Built-In Hot Water and Shower System for Touring/Overlanding

Built-In Hot Water and Shower System for Touring/Overlanding | 4xAdventures

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A new twist to an old design. This may well be the perfect setup!
Over the years, I have experimented with many different hot water and shower systems. Overlanding/Touring has certain challenges when it comes to water usage. I designed and built this hot water and shower system to be extremely quick to set up ~1 min), heat water instantly and to not waste a single drop of water with trying to get the temperature right. As a bonus, it doesn't take up any room at all in the 4WD.
Products used:
- Glind Heat Exchanger
- Australia: 4xadventures.com.au or glind.com.au
- USA glindhotshower.com
- Seaflow 9.5L automatic pressure sensing water pump - available in Australia at roadtechmarine.com.au or RV/caravan/marine supply stores.
- John Guest plumbing fittings (johnguest.com or roadtechmarine.com.au)
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@ThePlim62 2 жыл бұрын

I have the Glind system set up on my car with the two hose connections plumbed to the front of the bull bar. In between the two connectors is a marine switch to turn on the pump. This eliminates having to lift the Bonnet. People who own these systems are always under the impression they have to run the motor while they have the shower. This is not true. You can heat the water first. What I do is, using two short hoses I heat the water up in my shower jerrycan first. I have a thermometer dropped in it that has an alarm set at my desired temperature, which for us is 45°C. The wife loves a very hot shower so she goes first and then by the time I go in the water has dropped that little bit which suits me. While the water is heating I set up the shower pole at the front of the bull bar. I prefer the shower at the front of the car so it’s not soaking the ground around the door areas. Once the water reaches the desired temperature, the alarm goes off. I then turn the pump off and the car off and swap the two short hoses for the shower hoses. The water temperature only drops minimal by the time you’ve had your complete shower. It’s a way better experience having a shower without the motor running. You can enjoy the tranquility of the bush. If we need privacy I have a pop-up ensuite that just clips onto the front of the bull bar. We’ve had this system on the car for about 12 years now. In my opinion, these are by far way superior than any other shower system. No matter what the weather conditions are you’ve always got a hot shower. All the bulky componentry’s are under the Bonnet and out of the way.

@andrewsimpson1433 Жыл бұрын

Hey mate what connections did you connect to your bar?

@ThePlim62 Жыл бұрын

@@andrewsimpson1433 Standard brass hose fittings. The male ends. This is so I can connect blocked off female ends that act as covers.

@Sco33a101 2 жыл бұрын

Well done, been looking for a setup exactly like this. However a step by step installation would be absolute mint

@4xAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Check out the hot water system FAQ video. Although it’s not an installation video, it may answer any questions you may still have. I’m trying to organise an installation video - stay tuned! All the best! 😊👍

@kentwillis 2 жыл бұрын

Great video... thanks for sharing! 👌

@4xAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

I’m very glad you found it useful! All the best! 😊👍

@jonathancamardo422 Жыл бұрын

Spectacular. Thanks for sharing.

@TOliver987 2 жыл бұрын

In America we just call it PEX and is sold at any home supply store such as home depot. We mostly use it in homes and rvs.

@richardstitt7463 3 жыл бұрын

Wow fantastic with options, tank or lake, city water. Love it. Thanks sooo much!🙉😊

@4xAdventures 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much! 😊👍

@TheLandyExpedition Жыл бұрын

Thanks very much for this! 👍🏻

@largejohn77 3 жыл бұрын

Sir, you nailed it. Simple. Efficient. Brilliant.

@4xAdventures 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you 😊👍

@largejohn77 3 жыл бұрын

@@4xAdventures Where did you source your actual heat exchanger from?

@4xAdventures 3 жыл бұрын

I purchased mine from Glind here in Australia. I actually liked their product so much, I asked if I could become a reseller, which I now am. If you are in Australia, you can purchase from 4xAdventures.com.au. Same price as the Glind web site. If you are in the US, I’d recommend purchasing from Glindhotshower.com as you would save on postage & currency conversion.

@janeyblackswan2042 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for that, I had that idea in my head, happy to hear the tempering valve cuts the mustard for temperature control, far better than the gas systems I've seen, Im in the process of doing up my FJ too, space is an issue their LOL Thanks for your input on all your ideas fantastic job. Andrew and Janey in WA

@4xAdventures 4 жыл бұрын

Hi there :) I’m glad you found the video useful. Yes, this method is far better and slot less fiddly than the gas method. Good luck with your FJ!! 😊👍

@jeffreydecker3189 2 жыл бұрын

This is freaking genius.

@4xAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

Ha! Thanks very much!! 😊👍

@marcmurrell8827 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent video mate, thanks for sharing

@4xAdventures 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much!! 😊👍

@zman92630 Жыл бұрын

This is a tremendously clever setup, my friend! Nicely done!

@4xAdventures Жыл бұрын

Thankyou so much! It’s evolved quite a bit since that video was made. I might do an update video soon. All the best! 😊👍

@Mark-ks9jj 6 ай бұрын

That is a nice install, simple, efficient & elegant, does away with the overheating issues that others complain about with the Glind system, a temper valve just makes it simpler & better. Love the pop out shower cubical as well. I will look into that pressure piping for my install as I just scored a full Glind system in a case for free today.

@4xAdventures 6 ай бұрын

Thankyou! 😊👍

@steveberg2685 4 жыл бұрын

Great video. I especially like the use of the tempering valve. Thanks

@4xAdventures 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much!! 😊👍

@nuggets.6774 4 жыл бұрын

Like many others who have replied, thanks for this really clear explanation of your clever hot water set-up. I've had a Glind exchanger sitting in the shed for a while now as I haven't been too sure how to best set it up. Now I do. I've subscribed and look forward to watching more of your videos. Thanks again.

