4x Quieter generator in 10 seconds

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sixtyfiveford

sixtyfiveford

9 жыл бұрын

Drop the decibels of a generator by 10db in 10 seconds without welding, building or virtually any out of pocket cost. I take a screaming loud generator and drop it an amazing amount, from 80db(a) to 70db(a) at 23 feet(industry standard testing) in seconds. This is only a proof of concept using a scientific approach.
I use a real decibel meter(not a phone) to show before and after real world results. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E...
Watch me show the difference with and without a auto muffler: • Quiet a generator with...
Absorption Muffler Video By BCTRUCK: • How to make your gener...
I've run temp checks and everything stays within a few degrees. The trick is to leave plenty of area for proper air flow. Any engine will only pull in so many cfm of air while cooling and it doesn't require 360 degree air flow. A standard air cooled engine pulls all of it's cooling air through a few square inches behind the pull start. The spacing left at each corner is probably 100x the required area for proper cfm in and out. Air cooled engines are run successfully in fully and partially enclosed areas all the time; ie Honda's full line of inverter generators are fully enclosed with only a small opening at the front and rear for air flow, Along with pretty much every RV generator, riding lawn mowers only leave partial openings for airflow to reduce noise and the list goes on.

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@k.r.v.4219
@k.r.v.4219 7 жыл бұрын
Hello! Great video! It's almost what I've done. But I take a 1" thick piece of fire proof sound foam that I glued to the particle board, with a thick moving blanket folded up right on top of it all, just like you did at angles. That works unbelievable well! I do not have a dbl meter , but it is much much quieter. Plus everything just lays down flat to take up almost no space. In windy areas I use a cargo net over the whole thing, with spikes set into the ground to hold everything in place. But at home I just made a nice weather proof box, with the same fireproof sound foam.
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome. I like the fireproof foam. That should drop the sound dramatically.
@CrazyFunnyCats
@CrazyFunnyCats 7 жыл бұрын
Kevin Voyer they have decibel meter apps 👍
@JM-wh3bh
@JM-wh3bh 6 жыл бұрын
K. R. V. I
@jeepj27
@jeepj27 6 жыл бұрын
Hey KRV! Can you possibly post photos of your matierals or a shopping list of them and how you place them to the generator... I just got my generator and your setup sounds greaT!! Thank you!!!
@danielnava9304
@danielnava9304 6 жыл бұрын
K. R. V. k
@jsb5188
@jsb5188 5 жыл бұрын
I did this to my wife, and man ! Does this work !!!
@djtexicano
@djtexicano 3 жыл бұрын
Which end did you install it on?
@robmclaughlin420
@robmclaughlin420 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@TheKellisunshyne
@TheKellisunshyne 3 жыл бұрын
Ha! I see what you did there.
@jeffmaas2792
@jeffmaas2792 3 жыл бұрын
Good one man!
@youhaveinfinitevalue5755
@youhaveinfinitevalue5755 3 жыл бұрын
I got hearing aids and turned them off to achieve the same thing. And I don’t need hearing aids.
@julieweaver7208
@julieweaver7208 4 жыл бұрын
I have been researching inexpensive ways to quiet a generator and this video is by far the best I've come across. Thank you so so much.
@Robert-dx4tw
@Robert-dx4tw 3 жыл бұрын
Probably too late for it but you should look into hush houses. We use them for jet engine testing indoors
@fuzzyelm1
@fuzzyelm1 2 жыл бұрын
But remember if you restrict air flow your engine will not last long and if you add something like that big muffler it will add more back pressure and that will shorten engine and generator life ! I’m guessing that’s why his Subaru engine didn’t last because those things are bullet proof
@44mickd
@44mickd 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously? So just pile sh!t around it is your solution to a quieter generator. Genius!
@stevenn8449
@stevenn8449 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha those are the exact words I said when I saw this video! "So... just pile some shit on it?"
@SirSloop1919
@SirSloop1919 3 жыл бұрын
lol hey it works
@petersack5074
@petersack5074 3 жыл бұрын
sure, most of us have 'junk' which, after a while is not finding uses. Clean out my sheds, garage, would have enough for neighbors, too. just stack it around at an angle.....
@justingrey6008
@justingrey6008 2 жыл бұрын
When I was in the army a "tactical quiet generator" was a Honda generator placed in a pit in the ground. It worked
@kcender3771
@kcender3771 5 жыл бұрын
65Ford, I learned a lot about acoustics from watching and reading some of the comments that were thoughtful. Thanks for the video. One way or another it will help me.
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I'm glad you liked the video.
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 8 жыл бұрын
If you only have the attention span of a 2 year old you can skip to 5:19 in the video. Before this I discuss the pros and cons of adding mufflers, both absorption and deflection styles and why mufflers won't get you where you want to be. This video is just showing proof of concept from a scientific approach. The engine cools itself with a fan though a bunch of small holes the combined size of maybe a softball. The generator cools itself the same way with a similarly sized hole. So even left fully exposed the engine and gen head still only pull in a fixed amount of air. There are large enough gaps left at each corner to accommodate 50-100 times the required air for the engine/gen head to properly cool themselves. There is going to be very minor radiant heat that would dissipate upwards that isn't going to leave as easily but it hasn't been a concern. After numerous running tests the engine and generator head are plus and minus 2-3F at numerous locations between shrouded vs not shrouded. Some non pertinent items, like the metal frame are warm to the touch where normally they would feel cool if left out in the open. Air cooled engines are commonly run in enclosed spaces without issue. Of course common sense needs to be used and proper gaps at each corner need to be left to allow air flow.
