"Join their slightly glowing father in rampaging through the galaxy with chainsaws and flamethrowers"

Quest Accepted: Collect 20 Primarchs Even in the Grim Darkness of the Far Future, fetch quests are where everyone starts out if not dealing with rats.

"Magic pain glove, I am lost on this heretical ship. Tell me what I should do?"

"Lorgar was a massive quivering vagina" -Arch Lorgar video, 2033

one thing I have always wondered but no one has ever mentioned is...the Old ones were Masters of designing life forms , what if when the Emperor went into the Warp portal , what if he found an Old one Laboratory hidden away inside the Warp , perhaps the "chaos power" he made a deal with was one of the Last old ones ? it might explain how he gained "help from the warp" without actually gaining it from the big 4 , and why the big 4 needed to drag them into the warp and scatter them as they had no direct influence on them until they had

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOOD!SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!MILK FOR THE KHORNE FLAKES!*

12:30 Khorne doesn't lie. Ever. If Khorne is saying that it's what happens, then that's what he believes happened (He may have been tricked, admittedly, but still). Of course, it could just be Tzeentch fucking with us and pretending to be Khorne. Also: Death Korps lore when?

#blamelorgar

If Lorgar had spent some time with my magic pain glove he would not betrayed Emperor.

Man hearing you describe the original purpose of the primarch project makes what happened all the more sad, maybe he really did have a plan.....

21 primarchs? Arch be prepared for my Ultramarine Inquisitors

You forgot to mention, that Kor Phaeron and Erebus, according to new HH books were closeted Chaos cultists, and when the big E made Lorgar and Word Bearers take a knee they went to him like the friendly merchants they were, rubbing their hands and guided him straight to big 4. Also in Prospero Burns, Russ mentions that this would be not the first time he is sent to slay a brother primarch, so he might know more about his missing brothers.

"Arch Warhammer was found dead from 11 bolted blasts to the back of the head. It has been ruled a suicide"

I love how one single sentence from Arch has immediately devolved the comments from discussion on the lore to a political warscape. That sentence has pulled focus pretty well.

This man says that the god emperor of mankind can't watch over all of us ? HERESY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry for the late episode, KZfaq decided that my upload was problematic and demanded a re-uploade something i didn't notice until well past the usual time! tihi :P

I really want you to do a video on a specific Primarch. I loved the Konrad Curze video.

The CNN thing made me laugh way more than it should have :D

“They were also statesmen, philosophers, craftsmen, and judges.” And one serial killer (Konrad Curze)…

VULKAN LIVES! VULKAN LIVES!

I find it amusing that Arch's comment section often may as well be that of Text to Speech Device.

#blameLorgar

GUISE. WE GOTTA MAKE THIS #BlameLorgar THING A REALITY.

From what I know the Emperor tried to destroy chaos by purging religion from the Galaxy, mistakenly believing that it was faith in general that empowered the Chaos Gods and not emotion and worship of the chaos Gods.

not enough gasmasks

Damn, and there i expected a short rundown of all the primarchs or something superficial like that. This was pretty awesome to hear, a bit more in-depth information - but i'd really like to hear the stories of the rest of the primarchs, in the style you already did. Keep it up, those are great videos!

I would love to see a Primarch series done by Arch where he goes into detail about them like his Konrad Curze video

keep it up arch! I love your videos. always interesting, and I personally find them extremely calming/relaxinf

thank you all mighty Arch, your ramblings leave much to go on :) Nurgle is love, Nurgle is life ;)

Do you think you could make a 40k lore video on some of the 21st cursed founding chapters like the Minotaur's & Carcharodons? There is a lot of scattered information on the topic and I think you could present it quite well.

The original lore presented in the Compilation, was an off hand remark in the description of the Mk 1 Power armor. It was called thunder armor bearing the thunder symbol which was the pre equila symbol of the emperor. "Thunder Warrior" was a more of a catch phrase for Imperial warriors. The armor was contemporary in design and capabilities with the rest of the armies found on Terra and the (terra formed) Moon - mainly favored wrestling moves evidently (which was customary). A few suits of Mark 1 are still found as revered artifacts in founding chapter armories. The Mark 2's were developed for the first steps Great Crusade and don't look too far off of the mark 6 (beaked helmets). Of course this was written a good decade before the concept of the Thunder Warriors being something separate from Space Marines was even a sparkle in somebody's eye.

Very nice , always fun to listen to lore with your colorful explanations !

