5 Hidden Mechanics that help BREAK MvC2!!

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Today we're talking Marvel vs Capcom 2!! I've got 5 hidden mechanics to explain to you, glitches, combos, DHC tricks, and alpha counters! These will hopefully be really helpful to you if you're just trying to learn the game. If you want to play in the JMCup make sure to join our Twitch or Patreon!
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@MrMixtape 2 жыл бұрын

Another very strong hidden mechanic is that if you find yourself in a losing situation, you can hit Alt+F4 on fightcade and perform a strategic retreat. I hear it works on other fgs as well, very strong

@ActionJacksonForever 2 жыл бұрын

#PullThePlug

@opiumlover91 2 жыл бұрын

The timing is pretty strict, but you can even link it into uninstall.

@Jovane2707 2 жыл бұрын

Just frame plug 🔌?

@SoulCalvin559 2 жыл бұрын

I heard it has invincibility on frame 1. No Johns

@krushed_DX 2 жыл бұрын

I hear its really effective if you unplug you’re house but theres about a 2 frame delay when doing or a 5 I haven’t really experimented with it much

@MasCo630 2 жыл бұрын

“It’s still a combo, you understand?” “Hellll noo” I died 😂

@fastest1321 8 ай бұрын

Chris Hu and AquaSilk 😂 commentator duo named “team Rush Hour” amazing times in the fgc

@beatrix-persephone 2 жыл бұрын

any time I see magneto do that double snap infinite I can only hear yipes going "OOH! OOH! OOH! OOH!" in my head

@evans7969 2 жыл бұрын

Saw that part of the video before I read the comments and I did the same lmao.

@DoublemanFM 2 жыл бұрын

I'd pay good money to see a video of just cursed combos/cursed synergy. Honestly, any kind of video that contains non-surface level knowledge that only character specialists/veteran players would know would be great. Things like Iceman not taking chip from energy attacks or other non-obvious character traits, character or team-specific setups, etc. Stuff like that would really help new players find a team/gameplan that fits them.

@sorrydudebros 2 жыл бұрын

There are some videos like that but the tech is done with TAS.

@ao_qd 2 жыл бұрын

My gawd, I remember browsing ZachD when I was an early teen trying to watch as much high-level MVC2 as possible before KZfaq existed. It seriously makes me so happy that MVC2 is alive and well.

@ActionJacksonForever 2 жыл бұрын

JM I’m surprised you didn’t mention how when a character comes in you can’t block consecutive hits, great for the Cable super.

@babytextor 2 жыл бұрын

He's touched on guardbreak a ton in his other vids. Especially the "mvc2 greatest rivalry settled" video

@charliej8104 2 жыл бұрын

That’s why u push block

@duo317 2 жыл бұрын

@@charliej8104 pushblock can't save you from guard breaks.

@JayInVA22 2 жыл бұрын

@@charliej8104 Can't push block on your way in, after you block the on coming projectile your guard just breaks and you drop to the ground

@charliej8104 2 жыл бұрын

JayInVA22 which guard break u referring to? For cable, u can push block or take the first hit. That’s the counter. What other guardbreak u talking about

@butterjiggy 2 жыл бұрын

Doesn't Skullgirls also use the same mechanic where the DHC character is rotated to the bottom? (Granted most of the mechanics are based off MVC2)

@jmcrofts 2 жыл бұрын

i had totally forgotten this, but yes you're right it does! Weirdly Skullgirls works more like MvC2 than MvC3 does

@mrsammy7600 2 жыл бұрын

It even hypes it up with a gradual zooming and the opening theme on the background. man what a game.

@YadonTheCat 2 жыл бұрын

The double snap is also replicated

@internetmovieguy 2 жыл бұрын

It’s not weird. It’s what mike wanted.

@CZAR.6 2 жыл бұрын

It also has the same damage un-scaling from DHCs, Skullgirls borrows a lot of mechanics straight from MvC2

@thellamalover4real 2 жыл бұрын

I have not played a lot of fighting games, so I really enjoy these videos that explain mechanics. Sorry for all the people that this is old hat.

@jedisquidward 2 жыл бұрын

I'd really love for you to do a video going over the general metagame and the flow of MvC2. I know how insanely aggressive it is for MvC3, but I know very little about how 2 actually plays flow-wise

@TheWalkman33 2 жыл бұрын

Bro i love these! You and Gconcepts have gotten me to a pretty proficient level, and i love this game now. You guys are doing gods work my friends.

@MJRLHobbyStuff 2 жыл бұрын

Great stuff man, I played MVC2 a lot in the arcades and at home on Dreamcast and I never heard of alpha counter or double snap. NEAT!

