I know it has been a year since you asked this question, so I hope that you will see this reply. SOME muscular tension is necessary. You need enough tension in the support arm to keep it in place. As you discovered on your own, if you relax completely the elbow will move and the position will fall apart. We want to eliminate as much tension as possible, but we can't completely relax. You need to be able to hold a piece of cloth under your arm without it falling to the ground. After some time, this amount of tension will become second nature and static. You won't have to consciously flex to hold that much tension, it will become natural and repeatable.

Obviously for both

for both. some males will find it difficult to get the elbow all the way to the ribs if they have wide shoulders or muscular upper body. In that case, the triceps will rest against the ribs in a more vertical stance. Girls and very thin boys can use the extended hip. Larger males will not get much benefit from that, and the alternative is a good arm to rib placement. The key to either is to let the shoulders drop. (relax the trapezius muscles)

@@jwilsonhandmadeknives2760 Thank you sir

@@munnaroyvideos3666 You are very welcome. If you are interested, there is an excellent series of videos on just this subject, given by a world class High Power shooter where he demonstrates at 200m. "Dan Lowe off hand position"

@@munnaroyvideos3666 "Offhand with Dane Lowe" there are 3 parts kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pZhoodSEyrnKhI0.html

there are pictures from the finnish-soviet war depicting finnish snipers using this position firing 7.62x54R

@@ihaveastoma3869 and they lost.

This is a .177 air rifle

Ehhh, 5.56 is pretty much the same. .308 and .30-06... you could maybe run into problems, but you have so much skeletal support, and a very forward center of gravity. Because the CG is so forward, it actually takes quite a lot of recoil to push you over. Try it yourself, you have to get hit so hard that your back leg is a lever, and your hips tip past your back leg. Most of the recoil is dissipated by the hips and spine bending too. Iirc, I've shot my M1 Garand in this position without issue.

@@ihaveastoma3869 That's why they rarely hit their targets.

This position is fine for precision based .22 rifle shooting from the standing position, due to the stabiliy provided by bone support. www.issf-sports.org/iteam_data/public/issf/images/userimages/academy/body1.png However for any other purpose it would be inappropriate, such as firing at a moving target or where speed is priority.

Agreed, that's going to HURT and she's going to end up on her ass the first time she shoots anything larger than a .22lr. That buttpad isn't even halfway on her shoulder and there's no room for recoil management.

@@AM-hf9kk there is a photo from the Finnish-Soviet war of a finnish sniper firing a 7.62x54R mosin sniper from this very same shooting stance. it is not designed for recoil management, there are other shooting stances for that. it is not designed for follow up shots, there are other positions suited for that. not position is an end all be all, positions are all tools in the arsenal of a shooter and just like tools, use the right one for the job

@@ihaveastoma3869 Are you referring to The White Death, the deadliest sniper in history? Well, if it’s good enough for him, who used NO OPTIC, and got more than 400 confirmed kills, it’s good enough for me.😊

Samthing watch some Olympic shooting videos. This is a target shooting stance, for air guns or 22lr guns they use in those competitions

I hope you are not that stupid after 7 years

TP Mokato it’s not. its the army style which helps you hold it steadier

@CrustyFlamingo This is a target shooting stance particularly for airgun (and it is indeed the proper stance), it's not tactical or 3 gun shooting where you'd be using the isosceles or other stances, moving, or managing recoil etc. This is to be as steady as possible while unsupported.

​@CrustyFlamingo You're really an army? Then check this video. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ZpOldpucsKqWkp8.html At 4:26, the recruits used the similar stance. They even teach that "parody stance" in the Marine Corp. Didn't they teach you as well?

She's not wrong. You are just stupid af. You should watch every air rifles standing position on yt

Bruh my rotc teaches us how to shoot like this while standing.