@4xAdventures 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much!! And welcome to the channel ☺️👍

@chloedavison9568 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome job mate. Definitely be using your system and ideas for my van conversion. I really have no idea why this hasn't taken off in the van community

@4xAdventures 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much Chloe! Good luck with building it. All the best! 😊👍

@mikewilson8423 3 жыл бұрын

Great setup! Thanks for putting this together.

@4xAdventures 3 жыл бұрын

Not a problem! Thanks for watching! 😊👍

@ausloadventures Жыл бұрын

Epic mate! Great set up.

@4xAdventures Жыл бұрын

Thanks very much!

@mccullochoutdoors9929 3 жыл бұрын

Great setup. Thanks for sharing

@4xAdventures 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much! 😊👍

@warwickchate1083 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the great information. I’m halfway through fitting a Scintex 30 plate heat exchanger to my FJ. I’m now going to incorporate a temper valve and the JG piping.

@4xAdventures 3 жыл бұрын

No problems! I haven’t seen that heat exchanger before. I’ll check it out. Re. The pump, just make sure you use a pressure sensing pump, otherwise you won’t get enough pressure to make things work properly! Good luck!! 😊👍

@warwickchate1083 3 жыл бұрын

@@4xAdventures yes, Seaflo pump pressure sensing. I'm building a solid, reliable system. It will take some time & $$ but it will be worth it 👍😀

@4xAdventures 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, it isn’t the cheapest solution, but it works really well & should last as long as the car does. And no hassles with lugging showering contraptions around with long setup times. I think this is a great solution :)

@muralidharamysore2549 3 жыл бұрын

Hi, very thoughtful set -up. Thanks for sharing . Could you please make a video about your water set-up ? It looks quite interesting ! Many thanks.

@4xAdventures 3 жыл бұрын

Thankyou. There have been a few people asking about that, so I might just make a video, once our lockdown ends. All the beset!

@tbillington 4 жыл бұрын

Nice work mate. Great idea with the tempering valve. Love the yellow FJ as well.

@4xAdventures 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much!! 😊👍

@alsaffarstudios 3 жыл бұрын

Outstanding work, this is a very practical creative idea. Well done and thanks for sharing it with us

@4xAdventures 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you kindly! 😊👍

@CiscosDisco22 4 жыл бұрын

Brilliant. Really well thought out.

@4xAdventures 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much. 😊👍

@akselschmidt501 4 жыл бұрын

I was looking for someone explaining this kind of system! I had a hard time finding someone but I'm glad I did. Thanks a lot!

@4xAdventures 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Aksel. I’m glad you found the video useful! ☺️👍

@jasonvassallo6677 4 жыл бұрын

You really made it sound so simple. Great job!

@4xAdventures 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much! :) It IS simple... kind of :)

@martinreid2378 3 жыл бұрын

bloody brilliant... love ur work mate!

@4xAdventures 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much!! 😊👍

@raymondcasey5747 4 жыл бұрын

Brilliant idea. 👍

@4xAdventures 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!! 😊👍

@hghori1 4 ай бұрын

Awesome 👌 thanks

@fattyp7785 4 жыл бұрын

Great video,I will be doing the exact same thing. Cheers!

@4xAdventures 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much!! 😊👍

@JacobShepherdEngineer 2 жыл бұрын

Great idea!

@4xAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much!! 😊👍

@PatoKaminsky 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome idea!

@4xAdventures 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much! :)

@jurlaalbaba8294 3 жыл бұрын

Appreciate you putting the effort into helping others, thanks. Just what I was searching for ! Great job, very efficient system! You should get it patented sir!!!!!

@4xAdventures 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you kindly! 😊👍

@cynforrest 4 жыл бұрын

Fantastic idea! Thanks for detailed explanation. Hello from California USA. New subbie.

@4xAdventures 4 жыл бұрын

Hello Cyn! Lovely to hear from you. Thanks very much, and welcome to the channel. I hope you enjoy the videos. ☺️

@docdysan 4 жыл бұрын

Great Video!

@4xAdventures 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much!!

@ChrisTurnerPhotographer 2 жыл бұрын

Genius

@Yipmanhands 3 жыл бұрын

Mate, brilliant set up. Well done you.

@4xAdventures 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much!! 😊👍

@extra7219 Жыл бұрын

genius!

@lachiemcconville 4 жыл бұрын

I’ve got a companion aqua cube lithium and I spent two weeks away over Christmas everyday and it never let me down, in my opinion better than a heat exchanger

@4xAdventures 4 жыл бұрын

I also have a Coleman hot water on demand, which is similar to what you have. Every product has its strengths & weaknesses. I’m glad you’re satisfied with your product. The reason I decided to make my own hot water system is because i wasn’t satisfied with the Coleman unit. It was incredibly wasteful with water, and it took ages to set up - lots of clutter & paraphernalia. I think if you’re staying at one camp site for a few days, then it’s fine to set it up & leave it, but I was after something that was simple, quick to setup & efficient with water. So I think I’ve improved on my old Coleman system, which I found to be a hassle. But, to each their own! 😊👍

@ivanbiscan1587 4 жыл бұрын

Great informative video well done .👍

@4xAdventures 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much!

@joeldobbinsmusic 4 жыл бұрын

Really informative video! Really like the titles and overall editing a lot more. Keep up the good work!

@4xAdventures 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much!!

