If the 4th dimension is time then real life is an autoscroller

Since I don't think anyone has asked yet, how big are world sizes going to be? The fourth dimension can store a lot of blocks.

Being a 3D being in a 4D world must feel extremely cold, with how all your organs and fluids would be exposed to the fourth axis.

So far, the "Deadly" ore is purely quality of life, how are you gonna make this thing deadly? A 4D gun? A 4D sword?

Are you going to make naturally spawning structures that could use the 4 dimensions in creative ways? Also are you going to add non-hostile mobs like animals?

I love how unique this is. Not only is it 4D, but instead of using e and q to slide your 3d cross-section along W, you rotate! I have never seen that before.

I think there should be some kind of “4d snap” feature, where when you push a certain button, when you scroll it’ll snap to each meter in the 4d world. This would work especially well with the strafing mechanic.

all those W-aligned organs must make for some pretty easy targets. One moment you're safe, the next you get stabbed from an unseen direction completely unprovoked. In your last moments you might realize, that cave you mined opened the door for hyperspiders into someone's base. or the more likely event, they were unrelated to that and just wanted to fight someone.

You could handle PVP like Terraria does it: you can change your "team" in the inventory, and players in other teams will not be shown on the map or minimap. And speaking of a minimap, that would be nice too, maybe using color to show which W coordinate other players are on.

will equipment slots be a thing? its kind of inconvenient to have to hold the 4d glasses to use them

Adding a distance fog akin to silent hill to hide the render distance limitations would go well with the 4D spiders comming out of nowhere.

it would be nice if the shortcuts to align yourself were a bit more gradual, it's kinda disorienting having everything unload and reload while your view is snapped around

I think it would be a mistake to not pick a focus for the game. Not doing that could mean that you probably won’t be able to pick a direction for it, leading to feature-creep. If you know about Yandere Simulator, that’s the exact problem that it has… Think about the difference between Minecraft, Terraria, Subnautica and Raft. Each has a different mix of combat, building, random events and progression, leading to 4 different games. It’s just that you can’t make all 4 at once (think, Minecraft’s design principles, and how the other 3 absolutely destroy them)

Will you add like equipment or armor slots? Bc it kinda feels unnecessary to hold the 4d glasses with ur hands

This idea is so fascinating, i want to try making a 4D game now, I think you may have started a new 4D renaissance my friend.

This is really cool. When I first clicked your first video on it, I'll be honest, I figured this was another one of those cool demo games that was just a proof of concept but nothing more. But that was until I saw that you have a whole Kickstarter for it and that you have all kinds of cool ideas, from yourself and others. For example, I really like the idea of having a potential final boss as the being that brought you to the four dimensional space. I'm excited to see what this might turn into! also sorry if my words are weird im commenting late at night which is probably not a good idea lol

Defeating a "final enemy" and returning to a 3D world seems more of a hinderance to the experience. Take the Minecraft ending for example. If you defeated the dragon and the game ended there, there wouldn't be a lot of fun left to be had. I think as a 3D being getting trapped in a 4D game, I think the player should embrace their new life. Perhaps not a return to their old, but ascending even higher as they became essentially a God to what they used to be.

