WA-2000 is so expensive that only professional high-class hitman like agent 47 would use.

“A whopping 7.9- That’s not so bad “Kilos” Oh

3:03 It angers me to see empty cases flying out of a caseless amunition gun

Remember: Switching to your pistol is always faster than unfolding your gun

I hate how they didn't even mention that the FMG was literally just a Glock in a fancy housing.

Ian's got everyone covered.

"Even causing the entire companys downfall." Zip 22: "First time?"

Whenever I see the pan or jackhammer all I can think about is Zach freaking out over how it’s not real

"The pancor jackhammer weighs 7.9" oh that's not that bad "kilos". Holy shit

"The g11 was in fallout 2" proceeds to show a clip of the rancor jackhammer equipped. (they were both in the game)

Pancor Jackhammer: *exists in a video game* Zach: the amount pure unfiltered rage I feel at this collection of polygons on a screen cannot be described with words or even numbers for quintillions of cubic acres do not even begin to compare to the magnitude of my hatred

I think the g11 being in fallout 2 is reasonable, they managed to make plasma weapons and gauss weapons so making a viable g11 can’t be to hard

I like how every weapon on this list has its own video on the Forgotten Weapons channel, including the XM8. Johnathan Ferguson also worked with Ian McCollum to publish a (one of his many) book titled "Thorneycroft to SA80: British Bullpup Firearms, 1901-2020."

The Heckler & Koch XM8 should really deserve more screen time. It's probably the most hyped, iconic and widely used weapon in Hollywood and videogames that besides some Malaysian forces never broke through.

The XM8 is to this day one of the coolest looking weapons ive seen.

I've heard the G11 described as "Kraut space magic".

When the WA-2000 failed to meet expectations with the GSG9, the PSG-1 was adopted. A weapon also featured in Call of Duty Black Ops.

I think its funny how the Pancor Jackhammer literally has an MP5-SD handguard slapped on it as part of its design

The new (much more realistic) version of the Pancor Jackhammer is the AA12. It's an automatic 12ga shotgun that actually achieved everything the Jackhammer was supposed to be, and it looks very similar if you throw the 20 round drum mag on it.

Well to those who were wondering about the FMG. Magpul has officially announced that it will be moving this weapon into production, and is looking at a release for 2022. I can't wait

3:03 "It was an experiment in a caseless ammunition weapon system" [shows G11 ejecting cases] Yes, I know that it was the game's problem, but I just thought it was funny.

3:05 case less ammunition drops bullet shells.........

To my knowledge one major reason the Pancor Jackhammer is so common in video games is that a person who was in possession of one of the prototypes also had connections to a place that did high-end 3D models by scanning real objects, and put it through there.

Since this video, a second Jackhammer has appeared. It was held by the widow of the Jackhammer designer and appeared for auction. It was a lot lighter than the tool room prototype that everyone knows.

The reason there is only 1 jackhammer left is because Zach destroyed them all

*Sees Pancor Jackhammer* Zach: *Loads shotgun with malicious intent*

12:35 nah... I recognize it from Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter

The XM29 OICW is also kind of famous among Half-Life fans do to its role in the beta versions of Half-Life 2 as the standard-issue rifle of the Combine (a massive alien empire stretching across multiple universes). It was later replaced in the final version of the game by the Pulse Rifle, an energy weapon that functions like a regular assault rifle.

12:08 well, hold on, let's not forget about the Daewoo K11. Of course, there's no direct relationship, but it is quite the successor in spirit.

holy shot he pronounced heckler & koch correctly

Surprised that you guys mentioned the G11 in Fallout 2 but not the Pancor, despite showing the Pancor equiped

Walther 2000 also appeared in Twilight:2000, but I used a scope on my HK-21 machine gun on single shot for sniping unless the Barrett was handy.

It's nice to see Hot Dogs Horseshoes and Hand Grenades getting some representation on KZfaq!

