How can I make music on this?

Michael Cormack Be rich as fuck or a musical genius

in relation to 4D sound it would have to be ableton as it runs off max for live. If you are generally asking which you should go with then personally I prefer the workflow in Ableton. Some people prefer the workflow in logic. You need to try both. I would say though that ableton can be used more quickly by someone who's not used it before to get some sounds out, so if your competition is soon then I would probably go with Ableton.

*****​ yes, indeed

I went to a show that 4D sound did during the Amsterdam music festival. Contacting them would be the only option. They are looking to take on an intern. 4dsound.net Phil W. Blackwell mentioned you in a comment on Ableton's photo +Michael Cormack I'm qidelephant also :) I see what you meant there. In that case, how can I make music on this as well ? :) Ableton With a matrix of 48 speakers, 4DSOUND introduces new forms of evolving spatialization to musical performance - and at the core of it all is #MaxforLive and #Live9 . Watch the video below and learn more about the system, plus see and hear as Stimming prepares and performs with the system. Learn more about 4DSOUND and download a high-quality file of Stimming’s entire performance: www.ableton.com/en/blog/4dsound-video-performance-stimming/ *6 older comments* from Michael Cormack, qidelephant and others Reply to this email to comment publicly on Google+. Or view Ableton's post » Reply to this email to comment. Phil W. Blackwell mentioned you

Kye Cavender that’s what they did, check their website :)

I was thinking exactly the same.Not just 4d sound but light /visual effects, like the flylo's layer 3 screen not just in front of you but from all sides surrounding everyone. This is still the beginning.

THISRIGHTHEREISMYSWAG While LED screens are still 2D, lighting effects themselves are already 3D by nature. Lighting fixture placement, however, can technically range from 2D to 3D depending on whether there are overhead, side and/or rear fixtures in addition to a front array. Using the this project's use of the term '4D' as adding new layers of complexity to an existing 3D system, a surround lighting universe as you described could be considered "4D". That being said, Ricardo Pereira's idea of "4D" graphic visuals is coincidentally happening for the first time ever in about a month at a new music festival called 3DM, using massive wrap-around LED screens displaying in 3D. www.youredm.com/2014/08/07/3dm-to-be-worlds-first-3d-dance-music-festival/ facebook.com/video.php?v=455975401209035 facebook.com/video.php?v=453240754815833

wow sick, thanks

will get there. there are loads to be coming with this new technology. Just imagine how many VST's / Patches would come out with this. One of the MAX programmers in Amsterdam, a friend of mine, he also plays with audio reactive visuals in MaxMsp on the 4d sound system.

Wecreatestories _com What are audioreactive visuals!? :O

me too

Id also like to know this

yeah me too it's a brilliant peace and I'm just dying to hear the rest

it is not mozart or bach i think

Darude - Sandstorm

Ich fühle mit euch. Zappe auch zum 3 mal zum Ende.

And is available the plugin for do 4d sound?

he says 9 subs

its not just about the amount of speakers, but the operator(DJ/Producer) can place 5 sounds at 5 speakers and simultaneously blends them together or rearrange what speaker they will be playing out of. Now expand that to 48 speakers. The next thing is to make this idea tiny and put it into headphones.

Hmm, I think on headphones you won't ever get that feel of surroundness. I am thinking the next big step with this idea would be to have this system on a much larger scale and have it applied all around a big music festival. There would be sounds and music everywhere, coming from all directions, instead of a wall of sound that comes from the DJ. I think it's their idea here, I just hope we can see this in very big scale if it can be done without big cost.

Hugo Santos If it takes off, they will do it at a very large scale, including stadiums/festivals. DJs are the mega rockstars now. Regarding the headphones, whatever can be made at large scale, can be done at the micro scale. Remember cell phones in the 80s. now look at the one in your pocket.

Its absolutely not the same in my opinion… The big difference is that a 5.1 surround system works properly only if the listener is positioned in the middle of the system, it means the spatial perception of the sound is listener-dependent. In a 4D Sound this is irrelevant because the 48 speakers are working together using a different mathematical concept to locate sounds in space, it means they are not "channels". Don't confuse "channels" with "speakers"…

Frank Holguin only trouble is it will be hell to do on a large scale, the reason festivals are still in stereo is so the entire crowd can hear the signal at the same time, speakers further back from the front are delayed so they are in phase with the front speakers, to get the full effect of this would be extremely difficult to do, but not completely impossible providing that the stage was in the centre of the crowd and the surround system circling the stage being delayed more as it goes further back. This would require a huge team of sound engineers and the pro equipment for large scale gigs just isn't advanced enough to handle a 48 speaker system yet. It would be more feasible in small scale with some sort of helmet thingy. But binaural recordings are becoming more advanced with in ear microphones anyway. We only have two ears and sound can be manipulated to imitate natural space. Love this idea but it just seems a bit too much effort.

I would pay good money to see Stimmer on a 4d soundsystem in London, and I'm sure I'm not alone.

Im aure it will take off. I meam based on just what i saw, it seems the whole experience is different/better than a regular venue type show. People will pay to have the best experiences at shows, i think the 4d system can meet those needs and maybe even raise the standard.

Leo Leon Yeah definitely, I think the demand would be there for this kind of experience. Though I don't think it's a hardware that will ever have universal application as it's quite niche, expensive and maybe not what you want for every set & kind of music. I guess another limitation would be finding an abundance of DJs & producers who are as technically gifted and determined as Stimmer, who could really get the most out of a 4D rig. But I can easily imagine one of these setup in all the big cities in a few years time.

Hi, it's the 4DSOUND Development Studio in Amsterdam. Hope this helps! Cheers.

miwalkerhp7 Are you talking about 4D imaging technology that translates onto 2 channel speakers systems?

Yes, exactly. That would be incredible.

miwalkerhp7 Yes that would be incredible. I guess Bose has done well at making 2 channel systems which sound like 5 channel surround. Nothing's impossible, but seriously how? This is great because the sound literally is coming from all directions. How would you make a 2 channel system sound like noise is coming from directly under you? idk, it's not my expertise.

Well I know of and have used various audio codecs that take a stereo file and separate it into surround sound outputs, but never anything with the same fidelity as real surround sound. I think the guys over at ISONO Sound are working on something interesting like this.