That's a good idea :)

If you need a microscope to find the difference in watches get the fake and save money

Absolutely!!! But normally you can use your eyes from 10 feet.

@@superpinbang694 that’s if you are just buying for fake ego or acting like you have money! There are perfectly good functioning watches for less then $30us, just buy that if it’s just for function. Or get a smart watch still cheaper than a Rolex with more functions. The Watches here are an investment and appreciation of craftsmanship! With a knock-off, you are paying literally for the name and not the actual craftsmanship and function that made the name!

It would be shame for the real one if the fake can immitate above 80%

I have done jobs on satellite transmitter parts with .002" wire (human hair is .003"). Basically, to go in and chase openings in parts that were originally cut with .006" wire to reduce the corner radii. You have no idea what a complete PITA it is to work with.

😅😅

@@ffedurch sounds expensive, I’m only running .25mm wire these days as my machines are now 30 years old.

incredible price point? is $10K for a spring drive with a nice dial worth it? you can get other luxury watches with actual complications for that price point no?

@@jaydunna2645 you don't like spring drive and the innovation GS brings to the table so I don't think I can explain it to you :) sorry

what is the innovation?@@tunguyentruonganh7428

@@jaydunna2645Grand Seiko Spring Drive makes Swiss watches look basic and aged in comparison. If you’re not such a sheep that the “Swiss” branding turns you into a zombie, then it’s very easy to appreciate the value.

@@Boodoo4You the irony of a Grand Seiko fan calling someone a sheep 😶. My favourite watches are German, but that's cool, i understand why you would want a spring drive with 0 complications for upwards of 5k.

Where can i find this microscope

We use their sensors and i must say they are very advance in that field.

@@sultanbino when you cough up 70k

Seriously...my mind is blown

haha yea!

GS did well.

GS is a *real* masterwork. It's only looked down on by snobs because it has electronics in it. Rolex on the other hand makes a million watches a year.. almost as many as the Casio G-Shock in its heyday.

It’s truly incredible how perfect the GS is and it’s Handmade! definitely my Holy Grail of watches truly amazing

@@stickyfox do GS automatics really have electronics in them?

@@andreashabeck1155 I can't afford one so I'll admit I don't know if this describes the *whole* product line, but the humbly named Spring Drive uses a quartz-calibrated "magnetic brake" on a caliber that runs faster than normal by design. The extra energy of the balance wheel is turned into electricity and burned in just the right amount to keep the watch accurate. I can get why a "purist" might consider this cheating in a sense. I have heard it compared to a "cheap quartz watch," and maybe that's why they don't use the Q-word too loudly. But IMO it is *the* most advanced and artistic timepiece. Rolex IMO showcases aesthetic traits like laser engraving and superlative finishing/polishing, but inside it's still largely the same watch they made in the 50s. Seiko were not content to stop there. Again, I have more human concerns vying for my money so this is just my perspective as an engineer and builder of (much larger) machines. If I was flush with money and wanted to make a statement, I feel like the GS better exemplifies the spirit of innovation and technical restlessness that moves us forward, and the Rolex is like any other watch. But the Milgauss is also a beautiful piece of engineering for all the same reasons, don't get me wrong.

I haven't had a watch for over a decade, since my phone tells the date and time. I don't miss the watch tan 😄 sometimes it just feels cooler wearing a watch. Like wearing a suit or nice shoes. It gives you a boost in confidence.

My Tag Heuer for less than the half doesn't look less good.

@@danielhopkins2277 Except your tag heuer uses a basic quartz movement while pretending to be a luxury swiss watch when it just isn't.

@@NJ0711 1. My Tag is an automatic 2 we talking only partly about the movement 3. Still not much less luxury than Grand Seiko, especially for people who aren't into watches

@@danielhopkins2277 1. Don't care 2. Don't care 3. Don't care Tag Heuer doesn't come close to Grand Seiko in terms of finishing, movement and accuracy.

haha probably

its not underrated what are you saying ? people buy them, people love them. not as much as rolex obviously, cuz rolex is better in many regards.