@mikeflippin5568
@mikeflippin5568 8 жыл бұрын
lmao
@davids2721
@davids2721 7 жыл бұрын
Could've shorten the video to 30 sec
@6969smurfy
@6969smurfy 7 жыл бұрын
thank you for that!
@mikeflippin5568
@mikeflippin5568 7 жыл бұрын
David Sasson or you can do your OWN video and make it as long or short as you wish. =]
@vincezyx1
@vincezyx1 7 жыл бұрын
If the exhaust get restricted it will cause back flow destroying engine
@mrthorthethundergod5369
@mrthorthethundergod5369 7 жыл бұрын
Nice video showing that most generator noise is not always just the exhaust. The doghouse method of noise reduction has been used by commercial home generator companies for decades with great success. Your boards deflect most of the noise into the ground where much of it is absorbed. Simple, cheap and effective. We did a lot of exhaust modifications to small engines in an attempt to quiet them and not reduce power. We came to the conclusion that the quieter the muffler, the lower the power output from the engine. Enclosures are the best way to go. Nice video.
@lowrangeinnovascotia2930
@lowrangeinnovascotia2930 Жыл бұрын
If you reduce power, you have not built a good enough flowing muffler. What works better (on race cars for example) is a sound cancellation box instead of a muffler. KZfaq David vizard, he has videos on building zero loss exhaust systems. Yes, they work.
@h8troodoh
@h8troodoh Жыл бұрын
@@lowrangeinnovascotia2930 are you referring to megaphone( or tuned) pipes like on racing two stroke engines? Use of soundwaves for back pressure??
@lowrangeinnovascotia2930
@lowrangeinnovascotia2930 Жыл бұрын
@@h8troodoh Not really but that is also a great example of what an engine needs (two stroke/expansion chamber) An engine should have ZERO backpressure. ZERO! If you have backpressure, you are not getting 100% performance. (why manufacturers now use headers when before headers were only for "race or performance" applications). They improved efficiency, period. (this resulted in more power/better mileage/etc) A cancellation box takes the exh pulses and lets them go one way and sets up the resonance sent back to the exh valve to hit at the perfect time to cause scavenging. Not required on every engine in mundane duties, but the principals are the same regardless.
@h8troodoh
@h8troodoh Жыл бұрын
@lowrangeinnovascotia2930 I'd like to disagree on the zero back pressure, some engines require it,2 stroke piston port engines, for example, as the fuel air charge would be following the exhaust gates out the exhaust port so.. although they have designed deflectors on top of the pistons,the need for back pressure is still there. 40 year professional mechanic..🙂
@BroncoSolid
@BroncoSolid 2 жыл бұрын
In 2021, that’s a $200 enclosure. Hopefully wood prices come down at some point soon! (Ok, maybe I’m exaggerating, but close)
@pinkertonj1
@pinkertonj1 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think you're very far off the mark
@yeahitskimmel
@yeahitskimmel 2 жыл бұрын
I was so bummed when I saw the payoff was using sheets of wood, guess we're all just 6yrs too late
@ZsOtherBrother
@ZsOtherBrother 2 жыл бұрын
People throw away things when they buy new ones, and free sheets of wood from a discarded cabinet are (for this purpose) every bit as good as new boards.
@feliciajohn1169
@feliciajohn1169 2 ай бұрын
In 2024 thats a 1200$ enclosure 😂
@seandacey8346
@seandacey8346 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. As a person who has had their hearing decimated by power tools , sirens and air horns , (retired firefighter) , I can definitely appreciate the value of your video. Losing your hearing affects your mood and sleep as well as ability to communicate with people. Great video.
@tonisam962
@tonisam962 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget to watch this video about generator safety kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f5eah5Zys6uypn0.html
@kbbacon
@kbbacon 9 жыл бұрын
In the Army, we put our generators in a hole in the ground or a berm of sand bags....Reduced the noise and makes the generator much harder to locate
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 9 жыл бұрын
kbbacon Makes perfect sense.
@bendover9862
@bendover9862 8 жыл бұрын
+kbbacon We did same in Russian army.
@ltyr-mr2if
@ltyr-mr2if 8 жыл бұрын
+kbbacon It would drown where I live. ;) However, I could make a little berm to conceal it I guess.
@kbbacon
@kbbacon 8 жыл бұрын
ltyr2001 1 We burmed in Louisiana.
@zacandmillie
@zacandmillie 7 жыл бұрын
We did the same thing. One night a young soldier on radio picquet heard it stop but did nothing about it. At reveille we found the we had harboured up in a dry river bed and the watertable had risen and drowned the genny. He got in trouble and the mechanics were really pissed off because they had to completely rebuild it as water had seeped inside the motor.
@bunberrier
@bunberrier 6 жыл бұрын
Nice! Was planning to build an enclosure for mine with a powered fan, but I had not considered using sheetrock as a liner. Thanks for the idea!
@denniskwasnycia1950
@denniskwasnycia1950 5 жыл бұрын
Love the Ford 4x4 in the background! Great video as well.
