Maybe he was Belakor himself 😲

oh you beat me to it lol

a interaction helps the almighty Algorithm =)

*TheSilverwings909* Except .. Alpharius is dead. Maybe .. its Omegon.

But I’m Alpharius!

@@peterwall8191 I mean dead people can still become daemon prince’s

@@juwebles4352 Joking dude. How many times has Alpharius died? I'm starting to think he's a perpetual; he always turns up ,like a bad penny, when you least expect him. Alpharius a daemon prince... idk he didn't do anything out standing to earn his Ascension. Compared to the rest, he's small fries.

@@peterwall8191 Both of them are second fiddle to the four GOAT Daemon Primarchs: Mortarion, Magnus, Fulgrim, and Angron, and there especially second to Be'lakor

Be'lakor is definitely similar to Starscream.

I was going to make this comment lol

My mean pre fragmented Unicron

I dunno man... Abby aint even got arms to fight with. Nor a horsy that eats daemons. heheh

Failbaddon the harmless couldn't kill anything really.

He killed Sigismund, and Endryd Haar

Abaddon would get easily throw to the side if Archaon even looked at him

Would be a cool fight but abby would win surely. Easy.

What a shame.

I wish there was something more I could say.

OHFUCK... BE'LAKORS last words. (For now)

noooo daddy be'lakor *sobbing*

A self fulfilling prophecy making sure that Abaddon makes the choices that in turn leads to Belakors creation and thus going back in time to ensure his creation

Abbadon's future self is a successful champion of chaos? This teaches us never to give up hope not even in 40k.

@@phreakazoith2237 but Abbadon wishes to not become bound to the 4 gods

@@velphidrow8317 And as we all know, Abaddon has a talent for achieving exactly the things he does not want to achieve.

@@velphidrow8317 So did Horus at first, Be'lakor still thinks he has free will. Chaos makes you think you are independent even when your free will is gone. The only ones who seem at all capable of using Chaos for their own ends without being entirely enslaved are the Iron Warriors and the Alpha Legion, and they still are used as tools by Chaos, they're just aware Chaos is trying to use them and make an active effort to avoid being used (but it's only slightly working). Maybe the Alpha Legion does think it's still on the path to defeating Chaos by using Chaos without realizing they're just empowering it without ever really weakening it. I think the real reason the Imperium hasn't been crushed by Chaos is because Chaos knew it would be destroyed if they completely won; what better way to empower themselves then creating a state of constant war (Khorne), constant plotting and backstabbing (Tzeentch), entire planets dedicated to debauchery (Slaanesh) and the slow decay of an entire civilization with stagnation (Nurgle).

To be fair, there are examples of Chaos Orks, but they are all wiped out by Eldar, humans or other Orks. I think GW kept Chaos to mostly humans so Chaos armies couldn't combine elements from the other factions. I mean, imagine a Khorne army made of Kroot, Goff Orks, World Eaters and Bloodletters on the tabletop.

There were the Laer, they worshipped Slannesh before the Emperor's Children wiped them out.

@John M. what about the chaos gods subconsciously creating Belakor like an immune system activating to protect the host

Same. I love idea of idk... Nurgle Eldars who join him to not get eated by She-Who-Wipe-Asses.

There's Chaos Eldar and an Eldar Daemon Prince in dome of the new Eldar books.

Which I've used... twice before? xD

No, Just No He will be Too Op to be Fight We already have Archeon to Deal with

what? no he wouldn't be OP, just very hard,late game chaos threat. You would have time to prepare for him

Based on how there are supposed to be 4 Chaos lords, my guess is Be'lakor is will either be DLC or a Legendary Hero unit.

@@robertnelson9599 they said there will be 9 legendary lords on launch, not including the pre-launch we will be getting. So one for each Chaos God, makes 4, and I think we can assume Kieslev and Cathey, will each have two, which makes 8, unless you think the Legendary lords won't be evenly distributed, but assuming they will, that does leave one out. My personal theory is we will get those 8 lords, and the Warriors of Chaos will get Be'lakor as a new lord, along with a rework.

he's getting a table top model

You should check out the Liber Chaotica. One of the best bits is when the Sigmarite Priest is within the domain of Tzeentch and sees Magnus the Red "Magnus, the mightiest of Tzeentch's minions, who has spawned a thousand sons" - subtle...

