Let’s be honest: Kenny was the true hero of the Bee Movie.

This is cool and all but let’s not forget Ken’s girl left him for a bloody bee ! (And ruined yogurt night)

I guess you could say this is "Criminally" underated.

I really feel bad for Ken, he has a reason to hate bee’s HES DAMN ALLERGIC.

I love how utterly insane this channel is. Like literally, it seems to take place in a mental ward of some kind, this is a very unique channel! Excited to see more!

Y'know, I always wondered why I felt so bad for Edgar. I never realized how so many times media like this lured us into morality solely centered on the protagonists. It's a little unnerving to imagine what all you could justify to yourself so long as you feel that you're in the right.

I mean, for the storks one? He did ABUSE the smaller birds for his amusement DAILY. So, he KINDA deserved it despite him trying to do what he though was good

Oh god, pls don't tell me the reason of his trauma is Chicken Little

Yes!! The fabrication machine from 9 is such a underrated villain! I remember the online promotional material of the scientist describing its descent into overtaxed cyber insanity after it was forcibly taken by its creator. Even after the destruction of everything its desire to be a complete being is compelling and from given your insight I realize its demise at 9’s hands is honestly a mercy.

Layton T Montgomery also deserved better, the film treats him as a villain but he is just doing his job and was right in the end since Barry sueing the human race was a very bad thing.

Opinions on old animated media AND channel lore. Heck yeah.

Remember though that Edger not only tied the cats in a bag AND locked them in a truck, but a trunk isn't something you should put animals in at all. They would clearly suffocate or die of hunger while they were being shipped. That was the point that made me lose sympathy for him.

Really, I think the only thing that marks Mrs Tweedy as a straight up villain is a sense that she seem to enjoy killing the chickens. That smile she gives to the chicken she's about to decapitate is genuinely creepy and hints at a level of sadism. If it weren't for that aspect, I'd agree wholeheartedly, though.

I figured it out! I figured out why you’re so much fun to watch! It’s joy! *You take so much joy* in this! It’s so blatantly evident in your voice how much joy you take from this!

Here's an Idea: "Animated villains that deserved worst". A list of animated villains that deserve much more severe punishment or endings than what they ultimately got. My picks are Mina Loveberry, The Diamond Authority, Moon Butterfly, Catra, Shadow Weaver, Hordak, General Ironwood, etc. What are your picks?

Dude when you said “not all cheaters are bad people” I was about to lose it. Lol I’m glad you changed your words.

The doctor guy sounds like he's about to tell me that he has yet to see one that can outsmart boolet.

The map towards the end has nine "levels." Wonder if that means something, perhaps... Who knows...

when i saw the thumbnail , the first thing that came to my head is "According to all known laws of aviation, there is no way that a bee should be able to fly. Its wings are too small to get its fat little body off the ground. The bee, of course, flies anyway. Because bees don’t care what humans think is impossible....."

Ken is voiced by Patrick Warburton, meaning he is automatically incapable of doing wrong

Did Did you just give me a new perspective on both Chicken Run and my FAVOURITE MOVIE 9?!?

I didn't really think about the movie 9 that way. I mean I guess by the end when the souls are freed it causes rain which will give new life to the world. It's a happy ending, just not for the machine. :(

Bee movie is also innacurate in the sense that bees care that much about their honey, because if they don't like the beekeeper they can literally _leave._ yep. Just waltz away. And notice how most bees _don't_ do that.

A thing about the machine that I don't think is talked about enough is how it reacted to its creator being taken away from it. there is a scene where soldiers drag the scientist away from the machine. How does the machine react? It attempts to grab the scientist to prevent him from being dragged away. The machine always seemed more confused to me. It didn't understand the world. Its creator was taken away from it at the moment of its birth and it was forced to build machines of war for the ones that had done so. The true antagonist to me was always the Chancellor. He was the one who took the scientist away from the machine. He was the one who made the machine build weapons and because of his actions the machine eventually turned against humanity. The chancellor was ultimately the one who made everyone suffer for his own ends.