One thing that kinda bugs me (besides how the texture tiles are displayed when rotated) that I hadn’t quite put my finger on until the 4:50 diagram was this: the 3 dimensional being is not directly interacting with 4 dimensional space, instead each being contains a personal slice of 3 dimensional space that they superimpose onto existing 4 dimensional space when interacting with it. This is most apparent in the rendering system, at least on the conceptual side of things and not the mechanical. Any light taken in by the retinas is literally bound to the 3 dimensional physics of the plane, and cannot perceive any light moving on a 4 dimensional path. Let me use flatland as my basis here for further arguments. The protagonist of flatland is a 2 dimensional being from a 2 dimensional world that is momentarily plucked from his reality by a 3 dimensional being in order to broaden his horizons of dimensional physics. The main character of flatland, when in 3 dimensional space, is able to see in 3 dimensions, more or less. Because light was moving in 3 dimensions, bouncing around and flowing in 3 dimensions and thereby being picked up in 3 dimensions. I see no base reason a 3 dimensional being placed raw into a 4 dimensional space wouldn’t be able to see in 4 dimensions. And I do say raw because there’s an easy lore explanation for this discrepancy in 4d miner that is already supported by the existing plot. Whatever 4 dimensional being that isekai’d the protagonist of 4d miner has for health and safety reasons has given or attached some manner of device to our avatar that superimposes a slice of 3dimensional space that our protagonist exists in. This slice both filters the 4d reality into something easier to comprehend, and applies an amount of pressurization/stability to our avatar’s body so that their insides don’t just immediately spill out everywhere through the fourth dimension. This is the main purpose of the device that allows our protagonist to rotate in the fourth dimension, i.e. why I said that this explanation was already supported in game. Not that many players would stop to think about that anyway, but they might if given the circumstances or contextual clues to do so. By the way I’m of the understanding that particles themselves do not have dimensionality and the N-dimensionality of a space they’re in only determines the ways that they can move around and link up with each other into structures, ergo there’s no difference between a 3d hydrogen atom and a 4d hydrogen atom because they are the same thing. Moreover I think particles are just excitations of spacetime that form when enough energy condenses in one place.

The random pillars need to be a feature

I would love to see this game detach from Minecraft. Sure, mc is still a hype and it helps to get attention and funding. But it is also kind of a restriction, and it makes the game look more like a cheap imitation like the thousand others jumping on the hype train, while in actuality it has an incredibly cool core idea that can carry the game on its own. I don't necessarily suggest to diverge from the build/explore/survive pattern, but already making the game look visually distinct could help it establishing its own brand. E.g. I have the feeling that the "earthly outdoors setting" (grass blocks, trees, stone) isn't the right fit for this game, but either a more futuristic or alien like environment could work better. I am thinking either of a theme closer to the game "antichamber" (blocks could be monochromic or neon) or perhaps the mc end dimension. Please don't make another mc clone that no one cares about anymore in a few months.

The only thing I want to see in this game is an end. Not a requirement, but a way to send off the game if you feel like your time with it is over. Too many survival games just don't have ends, and the ones that do are too underwhelming for me to enjoy them. If you could make an ending (a cool one at that) I'd be head over heels for it. Maybe with multiplayer, the ending could just be a solo thing where one person can beat it, but others can still play maybe getting a message like "PLAYERNAME escaped the 4-D plane!" Overall, I love this game and I cannot wait to play it a ton once it's finished!

It would be incredibly interesting to see how combat in 4D would play out… Because players and mobs are existing on different planes, this makes it possible to strike the insides of a player, skipping their skin, muscles, and bones, and directly stabbing organs. Some sort of 4D shield mechanic that protects you, but does increased damage if you’re hit in a cross-section of your 3D body would be interesting…

You should have those hyperspheres and tesseracts as part of the world generation, as additional structures after the terrain is done, where they can fit.

I hope your channel explodes one day, the quality of the videos are pretty high ngl.

A tip on the Final Boss/Storyline thing; Make it so that once you are able to escape the 4D World and return to your 3D world, you will become into a 4D Being, because the effects of the 4D world changes the persons characteristics from 3D to 4D (in game randomly you could add some effects to slowly show the transformation). This would be epic since, we have seen a 3D View of a 4D World, but now we can also see a 4D View of a 3D world.

Suggestion: you could add another dimention (in a nether/end meaning of the word) that would use procedural generation alike caves in Minecraft 1.18 and make it far more chaotic so that it would be harder and more fun to explore

I always wanted to make this but never got enough time! Thanks for making my dream!

When using the 4D Glasses to view items that are currently invisible to you, shouldn't the wireframes appear on both sides of you, reflected across the y-axis? If you can see an item, you should be able to rotate the world 180° and it would appear behind you. I have not tried out the demo yet, so my understanding might be wrong, but is this how the item functions?