@@40KTheories and the time where it's believed that Kaldor Draigo went into the WH Fantasy world in the End Times.

Personally, my favorites are the two times when people in the World-That-Was glimpse Eldar.

@@40KTheories ïa ïa shub niggurath!

gw made so much they cant member it all anyway, hence why they havent tried to clean things up into a neater package

Tiamet is the Hive Fleet with abnormal resilience guarding some sort of Tyranid beacon, right?

@John M. but thats what i mean, about all the vague stuff. I do think they should clarify somethings at least. It opens up more story and merch options when your a author/creator and see all the diff theories fans make so why not expand into the missing lore going off some of the fans theories and in doing so show that we, the fandom, are helping to expand the 'in stone' universe in a more active way. And i will concede one selfish reason... I WANT KITTEN AS CANON! and maybe the tts magnus too lol

That’s by far the coolest idea I’ve seen so far. The idea he’s such a successful daemon that all others that followed based their template on him is just pure badass.

Before or after his arms drops off?

@@NetMoverSitan he used to have arms?

@@LAV-III He re-attaches them before each Black Crusade.

Sigmar fighting alongside the Emperor, Orks and Orruks headbutting each other and Be'lakor trying to turn Abaddon and Archaon against each other. Sounds awesome.

@@robertnelson9599 I mentioned it because I'm making a comic about it, The Non-mensional Fuckery. Not only it will have Fantasy and 40K clashing with each other, but it'll also see Doom, Quake, Worm, Commander Keen, Gears of War, Marathon, etc.

@@juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370 I REALLY hope we get a Quake 1 sequel; they've all but confirmed outright that DOOM exists in a multiverse using slipgates to travel between them (the ones from Quake) heavily implying that DOOM takes place in the same multiverse as Quake; maybe they could even get Sandy Peterson to write some of the story for Quake (since he is still really prevalent in Lovecraftian horror, I know he wasn't too impressed with Doom:Eternal but without playing 2016 it's kinda hard to get into it; if he did go through DOOM 2016 first then go through Eternal I honestly think he would really appreciate the direction), imagine if we got to play as Ranger traveling in Lovecraftian realms trying to find a way to return to earth. This time they could include some of the RPG elements they wanted to put in Quake originally (it wasn't even planned to be a shooter, but I don't think they should take that part out). Imagine how good a Quake 1 style art direction would look with IDTech 7 and they environmental artists who worked on DOOM: Eternal. In a lot of ways new Doom is closer to Quake than it is to old Doom (the gameplay is a lot closer to Quake, and some of the areas in DOOM: Eternal look more inspired by Quake then old Doom). Also who owns the rights for Marathon? I don't know of anything new being done with the IP so it might be in limbo (like how Wolfenstein existed before ID and ID just kinda took it since it was available) but if it's not in limbo does Bungie still own it? Has it even had any official rereleases in recent times?

@@robertnelson9599 well there have bbeen fan fiction like Sigmar was one of the lost primarch.

@@brotheralaric7177 It'll start like this: 12 powerful men and beings from the Prime Veil (aka. our reality) get bored of fighting ISIS and other malcontents. Seeing they have no enemy or something that could interest them here, they combined their knowledge and abilities to find enemies and thrills somewhere else, the fictional worlds. Due to a _very_ hilarious mishap, the boundaries keeping these Nonverses separate (copyright, tones, differences, etc.) collapse and burn, making them real in their own and opening Rigs from one place to the other. Examples of the mess include: Doom Slayer finding his father, the Chaos Gods fighting the Elder Gods, Skitter meeting with Cole McGrath, etc.

Yes. 1AM in the morning for me to be precise. Lol

Ah yes morning.

