Musicians have a saying, "If you can play it slowly, you can play it quickly". Sounds similar to what you're describing concerning speed vs accuracy.
@benjaminkeep9 ай бұрын
I ran into a similar saying in martial arts: "Slow is smooth and smooth is fast."
@LucasOliveira-dw4zh9 ай бұрын
The first thing I though during the video speed vs accuracy part was gradual tempo acceleration 😆
@jamescampanella57769 ай бұрын
I am learning: speaking and understanding mandarin, penspinning/juggling, poker (estimating ranges, pot odds etc) - and I would like to learn pencil drawing, handwriting/caligraphy, skateboarding, abacus, slide rule, crochet. I love this channel, and you give me a lot to think about for the kinds of things that we choose to learn and what kinds of approaches to take. Thanks Ben!
@Globiworld20009 ай бұрын
Missed two important ingredients - image streaming and n-back
@dRevnik9 ай бұрын
jeeez man get a life.
@KoopstaKlicca9 ай бұрын
I've been waiting for this video since the first one. It's a great experiment and good to see some of the research applied! Thank you :D
@micro139896 ай бұрын
"How could you have known unless you would have explored?" A good way to say you don't know unless you try. Many great tidbits on learning in this video. Look forward to videos like this where you use the science and test it out .
@anabeatrizspiecker275110 ай бұрын
Noticing your mistakes and using your experience to guide you to develop better in a skill blow my mind. I feel like I don't do this enough, before in high school it was easier to be on the "swallow" place of learning how to learn, but now in college I FEEL that I in fact did not know how to study to learn better. It really got me in a sad place, I felt so frustrated that I was struggling with studying, but that's cuz I had no structure to face the materials. I am still learning what is best for me, like testing what techniques are better and trying not get anxious about studying (something I developed because I was not getting good results). Seeing your video made realize how wrong I was before when I saw learning as a black and white thing. Now I see how complex it is and that you NEED to pay attention to YOUR performance and deal with your mistakes, in a compassionate way cuz trust me, being angry with yourself for making mistakes it's recipe for sadness. I feel like I have to take a step back on "learning how to learn" videos, cuz I always try what's on the video and don't pay attention to my results, they feel like noise than help. But anyway I love your videos, they are so real and practical u know? Definitely watching more after I got in a better place with my learning experience 😁
@benjaminkeep9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the kind words - and very happy to hear the videos have been helpful. It can be easy to get angry at yourself for making mistakes or under-performing, but agreed that it's almost always counter-productive.
@jeffw12675 ай бұрын
I commented on your first video, and I've been doing mental calculations for 50 years. It's all mental, and nothing on paper. It seems to be helpful to focus on the basics while practicing. I do not take shortcuts while practicing. For example, if I were calculating 268x99, I'd think "200x90 is 18000, plus 60x90 is 23400, plus 8x90 is 24120," and so on. If I were asked to calculate the problem by a friend, I'd calculate (268x100 - 268-1), because I'd be faster. In practice I don't like to use shortcuts, because different shortcuts are necessary in different situations. If I totally break a problem down, I can always do it the same way.
@Ayang-nh7ud29 күн бұрын
would you be able to do this for engineering problems, say for example there's a formula V=((9.81*(3-1)*(0.02/1000)^2)/(18*10^-6). I'd assume this will seem daunting to attempt mentally, is that so?
@MrNadava9 ай бұрын
This format of following your journey while hearing an in-depth analysis from a first person pov - that is awesome and rare. please Benjamin do more videos like these. It gives us a unique pragmatic view of the actual application of theories. Oh, and your channel is pure gold - the best of the best 👏🙏. I'm not sure if you ever addressed this before, but can you sometime make a video about learning techniques or approaches which apply to kids/adolescent? I'm not sure if this is a special case - but it would be interesting to hear your thoughts about it.
@lerubikscubetherubikscube28139 ай бұрын
I'm going deer hunting for the first time this week. Hopefully I can notice mistakes in my cache/bait placement, tracking, and stalking. Loved this video and your thoughts, thanks for sharing your experience :-)
@dittilio10 ай бұрын
One day I hope you take up apiculture. B. Keep - Bee Keeper. Thank you for doing this videos, your delivery is wonderful and never seems waffling or padded for time.
@CaptainWumbo10 ай бұрын
I think of this as a kind of ancillary skill. You learn how to do it as a separate activity, but it is in itself not useful, so learning will be hindered if there is not a primary activity that utilizes it. And performance will best develop in the use of that primary activity. As a means of testing learning strategies in the abstract or for the purposes of making a video, I think it puts you at a disadvantage since those things aren't inherently linked to mental math the way that, perhaps, calculating interest rates regularly might make use of it. It's hard to learn things we don't have real purpose for.