@TheLayinLo
@TheLayinLo 3 жыл бұрын
How ironic is it that right as I get to your comment while scrolling, the 4x4 Ford makes its appearance?!?
@Doesntmatteratall
@Doesntmatteratall Жыл бұрын
Almost a decade old and still useful information. Thank you
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford Жыл бұрын
You bet!
@MRrwmac
@MRrwmac 7 жыл бұрын
I lined my slightly angled box (deflection) interior with carpet pad (absorbstion) and reduced 22 decibels! Thanks so much for the simple but great demo and information!
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 7 жыл бұрын
That's impressive!
@sciguy59
@sciguy59 6 жыл бұрын
MRrwmac @
@tractor629
@tractor629 5 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of doing something similar, but with “sound lining”, it’s an absorbent material about an inch thick. We use at work inside HVAC ducting..
@xyladivine
@xyladivine Жыл бұрын
Could you put the carpet pad on the ground under the generator? Will that absorb even more sound? My generator will be sitting on concrete. Thank you!
@aladrasullivan9018
@aladrasullivan9018 Жыл бұрын
@@xyladivine yes
@wyattoneable
@wyattoneable 9 жыл бұрын
Awesome demo. While in the Army, we had to dig a hole large enough to put the generators in while in use to make them more quiet. A lot of work, but it worked.
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 9 жыл бұрын
***** It makes sense.
@snap403
@snap403 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video, I had been thinking about swapping out mufflers but this makes mor sense.
@TheBT123456
@TheBT123456 2 жыл бұрын
I use acoustic ceiling boards, usually, I get them free when they are getting replaced. Just paint the outside white. The inside facing the genset absorbs the noise.
@louf7178
@louf7178 7 жыл бұрын
Congratulations 65 ! You're hitting these fundamentals and concepts accurately.
@bctruck
@bctruck 9 жыл бұрын
Nice demo!!! My cherry bomb made a slight difference and in my original video,I ran it at the end and used an iPhone Db meter app that was not even close to being accurate. I eliminated that part of the video and I still get flack for that,even though I've used the generator in many other videos. I've been keeping my eye on Craigslist for one of those small rubber sheds that I plan on retrofitting a fan and some absorption batting into. Great vid!
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 9 жыл бұрын
BCtruck, rebuild, repair,repurpose Thanks Brad. Yeah, the arm chair engineers are watching every move we make..... I get a fair amount of flack for using a performance muffler in my old video. I tell people to throw the hood up on their car and have their wife peg it at 3600rpm and tell me how quiet their car is now.
@oldtimerlee8820
@oldtimerlee8820 2 жыл бұрын
And now you have the shed. :-) Looking forward to seeing your adaptations for shed & your new generator.
@bctruck
@bctruck 2 жыл бұрын
@@oldtimerlee8820 hello from 6 years ago!! Only took me 6 years to get the shed.
@patrickking4200
@patrickking4200 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. Got major inspiration now for my overly noisy “silent” Hyundai 6KW generator which I use on film sets. Thank you 🙏🏻
@cagegriffin9734
@cagegriffin9734 2 күн бұрын
Great video, I agree with the principle. I built an enclosure for my Champion 4.5 using ½" plywood. I lined the interior with Thermozite thermal acoustic barrier $25 (1)roll. I used a small soffit vent for ventilation. The results were unbelievable. My gen sits on the outside corner of my house and it went from ridiculous to a mild hum. Don't spend your $$ on so-called silencers, just enclose the unit. Total cost about $50 but it's a permanent enclosure!
@masonlemons6389
@masonlemons6389 4 жыл бұрын
That was awesome man, you wouldn't think someone would need to make a video like that but I tend to make things way too complicated so thank you
@POHLHAMMER
@POHLHAMMER 8 жыл бұрын
i do this every time i camp with a generator , been using this trick for years , works great !
@LujinCustom
@LujinCustom 2 жыл бұрын
Super useful stuff to know! Glass packs are often used as resonators on OEM car exhaust
@airecraft1
@airecraft1 9 жыл бұрын
My generator is quiet but that's mostly because I struggle to get it running half the time
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 9 жыл бұрын
airkraft1 Haha.. Yeah, they don't make much noise then.
@airecraft1
@airecraft1 9 жыл бұрын
sixtyfiveford Nope
@JohnnyBallou
@JohnnyBallou 5 жыл бұрын
Before shut down, turn off fuel line to drain carb. Will start easier.
@UpnorthHere
@UpnorthHere 5 жыл бұрын
It's real quiet if you just keep pulling the starter cord to "run" the generator with the ignition off... good shoulder workout too.
@ronaldbrown5991
@ronaldbrown5991 5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@Tbvck
@Tbvck 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I like your idea of deflecting the sound with the slanted osb, reminds me of the angles on the F-117 stealth fighter. Back in the 1970's in US Army, we would dig a hole deep enough for our genset and it would also deaden the sound.Sometimes you don't need a muffler. Yours is a great idea.
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 7 жыл бұрын
The Army is a great resource for field tricks like this.
@jamessheehan1045
@jamessheehan1045 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, Make work details were always a favorite.......