@Wiradjuri217 3 жыл бұрын

Nice! will definitely rig something similar

@4xAdventures 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! It works really well. 😊👍

@benw2751 4 жыл бұрын

Wow. Well done sir. Love the system. You got yourself a subscriber after 1 vid !

@4xAdventures 4 жыл бұрын

G’day Ben, thanks very much!! And welcome to the channel 👍☺️

@Glindshowers Жыл бұрын

Excellent work Atilla

@4xAdventures Жыл бұрын

Thanks very much Tim!

@joeydegraw7063 4 жыл бұрын

This is great! I'm in Nashville, TN and am building out a 2020 Tacoma Off Road. I just found my shower solution. Thank you for taking the time to make this video and post it.

@4xAdventures 4 жыл бұрын

Hey Joey! Thanks very much for watching! I’m glad you found it useful. I’m sure you will be satisfied with this solution. I’d love to see the completed Tacoma - they are great vehicles!! 😊👍

@joeydegraw7063 4 жыл бұрын

@@4xAdventures Is this the correct exchanger? glind.com.au/store/heat-exchangers/glind-auto-marine-heat-exchanger/ Model SKU: GL27 Auto and Marine. I'll for sure share some pics when its completed!

@4xAdventures 4 жыл бұрын

Yes, that’s the one. Glind has a US distributor. Check the video description for the link. That may save you international currency & shipping fees. :)

@joeydegraw7063 4 жыл бұрын

@@4xAdventures Would the SEAFLO water pressure pump Model : SFDP1-070-060-53 do the trick? Also, if its not too much trouble, can you tell me what model temper valve you decided on? Thank you very much for your time and knowledge.

@stuntmantravis84 4 жыл бұрын

Been looking for something exactly like this for awhile now. Great video, and very informative. The diagram at the end just topped it off. Thank you!!!

@4xAdventures 4 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching, and if you build it, good luck! Let me know if you have any questions. 😊👍

@stuntmantravis84 4 жыл бұрын

@@4xAdventures I'm not sure I'm smart enough to build it myself lol but I checked out glinds site after watching this and they sell a kit that comes with everything needed. I might just go that route

@4xAdventures 4 жыл бұрын

Cool. There’s nothing wrong with just using their heat exchanger & pump. I just thought I’d make an improvement. :)

@stuntmantravis84 4 жыл бұрын

@@4xAdventures you definitely did. And I will be adding the temper valve like your set up. For the cost and ease of use theres not reason not to.

@nikolatesla3708 4 жыл бұрын

brilliant work mate

@4xAdventures 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you kindly! 😊👍

@NigelNaughton 4 жыл бұрын

Nice work!

@4xAdventures 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much!! 😊👍

@TheOutbackmojo 3 жыл бұрын

Bloody brilliant, well thought out and hassle free. the only improvement I could think of is a foot operated trigger for the water allowing hands free washing.

@4xAdventures 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much!! Good idea! 🤔

@TheOutbackmojo 3 жыл бұрын

Keep up the great content and happy travels for 2021.

@4xAdventures 3 жыл бұрын

Thankyou! And thanks very much for watching 😊👍

@czar2230 3 жыл бұрын

Great Video!! I just recently discovered your channel and I think it is one of the best overlanding channels out there!! This idea for hot water is brilliant. I am going to set this up on my rig. Thank You!!

@4xAdventures 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much!! 😊👍

@Mattandtracyj 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve been searching for something, just didn’t know what it was, I now know. Thank you sir.

@4xAdventures 3 жыл бұрын

No worries at all! Thanks for watching!! 😊👍

@JaiPandit1989 3 жыл бұрын

Who can set it up in my 2020 Rav4?? Is it. DIY project? Can you please list all the parts being used it this video

@4xAdventures 3 жыл бұрын

Hi there. Yes, it is a DIY project. It’s not difficult. All the parts can be found in the description. Good luck!! 😊👍

@markedward5941 2 жыл бұрын

noice work mate

@4xAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much! 😊👍

@justinlyle7831 Жыл бұрын

Great video

@4xAdventures Жыл бұрын

Thanks very much! 😊👍

@glenntucker9710 4 жыл бұрын

Love the system. A shower on a camping trip to me is absolutely the best! Brilliant use of available heat and efficient use of water.

@4xAdventures 4 жыл бұрын

Thankyou kindly!! 😊👍

@swiftmarket4734 2 жыл бұрын

Maybe you could post a materials list in your description of this video or your faq video with all the parts you’ve used in this build. This would be very helpful.

@4xAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

Hi there. I have a list of websites where you can purchase the various components. I have added this to the description of both videos. 😊👍

@BurtonsAttic 4 жыл бұрын

Great design! I was already on this path and you gave me the last 20%, thx.

@4xAdventures 4 жыл бұрын

Not a problem!! Enjoy! 😊👍

@BurtonsAttic 4 жыл бұрын

@@4xAdventures are you on Instagram?

@4xAdventures 4 жыл бұрын

Yes! Instagram is: 4xAdventures_australia

@dodgygeezah4707 3 жыл бұрын

Genius! Would love a more detailed diagram showing what goes where though! Thanks.

@4xAdventures 3 жыл бұрын

Thankyou! The schematic near the end of the video is about as complicated (simple) as it gets. I’m planning another video (just as soon as I get time) of an installation end to end, so that should answer any questions you may have! 😊👍

@XvTOASTvX 3 жыл бұрын

Great job mate that’s very interesting

@4xAdventures 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much!! 😊👍

@XvTOASTvX 3 жыл бұрын

@@4xAdventures how much did that system set you back?