@steamsteam-xm6om10 ай бұрын
I did 1/6+1/12=1/8 in today's quiz in a taylor series question. I do need this video. I thought after the test I have been doing problems too quickly just to get them done even at cost of accuracy for my whole life.
@Heavenlyorb9 ай бұрын
1/4
@tisaname849010 ай бұрын
I thought I wouldn't share any experience with "learning mental math", but I was wrong. When I was watching your old videos, I did notice that conflict between interleaving and deliberate practice. The way I thought about it or rather around it.. was actually integrating interleaving practice into deliberate practice. To me the most important steps in deliberate practice were these 3: identifying key skills (to find right problems), self-evaluation and expert feedback. I would interleave problems, apply self-evaluation + expert feedback after each problem (I would eventually come back to those problems because of spaced practice), and as I got good at the problems, I would move onto more challenging problems while still interleaving with other challenging problems. I hope this isn't counter-effective, is it? I am using this method for practicing mathematical, technical problems.
@benjaminkeep9 ай бұрын
Sounds reasonable to me.
@OwenEkblad9 ай бұрын
How well do you suspect you will retain these skills? Do you think that mental math is something ubiquitous enough in your life such that you will be practicing the skills regularly enough to retain your new abilities? Maybe a video in a few months discussing your skill retention could be instructive. Love the video, love your channel.
@OwenEkblad9 ай бұрын
For reference, I am a graduate student mathematician. I like the discussion at the end of the "tricks". Oftentimes, mathematicians may disparage a particular useful mathematical manipulation as a "trick", simply because it seems to come out of the blue. I am of the opinion that it is better to think of these things as techniques that you yourself don't yet understand. Thinking of these things as tricks is problematic in my opinion for the sorts of reasons you discuss at the end here: if we disparage useful methods as mere "tricks", then how are we ever to understand the intuition behind them so that we might derive our own useful "tricks"?
@h-pe8xj9 ай бұрын
@@OwenEkblad completely agree it is always best to truly know how the "tricks" works and what they could teach us. over time it clicks and the nuggets of insight we got make their way into our thought processes and enrichen it.
@trev86157 ай бұрын
I took the same course you did years ago. Unfortunately I stopped at the intuition portion and thus didn’t fully solidify the knowledge. For the time I had it, it was incredible. The answer would just come to me (unless we are discussing very difficult problems) I’m starting up everything again and I’m really missing that ease with which the problems were solved.
@InterestingFindings10 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video. You provide a lot of value with this and sharing your effort. I can personally say it's impactful, especially your lessons learned at the end. I don't know if you're accepting suggestions, but if it's something that interests you, I'd love to see your approach to learning from a textbook. Something with concrete problems, such as Calculus, Physics, Chemistry, or Intro to Electricity. Just a thought.
@benjaminkeep9 ай бұрын
Something in the science area is on my list! Thanks for the suggestion.
@raifaryad41410 ай бұрын
Bro do a vid on mind mapping and chunking
@alecfokapu8 ай бұрын
Amazing. You mentioned in the end of the video that what kept the learning interesting is that you started seeing things differently because you were developing new skills and vice versa. Is there a way to make that a milestone in the learning journey? Design a learning program with an adaptative assessment approach to keep things interesting and/or help the learner realize his perspective has changed.
@benjaminkeep8 ай бұрын
It's an interesting thought - I think sometimes we don't realize how much has changed over time. A very low-tech way to do it, and something that I've considered doing in online courses, is having students answer a question (or solve a problem) in the beginning, before they've learned the material, then answer the same or a similar question at the end and show them their prior answer. Ideally, the question isn't just about the skill, but also illustrates some conceptual shift. I also think that it's about the orientation of the learner, as well. If you enter into the experience with a certain mentality (i.e., "I'm going to look for patterns and observe things that no one explicitly tells me"), it's a little bit easier to have the feeling that you're seeing something a bit different.
@guy1234u9 ай бұрын
After the second test, you didn't specifically call it that, but you talked (what i think is) the learning plateau. I have question which might seem silly, but: Do you "overcome" the learning plateau happen as time passes, or as you practice? If the latter, does that mean you can speedrun your way through it by practicing more than usual? And, if the learning plateau is caused by your brain/body struggling to integrate all the acquired tools/techniques with each other, does that ever get easier? As you reach expertise (or merely proficiency), does this process ever get faster, or nearly immediate/automatic? Or would that depend on the complexity of the technique you're trying to acquire and how well it integrates with your current "toolset" of techniques?
@user-gu8dk7dx9n9 ай бұрын
I've been on tenterhooks waiting for the thrilling reveal! One question that popped up while you were talking about plateauing was about spaced retrieval/repetition for motor skills, in my case piano. I've noticed that if I leave a piece for a week (or three, let's be honest), a difficult part becomes suddenly easy / easier, or I solve a particularly sticky problem. So I'm wondering if it is better to "skip" the plateau then come back later, or is it better to keep practicing at regular intervals?
