fascinating insight! When you talk ‘Adventure Bikes’ your videos and commentary are always about stock bikes with no bolt-ons. Might you consider mentioning the bikes potential for racks, side bags etc - as (in my adventure experience) this stuff is a ‘must have’ yet clearly some bikes discussed won’t be able to be built up to be a kit-hauling mule! For example: I sold my cb500x to get a KLR for exactly this reason
@chroniclesofsolid 3 жыл бұрын
Noted Rupert 👍
@TsvetanVR 2 жыл бұрын
I briefly took the Triumph for a test ride and within 15 minutes on the road it was demanding that I start riding like a madman...I felt like I could just run over cars and stuff....make of that what you will LOL 😂 And just for reference, I went to take the Triumph on my S1000R. I never took the Triumph off-road but it was a bit too tall of a bike for me, enough to make me uncomfortable coming from naked and sports bikes. I'm 180cm tall with an 85cm inseam.
@toururbano1699 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your information, the really good video, bye from Madrid (Aranjuez)
@lukerabin5079 2 жыл бұрын
Given the original version of this bike (trumpy) invented the whole idea of enduro riding, it deserves it’s place on the list, for sure. As for being an old bloke with a position on cruise control, I say bring it on! I’m old enough that I know that 6-8 hours on the road is so much less punishing when your throttle isn’t giving you carpal tunnel syndrome!
@mickstafford456 2 жыл бұрын
Of those. The Fantic, or the Benelli, are about the only ones I could afford, new. But, at that sort or price point, I'd probably opt for the new Royal Enfield Scram 411 (Not released when you made this video).
@billcotton1551 3 жыл бұрын
Solid ,I love that Fantic! I want one!
@lzblz8676 2 жыл бұрын
The chronicles of solid content
@Marcel_DL650 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Solid! Very informative. Do you know what the service intervals would be on the Caballero 500 Rally?
@chroniclesofsolid 3 жыл бұрын
Regular service is every 5000km (3000miles)
@bkc_edc 3 жыл бұрын
My brother has a scrambler 1200 xc (So the more road oriented one). It is so easy to ride off road. And I’ve never road anything bigger than a klx300 off road. Aside from my stock xsr700 every now and then.
@desmondshackel7028 3 жыл бұрын
Any idea if honda has plans to fit the dct trans. to the 500 or 300? cheers
@ElijahLeeS 2 жыл бұрын
Your opening comment implies we should give a hoot what the barista and the boys think of our bike. What you do and where you go way overshadow our societal image and peer judgment to those who aspire to be free. Just my feeling and reaction. Very info packed and well prepared video full of good comparisons among the bikes you focused on otherwise. Got my attention to the end. How are maintenance intervals on these scramblers is my only question. Thanks, be well
@Buledoyanmotor 3 жыл бұрын
very good video, i loved the Triumph 1200 XE, and i was seriously considering the Benelli Leoncino trail 500 (way lighter than the elephant TRK 502X at 235kg), i'm happy with the Maverick 500 (196kg wet), but i will consider the Scrambler with the same Loncin Engine next year, as by getting older, i may go to coffee shop more often lol.
@chroniclesofsolid 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate, enjoy the coffee 😋
@fredtracy3931 2 жыл бұрын
CCM Maverick is cool!! 😎
@yorkchris10 3 жыл бұрын
Triumph seems to have hit the target. It only got a heater and cosmetics change. Good for ADV in my opinion. The Ducati is still evolving. Scrambler -to-sled-to-Fasthouse. I would say it's more for fast steps than rock garden. Some people are hoping for Elefant.
@hamerplayer1229 3 жыл бұрын
got my DR650 stuck in a deep swamp and it fell over in deep water. Lucky no water got down the air cleaner. I had to have someone on a side by side hook a cable to it to pull it out as the bike was buried in deep silt and I was by myself. I couldn't imagine that being a Scrambler 1200XE with all the electronics. The bike probably would have been totaled
@fredtracy3931 2 жыл бұрын
Old school, ❤ it!!