@Beyondthebackyard-au 2 жыл бұрын

Nice system. I had hoped you'd made your heat exchanger yourself as this is the part I am searching for. But I will steal that temper valve idea :)

@4xAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

Thankyou! I don’t make the heat exchanger, but I liked the idea so much I have eventually become a reseller of the Glind heat exchanger. You can check out 4xAdventures.com.au for more details if you’re interested. I’m still working on how to sell all these bits as a kit, but it’s quite difficult as every car is different. All the best! 😊👍

@Beyondthebackyard-au 2 жыл бұрын

@@4xAdventures I am trying to work on a slightly different system, I am not sure if I am wasting my time or not, but I am looking at having a hot water storage tank, and the heat exchange would be like a coil running through that tank. My theory was I could have 20l of hot water stored. Too much for just one but I camp with the whole family often. The problem is where to put a tank in an overland vehicle. I would imagine your system may require an engine running if I was to shower a bunch of people?

@4xAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, it’s fine for a while with the engine off, but eventually you would lose heat. Your best option is to get yourself a Duoetto electric hot water heater. They have 10L and 6L versions. They are excellent. If you look at my plumbing, just replace the heat exchanger with the electric water heater - you can still use the temper valve & pump and it will work perfectly well. With 10L you should easily be able to shower 4 people. I will hopefully list their products for sale on my website soon. 😊😂

@neardood1 3 жыл бұрын

The system I just built is a tad simpler. I used a ball valve on the inlet of the coolant to the heat exchanger to control the shower temperature. The more you shut the valve, the colder the water gets. I also used a pump and a solenoid valve instead of a pressure sensing pump.

@4xAdventures 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent! Very clever!! I guess just don’t forget to open the ball valve fully before driving :) Do you have to keep adjusting the ball valve each time until the water temperature is right? The advantage of the temper valve is you get the correct temperature water straight away without wasting water. But I like your setup! Great job! 😊👍

@neardood1 3 жыл бұрын

@@4xAdventures I just leave it fully open. So far my setup produces pretty much perfect water temperature with the engine idling, and if I need to make it cooler i can always close the valve a bit.

@4xAdventures 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent!! :)

@andrewmcmahn7946 4 жыл бұрын

Great to meet you in person and Thank you for the in-depth explanation on how the system works.

@4xAdventures 4 жыл бұрын

G’day Andrew, it was lovely to meet you too! Good luck with your 200 series!! 😊👍

@4xAdventures 4 жыл бұрын

Also, let me know if you want to go ahead with the heat exchanger & shower system.

@andrewmcmahn7946 4 жыл бұрын

4xAdventures definitely going ahead👍, contacted Berrima Diesel today. They no longer install heat exchange so I may need to rely on you for my VDJ79 build 🙏🏼🤞

@4xAdventures 4 жыл бұрын

No worries. Just let me know when you’re ready & we’ll work out the details.

@andrewmcmahn7946 4 жыл бұрын

4xAdventures should get my 79 back from ARB by March 11.

@maxmoua8487 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome video. Waiting for your detailed install video now. I have a 5th Gen 4Runner. Id think the install would be the same as your FJ. Subscribed!

@4xAdventures 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I am hoping to film a complete install soon. Just waiting for availability of someone’s vehicle. 😊👍

@maxmoua8487 3 жыл бұрын

@@4xAdventures Can you show me how you connected the heat exchanger to the vehicle?

@DanielBowenTech 3 жыл бұрын

What is the sort of temper valve you used? Would you change/modify/upgrade anything about this setup given the 14 months that have passed since you posted this video? Thank you for this solution! It's very well thought out, and I'm trying to find a way to do this on my Jeep JL now.

@nathanielsauerwin1685 2 жыл бұрын

Thats really nice i need a setuo like tge plumbing

@4xAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much :)

@larryingle9966 4 жыл бұрын

Good job! Would you be able to indicate what small things you left out in your diagram (republish?) and where the one-way valves need to go (and what type/make)? Thanks!

@4xAdventures 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much Larry! I’m actually planning on shooting a follow up video very soon to answer those questions and others.

@lesstraveled4740 3 жыл бұрын

I really need to do this with my Jeep!

@4xAdventures 3 жыл бұрын

It works with any vehicle. And the beauty is, if you have a small car, it takes up no space at all, and you don’t need to carry separate hot water tank - as is the case if you were to use an electric boiler. Good luck!! 😊👍

@lesstraveled4740 3 жыл бұрын

4xAdventures thank you!!!

@markleitch2536 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the posting on hot water showers! Did you attach the heat exchanger, tempering valve and pump to the side walls under the hood? I have a RAM Promaster with a tiny hood and crowded engine compartment, won't fit under there, have you heard of anyone who's installed this set up in a Promaster? Thanks!

@4xAdventures 3 жыл бұрын

G’day Mark, no I haven’t. I’m currently doing an install where the pump is at the rear of the vehicle and only the heat exchanger and temper valve are in the engine bay. You can get a variety of shapes & sizes of heat exchanger, so you may be able to find something that can fit. If all else fails, a possible alternative may be to use an electric water heater and place the whole setup in the back - depending on if you have room, and sufficient battery capacity. Oh, I had to make a custom bracket for my heat exchanger because I had no room to mount it to the sidewall of the engine bay. This way, I have it located in a space between other components just near the engine. Hope that helps. All the best! 😊👍

@UrbanCynic101 3 жыл бұрын

This is the way to do it! Love it! Can you please tell me if the pump you recommend will lift water up from a bucket or even a creek with out the need of priming it first? It looks like you have it located higher than your tank?

