44 kW micro-grid Victron and Fronius Setup with 52kWh storage

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Ай бұрын

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Welcome to our detailed walkthrough of a cutting-edge 44 kW micro-grid setup featuring Victron and Fronius components! 🌞🔋
Components:
3 x Victron Multiplus-II 48/10000VA
1 x Fronius Symo 20 kW
110 x Trina Solar 400W module
2 x Victron MPPT 250/100
1 x Victron MPPT RS 450/200
1 x Victron Ekrano GX
4 x Victron Lynx Distribuitor
1 x Victron Lynx Shunt
1 x Schneider Cabinet PrismaSeT
In this video, we'll explore:
The benefits of a 44 kW micro-grid system
How Victron and Fronius technologies integrate seamlessly
Step-by-step installation and configuration
Real-world performance and efficiency data
How we charge our cars even if grid is down
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@sp3c14l1st Ай бұрын

great setup, clean !

@StanislavLakhtin Ай бұрын

Very nice. All looks very flexible and reasonable.

@JamesHanley-kg6ki Ай бұрын

Fantastic system! I really enjoy your videos, thank you!

@thecstechvideos Ай бұрын

Hehe, wait few weeks....new studios :)

@skoto.power.systems 19 күн бұрын

Magnificent job❤❤❤, that is awesome. I love it.

@michaelchownyk5255 Ай бұрын

You did an excellent job on that solar inverter system. I live off grid with an electric car and I can appreciate how powerful and clean that install is. All you need now is about 300 kWh of lithium battery and you’ll be laughing

@razvanduta3563 Ай бұрын

Bravo, arata foarte bine. Exact ce ma gadesc de cateva zile sa fac - un system trifazat, mai ales ca Invertoarele de la Victron sunt asa ieftine acum.

@sidperry7748 18 күн бұрын

That is a piece of art 👌

@thecstechvideos 17 күн бұрын

Hehe 😜

@TeeDolder Ай бұрын

Wow Nice 👌

@peterk.4266 Ай бұрын

Clean.

@zuzantator9918 Ай бұрын

I like how it was done.

@thecstechvideos Ай бұрын

Hehe, thanks

@garbi8526 Ай бұрын

I recommend you invest in lifepo4 prismatic cells. The diy boxes for the lf280k are pretty good, with jk inverter bms (1/3 of the cost of the victron batteries) . Have a look on Andy from Off-Grid garage.

@helmo5663 Ай бұрын

I would also second this. For your large system you should at least use 3 boxes DIY with the new EVE MB31 cells and JK BMS. I am at the moment in the process building my third box with 16,4kWh for less than 2000 Euro. The BMS will do a very good job.

@andreasw5925 Ай бұрын

I can confirm this. I run 5 Jk inverter bms now, the 200A version with 2A balancing power. They have still some small issues (see the offgrid garage video about “has DC power”) but the overall price is great with eve 280k v3 and eel v4 case one box was less than 1500€ for 14.4 kWh each. Victron CAN is supported.

@JdZ-2023 Ай бұрын

Really great setup. Do you have an electric drawing of your installation and power cabinet that we can view? I would like to see that.

@thecstechvideos Ай бұрын

I just finish the setup, the paper aren’t ready yet 😀, but I will make some videos regarding what’s inside

@damianzakutansky6956 Ай бұрын

Your instalation looks well-thought-out, really inspirative! Looking forward to any further details how it works and is made behind the covers :)

@derfreiemensch 3 күн бұрын

Great, but next time turn the fuse over, then you can immediately see whether it is still intact or defective

@0xdeadc0de 23 күн бұрын

Top 👍🏻

@fkwvdpol Ай бұрын

Congratulation with your very neat looking install. It's one of the cleanest I've seen. Love the idea of using the Schneider cabinet for the AC and DC distribution. One question: why are you having a Lynx distributor on the right side to the Lynx, but NOT using this to connect your batteries? (The batteries are now connected to the bus link, which could have also been connected to the Shunt)

@thecstechvideos Ай бұрын

Thanks! Regarding Lynx on the right side, I plan ro upgrade the batteries and use multiple conductors for connect to system and I want to put fuses there.

@user-mk4yk3rz2v 6 күн бұрын

Super system, well done, Im a bit jealous :-). Beautifully connected. How does the Fronius throttle down (delivering less power when the grid has a failure, no power from the grid) and your batteries are full (SOC 100%) ?? are you using zero feed in from Fronius ? to prevent overloading the batteries ?

@thecstechvideos 6 күн бұрын

Fronius has country code set to MG50 (micro-grid) and Victron know that a Fronius is present and send limitation via frequency. Basically modulate frequency and this reduce or increase Fronius production.

@christianvanderstap6257 Ай бұрын

This looks like a well thought out system. Do you have a schematic of this system so I can learn how the components interact?

@maanabdulkarim7474 Ай бұрын

Great set up and configuration so can you show us how many solar panels you use and the area that needs... I think it's so interesting 🤔

@thecstechvideos Ай бұрын

Ok, I’ll do an material 🤔

@Ernest_son Ай бұрын

Really nice setup. When I grow up I'll have one of those. Thanks for sharing.

@bengoevaerts Ай бұрын

Very nice setup! Always looking forward to watch your videos. Question: What is the max. off-grid power at night, without solar?