@@sergezerkin better as in what, precisely?

It's not underrated at all on the internet. The internet is littered with GS fanboys.

@@MS-pd2yo I think Rolex is better in keeping value over the years.

Thanks for your kind comment!

Those watches were beautiful peices though. He's right you could stare at that Lange movement for days.

Luxury goods is about brand recognition, and they are mostly bought by people who want to flaunt their wealth. Details like this don't concern them unless it makes them look less "prestigious".

​@@sepg5084 in part maybe. But not the majority. In everyday life virtually nobody notices your watch so it's rather useless to "flaunt one's wealth". In certain circles, like the local country club, golf club, yacht club, etc., maybe.

sorry, the only lovely thing here, it's the microscope

yea, welcome to the channel!

Man anything with a premium price is over priced. Same goes for Grand Seiko. Just look at how many 100 if not 1000's % value increase they give this crap.

I also feel Rolexes are overrated but...... what do I know right?

A Rolex is a Rolex though

I’ll take a The legendary Rolex

Then why don't you marry it.

@@youtubecensors5419 most funniest watch enthusiast

$70k US!

@@paintballplayer700 yeah, painful

Yessir....best made watch for your money period. Just doesn't carry the brand hype...like the Swiss conglomerate

I think they should have taken more 200X shots on the hands and indexes of the Lange.. It feels like they scrutinized the Rolex and GS more

You may and we'll make them for sure!

But first a haircut for Pierre. Man buns are…..😖

What annoys me is that they took the worst brand of Switzerland They should have taken a Patek Phillipe, a Audemars Piguet, H. Moser & Co or Jacob & Co or any other better brand than Rolex Rolex used to do good things, but they don't anymore

@@syxalite We took the brands people suggested. We had my AP in the first Microscope video we did and will introduce more on the future so stay tuned.

Kind of you, 😊

Lange is 20x the price. Do you think the finishing was 20x better than GS?

@@arashmalekzadeh1 frankly, yes I do. I believe that there should not be a lot of rationality behind your watch purchases. The heart wants what it wants

But they never zoomed 200x on the Lange dial... The GS finishing was incredible

They advertise watches made by robots. A watch made by men always has imperfections. They have a very stupid vision of watchmaking.

Excellent point! Love to see vintage under the scope...repeat seiko, rolex & lange...see then and now @Swiss Watch Gang

Yea, good idea!

Vintage watches will be worse, why would you believe they wouldn't? manufacturing process were not as refined 30 years ago.

Vintage watches have up to 50 years of wear-n-tear that will be pronounced under high magnification. Manufacturing processes have evolved over time. You don't really own a watch for time reading purposes, you own a mechanical watch because it's a work of art.

Great idea, please do that! Love to see proper watches up close! :)))

So perfect it looked like CGI lol

That's not surprising - the Lange is a German watch.

Awesome!!

How much it cost u?

@Just do itYup. And the watch featured in the video (SBGA407) is the latest addition to my collection.

@@zhuzhu9599 I don't know which he got, but between $2000 to $10,000.

supreme is a skate brand lol they don’t make clothes for quality they make them for style

@@dylan7657 thats the point lol

@@Immortal_BP what do you mean the rolex was preowned

Is it correct: You compare new watches with pre-owned watches? Would be unfair.

Uh yeah, different price points and different purposes. Would I use ALS as a daily driver? No. Rolex? Absolutely

Excellent, thank you. Subscribed 👍🏻

@@stevefox8605 very appreciated !

@@stevefox8605 They advertise watches made by robots. A watch made by men always has imperfections. They have a very stupid vision of watchmaking.

@O BOZ They advertise watches made by robots. A watch made by men always has imperfections. They have a very stupid vision of watchmaking.