You make so ficking good lore video's

to me Guilliman and Dorn are the Greatest of the Primarchs they actually built empires and sought to maintain the Imperium OF MAN after the Emperor got interred on the golden throne Russ,Corax, and Jaghatai just fucked of to the warp and are Probably dead or have become the chaos gods fuck toys Curse them they just decided to leave and left Dorn and Rouboutte to maintain a galaxy spanning empire they are both dead and gone but they held true to the emperors IMPERIAL TRUTH

Fantastic information Arch. I have just recently decided to explore deeper into the Warhammer 40k universe as previously I focused on reading only the old world novels and playing their respective games. The Horus Heresy series has been fascinating and while perusing novels at Barnes and Noble the other day I saw a Space Wolf omnibus by William King that looked promising but it got me wondering if there are any novels that delve into Leman Russ and his life as a primarch. Much love and thanks for your time.

Mmmmm, making my Friday all sorts of awesome. Thanks Arch!

#Blamelogar

Disagree. His greatest achievement was supposed to be the construction of the Golden Throne, which would have sealed off the universe from chaos and created a system that allows safe travel for the Imperial ships. Unfortunately though he got a dm while making it and the dm mighta blew it to pieces. Oh yeah also small thing. The primarch outdate the Golden Crusade because they were needed for the geneseed for the Astartes.

Love going back an re watching these videos, and commenting again to help the channel recoup from the hack

From The First Heretic Book: When Argel Tal of the Word Bearers was sent back in time by chaos and entered the facility of the Primarch Project. Argel Tal found that the entire facility was protected by the largest, most powerful Gellar field ever made. He cut though cables powering the Gellar field destroying it as well as his swords. This is how the Chaos Gods were able to cast out the Primarchs. It was not planned by the Empreror nor was it any accident.

The Primark project. The Emperor's project to provide the Imperium of Man with affordable clothing.

I too identify as a blue whale ^^

One idea that supports arch's theory on the idea that whatever scattered the Primarchs was part Chaos and part Imperial in nature is that when the pods were scattered they were drawn to planets where the populations psychic emanations closet resembled their own minds, either via the Emperor guide the pods after the warp storm or Chaos' psychic nature connecting them to those populations. Hence why the pods ended up on planets with some kind of population as opposed to deep space. These could have been the worlds the Emperor intended his sons to draw their legions from in the future. Hence why Russ would end up on a savage, feral world, Magnus would end up on a world full of psykers, Angron on a world stocked with murderers and gladiators, ect. And it would explain why some of the Primarchs would have their worldviews fulfilled and others distorted and changed. Arch does a great job combining actual history and sociology with all these science fiction theories. JT

Post 40k lore more often please! I love to listen to it.

i feel like i am in a school again but more fun xD

lorgar was not the problem, Erebus is the badboy

*Angron slaughters his way into the Emperors office. Bloodspattered custodians falling left and right* " I have come, to apply for the govenourship of the segmentum tempestus. I brought my CV" *Angron proceeds to toss a human skin bound dossier on the desk so thick it breaks the desk, crushing the Techpriest underneath.* " Have you now my son.." *Ths big Muscly sunradiant awesomeness that was the Emperor tosses his spanner away from the big chair he is building and sits down* "And how, Angron. Can you govern a full 4th of my Imperium of man with all the complaining and trifle human error and adepta constantly pressing you" *Angron grins slightly.. Picking his teeth with what appears to be one of Fulgrims sharpened teeth as a toothpick* "Well, Father. They cant.. Well. Not really" *The Emperor looks visibly annoyed as two techpriests pass with electromops and begin loudly chanting the Rite Of Cleaning in binaric code as they remove the dead custodians* "What do you mean they.. Cant" *Angron tilts his head slightly crushing the skull of one of the techpriests in frustration* "They cant complain if they are dead!" *The glorius radiant lightbulbmass of big E facepalms himself in all his glorius might* "Angron. You. Cant. Have. The. Job." *Angron goes bananas*

To be fair to angron he DID have a peice of technology desinged to make him angry and savage forcible put in his brain by the rulers of the planet he landed on, it could not be safely removed and made his decisions worse.

off topic but am I wrong in saying this that chaos is basically a reset button for warhammer?

does the emperor need to wash his teeth?

two points. I always thought the emperor created the stable portal and forced a confrontation with chaos as more of a confirmation of his suspicions. prior to that event he had worked in the material world and had "whispering" from chaos. My thoughts where that he was aware of them and wanted to confirm his feelings before committing to a plan of action. the second theory I had was that the organized spreading of the emperor's sons was a split second intervention on his part when the separation occurred. he couldn't prevent their departure but he guided their destinations.

Love your vids Arch!