@thecstechvideos Ай бұрын

Sorry, but not understand the question. What is the max power that can be used in the night in off-grid mode? If that’s the question, is around 24 kW max!

@bengoevaerts Ай бұрын

@@thecstechvideos I guess how much can you draw from the battery if there's no sun & no grid? If it's 24kW at 48V that would be 500A from the battery? Can the batteries handle that? Thanks!

@nielstammeling Ай бұрын

Hi CS Tech, very nice installation! You did an excellent job. Also like the big Prisma Schneider electric distribution box. Question: Between the Multiplus and lynx distributor, it seems you didnt install a DC switch. Is it not necessery? With bigger systems, we are using ETI knife blade fuse and holder, but its expensive. What would you recommend? The normal red DC battery switch is only usable for 3 en 5kVA multiplus.

@thecstechvideos Ай бұрын

Is necessary, but since i have 3 phase system I prefer to shut down all once and for that I have a Gigavac contractor already on general positive from battery that can disconnect the entire DC from whole system. More videos will come about this 😃

@infinitty.96 Ай бұрын

❤❤

@cdrbmw 26 күн бұрын

Sweeeeet :-)

@Leksi80 Ай бұрын

Great looking clean setup. Just one thing grabbed my attention. Is the 450/200 MPPT grounded since I don't see a wire for that? Seems the 2 smaller ones are grounded with the same wire.

@thecstechvideos Ай бұрын

Is grounded :)

@andrewmcleod9312 27 күн бұрын

Lost for words.. Except, I want one LoL !!

@hm93972 Ай бұрын

Great set up. Which Fronius are you using?

@thecstechvideos Ай бұрын

Thanks! Is Fronius SYmo 20 kW

@ricardophelps6323 Ай бұрын

Very nice install you should look at a battery shelf with 3 or 4 15KW batteries. LFP cells 280AH are now only €80 each so you could build 60KW (64 cells) with x4 BMS for €6K and cycle between 20 - 80% DOD for 25 yr battery. CATL cells are the best >8,000 cycles

@thecstechvideos Ай бұрын

I will have the new Victron Battery direcly on 48V and I'll install around 82 kWh. I wait them to release :)

@ricardophelps6323 Ай бұрын

@@thecstechvideos Does such a battery exist by Victron? I see no information

@oldnavyjr82 Ай бұрын

Cool system. What was your annual consumption before this installation? What is your self sufficiency % now ?

@thecstechvideos Ай бұрын

Befor update, last year I had a consumtion around 23 MWh :) three electric cars, heating for 350 SQM and all electric appliances…servers. Self sufficient from solar and batteries was around 59%. I hope this year to increase whit this setup to 75-80% from green energy. You can check my setup live on cstech.ro/productie-sistem-fotovoltaic-cstech-live

@andreasw5925 Ай бұрын

Nice setup. A Part of the Solar and battery DIY Community is about to replace the mega fuses since there was a fire in the US where, the insurance claims, the arc of a blown fuse caused the fire. Do you think it’s worth to take a look at this topic or are you ok with mega fuses and trust them?

@thecstechvideos Ай бұрын

I don't believe the fire start because of mega-fuse. Is around 40-60V there and the arc can't be so big to melt and set fire to the fuse. Probably there was an imperfect contact or a screw loose or not was tight at the correct torque. Or maybe an undersized conductor...who knows, we need to see to believe :)

@andreasw5925 Ай бұрын

@@thecstechvideos I also don’t believe it. That might be just a reason so the insurance has something. But if you have a huge system the current can get quite high in case of a short and the official specs of the fuse could be not sufficient.

@TushhsuT Ай бұрын

@@thecstechvideos The problem is not the voltage, but the current. The internal resistance of cells is really small and it allows them to keep huge short circuit current -hundreds of amperes. The voltage is small and not enough to start an arc - right. But you think about it in open state. The real situation is different - the circuit works, then suddenly a short circuit happens. The fuse melts. And during this melting the gap is not instantly appears - it starts small and then increases (all in milliseconds timescale). And extremely hot gas from this melted fuse decreases the voltage needed to start an arc, and it starts! And once started, having hundreds of amperes in flow as plasma, it can cover gaps of centimeters(inches also). All welding works like this - bring electrode in or almost in contact, start arc, increase the gap. That is really serious thing and "I don't believe in it" is not a safe enough safety measure :)

@cdrbmw 26 күн бұрын

What is the cost of a system like this? roughly.

@RandomPenner Ай бұрын

Hi Mate. What fuse do you use in the shunt? Thanks

@thecstechvideos Ай бұрын

ANL 500A

@CosimoBisello 16 күн бұрын

Hi, I'm about to build a similar but single-phase system with Victron and Fronius. First, I also activated the Fronius microgrid, but I would like it not to absorb even 1 W from the network, as you did, in particular the coupling is at the input to the victron or in ac out of the victron?

@thecstechvideos 16 күн бұрын

In this setup, Fronius is on Victron OUTPUT and on victron input, on grid connection point I install a Victron meter so I can limit everything.

@CosimoBisello 16 күн бұрын

@@thecstechvideos so is fronius in parallel to the home load? If they were to cut off the power, what protection would there be? To function, my Fronius is automatically connected to the network via Italian CEI 021 regulation. What do you recommend, can I still connect it to AC OUT Victron?