@jimpayne9545 2 жыл бұрын

These techniques are so impressive. I haven't played this game in years but it is still fun to watch someone with such mastery over it. Subscribed!

@jjberrii 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for these videos! I've finally started picking up the game because of your content and it's made it way easier to understand what I want to do and why I'm losing.

@josemiguelgarcia3182 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve been binge watching your entire MvC2 content, I used to play this game growing up on the arcades in Mexico and on PlayStation 2, so many goood memories 🥲

@suddenllybah 2 жыл бұрын

... The switch glitch feels more glitchy than the DHC glitch. auto pressing a held button just is more wack than (we forgot you can combo after DHC, so even whiffing the DHC and getting a combo anyway allows you to basically do 2 combos off one hit with no interaction... because we wanted the second super to not be scaled to hell. Like, it's a logical thing to happen once you know the rules that make up it.

@HYLOBRO 2 жыл бұрын

I wish I loved myself as much as Jmcrofts loves Marvel vs Capcom 2

@titations973233 2 жыл бұрын

I’m learning so much about this game now. Thanks for the cool info

@shadooku4427 2 жыл бұрын

Brooooo I love your mvc2 videos , and gaming history things 😂 your a gaming legend 🙌

@zakman6471 2 жыл бұрын

Great sharing is great caring looking after the community. I like the stick buttons on top

@SharpsPanda 2 жыл бұрын

Damn, I haven't heard Chris Hu in forever. I was actually watching that stream live when he said that. XD

@fattycop 2 жыл бұрын

Always appreciate the good content

@slg_scribblz 2 жыл бұрын

oh this is fantastic, I didn't know there were ways to avoid chip and instant round attacks just WOW

@BO55N355 2 жыл бұрын

I don't even play fighting games but these educational videos are bomb

@rbn_5130 2 жыл бұрын

Just wanna let u know: im not really into fighting games besides DBFZ. But its really calming to watch u for some reason. Its like a deaf is a fan of a musican.

@nicjuls7382 2 жыл бұрын

Bro u are absolutely goated for that aquasilk clip lmfaoo. Snackish!! @jmcrofts

@gutsbadguy50 2 жыл бұрын

That chris hu clip is *chefs kiss*

@bananaking5237 2 жыл бұрын

Im hyped for the tourney

@exprominence4268 2 жыл бұрын

Ayyyy the rogue Akuma dhc glitch I see you

@costelinha1867 2 жыл бұрын

I dunno which game is more insane, this or melee.

@beaudickerson1390 2 жыл бұрын

JM once again doing the Lords work

@LegendaryBoneThugs 2 жыл бұрын

keep streaming/making MvC2 videos, this game is still so great!!

@Drovek451 25 күн бұрын

We'll need more of these pretty soon 😅

@fernandopires135 2 жыл бұрын

I did not even knew you could cancel dashes in this game, so yeah, more informative videos are welcome

@billycole852 2 ай бұрын

I play this on my dreamcast after work 3 times a week. I'm just grinding arcade mode but I've learned allot from these videos. I'd get crushed if i played online though.

@Ratel3000 2 жыл бұрын

On alpha counters: You didn't elaborate properly on Cable-b and his alpha counter to AHVB. I've had so many matches I was about to lose where I used this to punish an assist call, an otherwise safe move from the point character, or both. This can win otherwise hopeless matches by killing one or more characters out of nowhere. You can also guard push, and cancel that with an alpha counter. This is very dangerous, especially with Cable B in the back. Guard pushing some close attack making their next one as well as Cable's psimitar miss lets you cancel that with an Air Hyper Viper Beam. Like they say in Seattle, Everyone gets shot.

@ericraupp 2 жыл бұрын

never knew assist properties carried over in the alpha counters!

@megamix5403 2 жыл бұрын

I was wondering how to do the Switch Glitch as you called it. Thanks!

@AlmightStick 2 жыл бұрын

While I dont play fighting games much, outside of Smash in a blue moon; I've really been enjoying this channel. Found you a couple days ago, but its been a blast! Thanks sir! and good luck with your tournament!

@Bubblerlol 2 жыл бұрын

Spectators are awesome!

@GodotWait0 2 жыл бұрын

Ahh the double snap, also known as the OOH OOH OOH OOH OOH OOH OOH OOH

@mrefish289 2 жыл бұрын

Can you give us a guide on throw loops? I've been struggling with Guile's in particular

@LaurensSecretAdmirer 2 жыл бұрын

SUBSCRIBED

@djhero0071 2 жыл бұрын

Hey JM. I was wondering if you could do a video on Dhalsim. I’ve never been interested in playing as him but I heard a few months back that he’s actually a fairly decent character in Marvel 2 and even inspired the maker of hitbox to make that controller. I’m kinda curious as to why he’s a high tier competitive character.