@4xAdventures 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! The pump can definitely lift water from a bucket, no issues at all. The factors that determine if/how well the pump works in other scenarios are: length of hose, the incline up which you draw the water. I haven’t tested this over long hose runs or up steep hills, so can’t give you a more definitive answer, but I do remember reading the pump specs where this information was documented. Perhaps try to find the technical specs for the pump? It is a Seaflow 9.5LPM automatic pressure sensing pump. All the best! 😊👍

@JohnArmstrongPhotography 2 жыл бұрын

You may have been asked already. Is that small pump able to self prime and pump water up a long hose placed in a river or external water supply? I can understand pumping from the tank, not being far from the pump and also being slightly elevated, but down to a river is hard to imagine. Good job, nice setup.

@4xAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

G’day John, This depends entirely on the pump used. Some pumps will actually publish the incline and distance that they are able to pull water up on the inlet side. I have tested this particular pump with a 10m hose and that works ok, however the incline will ultimately determine how effective it is. I haven’t tested it with a steep drop as yet - simply because I haven’t yet had the need or circumstances arise. I don’t have the booklet that came with the pump with me at the moment, but when choosing a pump, look for the ratio 1:xx for the incline on the input side if this is likely to be important to you. You can always just take a collapsible 10L bucket with you and fill it up from the river and the pump it in from next to the car. All the best! 😊👍

@JohnArmstrongPhotography 2 жыл бұрын

@@4xAdventures thanks for your reply and helpful info.

@biketothetop 4 жыл бұрын

Great work, Thanks for sharing! I wonder if the plumbing hardware you used is robust enough for the sustained duty cycle and rigors in an Automotive environment?

@4xAdventures 4 жыл бұрын

Thankyou. It should be. As I understand, it’s designed for this purpose. That said, the shower is in use only for a few minutes each time, so the vast majority of the time, it sits there unused. The components are designed for high temperature, so it will be interesting to see how they cope over time. I also made sure to allow some flex & movement in the plumbing which should help as well. Time will tell!

@itspj 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, love the idea of the JG Speedfit. How did you connect the Speedfit to the glind heat exchanger? Also how has the speedfit been with vibrations etc?

@4xAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

Thankyou! The Glind heat exchanger has barb connectors on it, so I am using a short length of hose to go from that to a barb-JG connector. But, I’ve spoken to Glind, and they will be offering a choice of barb or JG connections on the heat exchanger!! It’s been rock solid over the past few years. The speed fit connections are designed to just get tighter if you try to pull them apart without first pushing together and depressing the outer ring, so they can’t come apart. Very clever design! 😊👍

@peterspartan 3 жыл бұрын

I love the idea of a Glind system and you take on it. I use a portable HWS that is proving very impacticle. I have a LR Discovery 4 and was wondering if you could install the Glind system into that? The challenge being is that it is very limited in space inside the engine bay. What do you think? Could you supply what is needed?

@4xAdventures 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Peter. Thanks very much. The heat exchanger works very well, and especially the way I have set up the plumbing, it is very water efficient and works very well. Space in the engine bay can definitely be problematic on some vehicles. I had to make up a custom bracket to mount mine in "the air" because I had no more space left on the walls of the engine bay. I've seen the engine bay of a LandCruiser 200 series which is so cramped that you would never be able to fit this in. If you do have some room, ideally, the heat exchanger would be mounted close to the existing hoses so that you don't add too much length to the system. Other alternatives could be using an electric hot water system (like the Duoetto MkII) instead of the heat exchanger. I have built a system using this and it works just as well. I can supply the heat exchanger if you like. I've been working on putting together a kit with all the parts, however I haven't had too much success with obtaining a wholesale price for the plumbing, therefore at the moment, you could buy all the plumbing parts and pump cheaper yourself, but I will keep working on sourcing the plumbing for the kit. If there's enough interest, I could still put together a kit now. Let me know if you are interested in either the kit or just the heat exchanger and I will set up an online store (half done already) so you can get going with things. All the best!

@robertnunezsf 3 жыл бұрын

Great system! Thanks for posting; i had one question; does the water supply tank have 2 outputs? One to feed the heat exchanger and one to the temper valve? Thanks !

@4xAdventures 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Robert, thanks very much! You’re almost on the right track. The water supply does split into 2 paths, but not from the tank. Check out the FAQ video I posted about the hot water system. That should answer all your questions! 😊👍

@marksteell7952 2 жыл бұрын

hey mate really enjoyed the video, it’s now 2 years on. how has the system held up over the last 2 years?

@Dzlegacy83 3 жыл бұрын

I’m gearing up here in the next week or so to start installing my own pressure hot water system on my Jeep! I really like how yours is put together. I have a pressure sensing pump, heat exchanger, temper valve and in-line screen filter. I won’t have a storage tank yet, as I need to give that a little more thought as to the location. I’m curious, since I’m a visual person, do you have some sort of diagram as to how all the plumbing hooks to all the parts? Thank you in advance, love your simple system.

@4xAdventures 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much! There is a diagram at the end of the video. Also, there is a follow up FAQ video where I go over the whole system in fine detail and explain how to plumb it all together. Good luck with your build!! 😊👍

@surfsquirter29 3 жыл бұрын

Will the tempering valve stop the water flow out the mix output if the water temperature is under the set temperature or only if it is over the set temperature and not able to get cold water through to mix it? Meaning if the vehicle is not hot enough to enable the heat-exchanger to provide hot enough water for the tempering valve setting. Otherwise you could still waste plenty of water if you did not run the vehicle long enough before using the shower. Great set up by the way.