I love that turtle character he is awesome.

Guess gonna throw in my input, or rather I'd say my opinion is probably more accurate. 1. Generally agree with you, I do think saying that "All cheaters are bad people" is a bit extreme, but it's clear in this scenario that her cheating in this scenario doesn't really have much if any redeeming qualities. 2. I think you over interpreted it into her favor here. The chicken farm wasn't nearing bankruptcy it was just becoming less profitable, she mainly invest in the chicken pie route cause it's a form of quick cash in a period where she sees the egg production slowing down. This is evident by the fact she doesn't actually take any steps to make the chicken pie business model sustainable, burning through majority of her existing stock in a short period of time and most likely forced to import more birds after the fact. Additionally the chickens didn't try to boil her or blow up her house, rather it's a coincidental happen stance caused by her own zealous-ness to kill a chicken. Certainly they are in some financial trouble now that they had invested in a pie making machine that blew up (regardless of that being a loan or not) but also the house and all of their chickens leaving. Overall I'd say you are giving her an overly positive spin for what she did, though I'll admit that from her perspective she definitely couldn't have predicted the consequence of her actions and plans. 3. In this case I think you are playing up his position as more rightful than it's fair, especially since ultimately his mistake was simply not understanding what leaving an inheritance to a pet means, he'd effectively inherit the wealth himself just with an obligation to take care of the cats which even if given luxury treatment would not eat at the fortune nor his time, hell he could even hire another butler to do that work for him if he really can't be bothered to care for the cats. I'll say it is unclear exactly what his ultimate plan was with the cats at the start since those dogs wrecked his motorcycle/scooter/whatever. As for if he's dead, I think you exaggerated his injuries, though likely he is unconscious, but unlike the cats when he gets to it he'll be able to call for help and be freed (though exactly what his fate after that would be is unclear, hard to see him returning back to the mansion now that the cats hate him for his attempts). Ultimately the point is that his questionable actions were ultimately done not even out of any real gain but out of either petty dislike of the situation or simply ignorance of the arrangement with the will. I'd also add it's pretty rare for a butler to get the inheritance of the person they are a butler to, so caring for some cats a while is a pretty nice gig. 4. Haven't watched the movie Storks so no comment here, cannot say if I agree or disagree. 5. Again, haven't watched the movie so my commentary is limited but I feel like the argument here differs heavily from the other two because ultimately what it ended up getting in the movie was the right option, at least from your description, cause it was stuck in a lose-lose situation. Sure, it deserved better in the sense that it's unfair for it to be in a lose-lose situation but within the time limit of the movie it doesn't seem to be in the right, if it's in a lose-lose situation and one of those option is at least a win for someone rather than a lose for everyone that's the arguably best path. Though again I haven't watched the movie so maybe my interpretation from your description doesn't fully line up with the actual text of the movie. By the way this isn't meant to be a take down or anything, I liked this video and really enjoyed it, I just like to also do some deep dive analysis stuff and this prompted me to want to respond to it. Also I like the characters and the persona you've set up, quite enjoyable, looking forward to more videos.

YES! i just watched billy & mandy video yesterday, thinking "this is probably the last video ill watch from this channel for months" because you upload hardly ever what a timing! (for clarification: i was watching all the videos and the last one i didnt watch was billy & mandy video)

Its the voice, I can listen to this guy for days on end.

Mixing these usual kind of videos with lore and animatics? Pog moment

Hell, Mandark was emotionally abused by his parents by them denying his love for science. Sure, he claims to be an evil scientist, but then again he probably associated science with evil since his parents tried to forbid him from pursuing it. Part of me feels bad for him but then again he wants to gain more power later on in life, yet at the same time he wouldn't have to if his parents gave him love the way he wanted them to.