"And remember, drawing your weapon is always faster than unfolding one"

I love how they show the h3vr clip in every gun because that game has everything

You know what else is rare that's always in video games, an L85A1 dumping a whole mag without stoppage xD

where I saw these weapons for the first time: Jackhammer: Die hard trilogy 2 - ps1 Hk G11: Syphon filter 2 - ps1 under the name H11 Wa 2000: Hitman blood money - ps2 FMG: Syphon filter 3 - ps1 under the name Mars OICW: Soldner secret wars - PC XM8: Ghost recon advanced warfighter 2 - PC under the name m8 XM25: COD MW3 - PC PS: According to Ian from forgotten weapons, The only surviving copy of The Jackhammer is merely a proof of concept prototype, which explains the unpractical reloading mechanism that requires partially disassembling the gun....check out the story behind the gun and the company on forgotten weapons which is sad.

I love how you didn't even mention that the HK G11 went through multiple trials and developments, had it's ammunition developed to be reliable, and one last thing, was formerly procured and money was put aside in the German budget to buy a number of them, planning to replace G3s in service up to 2002. It only was pulled because the wall came down.

There have been automatic shotguns that have been put into serial production. The AA12 and USAS come to mind as does the Saiga which has had automatic versions made. The WA2000 doesn't really count as a weapon that "isn't as real as you think" as it is real and went into serial production albeit a small production. "

3:03 I could slap the developer of this game for makng a CASELESS ammunition using rifle eject spend cartridges

I saw the jackhammer and the G11 at first in project IGI and IGI 2 Covert Strike respectively, god i loved the first game, i might even go play it now just to remember the good old days !

Everyone: FMG isn’t real. Magpul: Well actually...

I can hear Zach crying tears of joy that the horrors of the Pancore Jackhammer are shown bare for everyone to see. He's also crying tears of joy because now he has something to direct Mike to in the case he brings it up again.

I know this videos a bit older, but really loving this series. Keep it up!

This video should be called “4 out of these 5 were very real weapons that were made and tested”

What I’ve gathered from this is that realistically, simplicity is the best selling point for a gun

Loving this series of videos!

3:25 Indeed it did, but the snippet you show has the Jackhammer on display (the G-11 was also in Land Warrior, BTW).

3:04- woah I’m having a nostalgia attack. Someone help. I wasn’t ready.

One thing in games, your arms don't get tired and accuracy drop even after firing thousands of rounds

You guys added 007 NightFire's AIMS-20 on the OICW segment, that made my day right there.

Fmg and g11 are my favorite forgotten attempts...well made video!

As a long time gamer turned to gun enthusiast, I'm actually impressed by the selection in this video. The WA-2000 and the Thompson were my two favorite video game guns of all time, and when I became a gun owner and looked into buying either of them, my heart sank. Like the video showed, the WA-2000 starts around the $21K-$28K price range. As for the Thompson, an actual proper one with full-auto capability is gonna START at around $44K in bad condition, and ones in great condition can get as high as $145K. I found it amazing you can buy a semi-auto .50BMG like the M82 for less than half the price of a WA-2000, and the M82 and similar .50BMG semi-autos are gonna run you about $9K if you get the heavy af steel ones, or about $12K for the light weight carbon fiber models out there (they sell about 4 different variations at my local gun shop). Even those are way outside of a reasonable price range. So what've I bought? Well, I built my own 5.56x45mm AR-15 (no kit, just pure Frankenrifle) of about a $1,600 value for about $900 (building your own and buying parts during sales is the way to go), and my current project is an Enfield No.4 Mk1* that some fool sporterized (thank God they didn't chop the barrel or scallop the receiver). Bought it for $200, and have been restoring it to factory-spec, but also outfitted it with a 4-14x44mm first focal plane scope, and have made my own custom hand loaded ammo, and this thing is shooting 1,000 yards now with what I'd call "combat accuracy," all under $700 total. Video games got me into guns, and I couldn't be happier, even if a ton of iconic video game guns will never be mine. Was pretty funny that games had me convinced Glocks are awesome, but first time I held one, I know my face immediately turned to disgust; the grip is one of the worst grips I've ever held. Ended up favoring the Sig P226 - those things are sa-weet! Sig P365 is also a great pistol. While I'm upset with Springfield Armory, I also can't deny their Springfield XD is also a pleasure to shoot. My favorite handgun so far, though has been my .40S&W Astra A-100, which I've never once seen in any game or movie. Basically a heavy, all-steel version of the Sig P226. The steel frame can let you ramp up the .40S&W to some spicy handloads, significantly more powerful than .45ACP and about the same speed as 9mm, but with a big ol' 180gn bullet. Not as high cap as 9mm, as the gun is 13+1, but damn, looks classy af, is pin-point accurate, and has enough power to drop a black bear, making it a great defensive auto loader to have on your hip hunting in the mountains. Anyway, great video. I could talk both guns and games for days, lol!

