4 Step vs 5 Step Bowling Approach w/ Brad & Kyle

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4 жыл бұрын

Brad and Kyle talk about the difference between a 4 step and 5 step approach in bowling!
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@platinumrc6459 4 жыл бұрын

Kyle do be lookin like Belmo with the hair and beard tho 👀😂

@orangutan-_-3355 4 жыл бұрын

Platinum RC facts

@gabereal 3 жыл бұрын

@JerSladeYTshorts 2 жыл бұрын

Factual statement

@CharlieD954 12 күн бұрын

I just return to bowling, 15-20 years later. Working on the mechanics of my approach, and this video helps with my timing. If at first you don't succeed: Try..try..try..try again and again = bowling#$#@! Thanks Brad & Kyle

@markblackstad8705 4 жыл бұрын

1:36 my right arm went up. Who was with me? Since he didn't technically pick it up, does that mean Kyle is buying?

@bobbywilliamson8787 2 жыл бұрын

I like it when Kyle just wakes up after a 5 day Bender and creates content..lol

@raymonduelk6567 4 жыл бұрын

When I first started bowling, I watched Roth too much, I had a 7 step approach, then, someone told me to take less steps, I went to a 4 step and I use the whole approach, my game improved a lot.

@domsebast Жыл бұрын

This opened my eyes to why I was off balance on my first step with a 5 step approach . Thank you

@staceycollins4911 4 жыл бұрын

Just switched from a 5 to a 4. Needed to simplify and eliminate variables. Made a big difference. I SO want to go bowling!!

@raxt9385 4 жыл бұрын

I used to use a 4 step approach but the starting right away for me felt weird so I switched to a 5 step and everything is so much smoother and my timing is much better

@TheBigfoot1999 4 жыл бұрын

I've gone back and forth over the years between 4 and 5. You're right, there is no advantage of one vs. the other. It is all about feel and as we age, things change.

@mattgordon1977 3 жыл бұрын

I took 20 years off. This is my second year back. My 4 step approach leaves me about a foot and a half short of the foul line. I’m nervous that I’ll fuck up, trip, and face plant along with the ball halfway down the lane.

@teeken8850 5 ай бұрын

@@mattgordon1977 LoL... Me too...things are a bit more painful, the first thing i learned was 1. my 16lb ball days are over. 2. i don't seem to slide the way i used. 3. I needed to rebuild bowling muscles...lol...

@mattgordon1977 5 ай бұрын

@@teeken8850 absolutely man.

@onions86 3 жыл бұрын

Love the discussion on approaches. I’ve always been interested in the longer approaches like WRW and Norm.

@popanda3652 Жыл бұрын

Love you guys. Bowling needed people like you making easily accessible, high quality content. Can't wait to get some merch and show off at my lanes

@MrTay675 4 жыл бұрын

Holy crap this video was insane needed. Discussed every week

@im_lucid0240 4 жыл бұрын

thanks for uploading!

@billylipps7394 2 жыл бұрын

Ty guys, I've been struggling with a 4 or 5 step approach. I'm definitely going back to my 4 step. I can't tell you guys enough how much I appreciate what you do for bowling, keep it up. I really enjoy your videos.

@davidsharif2696 3 жыл бұрын

In my first year of bowling competitively, I did a four step approach. When I started doing a five step approach, it helped a lot. I like the five step approach a little more than the four step. Fantastic video. Great coaching.

@BigCatRL Ай бұрын

I currently have a 3 step approach due to habit. I use to take a large first step and slow down / slide my foot. I intend to learn the proper technique and boost my average to 180

@TwelfthAvenueCuisine 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks this video is helpful as I work to change from 4 to 5 step! 👍

@tersotaotao5868 10 ай бұрын

I love you two, I laugh the reaction of Brad on Kyle first released result.

@michaelstetzer3144 Жыл бұрын

Recently switched from 4 to 5 and improved my ball speed. This improved my scores and also gave me a slightly longer approach to improve my alignment. Sticking with 5.