@lawdayl 2 жыл бұрын
I have the Trumpy, love it. Had the front suspension revalved and heavier springs. Rear revalved, perfect ride on trails and brilliant on twisty roads and highways. I agree, not a bike to ride through a swamp but I wouldn't have attempted that with my dr 650 either 😉
@888jimmy 3 жыл бұрын
Slick as Solid! That Duke is something else… 😍
@chroniclesofsolid 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jimmy, they sure are pretty 🙂
@rbrADV 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I would argue that the best "'scramblers" are the lighter choices. We have been fed the myth that an "ADV bike" needs 800,1000, or 1200cc's. Also, since a "scrambler" is first a fun road bike that has dirt capabilities, I would add the CSC Motorcycles RX4 to the list. 450cc, tubeless wire wheels, ABS, full windshield, TFT dash, and many luggage options. Best of all = $5,000 retail!
@eddiex72 3 жыл бұрын
I have the XC and I've taken a couple of trips already. 1300 miles in one trip over 3 days and the Cruise control really helped out.
@Jmort93 2 жыл бұрын
Do you ever wish you went with the XE? I test ride an XC and loved it.
@eddiex72 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jmort93 no a single regret. Didn’t need the extra clearance. I think the distance between how off-road worthy each one is, is overblown. The XC is very capable on and off road. At 5’ 10” the lower seat height brings confidence and balance. Not a single regret. ✌🏼
@Jmort93 2 жыл бұрын
@@eddiex72 that helps a ton, thanks. I felt that the XE’s potential would far exceed my ability. Plus the lower seat height seems to me to be a good thing on trails with deep ruts
@lawdayl 2 жыл бұрын
Go the xc, still brilliant on trails but far superior on twisty roads.
@danielyurkiw1413 3 жыл бұрын
My cruise control failed on a recent ride and I certainly noticed. Wouldn’t buy a bike without it.
@nomading_in 3 жыл бұрын
Eye of the beholder, but I didn't like the look of the Triumph much in real life. It's not ugly by any means, but the over the top masculinity of the exhaust and brackets doesn't work well in my opinion. Not on this list, but something comparable looks-wise is the BMW R9T, which isn't exactly understated but the looks balance out much better for that scrambler aesthetic. Not that looks should be overly high on the list for an adventure bike, but just for anyone hearing everyone say the Triumph looks great...it's worth seeing one for real before getting too sold on the idea. Then again, I actually think the Royal Enfield Himalayan is a looker, so what would I know?
@cow77cow 8 күн бұрын
I riding a Royal Enfield scram 411. Not really powerful but has good torque, give enough fun every time. Cheap to buy, cheap to run, if I drop it no cry.
@charlesludwig9173 Жыл бұрын
I would like to see the Honda CL 360 again. I think it would be better for off road for its light weight.
@ronboe6325 3 жыл бұрын
This complaint goes across the board but I think is even more relevant for this segment - put on some decent function fenders. Especially in the front. On the Triumph you could see it coat the header and radiator with mud - it's just not right. I've never been a fan of scramblers, but the Triumph and Ducati got me rethinking that. Doubt I'll ever get to the point where I'd actually spend MY money on one. But they are growing on me. :)
@chroniclesofsolid 3 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of a scrambler, they look great. Not sure I could stomach the cost or the sheer terror of dropping it off road :P
@nunyabidniz2868 2 жыл бұрын
@ ~6:50 -- In Spanish, double-Ls are the "ya" phoneme, so it's "Cab ah YEHR oh..." It means "horseman" (literally) or "guy" (colloquially) FWIW.
@geoffreygreen3743 3 жыл бұрын
Do you think we will ever see the Yamaha XT 500 reintroduced as a retro bike with so upgrades.
@d.Cog420 2 жыл бұрын
brilliant idea!!
@redtobertshateshandles 2 жыл бұрын
No. It wouldn't be remotely what the old one was. Add 100kgs, give it XT tank shape and graphics, voila XT500.
@p-dub7422 Жыл бұрын
Very good review! But the video focuses on or at least illustrates their off road abilities but what about the road? Which ones are good on the road for riding around daily commute or some travels? The second bike in this video the Italian bike I never heard of it but that is a bike I would look at. I live in the U.S. I assume they are not here. What do you recommend that might be very similar to that look and feel? I prefer a more road oriented bike but has some rugged appearance and if I need to ride on rough terrain no problem. The video showed the 401 but did not discuss it. Why? Thanks
@tsdmoto 9 ай бұрын
Great video with some machines we don't see here in the states. Regarding the Desert Sled, super cool bike but you DO need to protect that oil cooler hanging off the side, so I'm not sure how much better it actually is compared to water cooled bikes.