@muaythai242 2 жыл бұрын

Aryc system and capcom needs to colab with this game . I'm sure it would be thrilling .

@tariqmcbroom6375 2 жыл бұрын

Hey jm can you do a video explaining the throw mechanic in the game for example captain commando has two throws hp and hk one does more than other but can a person break hp with hk or hk with hp or is something else also I don't think hulk has any standard throws only command one and it's blockable sad plus many characters have strange things after throws like combo or easy loop setups etc anyways might be something interesting for you to cover and fun

@cosmicbattalion 2 жыл бұрын

I just learned that DBFZ has the switch glitch!!! Now I can properly mix people who think that their point character is the best counter to mine

@babytextor 2 жыл бұрын

Can you lightning attack 3 times in the air and still wiff normals or perform hypers? I was at the arcade and every time I did a lightning attack 3x I couldn't wiff normals or do hypers with storm in the air afterward

@superfurfannyaa1864 2 жыл бұрын

jm being the cutest fgc content creator

@slimballs9650 2 жыл бұрын

10:37 “OOH! OOH! OOH! OOH! OOH! OOH!”

@vongolawingjace2364 2 жыл бұрын

JMcrofts I just beat my new marvel 2 addiction for finals week you can't be kick-starting it again...

@christopherfiore960 2 жыл бұрын

I am a twitch subscriber but have no possible way of participating, *sad. But will be rooting the game play all the way!

@cameronjones3104 2 жыл бұрын

hey man does your discord run 3rd Strike tournaments? Got Fightcade bc of your video and I'm itching to play competitive! Thanks for the vids :D

@BlackKoshinomi 2 жыл бұрын

I knew last one be the classic

@gigaport 2 жыл бұрын

Is there a good discord or wiki for resources to learn more about this game? I've seen tons of youtube videos but it would be nice to have some sort of articles or data tables for quick reference

@jmcrofts 2 жыл бұрын

wiki.supercombo.gg/w/Marvel_vs_Capcom_2

@Mad_Marvel 2 жыл бұрын

Shouts out Chris Hu and AquaSilk.

@Wolfie1262 2 жыл бұрын

Goddamnit, Mixtape. Subscribe to the man already!

@RAY296 19 күн бұрын

This game legit never worked on fightcade for me. Oh well, mvc collection here I come!

@CHICKENmcNUGGIESMydude 2 жыл бұрын

5:50 lol UNDERSTAND HELL NO*

@jk844100 2 жыл бұрын

When you say “1 frame normal” do you mean in old terminology or new? Because in 3rd strike when someone says “chun-li has a 2 frame jab” they mean it has 2 frames of start up and then hits on the 3rd. Which in modern terminology we’d call a “3 frame jab”. Is Magneto’s c.LK 1 frame start up and then hits on the second (2 frame normal in modern terms) or does it actually hit on the next frame after you press the button?

@SGBlack 2 жыл бұрын

You should reference G Conceptz's channel. He has a bunch of videos he made recently about MVC2 mechanics and whatnot for relatively new people

@ronaldkeen5256 2 жыл бұрын

Hey JM! where is everyone getting the fightcade rom from for MVC2? Can't seem to find it, thanks!

@Ryusuta 2 жыл бұрын

Would it be possible for someone to double-check the frame data on Servbot's fastest normal? The website lists all of his standing normals as having a 6-frame startup, and that seems very wrong. (For reference, that's the same amount of startup time as Juggernaut's light kick.)

@casbalt7763 2 жыл бұрын

I miss mvc 2. Easily one of my most played ps2 games.

@93msimpson 2 жыл бұрын

I just started playing mvc2, is there a good beginner guide for it? Idk what im supposed to do in combos

@YiddishDancingClown 2 жыл бұрын

Loving all these MVC2 videos. Please make more, I'll watch a video about how Hayato clips his toenails idgaf.

@cfeyecaregaming5950 2 жыл бұрын

Is there a resource for team comps in mvc2? Like somewhere to go to tell me what characters play what role on a team?

@christopherfiore960 2 жыл бұрын

Old game! Old Game?! This is THE Game!

@juanatenco453 2 жыл бұрын

What it really troubles me is that I can't perform the DHC to save my characters, I perform the first HC and then I try to perform the second DHC nothing happens, I wonder if there is some sort of timing to perform the second HC since you make it look very easy.