If you ever decide to do a sequel to this well-written video, I have a suggestion for you. Tai Lung from "Kung Fu Panda." Tai Lung has been Master Shifu’s protégé since he was a cub. Shifu raised him first as an adoptive son, and then trained him as his kung fu student. In return, Tai Lung worked hard to make Shifu proud, especially after Shifu told him that he was destined for greatness, which only inspired him to work harder for the one who believed in him from the very beginning. (His name literally means "Great Dragon" -- it's not like he gave it to himself) So it would be completely understandable that he would become confused and angry when he learns that Master Oogway denied him the Dragon Scroll and the title of Dragon Warrior. True, he threw an epic temper tantrum and hurt his adoptive father, but imagine decades of not only hard work and training your butt off, but also pushing yourself to be continuously motivated to train yourself as hard as you can because your teacher believed in you, only to be told “No, you don’t deserve to be recognized for your efforts.” And Shifu's back-handed apology years down the road doesn't absolve him of what he did or start the journey of repairing their relationship -- it just shifts the blame to Tai Lung. Now, one could argue that he deserved to be imprisoned for what he did to the village, and that Po was destined for the title the entire time, but put yourself in his shoes. What if your martial arts instructor denied you the highest degree of black belt in spite of all your time and energy invested into earning it, all for the sake of fulfilling a prophecy? Wouldn’t you be confused and frustrated as well? And it’s not like Tai Lung’s evil. He may have had “darkness in him,” but darkness isn’t born in a vacuum - it has to be cultivated somehow. In this case, by those who trained him. And when he redirects his anger, at most, he destroys private property and disables his opponents. He doesn’t kill anybody. And don’t say that he does, either - like horror movies, if it doesn’t happen on screen, then it doesn’t count. Why not let him have the scroll that he obviously worked for years to earn and continue training and refining him from there? True, Oogway owns the scroll and can give it to whoever he wants, but he also had the power to act and therefore had a moral responsibility to equip Tai Lung with the mental tools necessary to deal with rejection so that he doesn’t resort to lashing out. He could’ve taught him humility and self-reflection. He could’ve easily taken Tai Lung aside and gave him a chance to show that he’s capable of being the Dragon Warrior if he matured as an individual, thus giving him time to grow to not only become worthy of the title, but also to understand that it’s not the be-all, end-all of kung fu mastery, something which the sequels clearly demonstrate. Instead, Tai Lung gets imprisoned for decades, disowned by his own adoptive father, and ultimately banished to the spirit realm by a cocky panda who was trained for merely a fraction of the time that he was trained. Overall, he’s treated as somebody who doesn’t deserve a journey of redemption for being raised the way he is, but should just be locked away and forgotten about, whatever form his prison takes.

I'm going to say it because nobody has (probably). You sound like a narrator, an epic narrator, you sound like the person from The Stanley parable! You should narrate a short story. You'd be good at it.

Wait how does the animal/human dichotomy work in a world with humanoid animals.

I love the background lore, even though I have no idea what the lore is, strikes me as something that would have had a "askblog" back in the day. Really love the analysises too. Shame they can't be longer, but then again, these cases are pretty cut and dry in the end, it's not like Avatar, where I've seen people actually refer to the fact there are sequels "in the works" in order to justify the actions of characters. EDIT: The movies with cat people, not the animated series

I love the shift from a purple bat on a black background to this world with lore, and and other things happening in the world around him

Chicken Little next, got it. This... is gonna be interesting...

The machine from 9 is doubtless a very interesting character, and I had no problems with this video or your commentary on the machine, it was great. I just feel like pointing out that technically, even by your commentary, the machine doesn’t fit the bill for a villain who “deserved better”. Per the nature of artificial intelligence, it’s not an agent of itself, its existence and actions are the result of the hubris and sins of its creators. It was an active and destructive manifestation of humanity’s downfall. No matter how you spin it, it had to be destroyed, or else nothing would better. And you said so yourself, had it gained a whole human soul, it would have to live with the conscious knowledge that it was the instrument that caused the end of everything. I guess if you really want to read into it, the best possible outcome it “deserved” would have been never existing in the first place.

extrinsic motivation has actually been shown in a lot of studies to reduce the effectiveness of human task-completion. it delegitimizes the pleasure of doin the task for _yourself_ #PunishmentsAndRewards