@hadrianhaine5204 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Good too see two Learners approved bikes in the mix. More manufacturers need to take notice of the Learners Approves Motorcycle System and sell full sized bikes under 660cc. But I guess they get to sell a full sized bike once the rider out grows their 300-400cc bike. Would be good to know if Ducati is going to bring their Sixty2 down under and how it would stack up against the other Larners Approved bikes. Thanks again from across the ditch
@chroniclesofsolid 3 жыл бұрын
Cheer Hadrian
@sergionella996 Жыл бұрын
Can you give us some advice on new voge rally 300 and KTM Adventure 390 . Have you any idea on why Beta has stopped producing alp 4.0 ?
@abdulrehmanalyafei3708 2 жыл бұрын
Strong and beautiful ....A very beautiful masterpiece
@perfectmotoadventurespaulf1968 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, thanks enjoyed video
@axeami1354 2 жыл бұрын
A bike you may not have heard of but is worth a look is the hero brute 500 it's designed and built in the UK.
@davidzitzman6511 2 жыл бұрын
You had me at scrambles.
@sam-ww1wk Жыл бұрын
I'm a hard enduro and trials rider at the core. Bought a Triumph Scrambler for a road bike/potential dirt road adventure bike. Put the thing through its paces. While awesomely simple, huge oil capacity, and full of style, it does not cut it off road. Issue is, if you don't know what actual adv riding is, there is no way to know if an improved dirt road will actually be improved the entire way. More often that not, things get gnarly. This is when most adv bikes fall short, including most twin dedicated adv bikes, not to mention dressed up road bikes labeled as "scramblers". If you actually want to tear up some dirt and make some serious miles, imho, a 690/701 is the ticket. If you're a very capable rider, maybe a 890r with proper suspension. I rode that scrambler from AZ to Canada and back, and damn if you don't have a tall wind screen you get blown to bits, and they look goofy as hell with one, I'd imagine.
@lcdubs7847 Жыл бұрын
Here in Canada, the Triumph is really the only option on this list that would make any sense.
@Takayama-sama 2 жыл бұрын
Is the new Honda CT125 Hunter Cub a scrambler? It checks off a lot of the scrambler list boxes, but it has the appearance of a scooter so I'm not sure if it counts as a "true scrambler" or not.
@1dancier 3 жыл бұрын
The scramblers suit the green lanes in the UK, probably good here too, but pricey. The electronics will be a big thing with all the police control and varying speed limits on the roads these days.
@chroniclesofsolid 3 жыл бұрын
Good point on cruise control being a license saver 👍
@jimcampbell3511 2 жыл бұрын
I had an r9t BMW Scrambler for about a year. It was a little heavy but it was decent on fire roads with better tires than it came equipped with. The only problem was it was terribly uncomfortable for more than an hour on any ride. Great bike to look at- riding, not so much.
@robertmartin7964 Жыл бұрын
Do dig the scrambler style. I generally stick with smaller bikes off road though. My wr250r has been ideal for blasting trails and getting me home. Plan on grabbing the tenere 700 soon for longer trips out of state but may consider a scrambler if I can find one alot cheaper than they go for new.
@FenrisUlfven 2 жыл бұрын
Slight correction: The Scrambler 1200XE has acctually 250 mm suspension travel, it is the XC that has 200 mm
@richardclegg5853 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure I'd pick any of them over my 690 for off road performance, but damn they're all beautiful machines.
@filippocorti6760 2 жыл бұрын
690 is better off road. These are better on road.
@HollowBurden Жыл бұрын
Funny - here I was looking to narrow down my dirt worthy scrambler choices a bit from a triumph scrambler 1200xe, ducati desert sled and more dirt worthy wild card fantic... Lo and behold, first 3 ha. Only diff is I've got a royal enfield himalayan in my possible cheapo/beginner slot in the back. It's got an agreeable price, decent looks and is quite capable. Makes for an OK dirt bike and decent adventure bike, as long as your not intending much high speed highway work
@df238 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely loved hearing everything about the Fantic up until the motor grr.
@DispatchMoto Жыл бұрын
The BMW r9t just looks so good, hard to not love it.
@irishflyer6377 2 жыл бұрын
Great. Video, love the style but I think I’ll stick with my well used DRZ for the mud.
@robertmartin7964 Жыл бұрын
Same here, got a wr250r and just can't see these bikes following me in the mud and trails. There certainly pretty bikes but that would just make me never want to beat it up in the dirt.
@SledTillDead 2 жыл бұрын
The Desert Sled is the most capable all rounder here and looks the best too.