@4xAdventures 3 жыл бұрын

Thankyou. Yes, you are correct, the temper valve is designed to stop the temperature getting above the set threshold, but it will let colder temperatures through. I’m using a scangauge which is connected to the OBD port. It shows the engine water temperature, so I can tell by looking at that - but also just experience will allow you to gauge what the resulting output will be. But, you can always just leave the engine running and all will be good! 😊👍

@denisgately4701 4 жыл бұрын

Great system - I think you've solved the only real hassle I have had with a heat transfer shower system....by using the temper valve ! Brilliant ! I take it that the one pump can generate enough pressure to impel the water in 2 streams, one to the heat exchanger and the other to the temper valve ?

@denisgately4701 4 жыл бұрын

Actually, you have already answered my question above. Another one : did you get the under bonnet hoses and fittings from RTM too ?

@4xAdventures 4 жыл бұрын

G’day Denis, yes, you’ve got it! water source > pump > splitter. 1 path to heat exchanger > hot input of temper valve. The other path to cold input of temper valve. Mix output > shower rose/tap. Mine has evolved a bit beyond that now. I have a choice of inputs now & a few other tweaks, but that’s the basic flow.

@4xAdventures 4 жыл бұрын

The heat exchanger came with a few radiator hoses, but I had to go buy a few more from Repco to make it fit nicely.

@LiammonLemon 4 жыл бұрын

Hey really great video thank you. Only wish you said how much the set up cost you all up not including your time. Great ideas and following now.

@4xAdventures 4 жыл бұрын

G’day Liam, thanks very much!! If you really want to know, I reckon it cost about as much as the car did! 😳 But I learnt a heck of a lot doing it, had a massive amount of fun and got a custom setup that was perfect for my needs. :)

@dvouch 4 жыл бұрын

Great video! Ive got a glind system but no temper valve installed. Do you have a basic schematic on where exactly the temper valve is installed? I understand the hot side but not sure where in the system the cold water input gets diverted to the temper valve.

@4xAdventures 4 жыл бұрын

G’day Darrin. Thanks very much. There is a schematic at the end of the video which should indicate how the plumbing goes. But basically, it goes like this: water source -> 12V pump -> Y-splitter. One path goes straight to cold water input of temper valve. The other path goes to heat exchanger -> hot input of temper valve. The mix output of temper valve goes to shower head/trigger nozzle. That’s the basic plumbing. I have an in-line tap between the water source & the pump, as well as an inline tap before the shower connector outlet. Hope that helps! 😊👍

@plusultraoverland4799 4 жыл бұрын

Hi! Regards from Spain! Nice videos and nice car, congratulations. I have a question, probably because my english is not the best, but i cant understand how the system capture the heat, there is not radiator or something to tranfer it? By the way i would like to thank you very much for the efforce to prepare videos. Thats all, man! 👍

@4xAdventures 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Adrian! Thanks very much!! I’m glad you enjoyed the video :) The heat is transferred via the heat exchanger. The heat exchanger is the black cylinder I am pointing at under the bonnet. It contains 2 parallel copper tubes. Basically, the hot water coming out of the engine goes into your heating system. From there, it would normally return to the radiator. I cut this hose and inserted the heat exchanger at this point. So the hot water coming out from the heating system is now going through one of the copper tubes in the heat exchanger and then back into the radiator. The cold water is then passed through the other copper tube within the heat exchanger and off to the shower. Because the 2 copper tubes within the heat exchanger run parallel to each other, the heat is transferred to the cold water - heating it up. I forgot to mention that the copper tubes within the heat exchanger are coiled tightly around the inside of the unit, which increases the length and surface area, which maximises the length of time the tubes are touching and increases the heat transfer to the cold water. I hope that helps!! :) Thanks very much for watching! All the best!

@Rob_FJ Жыл бұрын

Great system, take it as a compliment, I am going to copy it. Your rooftop light bar, do you use it much? Any bonnet glare from that location? My bullbar mounted light bar is sufficient but I am thinking of adding a rooftop bar (because why not have more light?) but don’t want it to light up the bonnet….

@On3legs 4 жыл бұрын

Top stuff! I have an fj too. I have relocated my power steering fluid to where you have the heat exchanger. I wonder if I have enough room to fit one, I am in Sydney and would be keen to get your help to make one.

@4xAdventures 4 жыл бұрын

G’day Ben. I am installing one for someone in March. Happy to help if I can. Being in Sydney helps :)

@On3legs 4 жыл бұрын

4xAdventures that would be great. I am away until the 18th March. When are you planning the install. Maybe I could come and have a look

@4xAdventures 4 жыл бұрын

I don’t have dates worked out yet. All I know is it will most likely be in March sometime.

@anic0485 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video! Really like the idea behind this system and currently looking into different systems for our Overland troopy build. I don't wanna muck around with a gas bottle so looking at the glind system or a 12v heater. What are your experience with the system since you installed it? Any dramas with taking water from streams. Thinking about running a pump/small tank seperate from my drinking water tank. What heat mixer valve do you use?