The issue with Mrs. Tweedy is she never buys any new roosters, the General is clearly out of his breeding phase, so she is making pies out of them but isn't properly planning out a business, she's acting like she's going to become a brand name, but she's clearly plotting to kill off the entire flock, which would only make enough pies to stock a local grocery once. That's her whole thing, she hates chickens and has only been tolerating them because they were profitable, but she never actually researched the business or put in the effort to make her farm profitable, she's been self sabotaging from the start, knowing each chicken only had so many eggs left in them she's been waiting them out. As for Edgar, he's an idiot, she left the money to the cats but who is going to represent the cats? Edgar had served him for years, he was the only person she had left in her life, all she did was try and insure the cats would be cared for, by putting it all in the cats name she was basically saying "just take care of them and it's yours" she probably thought she was being paranoid when she did it because "of course Edgar will care for them", but that idiot just lost it and played himself.

i cannot believe how high quality this is

HE IS ALIVE!

I like to think that if the Machine from 9 won, it would have created a world similar to Robots. It can create automatons from scraps, whose to say it won't create new life with it's new personality/soul. The earliest creations were built with a purpose (war machines/doll hunters) but with it's new mind, it could create machines that can seek their own purpose. As it fades away, the machines it created will tear apart the broken world inhospitable to life and repurpose it's materials to create a world that can sustain its own life, the Machine Life. The first machines create more complex machines and in turn they create more machines. A planet of inventors.

I do object to the 3rd one, mostly because he was going to keep his job, and likely live in the estate still. He wasn't going to lose anything, and in fact, would have likely been the executor of the estate after her passing. Yes, he'd still have to make sure the cats are cared for, but in no way is that a difficult task from what we saw...I mean in the beginning of the film, by the end it has become so, but that's a different mess entirely. Not saying, however, that he got the proper punishment, but he was going to lose nothing, and likely gain a lot(I don't see anyone objecting to him moving into the big bedroom, spending money on more caretakers for the cats directly, etc).

I’ve recently started rewatching Batman: TAS, and it reminded me of this video. Lots of the characters aren’t all that evil, but turned to a life a crime because of outside forces. Mr Freeze: just wanted to save his wife, but was forced to never feel heat or emotions ever again. Two-face: wanted to make Gotham a better place, but after thinking he sent someone to the hospital he swore off anger, and developed an evil side that merged with him after a chemical blast. Harley Quinn: wanted to help those at Arkham, but after being tricked by the Joker she turned into someone who only cares about someone who abuses her. Clay face: just wanted to be an actor, but after suffering facial damage took a cream to fix his face, but had him work for a criminal. When said criminal didn’t need him, he was turned into a monster. Poison Ivy: cares about plants more than people, and while she does go overboard with what she does it’s only to stop people from committing crimes against nature. Penguin: just wants to live a high class life. In the show he gets out of prison and is reformed, but after he is tricked to be the butt of a rich persons joke he loses it. He was truly reformed too since he wasn’t willing to commit any crimes until he found out the truth. Scarface’s ventriloquist: is bullied by his second and dominant personality. At one point Bruce Wayne helps him get his life back, but is manipulated to have Scarface come back. Riddler: just wanted payment for making a profitable board game, but is fired by the company. There are others who suffered similar fates, but they are less well known. In the episode Trial, it’s even mentioned that they ruined their own lives somewhere along the way, and the episode was right. Most of Batman’s rogues gallery had the option to live a good life, but forces beyond their control, and the cruelty of others forced them into said lives.

I like the pieces of lore we get for each video that comes out. I can’t wait for the next one!

Idk why but the way he said Berry B. Benson gave me life force

I think Gladys from Over the Hedge fits here, you can see her descent from wanting the animals not hurt and the people free from disease and garbage to wanting to kill them. But that only happened because the main character threw the first stone: they messed her garbage, stole her food, destroyed her house and car, and apparently she's as bad as the bear that kept terrorizing RJ because of his food.