I hope you'll add visible rotation to those perpendicular snap movements. That's how Fez works, which is roughly equivalent to the concept you showed of a 2D character moving through a 3D world for context last time. Fez's visible camera rotation is extremely helpful to avoid getting disoriented, but of course it looks like you also need to work out some rendering lag that I'm sure is a result of an extremely mathematically complex process that I don't understand. Fez also has visible edges on its 3D blocks so you can see where the corners are. I'm not sure what this would look like in your game, but it's at least worth considering. Another feature I'd like to see is the volumetric doors from Antichamber, allowing you to create sprawling, recursive structures packed densely into a tiny part of the world. Going forward, I think it's important to keep the functionality of the visual style in mind, because just being able to *see* the contrast between different parts of the world is vital to keeping yourself oriented in 4D space. That's why Antichamber has such harsh, simplistic visuals. They're literally necessary in order to process the visual information. Besides, the way light propogates through a 4D environment is purely theoretical, so you can technically do whatever you want with it

Imagine this in vr, to see in an actual 3D screen. This could be amazing

I love how the enemies (hyperspiders) force you to always be looking at all parts of the world instead of sticking to a fixed 3D slice of it

Tbh the idea of being able to see the insides of other players is kinda disturbing. Maybe make it so the cross sections of players are just some "solid" color (eg. different shades of red) Edit: also maybe add a crafting system sort of like the one in Minecraft, but a crafting table would give you a 3x3x3 grid instead of a simple 3x3 grid.

This is really cool! I'd never think someone would try something like this. 😊 Alright, question time: How does the block texturing work? As someone with an interest in Pixel Art I'm really curious how you got this to work

I absolutely love what you're doing! I'm a former linguist and programmer who became based on perspectives something in between a living deity and an absolute fool who believes in magic. But without discussing "magick", i actually have had a lot of issues imagining how the upper dimensions inject into our reality. Having seen your first video, it felt like the mental upgrade of the decade maybe because your approach with the mouse wheel, it's so easily understandable and allows to actually experiment with a 4d environment and in my mind, something finally clicked and my ability to imagine the multiverse in a visual representation, it improved by a lot. So did my understanding of how this dimensional shifting works and how it doesn't affect anyones will if you change your 5d perspective (4d contains the timeline) on a person and suddenly they approach you with a different character doing things they'd normally not do: It's just the same multidimensional beings meeting each otjer, just the new angle creates a fully different momentary representation. Please be so kind as to keep the idea "minecraft within the multiverse" in mind as you keep developing. Kindly yours, source

I have a suggestion for controlling the section hyperplane in 4D: currently it is implemented via scrolling, which fixes two arbitrary axes in 4D (actually, just one arbitrary axis, I agree that the downwards direction isn't arbitrary). Factoring out the down direction, we have a 3-space in which we need to choose a section plane, or equivalently, its normal vector. We know how to control a vector in 3D with the usual input tools (mouse, controller), eg we control the vector of viewing direction in any ego shooter or mc with ease. So how about this: instead of scrolling, pressing and HOLDING the middle key (or mouse wheel) switches in the section plane selection mode, and as long as the key is pressed you are controlling the normal vector of the section plane like you would control the viewing direction in an ego shooter. I agree there is some difficulty in choosing the right basis in a freely adjustable section plane in a continuous way, but I think this is nothing that cannot be solved. I don't know whether this is a good idea, but I would like see this explored and tested. I have never seen an implementation of this.

Does lighting work differently in 4D? I would think so, since the light source (like the "sun") is also a 4D object and reflection & stuff also would work in 4 spatial dimensions.

I love the "align to this block" idea. My first thought after bases was a bridge, with a block on either end - click it and suddenly you have a bridge to span a chasm.

This is honestly a very cool project! I can't wait to see how it unfolds!

Will you polish the graphic and shaders in the full release? And what kind of visual would you seek, when we think about a 4th dimensional world?

