The Datograph is my grail watch. Most beautiful Chronograph in existence.

The El Primero is on the list, you must have missed it... It's called a Pre-2000 Daytona ;-)

Imagine timing any sports event with a mechanical watch

@@lesgarten Good point, but am I correct in believing they reduced the beat rate for use in the Daytona?

Didn't know about that?

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Copy that!

So true, it's unmatched

Agreed. Striking Tenths is a real innovation on an outstanding heritage movement.

Leave the Daytona. Take out that stupid Grand Seiko or even the Breitling for the El Primero.

@@tomw485 the El primero and the Daytona are the same watches that's the reason i said what I said. I don't care about the breitling either but at least the Seiko is innovative.

@@coolst0rybruh No the El Primero and Daytona are not at all the same watch. Even when Rolex was sourcing Zenith calibers they were detuning the frequency from 36,000 BPH to 28,000 and making other significant mods. Cases, dials and bracelets were quite different as well. Very distinctly different watches. Plus in the 1980’s and before Rolex used a Valjoux 72 for the Daytona and in the early 2000’s to now they went entirely in house. I mean if you take the current El Primero Chronomaster Original with the new striking 10th movement and the current Daytona they’re as distinctly different as 2 chronographs can be. So their one connection is a heavily modified movement for 10 of 60 years of the Daytona’s existence. You realize the Patek chronograph and the original speedmaster caliber 321 (and now the re-release 321 “Ed White”) used the exact same Lemania base movement. Patek of course dressed it up a bunch with hand finishing swapping of parts, but if you’re going to call the El Primero and Daytona the same watch by that logic you might as well call the Speedmaster Professional and Patek the same watch since they’re connected in nearly the exact same way. No one does that though because sharing a base movement for a fraction of their history does not make 2 watches at all the same thing. No one says the McLaren F1 is the same as a BMW because it used a BMW engine.

My second "luxury" watch was a Navitimer II in 1995 with a 7750. Price... $1,800. Those were the days. I still have that watch.

In borrowing or modifying the Zenith outpost, Rolex single handedly saved Zenith from total disappearing acts! Remember that...Zenith actually owes its current existence to Rolex who bought their mvmnts when the quartz era destroyed them! Go reconfigure!

@@emexokezie7796 why so aggro? Do you own a Daytona ? 😂 For the record, I’m a fan of both brands and watches. But, when Rolex did that, nobody actually wanted to buy their Daytona watches. Zenith got themselves out of the mire by safeguarding the ability to build the El Primero. It’s only in the last 7 years or do that the Daytona has become the darling of the watch industry. So, I’ll politely refuse your request to go reconfigure

@@davidb5720 honestly, to answer that question is quite belittling... I am not here to argue with you about wrist furniture, I'm here to correct your inherent slight of ignorance.

I think you’ll find the slight of ignorance is on your part. I wasn’t arguing with anyone, merely pointing out the fact that one of the most significant chronographs in history was missing from this, fairly pointless to be fair, list. You are merely proving a point why the KZfaq comments section is generally to be avoided

3592.50 is the reference, which was the 25th anniversary released in 1994.

Ref 3572.50 also has hesalite crystal with sapphire display back

He means you can’t buy a new one.

Is that why you can’t get one? Lol say something smart next time

100 percent.

Better is a subjective term

😂😂😂 no

I agree about the Zenith

Zenith is e even better than Rolex best chronographs

It was an exceedingly dumb move considering what he left off.

Just a pity the finishing on the second's hand is shocking.

The Navitimer is really growing on me lately!

@@garyboyle695it is impossible to notice without a 10x loupe

The Type XXI Flyback is very cool. You know Zenith makes an El Primero pilot’s watch with a flyback too.

You medan shocking bad or good?

Graham Hill and Jim Clark both wore Navitimers, and the speedmaster was a staple at F1/sportscar racing from the 50s-70s… so you could say they have it covered. 😊

Lange

A very untrue statement...Rolex easily could have used an other secondary movt...stop hating!

@@emexokezie7796He’s not hating for wanting Zenith on the list. It’s incredibly silly to leave it off frankly. But to say that the Daytona wouldn’t exist without Zenith is false though. Prior to Zenith the Daytona had a Valjoux 72 movement. But Zenith made their first automatic chronos. And there’s a reason Rolex chose Zenith as their movement supplier. They made the best automatic chronograph movements period.

Honestly, all of these are superb.

Yeah they screwed the pooch leaving out the El Primero. I question if there’s some agenda here especially adding in the Grand Seiko Chronograph. That’s absurd.

What unreliability? I’ve had one for 2 years with no issues.