10:40 I feel the same about AUTO from _Wall-E._ I've seen a lot of fan theories and especulation about why AUTO was correct or at least justified in its attempts to stop the protocol to go back to Earth ("a single plant isn't evidence enough of an habitable planet", "the humans wouldn't survive in Earth's gravity, let alone be able to do any agriculture", etc.) But how I see it its a lot simpler than that: AUTO was trying to stop the protagonist from going back to Earth because *its programing said so,* AUTO is a machine made to follow the orders given to it by its makers, not to assist the captain, not to pursue was best for humanity, just to follow the directive of keeping the passagers alive, run ads for Buy'N'Large and never go back to Earth. The short-sightness and lack of faith of the long-dead authorities that developtmed the Axiom spaceships was the real villain of the story and was ironically defeated by their own defeatist philosophy

Interesting how some movies can designate a villain or antagonists where they could try doing something different with the characters.

Each of these could have made a separate video, you are brilliant

14:04 Lady : screams Auto generated subtitles: ah yes, this is most certainly *music*

Your avatar matches your voice perfectly, you really do sound like a mischievous sidekick to an animated villain.

This is a very interesting video to watch for me, considering I've only ever seen chicken run (and that was only one time about 18 years ago or something) I, _too,_ don't watch films haha (though i didn't watch the segment done on 9 because I do want to watch that at some point) Very interesting

The 9 thing is not completely true. I recommend looking into it more bc it has a lot more lore that’s super interesting and it would be a great topic to cover

The AI of the machine is actually the a copy of the mind of its creator and the dolls contain fragments of creators soul/personality aspects. The machine’s victory would mean the creator becoming complete again, and realizing the devastation he has wrought and that dolls created as a counter measure to stop the machine failed their misson.

These episodes are so much fun to watch and I’m always left with head scratching thoughts as I have to rethink my childhood movies! I love the overall story that you’re doing with this and your character as well! I really can’t wait to see what else you’ll end up producing here.

12:28 the machine seems like a similar fate as "the end of all but me" SCP-682, on a dead planet until they just stop moving, ether from death or they have given up

7:27 "Well, an animal's life is just isn't the same intrinsic value as humans" Aren't you all animals!?

Mrs Tweedys comupences(or punishments or whatever you wanna call em) seriously should’ve physically scarred her, she quite literally gets deep fried in the second film that sounds like the origin story of a slasher villain!

These animations are so good, not to even mention the charming voice!

Dude honestly Ken was the single most grounded character in Bee Movie

Even as a kid, I always thought that all these "villains" weren't that bad; they just made bad decisions and were unreasonably punished for it.

These animation analyses have made me question everything i watched as a kid. Thank you genuinely for this ^^

*Freeze!* 14:06 Is that a map of the facility I spy? Why is it underground?

I found you by random and I can say that I relate to this mascot you provided so much harder than expected! Also the dark vibes and macabre littered through all the vids I've binged only add to the amazing atmosphere you've created! I sit eagerly awaiting more and you've got a subscriber for life at this rate!

I absolutely love the characters! This is my new favorite way to review movies.

I was ironically proud and felt a surge of nostalgia and happiness when I saw the word, '9.' - The machine had free will, he had the mind of a child, he may have the intelligence beyond anyone. Yet he’s still a child. If you brought a child say, a Lego set, then they can choice whether or not to build the Lego set. But the Corrupted leader forced it to make the Lego set. The child would be mad, and confused. - Say you made a living gun, but it’s merely Alive, no sentience. It just follows orders, instructed to capture the stitchwarths (9 and his gangs’ race name.) To the viewers they’re terrifying, to it, there just workers, employees!

Oh yeah, it's him. The one we have been waiting for.

