Good for you. Do it where it won't show up after powder coating in less time than the sheet is worth and I'll hire you

@@42Fab First off, everyone is human and we all make mistakes, and we all can learn something new or better every day. Anyways, it looks like you were working with a 4x8 foot plate of 12ga. I found some sources that put the price of it at an average price of US$90.00, and weighting in at 140 pounds. So, $90 plus tax and shipping, and then minus the scrape value of the plate ($1.40), puts the true value of it at around $100. Correct me if I am wrong. I would say a regular skilled fabractor/welder/laboror probably gets around $20 to $22/hr. If it was me, I would of grabbed some silicon bronze tig rods and filled up those zip cut marks. (use the bronze to keep the warping out of the picture.) melting point of bronze = 1900f and steel = 2700f. From there I'd hit it with a flap disc like you showed us later in the video, but would probably use 120 to 180 grit to knock the high spots down. Then I would hit it with a courser 80 grit on a DA sander then 120 grit then 180. After that, the primer powder coat and UV stable powder top coat would completely take care of the rest. All that in around 0.5hr to 0.75hr, or $11 to $16.5 for labor and maby $6 worth of tig rod and sanding supplies. Plus, it was said, taking a quick 20 minutes to make or do something is no big deal, coupled with $10 worth of tubing. And I know what your thinking, the guy who is fixing that 12ga plate, could be running the cnc plasma machine, cutting different steel for a different project, making the company way more profit, then having him brazing and sanding the old plate, but, how can he do that, when he, or someone else is using that machine to cut out a totally new sign out? (this is assuming the plasma cutter is always booked up, cutting away) Also, you should consider, if you cut out a completely new sign out of a new 12ga plate, you will be taking time away from other, highly profitable jobs, that you could be running with the plasma cutter (the reason someone buys or builds a cnc plasma cutting machine in the first place). So, if you were to re-work that old sign, you could save around $77.5, plus save space in the scrap bin, and possibly saved power costs of running the plasma program twice (running the machine costs more than running a small tig welder, grinder, and DA sander for that short amount of time). Not to mention, keeping the plasma cutter open for the next profitable job. Correct me if I'm wrong. Have a great day.

@@jakefriesenjake your numbers on material are fine, except I get free delivery. I'd love if my table was always running but that isn't the case. Also, the electricity used to make that cut is negligible. Where you're off is labor rate. I am the skilled welder on my shop, my rate is $100 an hour. Getting a machine out, cleaning metal, the work, cleaning up, etc would easily take an hour. AND all that ignores the fact that a high quality (and priced accordingly) product like mine should not have repairs in it before it ever goes out the door. The issue isn't even really price, it's pride in your work. We all decide what we stand for, I chose quality. I'm amazed at how many people are arguing with me that making a higher quality (non repaired) product is somehow a bad thing. It's sad really. But hey, maybe that's why you're quoting a labor rate that's 1/4 of mine...

@@42Fab Obviously, the boss or manager with high credentials shouldn't have to do the fixing when he could be doing something like running the cnc, where someone else isn't qualified to run it. I know your personal labor rate is more, and that you also have workers working under you at around the $20 per hour mark. They can't all be making $100/hr? But if they are, and your plasma table is not always in use, then I guess you could just throw that sucker in the trash and start over. I don't know what the whole job was quoted at, so maybe it really would be better to toss it. At the same time, at 5 feet you wouldn't of seen the marks with no work put into the fix, I would bet, without even tig welding it, I could of feathered it out in even less time (15 minutes) and by the time it got back from the powder coaters, it would not be noticeable at 1 foot. Fixes are always acceptable, especially if you do them right the first time. Besides, you said, if it was coated with regular primer and paint, you would of filled it up nice, and feathered it out with bondo? So what is it? Even high end cars get a swipe of bondo here and there. If the sign wasn't to be sent out for a professional powder job, would it of been ok to bondo the sign up and give it a spray job? At the end of the day, it is just a sign, meant to be viewed at least 30 foot away. The sign turned out looking great. Thanks for the quick response.

Alright man, we're done here as you've obviously planted your flag and don't care what the ACTUAL reasons were. I'll give a final reply then delete this whole thread if you want to keep it going. I'll repeat that my products are of the highest quality my shop can output. A painted sign isn't that, which is why it would allow for repairs if the customer acknowledged they were budget-restricted and we happened to be slow that week (infact, we bondo'd then painted the "mistake" sign and are using it as a display piece alongside the positive cutouts that were shown). The difference between you and I is that you're okay with something "being good enough from 30 feet" or even 5 or 1. I am not. My business is built on high quality products (not "just a sign"), delivered quickly. "Good, Fast, Cheap, pick two" my customers are not coming to me to pick anything but the first two. The fact you think that the cuts wouldn't be visible at 5 feet demonstrates either a lack of visual acuity or abundant inexperience as even so much as a reverse-side weld scar is visible in powder from 20+ feet. But hey, you've planted your flag, let's see if you've got the balls to back it up. As I said, we have the sign, and I'd be happy to strip the bondo and paint back off it. I'll publicly wager $1,000 you can't have the repair done and unnoticeable from 1' (post powder coating) within 15 minutes. I'll even make a video about it and post it win or lose. Your obviously impending winnings should more than cover your trip to Oklahoma. I prefer large bills.

Man, I do it enough I bought the air mattress

@@42Fab hey ... Hustle like that long enough and you'll be chillin at the lake while someone else is sleeping at the shop making you money... Lol

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Nice work. It seems like you built $25,000.00 worth of signs, conservatively.

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StrongLike Bull thats a 30 dollar sheet. For a 3k job why not

$90 at the time. Point still stands

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@@adamw225 very kind, thankyou Adam!

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I think his channel is about to blow up!

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Thanks, they are a bit more work, but worth it to me

I wish, KZfaq isn't the profitable games many think it is. I do it as advertising and because I like the community. Thanks!

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I guess I said the same to you at skiatook. Thanks for watching!

@@42Fab I thought this was you but wasn't for sure. 👊

Heck, start your own, that's what I did.

@@42Fab I couldnt afford a table at the moment :/ maybe a small one when taxs come back . I'm a single father with Multiple sclerosis so saving isnt easy. I do weld but never was certified and really only work out of my garage but I need to upgrade my electrical pannel . You've got such a refreshing personality , really great to see in a world that has so many trying to behave savagely. Any advice however is greatly appreciated as to how to begin .

@@42Fab any recommendations on a first table for starting up ?

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I needed that "vacation" so bad

With how much we wash our hands due to the grease/oil, and using nice moisturizing soap with pumice sand in it, they're actually not very rough. Lots of nicks and scratches though

does everything my corded does, just a bit heavier. I have 5 now so I don't have to change disks