@glennchiarolanza1104 11 ай бұрын

It would be a lot better if you would use slow motion in your videos. It's to hard to follow in real time

@ou812true5 9 ай бұрын

@@glennchiarolanza1104Go the settings and change the playback speed.

@djHughesFishers 4 жыл бұрын

Great Content as usual - thx

@denisewilliams8707 2 жыл бұрын

Hey guys your approach work very well. I had to remember to cross over and it work. Thank you guys because I thought you walk straight.

@TonyfromBham Жыл бұрын

As a 61 year old beginner, I find this video extremely eye opening and helpful.

@Bw40099 2 жыл бұрын

thanks this helped a ton!

@GraysonandJoey 4 жыл бұрын

Great video.

@bobbp88 Жыл бұрын

I have been bowling 4 step all my life and was recently at a 2-hour event that featured Parker Bone. He demonstrated 4 and 6 step and he made them both look easy, of course it is Parker Bone. But after that I was toying with going to 5 steps and wasn't pretty, I feel like it's foreign to me. So, thanks for this video, I will be sticking with 4 steps and keep doing the drills he taught us.

@baze3SC 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video. Interestingly, when I look at Danielle McEwan's approach, she seems to be doing more like 3 steps with the 1st step being a momentum step. So, it probably depends on how a particular person is "wired".

@darrenstewart3131 Жыл бұрын

I find that you both really explain a that I can understand

@demitriferneau4347 4 жыл бұрын

Could you talk about 3 step I've been using that for about a year or so

@christopherascherl2411 4 жыл бұрын

Kyle uses a 3-step approach instead of trying to walk around the ball return when he needs to stand too far left. I believe they did a video about this before but I couldn't find it.

@demitriferneau4347 4 жыл бұрын

@@christopherascherl2411 ahhh ok thanks I just started using it to slow my ball speed down because of the momentum was keeping it hard to slow down

@Barbara-sl7qw 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for saying both are okay. Taken to an absurd extreme, adding 20 steps, a twirl, and a jump may add momentum, but there is a point of diminishing returns where the complexity doesn’t justify the mental gymnastics required and sacrifices repeatability. Also, there is only so much approach space, and for me the extra step boxes me in too much.

@calvinmessick9406 4 жыл бұрын

Solid 5 love it

@aprillanepolk3817 2 жыл бұрын

Brad and Kyle. When I’m doing my four step approach I have hard getting my ball to move on first step. I take big stride in my steps

@michaelbarry7018 4 жыл бұрын

Now let's do the Mark Roth 7-step approach

@FrontLineGamer 4 жыл бұрын

Or the Norm Duke 17 step approach

@rynenavarro1587 4 жыл бұрын

Brian Kretzler!

@timbowler8201 4 жыл бұрын

Awsome u guys ty I need all the help I can get I'm 55 lefty PBA50 I cant wate get back to bowl

@ozneroll2132 4 жыл бұрын

Used a 5 step approach in leauge to get more length on the ball (rather than switch to a weaker ball) but later on it ended up disrupting my timing so I went back to a 4 step approach; my timing is more in synch now.

@Goku10303 2 жыл бұрын

Brad reminds me of Krillin from Dbz lol

@dojmike 2 жыл бұрын

For me, I think of it as an algebraic equation - whatever you do on the left, you do on the right. It is a matter of balance. With the four step, I have the same number of foot movements on the left as I do on the right and it helps me to be in a neutral position when I release the ball, and I get more control.

@ochibiechizen491 4 жыл бұрын

I don't know if is your field but what about two handers? the same rules applies? Got said that 2-handers the timing should be late, what you thoughts on it considering 4 vs 5 steps approach

@samh4232 Жыл бұрын

Is there a velocity difference between the two with the extra momentum?