I hope to see more videos in the future. :)

I love that little monkey girl. She's so precious.

how I sort of interpret of some of these villains through a different perspective Kenny: the true hero of the story who got screwed over thanks to a bee with the voice of Seinfeld Mrs. Tweedy: a farmer who's on the brink of bankruptcy who's contempt to finding a new way to make business who's stuck with a husband who's an ambition-less who believes chickens are plotting against humanity Edgar: a butler and the only companion for a person who then decides to place her money and fortune on her cats then him as well ignoring you as a human Hunter: a decision maker who doesn't give up but rather goes to uncharted territory to form a new business model as well create a new economy for his brethren to thrive and possibly giving them a million jobs The Machine: an entity who's confused about it's existence akin to Frankenstein's monster

The Machine and A.M. (I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream) are one of my favorite kinds of AI/robot/non-human characters in media. I always feel so bad for them and just wanna hug them, despite the horrific gore pile I'd inevitably be in XD

Kenny lost his GF to a bee that he's allergic to

1:00 Note to self: The Turtle's name is Edgar.

The way I see the machine is this: it exists as a recreation of its creators intellect, and so the only person it has ever known is partly itself. Then one day, a bunch of humans come in and assault its only friend (who you could even consider it's parent) and ceil it inside a giant body and force it to work. The only conception of what a human, other than the scientist, is like is from a ton of assholes and the people cheering them on. Pair that with the calculating personality and of course he would kill everyone. On the subject of the soul snatching, it lost its only friend, then it finds out that the last remnants of the creator's personality are just wondering around, taking those remnants back would definitely be an understandable option.

This dude is so underrated, His accent is amazing

11:23 oh no! What have you done!! You called Frankenstein's monster by the wrong name! Society will collapse into dust, we are doomed

genuinely blown away by the production quality and creativity of your videos and channel. can't wait to see what else you got!

I love this guy, best thing in the world is a person that reviews movies, and talks like he's talking to a friend

I personally believe that once the machine, known canonically as BRAIN, was to absorb the dolls, he would likely have many paths ahead of itself afterward. First is the guilt ridden demise, which kinda ends there. But the second is more interesting, as the machine could pursue humanity's dreams of what they think progress is in their stead after coming to terms with what it has done, fueled by the organic urge for survival and progress, such as reaching across the stars. Heck, the machine could even make its goal to restart life upon the planet, whether machine or organic. There is no real way to know.

each episode just gets better and better. I can't wait for your next video and please keep it up with the characters the whole thing is so charming

I'm gonna be frank, "but human life is precious" is a terrible excuse for someone actively trying to suffocate an animal especially a animal as well cherished as a cat. Suffocation is slow, painful, and sadistic, no amount of "but muh human life" is gonna change that. Their are rescue dogs in this world more worthy of the lives they lead then some humans in this world, period.

The guy who voices Edgar really makes me think of the Heavy from Team Fortress 2.

Man fuck that section about 9 and the AI becoming more Human really make me have to rethink the whole movie. I never even noticed how it seems to actually gain emotions like after it sucked up 8 and literally raised it's arms up in joy over the sensation, standing back and basking in the feeling. What a criminally underrated channel.

I love your guys' work please keep making more animation. And video commentaries I really would like to see your review on the number of movies. And also I love this philosophical commentary and breaking down movies from my own childhood. and actually explaining it as just the facts of life I love this kind of stuff. And also an animated beginning sign me up you have a subscriber for Life continue making more content.

... welp I guess chicken little is up next

i would love to see a sequel to this, may be a video game version or shows

Love the analyses, but I also love your characters. The strong but kind Russian alligator, the caring and cute monkey, and the elegant and intelligent donkey. They make an amazing trio

Yes, I’ve been waiting for more uploads. LETS GO

He hath blessed us with his return, long live the strange armadillo boi

I never thought of the machine from 9 as trying to piece back together its humanity

4:11 Lenore art? You are indeed a cultured soul.