@logan_e
@logan_e 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamessheehan1045 😂👍
@MeticulousTechTV
@MeticulousTechTV 4 жыл бұрын
All i kept thinking is "I wouldn't be able to believe if my neighbor was doing this in their *front yard* " No legit, great video. I just bought the Harbor Freight 4375W, learning any tips and tricks i can and I will absolutely be using this trick. Thanks, and subscribed!
@tedjohnson64
@tedjohnson64 8 ай бұрын
This was a really well done demo! Liked watching the decibels change on the meter as each wall went up.
@timmorris3056
@timmorris3056 4 жыл бұрын
People typically lose power in the winter months, if they have a hot tub it's normally drained, plywood to protect the floor, then throw the genny in there and the cover on with half folded open. Much quieter! And bonus..... you can wire- in a 2 way switch to your hot tub so the genny feeds power to the house through the 30 amp hot tub breaker once you've flipped the main off. Works slick!
@davidmichael7756
@davidmichael7756 3 жыл бұрын
WHY ON EARTH would you EMPTY your HOT TUB in the winter? it's LITERALLY the BEST TIME to use one!
@timmorris3056
@timmorris3056 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidmichael7756 The Polar Bear Club👍
@pacoinparadise7754
@pacoinparadise7754 2 жыл бұрын
Be sure to monitor temps. Restricting the airflows can soon lead to overheating.
@JosephQPublic
@JosephQPublic 2 жыл бұрын
Did you watch the video? He mentions airflow…
@thegrantdanielsband
@thegrantdanielsband Жыл бұрын
@@JosephQPublic LOL he restricted air flow that means the generator is running hotter than normal get it???
@michaelpetrarca9775
@michaelpetrarca9775 4 жыл бұрын
I do a similar thing, temporarily, for my General. But also have built another version which provides about 3-ft spacing for fire protection and ability to redirect the sound into a particular direction into the dense forest. But this still leads to poor airflow for cooling. Even at -8F, the sound box will heat up to the 70’s, imagine when it is +80F. We live off grid and do what we can to use the gens the least and the quietest. We will be enlargening the sound box and adding studio egg crate foam, hopefully before the winter.
@Client007
@Client007 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice video! Love it! Have just learnt what I needed to know!
@newstart49
@newstart49 4 жыл бұрын
Two observations; 1. If you do this in the summer, you run the risk of running a very hot engine and generator and causing a failure of each, or at least shortening the life of the unit. 2. You are allowing exhaust gasses to enter the intake- this will reduce the horsepower and also cause overloading and heating of the engine. Allow room for it to breathe! Build a large insulated box with diverted vents and even an exhaust fan.
@adrianb6073
@adrianb6073 2 жыл бұрын
Or just stick a $5 box fan under the plywood to assist with air flow if your worried about circulation.
@logan_e
@logan_e 2 жыл бұрын
All true, just remember powering the fan will reduce a little of the already limited available electrical power.
@brotang2953
@brotang2953 Жыл бұрын
Your not wrong, I tried something similar and when I shut it down I could hear a hissing noise, it was the fuel cap vent working to max, popped it off and removed the pre filter and the bottom of the tank was bubbling, literally boiling my fuel, God knows how much had just evaporated into the air🤦. Building a gasifier now to run it from but will keep the fuel side as well for a duel fuel setup and the tank I'm going to remove and mount away from the heat altogether.
@christophercochran5883
@christophercochran5883 8 жыл бұрын
In the Artillery we used a lot of generators. We buried them in the ground with sufficient room around the sides for them to breath. We then stacked sandbags around the side of the hole up past the top of the generator. we left breather holes in the sandbag formation. on the top of the sandbags we put plywood and covered the plywood with sandbags. you couldn't hear the generator until you were right up on it.
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 8 жыл бұрын
+george washington I would imagine the sand/dirt would absorb sound very well.
@faffaflunkie
@faffaflunkie 8 жыл бұрын
Naw- you all were just deaf.
@zacandmillie
@zacandmillie 7 жыл бұрын
Same in the Royal Australian Artillery (of which I was a member for 20 years). In a pinch we use to put a flattened rations carton over the hole if we knew we wouldn't be in that gun position for very long.
@JamesWright1955
@JamesWright1955 6 жыл бұрын
thats what we did.
@DD-su5so
@DD-su5so 5 жыл бұрын
Combat engineer 🇨🇦 .Same idea.2 rows of sanbags 🐌 shell design.
@TheDriver21122001
@TheDriver21122001 9 күн бұрын
I kept the plywood it came with and sat it on top and went on Amazon and bought a patio furniture cover that fit, great for storing in garage. Makes a nice table too !
@sicplano
@sicplano 3 жыл бұрын
Fabulous, I’m stoked and will try this. Thank you for a very direct presentation.
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.
@Eatallthebirds
@Eatallthebirds 9 жыл бұрын
Informative as ever and that hour meter........... Well, dare I say GENIUS!
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 9 жыл бұрын
***** Your scooter needs an hour meter like this.
@Milesco
@Milesco 6 жыл бұрын
Can't see it because of the #$%&! ads that pop up on the screen near the end. >:-(
@RICKYROBERTSON
@RICKYROBERTSON 8 жыл бұрын
Fiberglass Ceiling tiles with the PLASTIC side removed should work like a GOLD MEDAL CHAMPION!