For me it is 7am, but in the USA 1am 😉

@@Pickatimatrina, Ah yes it's gloriously late here.

10:26 pm

Ofuc.....*Banished*

But isn't Slaanesh a single-minded entity? "They" would imply that chaos god is some form of hivemind

@@user-cd8ke3it3w I mean, not really? Like when you tall about someone you don't know, you say they cus you don't know their gender, or for people who are outside the binary, like non-binary people, or generfluid people etc, and I mean, technically speaking, slaanesh could be a fucking hivemind, they can literally shape shift 😂😂

@@cheeselovar oops, I forgot that trans people use "they"

@@user-cd8ke3it3w Oh well, only some. It's an honest mistake to make and I find it's best to ask with Trans and non-bibary people.

Source?

Same as you

I don’t need sleep, I need answers

I can’t stop hearing this in Dorn’s voice and I have no idea why

Isn't though? Have you ever seen Bela'kor and Molag Bal together in the same room at the same time?

@@j.bat.8235 I mean, regarding the warp, seeing two characters together in the same room doesn’t really prove anything.

@@Gormathius which is a pretty fair point.

Fuck that would be actually pretty interesting. Imagine Be'lakor meeting with the Silent King

Ummmm not Likely The Old Ones Would Look at the Chaos Gods as If They Were Bugs Because The Old Ones are On The Contrary Could Bring Back The Immaterium (Realm of souls in the Past) back into it's Normal State

Old Ones would shit on Chaos. Look at War in Heaven Aeldar myth. Chaos wasn't born yet during that time. The war created Chaos.

To make my shotgun of an idea a little less dumb, not at a peak of their power as a race Old One. I was thinking more a last desperate survivor of The War in Heaven and Enslavers.

If I'm not mistaken Lord Mortkin.

Yes, perhaps I should have been clearer in this regard (it's easy to confuse aspects of WHFB with AoS these days lol). In either case the point about the "multiverse" still stands.

That could be said of the archons from fantasy and sigmar as well. Belakor belongs to neither world.

Yup

You may wish to keep watching in regards to the "coming after Slaanesh" thing... :P

@@40KTheories ah ok, i was listening in the car and reached my destination. I'll pick it up after. Cheers.

@@40KTheories Did i miss something? I watched the whole vid and nothing more about slaanesh was said

It was more in regards to how it technically doesn't matter in regards to when Slaanesh was born, since once they come into existence they have by extension always existed, as seen with Slaaneshi daemons running around 65,000,000 years before Slaanesh's creation. By extension this means that Be'lakor can easily have come into existence prior to Slaanesh's birth.

The middle is the Great Beast. All the gods together as a whole. Chaos undivided.

Well assuming other chaos gods exist. We need two more because malice takes its place. Quite frankly I don't think the 8 might actually refer to gods but rather the ever consuming power emanating from chaos itself. A spin on the cardinal directions.

@@Aceshot-uu7yx Yeah, that and I also see them fusing together to make a god of chaos united. But thats me

@@antcow1239 I don't see it happening. The great game itself serves all their interests. It is in essence the center from which its expansion flows. The more gods the more the game expands. There is no winner because to do so would stop expansion they all need. But if they did combine to one god of chaos united then I think the obvious answer would be them combining into dan abnett, the strongest chaos god of change for completely changing the 40k universe irreparably and expanding it.

@@Aceshot-uu7yx Yeah, probably XD

I touch up upon this in the video itself when talking about Shaha Gaathon

@@40KTheories Must’ve missed that. Been a bit loopy lately.

its zorin the bear the voice actor of leman russ and lorn

@@YOGI-kb9tg It's not, look at the descreption.

@@JoaoPedro-sm6oi dude read the fucking line above it

@@YOGI-kb9tg yea and i am talking of The Guy who dub Kaldor Draigo not Russ and Iorn, The person who dub him is not Zorin It's Germineye, só WTF are you talking about?

Nooo

It’s a staple of the channel, just like every video about the Imperium including «during the events of the Horus Heresy...» at some point.