Damn, I grew up with Chicken Run. But after watching this "enlightening" video, I have come to the realization that YES.... Mrs. Tweedy IS hawt

I actually always look behind at the past of any villain i see,and what i noticed is that all villains and 'hero' -s all got some good and some bad in them,and have a reason for their doing.. we are just shown the protagonist's story first (and often the so called hero) to give us an emotional bond to them,cheering them on in their good and agreeing with any bad decisions like murdering people. ''murdering people? the protagonist wouldnt do that!'' you might think, but in truth, that one fight between the villain and the protagonist,and that one time the protagonist threw a car backwards just to save a kid from being ran over, that isn't just going to conveniently not kill anyone.. it WILL, i assure you, in some instances, kill one or two innocent people. if you were shown the so called villain's backstory first and shown why they are who they are, you would be cheering for THEM to kill that 'hero'. and i know im not good at explaining,but you do understand my point.

2:55 "...by cheating on him..." Oh that's bad "...with an insect." *spits out drink*

There is a huge back story with the movie 9 where the machine did have a form of intelligence and that the general in the movie forced the scientists to make the machine into a weapon and then at some point possibly threatened the scientists life which the machine took personally

Nice hes back! I can only watch you're other vids so many times:D

1. Actually Mrs tweedy still counts because A. she’s a monster as shown by how she treats her husband let alone how she views animals and people B. The motivation for the chicken pies was not the chickens not producing eggs but that they weren’t turning a profit that would make mrs tweedy rich, at no point do they show that the chickens are not producing enough eggs for them to live and or make their lifestyle, only that mrs tweedy is not happy with the profit they’re bringing in at the moment which again goes to show her C. greed. 3. Edgar actually is included in the will, He actually was to be given funds and be the facilitator of the cats, madame even mentions that he left before reading it and the lawyer states “minus one butler” Edgar’s greed is his undoing 4. Hunter wasn’t entirely evil but in his desire to destroy the baby making machine he actually threatens the lives of the babies and the storks in the factory. 5. And the fabrication machine while not evil intentionally was corrupted by the Chancellor and the humans but still ended up destroying the planet, hunting down any survivors and forcibly stealing the pieces of the steam punk dolls souls for its own power. The machine actually is a tragic villain, an innocent corrupted by power and war mongering’but the point is that that is what it became...a war machine whose only interested in making machines and or devices of destruction. It’s even stated by the scientists recording that the machine is flawed because it is built solely of intellect not the soul and ability to know right from wrong again the machine is not interested in bringing life back to the planet which the team punk dolls are and do at the end with using their soul to create microbes to bring life back. The steampunks represent the blend of humanity and technology that keeps the world balanced while the machine represents technology without soul to hold it back from evil

I'll add one more. Chef Skinner, from Ratatouille. Jonah Robert Skinner's story begins with his boss and good friend dying. We can know they were friends, because someone like Gusteau wouldn't have just anyone as his second-in-command, it would have to be someone he trusts. After Gusteau's death, Skinner took over the business, but with the famous chef gone, the restaurant was also going under. We know they were having financial troubles, and the food alone wasn't enough - not if the famous chef himself isn't making it. Skinner was forced to find other means of making profit to keep his old friend's legacy alive, turning to selling fast food, trying everything to make things work... And for this, he was demonized. Then some random nobody who's clearly completely talentless shows up and turns out to be Gusteau's son. It wouldn't take a genius to realize that if this idiot takes over the business, it would go bankrupt very quickly for sure. Even if Alfredo Linguini was able to cook some good food, that would make him a good cook. It wouldn't make him a good manager. Despite his best efforts though, Skinner gets kicked out of the restaurant (fired by the new boss), and with that, his last connection to his late friend is taken away. He honestly seemed heartbroken about it. Now of course, Skinner is not without faults, but his biggest sin was trying to get revenge once his pride as a cook was shattered when he realized that he lost everything because of a rat. The once great restaurant, now essentially ran by a rodent. Of course he would feel hurt and betrayed. People tend to say that Skinner is one of the few Pixar villains who technically both won and lost, but I don't think that's true. His intention with the revenge plot was never to get the restaurant shut down, but merely to either get the job back, or make sure someone qualified gets it instead. Imagine how he must have felt when he realized that his hubris caused his friend's restaurant to shut down for good.