@GuysPlayingWithTools
@GuysPlayingWithTools 2 жыл бұрын
Good suggestions! The hour meter at the end made it even better. I am gonna put one on my lawn tractor.
@richdespiseus6243
@richdespiseus6243 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the broad idea, particularly the angled surfaces. Execution, as usual, is a bit of a beast - especially if it is to be durable.
@cubbeezx
@cubbeezx 9 жыл бұрын
Cool demonstration, that really made it a lot quieter! I like your hour meter at the end! lol
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 9 жыл бұрын
***** Thanks Man..
@louf7178
@louf7178 7 жыл бұрын
cubbeezx Yes. It changes the perception of a "clock" to a time meter; of which it really is. I similarly put an analog clock on my furnace to monitor its runtime (powered a receptacle off of the vent blower power (only minimal wattage allowed)). An earth day, earth's single rotation, seems to lose reference quickly if one would be in the space station which circles the earth 5 times (?) a day.
@immeohmyoh
@immeohmyoh 7 жыл бұрын
you can't see the hour meter because 4adds in in each corner pop-up right at that time and obscure the whole area
@kevinnoble5988
@kevinnoble5988 6 жыл бұрын
Stop the vid @ 10:13 and you can see it is a clock with the Pink Panther on a scooter with neon light around the edges.
@buddyclem7328
@buddyclem7328 6 жыл бұрын
I looked, but the clock was blurry and not yet plugged in, so I still didn't see much of anything. I can't figure out why he would cover up that part of the video.
@algallegos2016
@algallegos2016 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds great for the noise level, but what would a containment box like one would make with these materials affect the cooling ability of the generator not to over heat? Aren't portable generators made to have complete airflow?
@stewartcaldwell5299
@stewartcaldwell5299 2 жыл бұрын
Best generator shutter upper I've seen ! I've done all your tricks and it does work. I'm not done with sine wave cancellation, though. I think that's the key. Somehow. I also add a small cooling fan, plugged into the generator.
@dontblameme6328
@dontblameme6328 5 жыл бұрын
Do you have an online store where I can buy one of those fancy hour meters?
@timmorris3056
@timmorris3056 4 жыл бұрын
Grainger.com
@tkskagen
@tkskagen 5 жыл бұрын
What "Style" of Doghouse Construction would you recommend? Concrete pad with Rubber Floor Mats, or Styrofoam Insulation? Thanks for sharing this video! Take care, 🤓-Thomas
@chasedelong8343
@chasedelong8343 3 жыл бұрын
That osb is deflecting and absorbing because of the particle press. Never thought of that. Thanks for being so thorough and creative.
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@breeze787
@breeze787 5 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for putting this up. Hey man, your yard looks fantastic!
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I'm glad you liked it.
@mikeb5745
@mikeb5745 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for such a simple solution. I've been fretting over which generator to get based on sound and this will open up so many options that I wasn't considering. Also thanks to the thoughtful comments and suggestions.
@logan_e
@logan_e 2 жыл бұрын
It's probably too late for this advice now but over 48 years as a mechanical engineer I've noticed that 'Honda engine' powered systems are consistently the quietest. On a side note, with proper maintenance they're also one of the most reliable and long lasting. Not a personal pitch for Honda just something that caught my attention!
@ZsOtherBrother
@ZsOtherBrother 2 жыл бұрын
I like the way you've applied known principles to create a simple and practical solution, I'm definitely going to try this! (including the suggestion to incorporate sound absorbing materials). Great video, mate. Thanks.
@nstahlable
@nstahlable 3 жыл бұрын
We use a similar method in factories with barriers around equipment. Helps with OSHA and quality of workplace
@paule4696
@paule4696 Жыл бұрын
The sound deadener you were referring to is asphalt. Asphalt "peel-and-stick" waterproofing would work pretty well and is available at a lot of supply houses. It's the same rubberized asphalt with an HDPE film instead of foil which would be more difficult to source and more expensive. Great tip! I'll be trying that at my off-grid deer camp.
@paulromsky9527
@paulromsky9527 Жыл бұрын
@Paul E, what about "Wet or Dry" you get at home depot, would that work? It is a sticky black rubberized tar like substance you brush on thick to stop roof leaks, or water proof 4x4 posts in the ground. I also use it on white PVC vent pipes that stick out of roofs so they don't look as noticeable on black roofs - plus the thick rubber does not wear away as quickly as black paint.
@paule4696
@paule4696 Жыл бұрын
@@paulromsky9527 I don't know. I think the principle of the rubberized asphalt is to attenuate the vibration from sound waves. I'm by no means an expert in acoustics but is seems to me to work that way. I would assume that a rubberized coating would work similarly. I do know that the auto manufacturers use a sheet rubberized asphalt composite for sound deadening. It's gets applied to places like the firewall which is stamped sheet metal. The asphalt reduces sound transmission.
@spammerscammer
@spammerscammer Жыл бұрын
​@@paulromsky9527youbare talking about mastic. And that would be a messy job. Upload a video. Lol
@chevyphil3969
@chevyphil3969 7 жыл бұрын
i'm sad that i couldn't see the hr meter due to your links to other videos but ill still watch
@rontownsend8235
@rontownsend8235 8 жыл бұрын
By using a 3/4 nipple that fits into the exhuast port of the engine and stepping it up to 2"x12" nipple and then back down to 1/2" nipple you will have a very quiet motor depending on how long the 1/2" is.