Again, no mention of Thunder Lords. Is it deliberate or just an oversight?

PRAISE THE SEVENTEENTH! PRAISE AURELIAN!

Learn from Logar kids, chaos is a gateway drug.

12:25 haha, even five years ago you saw that hell hole for what it was.

what if malice gave the emperor the knowledge

Hail Sanguinius!

The egg came first. Dinosaurs were laying eggs before chickens evolved.

Arch, you have the best by far, lore videos on KZfaq for Warhammer Fantasy and 40k. I do love your stuff. HOWEVER I do have one criticism. It has nothing to do with content, but more to do with you mastery of making a compelling statement in your video and then stating "but that is a point for another day / video". And then never making said video to expound on that point. And again this is not a harsh criticism, it is merely to say that I want more videos, more often! :) And yes I am well aware of your personal time constraints and production costs. And I appreciate all that you produce. I guess what I am trying to say is that I am an addict that is not getting their "fix" as often as one would like. Have a good day. :) Edit: #blamelorgar

Vent.... Du er norsk?? Mind = Blown

24:26 In one of the Horus Heresy books, I can't remember which one. It is suggested the Chaos Gods chose which planets they would land on. There was a conversation between two servants of Khorne and Tzeentch (I think it was Tzeentch) and they talked about why some Primarchs were chosen to land on the planets they landed on and not others. If I had to guess it was in Fear to Tread.

"My video on Lorgar will be rather sympathetic to him" The video on Lorgar: "he is the closest thing to evil on 40k"

Wait so Russ isn't a space Viking? It's just him playing his part, so what's he really like then?

I couldn't NOT hit like when you likened Clinton to a Chaos god.

16:14 my personal theory is that the Emperor knew Chaos was a thing, but wasn't aware that it was guided by the intelligence of the Chaos GODS. The shamans he had formed from had lived in a time before the chaos gods were a thing (Khorne formed in the middle ages, iirc), and had mostly dealt with proto-demons and warp beasts. So he knew that Chaos and the Warp were dangerous, but he thought of them like weather patterns or diseases: they can cause massive devastation, but they don't think and plan about it. It just kinda happens. At the same time, the Chaos Gods saw the Emperor as just another juicy candidate for bending to their will, perhaps Tzeentch given his tendency (at this stage) to work from the shadows. The idea that even the strongest psyker could truly pose a threat to chaos never even crossed their minds. So when the Emperor started to gather warp energy to form the Primarchs and met the chaos gods, it was a major eye-opener for both parties.

There was a part during the conversation of the emperor and the last priest on earth regarding things gestating in his underground laboratory to use to conquer the galaxy.

#BlameLogar

#blamelogar

If the Primark's were part warp thing It makes sense that some rebelled and went like a teen with a stepdad Told the emperor to fuck off and went with their "parents"

The Emperors influence on the age of technology is quite plausible as he may have had an idea or suspiscion of the threat of Chaos and its link to superstition etc. long before he knew any details. About the thought that one or more national leaders is a Chaos god (or worshiper thereof), that would explain some of the leaders we have seen in human history.

One way you can improve is by not just doing a long ass 30 minute video with one picture show us some pictures about the subject matter you're currently covering.

So, is Arch a Trump supporter? Or does he just dislike Clinton and Trump both?

You're my favorite lore guy right after bruva alfabusa

I can see the chaos gods messing with anyone who enter the warp.

Why do all of my favorite youtubers have to bring up politics all the time? I hear enough about that at work (I live in a heavy Trump area where everyone needs to make their opinion your business).

The Crusade was going great. Then Lorgar found religion...

The emperor himself was being created by a ritual that combined the souls of an unknown number of pykers, resulting in a super soul that was born as a regular human. I hypothesize that the primarks were created from splinters of the emperor’s own soul. As certain aspects of his own personality. He could only do 20 because he could not afford to spend more of his soul and he couldn’t create them with whatever personality he wanted because the splinter portion of soul had to match in to a functional character. When the primarks were sucked in to the wrap vortex inside his laboratory and drifted though the immaterium, the realm of ideas and thoughts, the composition of their souls subconsciously stirred towards worlds that were “in tune“ to them maybe the chaos gods “helped” in order to have a chance to corrupted them on their way to dominance over these worlds. May be the could have destroyed them but their ultimate goal was to bring down the Emperor and his plan to eradicate them. I bet they knew he would never ever came to the idea that his very own Soul would ever betray him. So if they were able to corrupt some of the primarks it be their best chance. That they took so much effort in this plan shows how treated they were by the emperor. Conquering the Galaxy pacify all worlds, destroy religion of any form and ban the use of pykic powers would have probably drained the chaos entity’s dry. At the point in time when everyone in the galaxy would have forgotten about them they would have sensed to exist (unfortunately that meant that all of the Eldar would have to be put to death as well since they would never forget) But look how well it worked. The imperium as it is in the forty-first millennium is the perfect breeding ground and play garden for chaos. Religious believe, powerful enough to shape the immaterium is everywhere. The Galaxy is constantly immerged in pain and suffering, bloodshed, death and corruption. There is only war. The chaos gods won 10000 years ago and now there just toying with their pray. I see 3 ways to get out of it: First the Eldar way. Kill the entirety of the galaxy and chaos will cease to exist. Second the tyrranid way: Eat the galaxy and move on --> same outcome. or the most difficult way continue the emperors plan with or without him. Every thing else will just keep the game of chaos gong.