Would be interesting to see how affordable watches like orient or lower price Seiko compare to this luxury watches in term of finishing and to see if this amount of money is worth it

Nah, original video was 1hr40min long so we took a lot out on all ends. You can see imperfections on the Lange as well.

16:49

I just seen that Seiko rules in time keeping.

Why don’t you? Fool.

@@SwissWatchGang and you let over 2 min about the hair 🙄

Thanks Herman, means a lot!

Agreed

Thanks! Will do :D

Won't hold value like a Rolex

Obviously the reason isnt value... not everybody buys for investment.

@@psychoticbreaks167justletm4 doesn't make sense to flush money down the toilet. If you buy smart you can have best of both worlds.

@@bdegrds Buying a watch as an investment, especially a STEEL watch, is the dumbest thing ever. And a Grand Seiko is cheaper then a Rolex, but also far superior visually and mechanically. So flushing down money the toilet, is buying a Rolex because it’s a Rolex, instead of something you truly enjoy.

haha

Would be awesome to get a PD under the microscope, I have a friend with one, but hard to travel now due to covid...

I see it as keeping the higher price brands in check. Would I expect perfection on a 10k watch? No. Would I expect it on a 200k watch? Yes.

Same here. I do watch repair. So much of the things people go crazy over annoy the crap out of me. And all by people who don't see a watch at the level you and I do. Gets annoying.

Rolex upcharges their watches by absurd amounts. With their billions of dollars surely they can afford many such microscopes for quality assurance department.

yes, it's a good balance.

Thank you, glad you liked it and Part 3 is definitely coming!

I highly recommend. I get some of the most sincere compliments on my GS/seikos, and I have gifted seiko 5 divers to many friends to get their collections started

Definitely a nice watch!

@@rajgill7576 I believe that!

@@rajgill7576. Unfortunately you will never be able to sell a Seiko for more or even the same price you payed for, unlike Rolex that will increase in price . Also, I believe that if if you’d displayed 100 watches of both brands on a table, giving to anyone passing by the watch of hi choice, the first Seiko will go after the last Rolex is picked.

@@RealEstateBaby not at all, I just like what’s original, esthetic and classy

haha nice! :D

I would always prefer the Rolex, because it's cooler and doesn't cost anything. But the movement of the german watch is pure porn. I would like to have it in an glass body to see every detail.

Noted! Thanks for watching M. :D

2nd that

Thank you!

Thanks!

Holy trinity is just a name. Every review says that Lange is the most superb quality brand in watch industry. Also HT has not come with any breaking complication in years. It's overhyped myth.

@@arturgarncarz3631 wrong.

@@BobbyDazzler888 prove

@@arturgarncarz3631 Depends on what you include in the category of "brand". If you include Philippe Dufour, Greubel Forsey, H. Moser, Laurent Ferrier, FP Journe... Then Lange starts getting some competition.

@@benbowland yes, noone can reach the level of finishing of philippe dufour watches

anything under that magnification can happen.

Thanks and I'm glad you liked it!

That's not a microscope. It's a stereoscope!

Well the original video was about 1hr40min so we cut it down. Wouldn't be as nice as it is now believe me . :)

I could watch an entire video on just the ALS under the scope. And I would like to see a lot more of the GS spring drive movement

Well, so so. They had both their flavs but GS for that price is great no doubt.

I wouldn't say better, but considering the Lange costs 20 times as much as the GS, it's remarkable just how close the Grand Seiko got

lol

hehe I for sure found out some new things there while looking at the watches

@@smallturnsBIG They advertise watches made by robots. A watch made by men always has imperfections. They have a very stupid vision of watchmaking.

hehe ye i love it ;)

Thank you!

Agree on the GS and ALS. Regarding the Rolex, he knows and doesn't care about it haha, last video I got from him was him using the bracelet to open a champagne bottle "sabrage style" xD

Oh yea, absolutely!