@4xAdventures 3 жыл бұрын

G’day! The heat exchanger is fantastic. It’s zero hassle and completely reliable because it has no moving parts. The way I’ve done the plumbing makes everything super simple to setup & use. That said, I’ve also built one using the Duoetto 12V electric hot water boiler instead of the heat exchanger. Plumbing remains the same. That works just as well. There are advantages & disadvantages of each - it just depends on which system suits you better. Heat exchanger: no additional water to carry around, no “contraption” required to heat water, but you need to use while engine is still hit, or run engine for a few min. Electric water heater: can use whenever you like, but needs sufficient battery to power it (~25+amps) and water boiler holds 10L water, so added weight. My recommendation is to take a collapsible 10L bucket with you & scoop up as much water as you need. Then just run a hose to the bucket next to your car. The type of pump is essential. See the description for more info. I used the John Guest temper valve, but any temper valve will work perfectly. Best of luck!! 😊👍

@anic0485 3 жыл бұрын

@@4xAdventures thanks for your replay mate. I just got a 2nd hand glind heater unit including pump so I will give this a go. Thought about installing a 2nd Insulated 10-20l water tank which I can fill up whilst driving and maybe have hot water in demand for a couple hours after I stopped at camp. I do like the idea of a 12v heater as well. So much fun stuff to build!

@wesleymcgonagle3394 3 жыл бұрын

Just found your channel, great content... I'm an ex-pat living in the United States and had trouble trying to find that mixing valve that you had in this video, you wouldn't happen to have some information about that part? Looks like a got a few videos to watch. lol.

@4xAdventures 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Wes, welcome to the channel! I have some links in the description which should help you. You should be able to get the temper valve from johnguest.com. 😊👍

@benshawtrainingltd5190 3 жыл бұрын

Great video, thanks for sharing. I’m thinking of an Isotemp heat exchanger tank for my sprinter campervan. My question is, how long does the coolant stay hot enough to have a shower after you’ve stopped driving? I’m in the UK, so no 40° days here. Lol.

@4xAdventures 3 жыл бұрын

G’day Ben, Thankyou, and thanks for watching!! I actually answer this question in the follow up video. It’s too long to type the full answer here, but check out the “frequently asked questions” video first, and if you still have any questions, let me know! 😊👍

@benshawtrainingltd5190 3 жыл бұрын

@@4xAdventures Thanks for that. I’ve just watched the FAQ’s video. I’m still swayed towards the Isotemp slim square with the 16 litre tank. Just to keep it simple for my wife and kids to use. I would definitely go for your system if it was just myself. I’ll look forward to your installation video though, before I make a decision.

@kerriel2369 4 жыл бұрын

Hiya great video just wondering what brand heat exchange do you use as I am struggling to find a decent one thanks

@4xAdventures 4 жыл бұрын

Hi! Thanks very much! The heat exchanger is from Glind.com.au. They have been around for decades & have a good reputation. I haven’t tried others, but the unit I have is really solidly built - it will most likely last my lifetime, so am very happy with it. Thank you so much watching!! ☺️👍

@ericjpearson1 4 жыл бұрын

Great video, what a great system. I have a 2000 hiace trakka with an undercarriage tank of 118 litres and another 50 litres under the bed. The tank under the car used to heat off the coolant water via a hose running through a coil inside the tank, very efficient. Unfortunately the coil ruptured inside the tank and dumped all the coolant out the engine into the tank! Luckily I noticed the engine overheating and pulled over immediately. I've been toying with the idea of removing the tank, cutting the top of the tank off and replacing the coil then welding the tank shut again....big job. I've since come across the glind system which seems really practical to me, one question, my inline whale pump runs at 12 litres per minute, much more than the 3.8 litre per minute supplied with the glind system. I'm a bit concerned it will pump the water too quickly through the heat exchanger for it to heat efficiently. What litre per minute is your pump? I've been in contact with Trakka and they have told me I can reduce the flow by turning the tap down to reduce the flow which will alloy the water to get hotter.......Thanks in advance for your feedback.

@4xAdventures 4 жыл бұрын

G’day Eric, yes, that’s exactly what you should do. In fact, I do the same thing - just reduce the water flow rate by only opening the tap partially. My pump is an automatic pressure sensing pump (seaflow) which uses a diaphragm, so it can handle working at reduced capacities. I can definitely recommend the Glind heat exchanger as I’ve found it to be a rock solid product & it works very well, especially if you build your system to use a temper valve to control the temperature like I have. Good luck!! 😊👍

@ericjpearson1 4 жыл бұрын

@@4xAdventures I live in Qld so most of the year won't be using hot water and probably wont fit the temper valve, does this make sense to you? Happy to rethink if you suggest why it is practical no matter what the air temp is.

@4xAdventures 4 жыл бұрын

I’m in QLD right now, filming another adventure :) I know what you mean, in the summer the water in the tank is mostly at room temp or warmer, so you don’t really need to heat it. But, if you do want warm water, the temper valve is a sure fire way of getting the correct temperature without wasting water mixing hot & cold. You can adjust the temperature on the valve depending on summer-winter needs. That said, if you have a 160L tank, it sounds like you have plenty of water.

@Sharky_v 4 жыл бұрын

where to get the 9.5L pressure sensing water pump? also what water mixer did you use? I really like your setup and I want to build one similar to yours for my tacoma

@4xAdventures 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Vitri, Thanks very much. I’m not sure about other countries, but in Australia, Road Tech Marine sell them. For other countries, most boat/marine/RV/caravan supply stores should sell these. It’s a fairly common item that should be readily available. Same thing for the temper valve. Although you can also use a temper valve that standard plumbing supply shops would have. If it helps, maybe I can see if the parts are available on Amazon?

@LongNguyen-go5rc 3 жыл бұрын

Great video! Do you remember the diameters of the hoses you used? Thanks in advance!