I love this so much, can't wait for more features. :)

I saw your first video about 4D Minecraft as soon as you uploaded it on my main page and i watched it with my gf who doesent know sh*t about physics and dont care about it but she was amazed with 4D world and today another video of yours popped up on my main page and i was shooked how much progress you've made Man You and Your discord server all of the people that contribiuted to this game its amazing keep it up

You earned my sub, i am in love with this concept. I wish this becomes very successful.

5:23 For my personal taste, I'd rather see performance prioritized over graphics. Moving smoothly in 4D is a big help to understanding what's going on. In the current demo (which doesn't seem to show a version number), my game stutters when I turn the mouse wheel in a new location, perhaps to generate chunks around me. I can mitigate it by taking the render distance down to 3, but three chunks isn't very far, especially without a fog plane to hide the abrupt cutoff.

I’m halfway watching this video after the one from a month ago. I assumed by the title of the first video that this was some one time game some dev made to get views because it’s based off Minecraft. I wanna say that I’m impressed by this game. Can’t wait to see what you add in the future

will 4D glasses stay as a hand item or will it become something you can wear?

last night, you had around 28-29k subs, now you have 31k+, well deserved. the algorithm is doing you well.

This is one of the coolest things I’ve seen in a while

I watched the whole last video. I think a neat feature for a "neather" would be that it controls the 4D space without your interaction. Making movement etc much more difficult.

broo i am so hyped for this

Being kidnaped by a 4D being, defeating them, and returning to your 3D world could work within the structure of the Monomyth for the narritive (the Hero's Journey)

I would love to see a lot more content added to the game!

I was sucked in immediately but I was afraid it would hurt my brain the whole time. It sort of gives me flashbacks but I’m okay. I’m here for the q&a!

Dude had only 5k subs a few hours earlier... great to see such a wonderfull channel explode like this

With how robotically he speaks in his videos, my running theory is that he is actually a 4D being sent to train us mere 3D beings.

Is there any plans to test out other configs of blocks, like hexagon, triangles, etc to see which are more natural or work better in 4d space. Are cubes the most optimal shape for 4D?

how did you manage to create a game that actually goes beyond human's limits of this 3d realm

Quick question for your next qna type thing: Do you plan on fleshing this game out to be as long a game as Minecraft or Terraria, eventually? I could see this game being as popular as them if enough time and effort is put into it

in the multiplayer add a new bar to top of the screen. this bar is going to show you how many players are around your dimension, you can scroll to see them. a purple bar with darker purple line for your dimension (at least your view in 3d) while you scroll the line goes left and right. and the multicolor dots will represent other players.

I am so excited for this game. :D

6:31 Niceeee. I really like it. 👍🏻 I hope you make it a different button called story, so there is the story mode and the normal survival/creative mode plus multiplayer.

Request: No longer being a 1 dimensional thin character would be nice (or a shift key)

How is support for editing textures and 3d models and such? That's the part I'd be most excited to mess around with. Amateur as I am. That is where my personal interest lies though. Terrain generation, mob animations and models, UI elements, item sprites, block textures and such could all benefit from some visual iteration, which I know is a lot of work that maybe you don't want to spend all your time doing. But I think it has a big impact on user experience. IMO the simpler and more familiar you can make the aesthetic, the better you can highlight the unique aspects of 4d gameplay. So just reducing the amount of super saturated, super dark, or 'alien' colors would help players grasp things more quickly. They aren't bad, but they may add some unnecessary confusion. Even one or two-color blocks with slight texture or color variations would look great I think, as long as you had a good balance of bright/saturated and neutral colors. So I think adding some support if there isn't any for the community to mess with it will cut down on the work and iteration required to find the best look and feel for things, and cut through the visual confusion straight to the meat of the game.