@Bear-cm1vl
@Bear-cm1vl 7 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a tuned pipe silencer and correctly designed, they are very effective, but most of the noise from a four stroke air cooled engine is mechanical and is transmitted through the engine case to the surrounding air. This is why most fixed placement gensets use fluid cooled engines.
@ROTAXD
@ROTAXD 7 жыл бұрын
Bear U liquid cooled motors are not only quieter...but usually it's more fuel efficient too as a liquid cooled engine is easier to extract horsepower out of then a fan or free air motor without heat saturation issues.
@bryanpender1753
@bryanpender1753 3 жыл бұрын
I can imagine most of the rude comments come from people that don't have what it takes to make videos to help people or they just hate people. But,, thank you for taking the time to PROVE it works and this is definatly an option. Good work.
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.
@billrympalski1712
@billrympalski1712 4 жыл бұрын
Just purchased a generator. You presented a simple solution to reducing noise. Thanks.
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@tacobell5150
@tacobell5150 4 жыл бұрын
Love your 70's Ford truck
@ozzstars_cars
@ozzstars_cars 9 жыл бұрын
Nice tip, thanks man. A cool experiment would be to line the plywood sheets with the thin sound/heat insulation stuff like Dynomat, used on car interiors. Of course that would increase the budget but might make it even more quiet.
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 9 жыл бұрын
Ozzstar I tested out some rubber matting(conveyor belt) with good results. I almost bought a couple rolls of the foil/tar at the Home Depot(dynomat rip-off) but this worked so well in the testing I figured it would only be good for another 1-2db.
@BelleDuNord
@BelleDuNord 5 жыл бұрын
Good, I'll definitely try it for my champion generator. Thanks
@ryanjames1975
@ryanjames1975 3 жыл бұрын
Did the operating temp stay the same ? I would assume blocking airflow is going to heat things up some.
@Englishman2031
@Englishman2031 8 жыл бұрын
It appears to be deflecting the sound into the ground, I would like to see how this works on solid ground or a wooden floor.
@nogoogle9063
@nogoogle9063 3 жыл бұрын
yep, on concrete or macadam , like a garage or driveway....
@yellowdogparty
@yellowdogparty 3 жыл бұрын
I hope you’re not planning to use one on an interior wood floor for hopefully obvious reasons.
@devon7008
@devon7008 7 жыл бұрын
I used a Harley Davidson muffler on mine, and next morning there were a dozen Hell's Angels camped around my generator ... :) Seriously though, thanks for the demonstration ...
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 7 жыл бұрын
Haha. Thanks for watching.
@WineScrounger
@WineScrounger 6 жыл бұрын
Lol. Sweet
@zeus-mt7wx
@zeus-mt7wx 5 жыл бұрын
fossicker2000 😂😂😂😂
@The_Lincoln_Penny
@The_Lincoln_Penny 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry but real Harley Davidsons dont have mufflers 🤠
@hericbagley8286
@hericbagley8286 4 жыл бұрын
How long did it run before it broke. down
@darkbulb367
@darkbulb367 2 жыл бұрын
Smart use of acoustics, damn cost effective too! Wrap and staple some old carpet to those boards & knock off even more notable dB's.
@billkiele5819
@billkiele5819 5 жыл бұрын
Nice demo, 65Ford ! I hadn't thought about tenting my mower engine in some stable way to minimize noise for the neighbors. I'll see if I can come up with something useful at low cost, too.
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 5 жыл бұрын
That would be a neat setup with a mower.
@gearjammer4779
@gearjammer4779 5 жыл бұрын
... and it looks so beautiful. Your neighbors must love it! 😖
@atlmacman
@atlmacman 8 жыл бұрын
Man, I love this video! Your decision to show the reduction in actual decibels as you put up those boards, with camera on the sound meter, is pure genius. A fellow just can't forget that after seeing it. If it wouldn't be too much of a pay cut, you might consider becoming a teacher. Awesome stuff! Thank you so much for sharing!
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 8 жыл бұрын
+Jaddie Dodd Thank you very much.
@questioneverything1123
@questioneverything1123 3 жыл бұрын
Great video and illustration, thank you! ...sound baffles... makes sense.
@danbell3827
@danbell3827 Жыл бұрын
Working in construction, we do the plywood trick all the time with our little generators when we're using them. Some of our larger diesel ones are already boxed in, so are pretty quiet, but we have a few ancient towable open-frame ones that are extremely loud. We try to stick them behind the sea-can or some other obstacle whenever possible, same idea, but bigger
@danbell3827
@danbell3827 Жыл бұрын
Also, you just reminded me of something mentioning the square generator sheds. We've done a couple of school renovations, including music rooms. One of them had all of the walls on odd angles, nothing was quite square or plumb, and no large flat areas. Apparently it helps cut down on the echos considerably. It would look odd, but I wonder if that could be applied to making a generator shed?
@DeadShred9
@DeadShred9 8 жыл бұрын
After being a guitarist and playing in car garages, sheds ect. some carpet padding (used) and easy to find as well as egg crates glued or nailed onto the wood pieces facing the Gen. could help knock the noise level down another 8 to 10 decibels easily for free and easy to set up take down without carrying a clunky dog house box around lol Great video Sixtyfiveford !!