@stlpatty12 4 жыл бұрын

When do you guys go to frontier? I work there. It would awesome to meet you guys!

@MasterGunz84 4 жыл бұрын

Great Tip Guys! #Keepingrindinbradandkyle

@jackolson6479 4 жыл бұрын

How did you get into the bowling center?

@briangillespie2977 4 жыл бұрын

I actually used to be able to switch between 4, 5 or 6 step approaches (or 3 step if I need to get in front of the ball return) depending on the given situation. But I actually not stick to 6 steps, unless I need to get I front of the ball return... I went through a period of switching between 5 and 6 steps and something about 5 steps was just putting me off when getting the ball into my swing, so stuck to 6 steps and never looked back, a week later I finished 18th in the all-events of the European Youth Championships, that was in 2009 and I still have no reason to change

@Icehawk_9 4 жыл бұрын

I do 4 step with the extra rock-back. I know it’s weird, but it reminds me of a pitcher’s windup in a way.

@d3epicgaming545 4 жыл бұрын

When is the PBA coming back Brad and Kyle Is there an announcement that I missed

@tehhwisper 4 жыл бұрын

I've got a stutter step right before my release. I never realized it until I bowled in a new center and the pro shop owner was watching. He asked me about it and I didn't even notice I was doing it.

@lawrence7171 4 жыл бұрын

Joel Longo I had the exact same issue. Ever since I’ve fixed it I’ve bowled a lot better.

@guyrich6467 4 жыл бұрын

Glad you mentioned that 4-step gives you as much power. I would have thought that 5 steps gives you a chance to build the power.

@tylerbowers1623 11 ай бұрын

I like the 4 step, but where should my eyes be? Should I look at the line, arrows or down the lane?

@AnalyzingLife 2 жыл бұрын

I’m a beginner and my approach is to just walk to the line..stop and concentrate and roll the ball. Needless to say..I need a new approach. That’s why my husband recommended Brad and Kyle. 😊

@shaggydoo25 4 жыл бұрын

I've been bowling for several years and have always had this question you guys might be able to help me with. My slide foot always finishes a good one to two feet behind the foul line. As far as I can tell, it hasn't hindered my game (I have really long arms). Watching pros though, they always finish at the foul line. What are the advantages of finishing at the foul line? Is it simply just about eliminating as much time the ball spends on the lane or ensuring the ball has as much rotational energy at the break point?

@JoeyBagODonuts18 4 жыл бұрын

If anything finishing a foot behind the line might make the ball grab the lane a bit sooner, but not by much.

@travishanson166 2 жыл бұрын

I have this same problem. It does affect targeting. My ball lays down about 4-5 feet past the foul line, but if I dont slide and step far enough left to square up on my target line, I will either miss far left (brain steps in at the bottom of the swing) or I miss right, thinking I threw a good shot I move back right and then over hook. Perception of the lane changes significantly at the foul line vs 2 feet back. The arrows and boards become bigger, target lines easier to see, lane looks wider, etc. Today i worked on getting closer to the line. I think i cut the distance in half and i became more consistent.. i was even able to send it up the 5 board, out to the 1 board multiple times without fearing the ditch. Normally that shot would be impossible for me 2 ft back from the line. Hopefully in the next few weeks i will get to the line fully. It's weird too because it doesnt matter where i am on the approach, i can take 5 steps in front of the ball return and still end up 2 feet back. Lol

@_thekingdavid_ 4 жыл бұрын

when I bowl I usually bowl with a 5 step but when there is ton of the oil on the line i kinda switch to the 4 step so my feet stay slow

@phillipvazquez284 4 ай бұрын

Are you able to tell me why I am getting hip pain

@MikeDCWeld Жыл бұрын

Any thoughts on a three step approach? That seems to suit me best.

@thenamebejake Жыл бұрын

Us three steppers are a rare breed. Keep at it ❤️

@johnnierobles2304 Жыл бұрын

I like five but is step # 3 a bit larger ?