magnus: i hate my father becasue i dont have spines

It's an interesting decision to treat a subject that is entirely fictional like it is factual and has actually happened, or will actually happen more like. It makes it all the more intriguing and fun to listen to I guess. Anyway, your warhammer videos are always a delight to watch.So keep up the good work!

another great vid arch

great video Arch

Thanks for the informative video.

3:15 Constable Kurze on duty... that would've been pretty cool.

Just in time to see this and the announcement of the burning of Prospero!!

well i can't wait for you to do videos for each one of them ^^

thanks for a great video arch. Speaking of the two we never speak of, considering they were used purely for those who wanted to create custom legions, have any of you created a custom legion? If so then tell me what they were below, I tend to love fan content considering that fans actually care for the series they're fans of.

there is more information on how the emperor fought chaos before the age of strife in several of the short stories. On the subject of who came first I suspect that the Castodias came first and that the thunder warriors were the first attempt at mass producing an army. While the thunder warriors were in ways similar to the Castodians unlike astartes the thunder warriors had no singular genetic base template for their gene enhancements or said enhancements where based on the flawed human gene pool of earth. The primarchs where I think intended for the roles and missions you stayed but I suspect the original intent was for them to lead armies of Thunder warriors into battle. I also think that the emperor tried to fix the Thunder warriors but in a mirror of Lore and Data found the problem to complex and proceeded to the next logical step which turned out to be the space marines.

new idea for a drinking game. Every time he says "we'll get into that some other time" take a shot, i guarantee you'll be fucked up by the end of the video

You know, listening to this again gave me an idea. I recently watched a video that asked what exactly the Emperor is. One of the possibilities is that he is in fact, a god or godlike entity, but one separate from god in the sense of Chaos. But there is another possibility that this made me consider. You said the Warp is pure energy, neither good nor bad. Chaos represents not evil but disorder. What if big E represents order? when a storm on earth occurs, its due to an imbalance in the properties of the atmosphere. the storm persists until the imbalance is resolved. what if big E is the Warp balancing out? if the warp went to shit during the war in heaven the imbalance was building. the fall of the Eldar was the storm surge. Big E could then be the re-balance needed to resolve the cause of the storm; the Chaos gods. it would make sense then that he would be the Anathema in the most literal sense. he could have also discovered that purpose once he entered the portal on Molek.

absolutely excellent. loved that.

It's not that they were "guided" per sey... just that they were going to be drawn to a matching warp energy signature. So the fact that they were drawn to worlds almost tailor made for them is a cause of why the were there. The only thing that explains travel to populated worlds at that distance is that their presence IS the explination.

Thanks for the vid sir.👍🏼👍🏼

Yuvath gate? The godemperor _was_ looking at making the equivalent of autonomous roomba he could program to clean up his galaxy and needed a power source.

The Emperor couldn't find a 2nd Primarch because he IS a master of hiding... a Sly Marbo!

omg the clinton part made me roll in my chair.

You are norwegian? Cool. You and BM are probably the best exports of that country.

It is mentioned in Vengeful Spirit that The Emperor went to Molech millennia before He appeared there ahead of the Great Crusade. Also Horus didn't "steal" the Chaos God's powers, The Emperor did, Horus however, earned it by fighting in the Warp for the various Gods. The Emperor and Horus both apparently spent about 300 years in the Warp however only seconds had passed in the Material realm.

In horus heresy the 2nd book. Horus get teleported during his treatment against the laer blade by erebus on the laboratory of primarch and is repeled by the emperor, the warp then take all the primarch etc.

I do like the thought of that each Primarch was made for a certain purpose. Makes me kinda want to think about what were each of their purpose in the Emperor’s grand plan.