@wb7ptr
@wb7ptr 8 жыл бұрын
+Aaron Manderscheid I've done that. Had a low cost recording studio for a while which had egg cartons for the acoustic tiles.
@DeadShred9
@DeadShred9 8 жыл бұрын
Lynn Magnuson Yeah egg cartons and foam padding from Apartments or homes that were getting re-carpeted ! Worked really really well ...
@rolandcoleman9796
@rolandcoleman9796 7 жыл бұрын
9
@louf7178
@louf7178 7 жыл бұрын
Aaron #The80'sRocked Good idea! Thx.
@grayghost20000
@grayghost20000 5 жыл бұрын
Good idea
@acousticlullabies
@acousticlullabies 3 жыл бұрын
During an emergency which is the only time I would have to use my generator the sound is the last of my worries.
@ronnierocha9894
@ronnierocha9894 3 жыл бұрын
true
@killerdeamonking
@killerdeamonking 3 жыл бұрын
That would be true if you live far enough away from people otherwise you guys would have people who would want to steal your generator, I'm actually planning on using a type 1 VW 4 cylinder with a quiet muffler and a home built inverter generator and low rpm preferably 1800 rpm which is near idle speed with a belt driven governor for when loads change. So yes this issue would be a giant generator setup stationed in a garage or out building .
@pokeyrebel3730
@pokeyrebel3730 3 жыл бұрын
I have thought about doing something like this for rving. My thought was a box made of foam board insulation over the generator. Anything enclosed will usually be quieter. As long as there is enough room for air circulation and oxygen input it should work. I was thinking of a small intake tube and exhaust fan mounted to the box. Be fun to try.
@logan_e
@logan_e 2 жыл бұрын
I see quite a few comments about using a fan to help remove exhaust and since most of the generators in this category are limited output, people need to consider the fan's consumption of the available wattage. Just saying!
@projet2907
@projet2907 11 ай бұрын
Do you really have to use sheet rock on the exaust side ? I am just thinking about rain. Would it be dangerous for fire with plywood?
@jamesrodgers3132
@jamesrodgers3132 3 жыл бұрын
The thumbnails of your other videos covered up the hour meter so well that I couldn't see it all. But thanks for the video anyway.
@sparky5543
@sparky5543 3 жыл бұрын
They do that on just about all videos! They are SO annoying when trying to watch to the end! I am not sure, but I think YT is doing that :(
@nomadicgrenada
@nomadicgrenada 5 жыл бұрын
I used to run a generator on the back of my boat, to reduce exhaust noise I pushed a foot of copper pipe onto the exhaust tail, a 90° bend down the floor and then runs down into a small container of water. The exhaust gasses bubble through the water. Massive reduction in noise. It ran fine with no noticeable back pressure issues.
@Barnekkid
@Barnekkid 7 жыл бұрын
Good thing to know for those impromptu situations. Thanks for the idea. And dude, nice yard.
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@4gauge10
@4gauge10 7 жыл бұрын
+sixtyfiveford How about a "sound proof room"and venting your exhaust through the bottom of the room below ground...this would reduce the sound down very close to zero,very nice video,but sheetrock doesn't do well if it gets wet in the rain.
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 7 жыл бұрын
4 gauge A full enclosure with a cooling fan is ideal for sound. Leaning boards was just shows people they don't need to get technical and can easily drop the sound with stuff they may already have laying around.
@4gauge10
@4gauge10 7 жыл бұрын
+sixtyfiveford Oh I know...I guess the way that I was looking at it,if your spending a $1,000.00 or more on this type of equipment,one is not just going to lay boards on it.
@tylerfoss3346
@tylerfoss3346 7 ай бұрын
Man, this is awesome! Truly! It's simple, it's cheap and it's effective! Bravo, sir!! BRAVO!!!
@Oktokolo
@Oktokolo Жыл бұрын
A scaled-up suppressor should work fine for dampening the exhaust noise without affecting performance. Basically have the exhaust go through a larger pipe lined with rockwool on the inside (but keep the original exhaust pipe's diameter free for unhindered gas flow).
@newelldecker3255
@newelldecker3255 5 жыл бұрын
This is a very nice video explanation. However, the author and most of the commentors have the physics of sound incorrect. As an acoustical expert i would point out the following. 1. a 3 dB reduction in the sound level is equal to a 50% reduction in the sound pressure level. 2. Where human listeners are concerned, it takes a 10 dB reduction in sound pressure to realize a 50% reduction in LOUDNESS. Loudness being the psychological aspect of sound and Sound Pressure being the physical aspect of sound.
@72marshflower15
@72marshflower15 5 жыл бұрын
Is that why it seems to be half as loud?
@vocalpatriot
@vocalpatriot 4 жыл бұрын
no one gives a shit
@scottfirman
@scottfirman 7 жыл бұрын
I built a dog house for mine,it comes apart for camping. its really quiet. I have used a snowmobile exaust system too,it works much better than a car muffler and smaller. Dont use a really old one,use a newer one. I was surprised how much quieter it was using both.
@btsmanman
@btsmanman 7 жыл бұрын
hey right on, did the same. Works well to keep the snow off it too. And it's pretty secure inside it.