@bretlynn 4 жыл бұрын

I JUST WANT TO BOOOOOOOWL

@guardianbowling7379 4 жыл бұрын

Yes!!!!

@RowanHalo307 3 жыл бұрын

The bowling center i go to for pepsi tourny is allllways really slippery, might of been cuz i didnt have my right handed shoes yet but idk. Whenever i have to i use 4 step there.

@prototypejack671 4 жыл бұрын

Is Kyle still with Brunswick?

@anderstauschristensen9184 Жыл бұрын

as a 2 hander i use 5 step approach since i need the momentum + my mind dont like 4 step, it f's up my swing somehow

@thomaspeltz8577 4 жыл бұрын

I had my hand up and I didn't see you make the 5 pin.....

@AaronMal1978 2 жыл бұрын

I typically do a five step for the first ball, and a four step when going for spares.

@7Skyz Жыл бұрын

I do a 3 step, is this bad? I'm fairly new but I've got ball motion down pretty well. 226 highest so far. EDIT: By that I mean am I limiting myself by doing this? Or is there any rules against this?

@thenamebejake Жыл бұрын

I three step, I can four step but I prefer three. There are no rules or limitations really apart from momentum would allow you to generate more power? I sometime four step for this reason just to get more momentum. I believe the best speed to be hitting the pocket at is from 16-18mph (don't quote me on that) so if you can still generate that speed without forcing it then you're fine ☺️ do whatever feels more comfortable. Try out the different approachs and see how you feel

@7Skyz Жыл бұрын

@@thenamebejake :) thank you, my average speed with just throwing it without forcing more or less speed is about 14mph. So I might want to work on some momentum, thanks for the input!

@Luke-1296 2 жыл бұрын

I use a 3 step approach

@jamesvaranesi8221 Жыл бұрын

i just started bowling in a league, unfortunately my body is locked into a 3 step timing and its really awkward trying to break out of it. Any tips for rewiring yourself?

@thenamebejake Жыл бұрын

Hey, how are you getting on? I currently still do a three step because I just prefer it and I've never seen anyone else do it 😂 so nice to meet you my fellow three stepper! What I done to learn the four step is I played a few practice games every week for maybe three weeks using the new approach 4/5 step and regardless of the painful scores I stuck to it until I could do it without hesitating or tripping over myself through over-thinking... I naturally bowl quite fast so slowing down was a struggle but it really helped to flow through the steps. I sometimes go to a four if I'm not getting the power I need and find myself going back down to a three after a few shots.

@jamesvaranesi8221 Жыл бұрын

@@thenamebejake Hey thanks for the reply, I also ground through some practice sessions forcing myself into a 4 step approach. Still need a lot of work but enjoying the journey so far.

@thenamebejake Жыл бұрын

It's tough seeing your scores drop but if you want to learn something new it will get worse before it gets better! Just have to try to stick it and see if it is for you 😊 as I mentioned I still do a three step out of preference 😂

@qxy6184 4 жыл бұрын

Hy kyle this is the first time i have gone bowling in 2 months can you give me some luck?

@thenungod 4 жыл бұрын

i was on a 4 step but i changed to a 5 step and my average improved by around 40 pins in like a year lol

@joepiccoli711 4 жыл бұрын

I do a 7 step. Used to do a 5 step

@Jason-qt8bm 9 ай бұрын

Hit like and subscribe if you still have your hand up after that first shot :D Really enjoying all the content and positive vibes.