@abc361969 ай бұрын
YOU HAVE THE BEST KZfaq CHANNEL OF ALL TIME
@GlatHjerne10 ай бұрын
It's absolutely amazing what someone can learn with such a small amount of hours put in, really makes me motivated to learn more. So you believe you should focus on accuracy before speed? Would this also be true for more procedural skills such as playing the guitar or something like that? Also, the tan looks good on you. 😁
@floro511210 ай бұрын
I learned playing the guitar for 8 years and yes accuracy goes always before speed. Somtimes it is interesting to play as fast as you can but usually you should focus on accuracy. Get femiliar with the piece and get your muscelmemorie to kick in. Than go faster and faster over time.
@jb_197110 ай бұрын
There is this series of free audio courses for different languages called "Language transfer" that teach you how to construct sentences in a very methodical way. They emphasize the idea of prioritizing accuracy, tell you to slow down, and encourage you to think everything through carefully ("thinking method"). In my experience, speed was a by-product of this process. You will often hear the author say that "we want to think slowly to learn quickly". Now, I don't think you could get really proficient in a language through this type of analysis, but I feel like it taught me something deep about the way our minds work. Processing something deeply may feel slow, but in the end of the day, is far more time-efficient. I recommend everyone checks it out, even if you are not interested in learning languages.
@InterestingFindings10 ай бұрын
@@jb_1971Think slowly to learn quickly.... Hmmm wow. That seems like something fundamental to a deep learning process. Thank you for writing that comment
@benjaminkeep9 ай бұрын
I agree with the other commenters here that the answer is yes. I think it can be fun to try to play things very fast, and playing things at different speeds probably helps skill development in the long run. But prioritizing speed as a goal is usually unhelpful, IMO.
@vipham21589 ай бұрын
I need you to create a videos about how to find out relationship between concepts in a text , and a several example about what kind of relationship we could find out. And why do we have to comparison concepts to figure out what is similar and different and why it's beneficial for our learning. And about grouping ideal together and how we group them , can I group them by common Or by relationships . I take These ideas from Justin sung video about bloom taxonomy and mind map ( sorry for my poorly English 😅😅 ) and
@BrodieMitch9 ай бұрын
how do you get better at literature class, is it simply just doing lots of practice essays or should I do something different
@DouglasSilva-ys6lw10 ай бұрын
Nice to see your efforts have paid of! Did you applied any mindmap/grouping or any other Higher Order Learning technique during this Challenge? Or Which were the "Encoding Techniques" you used to help you on this challenge?
@ajiboyemuhammed607910 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed this video, I have learnt alot Please can u make a video on high order learning
@maloukemallouke97352 ай бұрын
perfect i want to ask you multiple questions
@enjoyprocess-cj2fo9 ай бұрын
Hey Benjamin, could you analyze Ali Abdaal’s ‘3-Hour Studying Masterclass’ and share your thoughts on the quality of the course? I would appreciate it. Love your videos.
@thisisavinash10 ай бұрын
I am too bad at math, I'll be learning too, great video 😊
@Abhishek-tj1cv9 ай бұрын
Hey! I'm learning arithmetic word problems for my competition. What i wanted to ask is that can i learn the same concept that i learnt from one teacher from another teacher. I have tried it before but don't know why it confuses me and make me question my knowledge(and existence). Is that a good sign or should i stick to only one teacher.
@Pines_Peaches2 күн бұрын
You sorta look like Arthur T. Benjamin
@robertfontaine36504 ай бұрын
A lack of progress in basic mental calculation is more likely poor practice and technique rather than an integration problem.
@vndkakxjchajdks947210 ай бұрын
Hi Benjamin, I study different subjects during my own study session, do you think that’s okay? For example, when I am studying Math then the moment i’m stuck, i pick up my geography textbook, once i don’t understand something again then i go back to my Math textbook, sometimes i can solve the problem because of switching my attention to the geography textbook for a while, but I don’t know if it works for the long term, Im doing it because i have only a week until my exam and i am just trying to make sense of all the materials within a short period of time, what do you think? Do you think it’s okay to do that?
@benjaminkeep9 ай бұрын
That seems reasonable - focusing on something else for a little while is something I do too.
@mikebocchinfuso94379 ай бұрын
I looked into your degree, Stanford offers a masters in it. How did you get a PhD?
@alittax9 ай бұрын
Have you tried Justin Sung's iCanStudy course?
@cjr138210 ай бұрын
how is your face orange and your neck white?
@cooledcannon10 ай бұрын
I like watching you, I don't like this subject(boring)
@2ndFhex10 ай бұрын
Vedic math is better
@tatuco89 ай бұрын
Its great but its not a complete system unfortunately.
@360Lead8 ай бұрын
No offence meant, I can not tolerate the sound of Keep’s voice.