@CainnechK
@CainnechK 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if stapling wool blankets to the inside of the plywood would help even more
@larrybell4599
@larrybell4599 3 жыл бұрын
Great demonstration!! Thank you
@froglobster
@froglobster 9 жыл бұрын
I know its work but I did-, I built a plywood box on 5 inch furniture wheels for my 3500W champion (cosco), cutout a 10 inch fan hole opposite exhaust end,- industrial fan from princess auto keeps the engine cooler on hot days, made a hinged hatch on top for pouring gas into tank, left an exhaust-roll in roll out genny hole to remove generator, used soundproof/ fireproof insulation inside stapled in with chicken wire, dropped 24-26 decibels-this was necessary for my use love it
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 9 жыл бұрын
***** Sounds like a great generator shed.
@rickgiles7955
@rickgiles7955 5 жыл бұрын
Dude, im gonna try this. Mine is loud
@fredbentley4944
@fredbentley4944 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Straight simple demonstration of a very simple but effective principle !
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.
@propellerhead9197
@propellerhead9197 4 жыл бұрын
Also, converting them to burn propane or natural gas makes them a bit quieter, and they won't surge too. There is a kit available for most with a throttle plate that allows you to use all 3 fuel sources. Natural gas is nice for extended outages. With quick connections. The machine runs cooler as well.
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 4 жыл бұрын
I've converted a few machines for customers and I agree a little. There might be a tiny bit of sound reduction. I think any minute sound reduction is due to having a large regulator bolted to the side of the motor where most of the sound comes out. So it's simply deflecting sound. I haven't noticed any heat reduction but I don't think running off gas overheats them either. If they do run cooler, it's because there is less energy in LPG/NG and the generator is running lower than peak performance.
@jeffstone7912
@jeffstone7912 6 жыл бұрын
Old carpet stapled onto The underside of the plywood will reduce sound even more
@jamesrodgers3132
@jamesrodgers3132 3 жыл бұрын
Stapled to the outside would be safer.
@Jarmezrocks
@Jarmezrocks 5 жыл бұрын
As stupid as it may seem, this deserves a like. It's ingenious and so simple? Cheers
@ajrace5203
@ajrace5203 Жыл бұрын
Wow!!! Its simple and it looks beautiful in your garden or patio.
@randygalla1411
@randygalla1411 Жыл бұрын
In construction we used to make a three sided box with a top and staple old carpeting to the plywood on the inside. The open side was away from us. Huge difference.
@Ram-re5em
@Ram-re5em 5 жыл бұрын
I just turn up my stereo and cant hear it anymore
@shillout7270
@shillout7270 4 жыл бұрын
Happens for rattly, squeaky old cars too. Just turn up the stereo. No stereo- Don't buy it!
@billconserva1461
@billconserva1461 5 жыл бұрын
One big problem, in high temperatures, like 85 and above, you restrict air from cooling, an air cooled machine.
@Terryblount
@Terryblount 4 жыл бұрын
You are correct. Everyone on youtube who has ideas to run something quiter says to smother it. They will run much hotter. If it was a good idea you would think the mfg would recommend that you leave them in the box they are shipped in.
@westmcgee9320
@westmcgee9320 3 жыл бұрын
You can deflect sound without blocking all airflow.
@naomipasswaters577
@naomipasswaters577 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!!! Love your truck! 😊😉
@Numerick1
@Numerick1 5 жыл бұрын
I love your lawn, it's perfect!!
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@ChiTownTino
@ChiTownTino 5 жыл бұрын
What about the Tremors? They’ll feel the vibration and eat it right away!
@x.y.8581
@x.y.8581 5 жыл бұрын
You mean the Graboids I thunk
@MrKWiley918
@MrKWiley918 4 жыл бұрын
The spice worms you mean?
@x.y.8581
@x.y.8581 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrKWiley918 No they're called Graboids
@Sirskibumsalot
@Sirskibumsalot 4 жыл бұрын
Ass Blasters too ....ha !
@williamcrabtree
@williamcrabtree 4 жыл бұрын
Snakoids people SNAKEOIDS 🤣🤣🤣
@TracksideTyson
@TracksideTyson 7 жыл бұрын
you are a scientist, an engineer
@Bob1Mack
@Bob1Mack 3 жыл бұрын
Ooo! Using brains instead of money! What a concept. Nice work.
@acet7
@acet7 4 жыл бұрын
Do you have any issue with over heating since it does not have air flow all around?
@bakeot
@bakeot 4 жыл бұрын
Lmfao the Subaru joke it's so true haha
@rendyrincon2449
@rendyrincon2449 6 жыл бұрын
Sixtyfive!? Your grass is on point 😂🙌🏽
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@Bwanar1
@Bwanar1 3 жыл бұрын
You gotta watch out for blocking air circulation and heat dissipation. Even without a top, I have had generators overheat and shut down. Most of the time down south here when the temperatures are already pretty high.
@texasRoofDoctor
@texasRoofDoctor 2 жыл бұрын
Nice work. Thank you for sharing your idea.
@dmmadde
@dmmadde 8 жыл бұрын
I wish my lawn looked that good.
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 8 жыл бұрын
+dmmadde Thanks...
@fordtechchris
@fordtechchris 3 жыл бұрын
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@robmclaughlin420
@robmclaughlin420 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like a carpet
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