@matthews9041 4 жыл бұрын

Osku also uses 4 step too

@ethang6735 10 ай бұрын

Interestingly enough out of the 30 bowlers in my one league, I am the ONLY one who uses a 4 step approach. Everyone else is either 3 or 5. Honestly bowling in tournaments I get people who look at me like I have 6 heads because for whatever reason, 4 step is really uncommon where I live. No clue why, just is lol

@whitehondarider22 4 ай бұрын

I like a 3 step approach

@garlandoverton727 4 жыл бұрын

I’m comfortable with my 6 step approach

@austinnguyen6277 4 жыл бұрын

I have a 6 step approach and I’m trying to change it to 5

@michaelw_yee 4 жыл бұрын

double momentum step ftw

@eric_vienerbowling898 2 жыл бұрын

i do a four step approach because for me foot work is a bitch and im very good at it, so i take 4 steps to make it less complicated, i used to do 5 steps but then i would start to drift and my ball would be far from my ankle, so i stopped taking 5 steps and started 4 steps

@jeffnewman8261 Жыл бұрын

I take smaller steps, so a 5 step helps lengthen the distance of my approach.

@joepic85 3 жыл бұрын

I take 7 steps

@simple_lovely_moments88 2 жыл бұрын

Who else clicked thinking it was a video for step 4+5 of a 12 step program advice? 🤣Bowling is good stuff though!!

@SuperJ213 Жыл бұрын

I just saw a guy do a 3 step approach recently. It looked so weird!

@thenamebejake Жыл бұрын

I prefer a three step and I get the same reaction 😂

@jax4654 4 жыл бұрын

1 word. SHAVE

@jhawkdon 4 жыл бұрын

This is the 2nd funniest KZfaq video that compares a 4-step and 5-step approach.

@trebornamwik2462 2 жыл бұрын

So, why not coment on the gratest pba 3 steper?

@robertdorans142 4 жыл бұрын

Doesn't Norm Duke have 7 steps?

@michaelbarry7018 4 жыл бұрын

Used to. Now I think he uses 6. Mark Roth sometimes used 7.

@qxy6184 4 жыл бұрын

Its Adam by the way

@TonySnider69 4 жыл бұрын

Brad Miller has more hair in this video I think.

@teresavicario5848 3 жыл бұрын

I recently added the fifth step. It helped me free up. But, whatever you do, dont move the ball! It wont go well for you. Lol

@SirJoelsuf1 3 жыл бұрын

Stone 5 on that four step approach haha

@matkins4268 4 жыл бұрын

not true the four is a rush approch with a more steeper downswing and you pick up on the ball the five is a flat swing at the bottom and you reach and the trailing leg is more bent and the four step the trailing leg is straight

@judweber3338 4 жыл бұрын

Dang brad really needs a haircut

@Zennoske 4 жыл бұрын

kyle needs a shave!

@asdfTheGreat Жыл бұрын

And then there's the method where you completely ignore your steps and just try to get rid of the ball before you hit the lane. Often accompanied by "I suck" and not "What am I doing wrong?" When you try to help, they make it seem like any pointers would ruin their fun of saying how much they suck. This was random, but it's a pet peeve of mine. Those people who shut down any advice as if they have a reputation of being laughably bad to keep up

@OneSpaceyBoy 4 жыл бұрын

Why is this looking like its in front of a green screen

@ANEGRON69 4 жыл бұрын

Kyle you are looking squalid and unkempt...LOL....Hope you guys and your familia are doing well!!!

@kevinjoe3578 4 жыл бұрын

Kyle, all you need is to throw 2 handed and you can fool people into thinking you are Belmo HAHAHAH

@samc2649 4 жыл бұрын

I find it hard to believe that a 5-step two-handed approach isn’t the most optimal

@bindingofisaacchannel3054 4 жыл бұрын

Generates the most power, if you can control it

@jamol1213 4 жыл бұрын

Norm Duke take like a million steps.

@mikeoverdrive7543 2 жыл бұрын

lookalike belmo..

@neooooo6127 4 жыл бұрын

please grow out you beards so you can do another bet with kris

@thenungod 4 жыл бұрын

YOU LUCKY BITCHES CAN STILL DO BOWLING ima go depressed if i cant go bowling its driving me mad i got a 288 the week before lockdown and i wanted my first 300 (im 15) grrrrr