Such an amazing implementation of an additional dimension. On the topic of 4D strafing, I think that an object should have a visual change when it's near an edge off in the 4th dimension. This would help both strafing and rotating. I think it would be a good idea if some of the more valuable ores and items somehow projected out into the surrounding dimensions somehow, making it easier to locate them. Perhaps with a glow?

This game has a lot of potential to develop a medium-sized and *very* dedicated community. Can't wait to see how it develops.

seeing the Minecraft look made me think of the realistic lighting mods in actual Minecraft, like the raytracing one which made me think, how does lighting work in 4D anyway? how will shadows look in a 4 dimensional space and can raytracing be made to work in 4D? like can you see reflections of things outside your current 3D slice

Just imagine PVP and your friend sneak from the 4th dimension.

I really hope this game lives up to its potential

Sb: *attacks me Me: I must go, my other plains need me

Such a cool project!

If people can strafe through the 4th dimension, people will never find their friends ever again. Also the 4d goggles will look crazy in use

I think a good sort of story theme for this game should be about confusion and disarray. Minecraft's story themes were about creativity and order, and I feel that would be an interesting contrast to that. Maybe some underlying themes of cosmic horror would add to it. Maybe even NPCs who have also been stolen from their worlds, even ones other than the one you know. Maybe that's what the hyperspiders used to be...

Those 4D glasses, are they going to make the stuff in the extra directions appear in your line of sight as added images having opposite colors for both directions? Sorry if you already answered this question in the video and I missed it. I'm just so excited.

I love this idea. really neat idea

Do you plan on adding food? I need my 4th-Dimensional hyper-pizza.

no views ? damn that's rare (for me), also, all of the questions i was asking myself about this game and its future were answered here so that's really nice

It’s amazing how much people learn from games alone it’s insane that when I was growing up we were told games make you lazy and stupid. Can’t wait to see the future for this amazing and unique game

question: will we see more enemies other than the hyperspider? will we even get to do 4d farming?! WILL THERE BE BOSSES?!?!

Les gooooooo!!!!

There is so much more world per world, there's so much to explore in a single seed, just at spawn there can be so many things.

bruh when i played the demo a spider jumpscared me and i legit screamed louder than in an actual horror game

Make a game with inverted perspective. The closer the object is, smaller it appears to be, and the further away the object is, bigger it appears to be.

the organs thing shuld only be when NOT on the same plane like rotationg slightly will cut them more and more

Omg I loved it

how do u only have 1k u deserve more

This is amazing

useless fact: the pillars appear at every (x,z,w) congruent to (n,n,n) mod 64

eu espero q esse jogo seja incrível!

do you plain to add/get inspiration from minecraft features like hostile mobs, a dimension like the nether or blocks like slabs?

Redstones conduct energy (3D), but cannot posible in 4D.

This is my new obsession

You should make the blocks you build visible with 4d glases. Like you could see your house with the glasses.

what i think would be nice is an enemy that can only be damaged on a certain perspective, so you'd have to scroll with your scroll wheel to hit it. or an enemy that gets hurt when you use the scroll wheel.

If my guess is right and this gets the full feature of vanilla MC, each map file size would be equal to (minecraft-map-size)³, and seed numbers can have the same astronomical combinations (x)³.

Will you ever add a 5th dimension? 6th? Make it take place in infinite-dimensional Hilbert space?

This game is mind blowing

Since it seems that none has asked this, how would the Farlands (and almost every subsequent set of these) from Minecraft look in the 4D plane? I'm genuinely curious since exploration in the 4th dimension looks really fun and trippy, and if the Farlands cannot be generated normally, then, can you make a little sample of how the noise generator overflows and see what happens?

Hypothetically if the goal is to get out of the 4D realm by beating the boss to get back to the 3D realm

I dunno if you said this anywhere, but did you make the music for the game? Cause It's really good!

You should add a way to rotate your slice of 4d space with keyboard buttons instead of the mouse weel since using that can be uncomfortable and it's kinda hard to be precise with, even if it's just a setting in the controls you can change it would be nice.

Is there going to be vr support at some point? This would be hella cool