@PortCityBalrog 2 жыл бұрын

The timing is different from Mavel 3. In Marvel 2 try and DHC earlier that you would expect

@TatsuMakiEd 2 жыл бұрын

Bro try spamming them in training mode 🤙

@elmaionesosexo 2 жыл бұрын

You can only do it when the screen is just a color, like Blue, Green or Red

@swisserty 2 ай бұрын

absolute toot styled maniacal

@Tibazz 2 жыл бұрын

I got inspired recently to download fightcade and give mvc2 a shot, as a matter of fact i just got done playing Umvc3 with a friend over at my place today. I have quite some legacy "modern" day fighting experience but my BIG problem with mvc2 is that it feels so strange to move around, and the lack of a default "magic series" makes me not really understand a characters combo utility. It is all just, few hits into super, where are Umvc3 is so many more hits. My question then is: what is the best way to understand a characters combos and/or movement ? Tibazz

@elmaionesosexo 2 жыл бұрын

Playing the characters

@Tibazz 2 жыл бұрын

@@elmaionesosexo Its so obvious : ) To be honest, not feeling motivated to do so.

@delsi3795 2 жыл бұрын

Would you ever host an Ex Layer tournament?

@carlosobregon877 2 жыл бұрын

Here to find out if this video proves successful or if it is re-uploaded under a different title.

@jmcrofts 2 жыл бұрын

no need to re-upload, i can just change the title

@PortCityBalrog 2 жыл бұрын

I think it will be successful, Justin Wongs channel is like Majority Marvel 2 now. Marvel Heads don't have alot of representation in 2021 so they back the people still doing it now.

@foarfield 2 жыл бұрын

It should be noted that switch glitching is frowned upon.

@lordmoo1 Жыл бұрын

Where can I get this emulator and ROM? I used to love this game in the arcade way back in the day

@richardjanuszkowski5989 2 жыл бұрын

how to survive chip....that changes the game at least to me more than I'm willing to understand at this point.

@sneakerking331 2 жыл бұрын

I have fightbcade all my games work flawlessly except mvc2 it lags and is unplayable is there something I need to do to get it to work like the other games

@gamesonastick 2 жыл бұрын

8:50 Can we call it a 'reverse quarter circle'?

@everthon2457 2 жыл бұрын

0:44 then... who finded it?

@Egganopolis82 2 жыл бұрын

How do you tech throws in this game?

@marthiousknowledge9 6 ай бұрын

You gotta be an engineer to play this game 😂😂😂

@kingpin5639 2 жыл бұрын

Are you guys still working on thos game to be played download on your local store

@GerardoVillarreal1101 2 жыл бұрын

Low-key in love? What would it be to be openly in love with the game! We all know you love MvC2!!!

@megamix5403 2 жыл бұрын

Which characters have a safe DHC? Do you know?

@GohTheGreat 2 жыл бұрын

I don’t play Mv2 but I do play other tag fighters. Usually if a characters super is a projectile, it’ll be safe on DHC

@CommunitySkratch 2 жыл бұрын

THIS GAMES CRACK, DONT NEED NO RESOURCES, JUST HIT THE CRAKC

@getinthering7309 2 жыл бұрын

can aynone tell me who are the air dasher chars in this game?

@happycamperds9917 2 жыл бұрын

Are throws f1 in this game?

@FlockofSmeagles 2 жыл бұрын

YOOO, this is exactly that insider bullshit that people like to gatekeep. Do this for third strike and others as well.

@sabin97 5 ай бұрын

i never got the arcade version working.....so i had to settle for the dreamcast version

@no_uhs5249 2 жыл бұрын

I’m trying to figure out how to do dhcs it’s really awkward and weird

@SmashBrosmike85 2 жыл бұрын

A 21 year old game got rollback before DBFZ did, that one stings, guys.

@kunaikilla 2 жыл бұрын

I thought akuma has the fastest jab in the game.

@ninjabastard 2 жыл бұрын

MvC2's bad QA is a feature not a bug.

@abdelhamid4856 Жыл бұрын

Where can I play mvc2

@hoboryan3455 15 күн бұрын

MVC2 Is FREEEEEEE LIETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

@jenishshrestha2305 2 жыл бұрын

Can you do a Mugen tournament please

@Dezzerkas 2 жыл бұрын

To me, this just seems like a really hard game. I dont know if I want to invest the time into learning this.

@MystDawg 2 жыл бұрын

Like anything that's complex, it takes time. MvC2 is such a varied game that some people don't even use these tips, like alpha counter or dhc glitch. At top level it'll be brutal yes, but it takes time to get there. I'd say just try to have fun with the game at your own pace and learn what you need to learn when you need it. Like if you're struggling with damage then learn big combos or if you keep getting chipped learn to alpha counter. I play a low mid tier team in this game and I didn't even know about half the things in this video and I still have fun just learning and enjoying the game. Just play it at your own pace and have fun, if it's still not a game for you then it's okay, but don't be intimidated by depth, you'll get there if you play long enough. Definitely recommend some Sajam content if you're interested in learning about fg philosophy.