@artificialingredient 2 жыл бұрын
It's marketed as an adventure bike, but the Moto Guzzi V85TT is worth a shout as well
@0HARE 2 жыл бұрын
I really like that Triumph!
@timparkhouse9925 2 жыл бұрын
Really great video (love the inclusive reference to ovarian as well as testicular capacity 😋) but I think you dodged the big question. Luggage! I ride a Husky 401 Svartpilen and do a bit of messing around off road, it can do lots more than I can handle but it’s hard to take on a proper mission without somehow figuring out how to carry a lot of stuff.
@chroniclesofsolid 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks TIm. I just plain forgot about luggage. I use soft luggage and travel light so its never on my mind🙃 Noted for next time 👍
@770hevron 3 жыл бұрын
We only had a picture of the Svartpilen,yet,the engine is quite low placed,but it has good capacities! By the way,i really think that to get "real" offroad ,someone would prefer to use a trail or an enduro...Cause it causes no pain to see them falling^^. Imagine the Triumph falling on rocks...
@Luminarri 2 жыл бұрын
most certainly does. it is a beautiful, well built bike at a great price. on top of it husky is owned by ktm now. that's why I purchased a 2022 svartpilen 401😛
@milaventurasprod 3 жыл бұрын
Great question! I'd rather a DR650 moded for a scrambler look
@chroniclesofsolid 3 жыл бұрын
Good choice 👍
@agustincuevae 3 жыл бұрын
Mmmmm Not really , fantic is a modern bike after all, fully adjustable suspension front and rear, just that make a whole word difference, efi motor derivative of enduro bikes is a lot responsive and full of life, not like old big thumpers which are lazy tractors, new brembro brakes, arrow exhaust OEM, fat domino handlebars, Cnc aluminum un breakable parts, most powerful led lights I have seen, all that against 80’s reliability? Not even a comparable
@milaventurasprod 3 жыл бұрын
@@agustincuevae but the DR will outlive the Fantic.. and for the money, you can buy a thumper and mod it extensively. I have an XT660R with a modded USD suspension, it's brilliant (EFI). Have been thinking about giving it a scrambler XT500 look, Dakar meets café sorta stuff
@agustincuevae 3 жыл бұрын
@@milaventurasprod how do you know the fantic is 3 Years on the market, let see that in 20 years, I dont want to be a foolish or a clod about it but, I just ride the xtz 650 the other day in a really hard trail very muddy, and the owner of the Yamaha ask me for help due is well over 55 years old and overweight, I tried the XT and it was so hard to get it through, old Engineering a bike from past generations really heavy on top and hard to handle off road on technical terrain, instead the fantic is just designed by Mariano Roman genius of aprilia is so noticeable how much easier is to get it through, and in fire road is a lot easier to run very fast because the low gravity center, I'm not taking of what I hear o or even my tastes I'm talking with the Experience
@milaventurasprod 3 жыл бұрын
@@agustincuevae let's say I had bad experiences with chinese engines over and over again (luckily only owned 1, but dealt with some others, including engines manufactured by the same manufacturer as the Fantic. You have a point, but as I said, my XT is modded. The suspension is lighter than OEM, and better (Ohlins from a TTR600) and a couple of other mods to shed wheight from the top side of the bike. It resulted in a better handling, and goes trough a lot, being much easier to play around. It's just a shame that brands like this, known for their reliability, don't use other engines. For example the AJP PR7 was going to come out with the same engine as my bike, and that would be perfect, even if not so much performance oriented. Let's see what will come out of this, as the japanese are starting to come out with more lightwheight machines, and they are definetly improving on the chassis development (just see the T7 compared with the XT660Z that you rode)
@andremartino82 4 ай бұрын
how about the hunter scrambler 500, is it better than the Benelly or less fun to ride? thank you..
@danielsaffioti1570 Жыл бұрын
I'm thinking of buying a,ducati scrambler urban enduro 2015 model for some road & dirt riding hopefully it doesn't let me down
@Alexmaystudio 2 жыл бұрын
Rumour on the street is that Fantic are developing an Italian engine for the Cabs. Who knows! I’ve owned the Caballero Rally and loved it for the local trails. Not so great for my 50 mile commute so I’m looking into the desert sled now.