@4xAdventures 3 жыл бұрын

Thankyou! I used 12mm quick fit hoses from John Guest for all the plumbing in the hot water/shower system (not including the radiator hoses, which would be specific to your vehicle & heat exchanger). Check the links in the description for more info! 😊👍

@cheriethompson5556 3 жыл бұрын

Fabulous idea and great video. Where and what do you store your water in ?

@4xAdventures 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Cherie, thanks very much :) The FJ’s are pretty limited for space. In Australia, they came standard with a 159L fuel tank, so there is no room underneath for water. I have a 22L water tank built in behind the drivers seat. (See my FJ build video for more details). Hope that helps!! :)

@Saltyncountrylivin 3 жыл бұрын

Hi just one more question I’m having trouble finding a heat exchanger to buy , any suggestions Thanks

@4xAdventures 3 жыл бұрын

Hi. I have some info in the description. In Australia, you can buy the heat exchanger from glind.com.au. In the US, go to glindhotshower.com. All the best! :)

@menglandau 3 жыл бұрын

I really like the temper valve idea. I had a glind shower in a Prado many years ago and always hated losing the water at the start because it was too hot or too cold. I just ordered a new glind shower this morning for my new 4WD. What temper valve did you use?

@4xAdventures 3 жыл бұрын

G’day Mark. Thankyou. Any temper valve will work. I’ve built these using temper valves from Bunnings. But, I used the John Guest temper valve for my build because it is WAY lighter than the standard plumbing ones. Also, the John Guest hoses & other quick-fit plumbing bits all work together nicely.

@menglandau 3 жыл бұрын

@@4xAdventures Excellent. Thanks for the quick reply.

@michaelbice34 2 жыл бұрын

this is awesome! does this system come out hot with the first cycle? ive seen on other videos people are have to cycle the water through the heat exchanger a few times to get it up to temp? thanks!

@4xAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

Thankyou. No cycling necessary. It comes out hot - apart from any water left in the hose after the heat - as that wouldn’t have passed through it. But that’s just a pretty small mount. 😊👍

@Klattu 2 жыл бұрын

Winterizing ? What do you do about fresh water in system between showers when it gets below freezing ?

@4xAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

Hi there. I haven’t had to deal with that because it just doesn’t get cold enough here for that to be a problem. I suppose you could insulate any piping runs that are outside of the cabin by running them through radiator hose or something similar… but that is just speculating because I’m not familiar with how these things are dealt with in cold climates.also, you could simply turn the water off at the input and keep the pump running for a few seconds to allow any water still in the piping to flow out. All the best! 😊👍

@TheDuke279 4 жыл бұрын

Wow! Very nice! Could you please tell me the brend of the temper valve? Thanks!

@4xAdventures 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much!! :) Any temper valve will work. The one I am using is by John Guest, simply because it is half the weight of a standard plumbing temper valve.

@psycholor6566 2 жыл бұрын

well Im not the only one haha I am in the process to build my hot shower system, I got the heat exchanger (different from yours) installed and was wondering how and where to install the pump, I like you put it on the engine bay, I didnt know about the temperature valve which is amazing, this changes the whole set up in my head, just one question to confirm something I'm thinking, if your heat exchanger doesn't produce hot water (lets say over 40C) right away the valve wouldn't work right?

@4xAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

Hi there. The pump can go anywhere you have space. In other vehicles, when there isn’t room in the engine bay, I install it elsewhere. As long as the plumbing is protected from heat in the engine bay and from stones etc. if you run it under the car along the chassis rails. The temper valve basically stops water above a set temperature from passing through. Anything colder will still go through it. Hope that answers your questions! There’s also an FAQ video which might answer any more questions you might have. Good luck with your build! 😊👍

@worldslightestweightportab2837 3 жыл бұрын

Brilliant!, how come you are not selling the kit yourself ? would be really helpful

@4xAdventures 3 жыл бұрын

Hi there. I am in the process of developing a kit. It’s not far off. Hopefully I can have something available in a few months. 🙂👍

@StormShadow008 3 жыл бұрын

Great video and idea! The only questions I have are would this system work in freezing temperatures? And is there a way to flush to system so the pipes don't burst in those temps? Also do you ever have any issues with the connections under you car when you go through mud? I would imagine the rubber gaskets on the connections would wear down quickly depending on where you're going in the bush under the car.

@4xAdventures 3 жыл бұрын

It rarely gets down to freezing temperatures here in Australia. The coldest I’ve used it in was about 4 deg C. You can always drain some of the water from the system once you shut the source off, that way, your pipes aren’t completely full and would allow for some expansion. That said, I really can’t comment with authority on how well suited the various components are to freezing temperatures. I would probably look at enclosing the pipes in suitable insulation. Care should also be taken to ensure whatever materials you use would be safe in the high temperatures of the engine bay. The pipes are running through corrugated tubing which protect it from damage, mud and heat (to some extent). I will make an end to end installation video in the near future, which should clarify any questions. 😊👍

@StormShadow008 3 жыл бұрын

@@4xAdventures thanks for the reply! I'm very interested in this installation but the freezing questions come to mind as I'm in BC, Canada and although we don't get freezing temps all the time it does get quite cold into the rockies and the further north we head. Can't wait for the detailed installation video. Keep up the great work!

@JaiPandit1989 3 жыл бұрын

I understood that, we mix the hot and cold water using the valve, but the valve is at 1 end, and shower at the other, how to control temp while showing? Or before you start shower you come and adjust the temp every time?

@4xAdventures 3 жыл бұрын

Great question. It’s a pre-set fixed temperature. So you find a good comfortable temperature for your shower, and once it’s set, there’s no more adjusting hot & cold required. You get whatever temperature you have chosen out the other end. 😊👍