@cyclopathic998 3 жыл бұрын
Solid you missed a couple: SWM 6 days and the elephant in the room RE Himalayan. IMO Triumph Scrambler is an expensive boat anchor I sat on one and it is too heavy to be a serious contender.. Desert Sled is legit. Fantic Rally is the bike; get one you'd be surprised how capable it is. Reliability-wise some early models had blown head gasket due to air not purged from cooling system at factory.. they fix that and that engine powers many bikes and pretty reliable.. I would still keep an eye on expansion tank. I have been riding a scrambler for a couple seasons now (infamous BMW X-Country) and they're very capable bikes light and crash better than ADVs due to lack of plastics and as or even more capable than adventure styled mounts. If you think it is pretty much the same bike, same suspension, clearance.. minus plastics, and lighter.. the only limiting factor is wheel size and rubber availability.
@chroniclesofsolid 3 жыл бұрын
All great bikes you brought up, my video would be 30 mins though 😅
@cyclopathic998 3 жыл бұрын
@@chroniclesofsolid that's a lame excuse. Testride Fantic Rally and SWM 6 days you won't be disappointed and get a couple videos.. Desert Sled too if you can.
@alvinsmith3894 2 жыл бұрын
Himalayan is an actual adventure bike though. This is talking about SCRAMBLERS.
@FlorianWerner 3 жыл бұрын
250mm of suspension travel on the 1200 XE, 200mm is on the XC model. The downside for dirt riding on a $15,000+ bike is that dents, broken parts and scratches cost an arm and leg, given most of the Triumph owners will want to keep up the good looks of their bike.
@axeami1354 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed no matter how capable it is I just couldn't risk damaging off road.
@767dag Жыл бұрын
yeah little rich for me
@alfonsozabaletao968 2 жыл бұрын
You, sire, do get th scrambler vibe
@Ottakazi 2 жыл бұрын
Also: any opinions on an American made scrambler for off road?
@TimRHillard Жыл бұрын
I have seen people with desmodromic tattoos, no kidding! They love'em. Ducati sure has allot of soul and spirit in their bikes.
@joaxgolf Жыл бұрын
nothing wrong having coffee with and adventure bike!
@wickedleeloopy2115 2 жыл бұрын
The Ducati scrambler gives me vintage bultaco vibes. And that's not a bad thing.
@christiannavarro1154 2 жыл бұрын
I've the Leonccino 500 road version and I love it, but its hard as hell haha not so comfortable after an hour or so unless you ride on completely smooth roads.
@maxv77 2 жыл бұрын
Nice bike but wont the large air cooling fins soon clog up with mud on a dirt track?
@markbrown2885 2 жыл бұрын
The fantic looks brilliant, anyone know if they'll ever bring it to the US market?
@chiboreache 2 жыл бұрын
you forget about mt07 ;p thanks for the metric! so nice to hear not_flintstone speech..)
@victordohleman8061 Жыл бұрын
My 1st adventure bike was a 1978 TT500. Sporting running, lights, a speedo, no battery, no turn signals, alum tank, and bare bones machine made of steel. Could not kill that bike. crashed it in the dirt several times, got up and continued on. At 22 years old I paid 500.00 for it, sold it 4 year later beat to death for $500.00 I think it went on to become a circle track bike.
@user-wu2lb7mv5f 3 ай бұрын
Isnt the Caballero motor from zongshen Dakar approved by kove ?
@baylog9679 Жыл бұрын
I have a 82 maxim xj 550 that im currently building into a scrambler. Any one have any suggestions or advice?
@maraudostrogoth747 2 жыл бұрын
The bikes with the tire hugging front fenders could get you stranded if you find yourself in an area with wet clay and mud. It can get packed in there and lock up the front tire, and it doesn't take a whole lot. Ask me how I know...
@davidcauchi2837 2 жыл бұрын
Greetings. Well I like this, I now have a Triumph Sandstorm Street Scrambler and its a lot of fun on the dirt roads which is my skill level. I added a Side Pannier Rack and Bag plus rear rack to give me some places to stop gear. Bloody fuel tank is small and I wish it was at least 16Ltrs... I think its one to consider, price is a little high and picking up a used one may be the way for your second bike in the shed.... David..Adelaide...Tiger 900GT
@chroniclesofsolid 2 жыл бұрын
I am getting very jealous of your bike stable David🥲 Enjoy mate👍
@davidcauchi2837 2 жыл бұрын
@@chroniclesofsolid Thanks! Lots of hard work, saving up and going without to pay for it! Retirement has to have some benefits. LOL....
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