Fun fact: the SMG in Halo uses a top-loading caseless ammo mag as direct nods to the P90 and G11.

Two of my personal favorites not featured in this video are the O'Dwyer VLe (dual-caliber caseless 'Metal Storm' handgun) in Soldier Of Fortune: Payback, and the Crye Associates MR-C (bullpup 6.8mm caseless assault rifle with 50 round mag) in Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter and its sequel.

I remember first seeing the OICW as the more advanced NICW (Nanotech Individual Combat Weapon) in Red Faction 2, which looks incredibly similar. It was my favorite gun in that game, the assault rifle and grenade launcher combination was versatile and worked for everything you needed. It also featured the innate ability to highlight enemies with teal hologram boxes through walls at medium to close range, along with showing their HP value, which was pretty cool! Finding out it was an actual real weapon is pretty amazing, sad the idea didn't stick though.

I just came on this video to see the obligatory Pancor Jackhammer in the thumbnail angry Zach noises comments. You can keep scrolling now

The Magpul PDR warrants a mention for the sequel.

They skipped over the most interesting thing about the G11 - it has a 3-rouind burst fire mode that was designed to be capable of sending three bullets downrange before the user feels any recoil. This burst was so fast that if the first shot was a little off target, at least one round would hit and an on-target shot had a high chance of putting all three rounds in the target almost all at once. They never figured out how to properly deal with the heat buildup of a mostly closed firing mechanism, but some of the system designs survived and might be used in future weapons. For the record, I first encountered this gun in Syphon Filter: The Omega Strain. I had a large book called Modern Small Arms on my coffee table at the time, and it was pretty cool to use an exotic gun like this in the game and then read about in a book on real guns. Also, the G3 in that game was borderline OP, but was super fun to use.

That 007 Agent Under Fire clip of it's "D-17" made my day!

Another would be the LSAT Battlefield and Ghost Recon Future Soldier both featured it when its been a functioning prototype for a decade or more

HK G11: "Hans, i'm going to make ze cuckoo clock into into a gun!"

Delta Force game, now that's a blast from the past. Also, the OICW made a movie appearance in Die Another Day when Col. Moon used it to blow up the helicopter with "Depleted uranium shells, naturally"

This is a very good video. Love this channel.

i remember seeing the g-11 in guns and ammo. sometime in the mid to late 80's then again in fallout2 . neat gun but still had some kinks to work out.

I knew the jackhammer was rare, but I never knew there was only ONE! That's awesome. I'm very surprised you didn't cover the Saritch 308. It has appeared in a few games, but the gun never existed!

The Pancor Jackhammer was also in Fallout and Fallout 2. The G-11's caseless ammo led to current ammo development that's almost there.

9:20, MW3 specifically was set in the near future, 2013, which is why guns like that, CM901, KSG-12, and the latter mentioned XM25 as well, they were speculating on current prototype weapons that might’ve shortly seen service

To this day, I still think FMG9 is one of the best inspirations for weapons that can be foldable and concealed. Maybe for security purpose, it is not good deal but for fast reaction team like GSG9 who might need some kind of fire power against threats with automatic weapons. In addition, currently they have pistol to carbine conversion kit which eliminate the folding ready system existed on previous foldable weapons.

Cool to see H3VR get some mainstream exposure. Easily the best gun simulation.

10:00 Red Faction 2 has this, called the NICW. It's a silenced mg, with second fire being a fast moving grenade with no drop. It's practically an explosive-tipped railgun.

I was OBSESSED with the XM29 as a kid. I literally drooled every time I saw one.

Magpul just put out a video, with some short clips of the FMG-9 and a headline saying “We’re Making It”

Thanks for showing off footage from H3VR.

So many Delta Force: Land Warrior guns! I played the heck out of that game back in the day.

About the OICW, it also bears worth mentioning that even the XM25 has been criticized by it's weight and bulk for it's rather niche application; airburst grenades really are something that sounds really cool but hard to apply in practice.

The G11 was almost adopted. It made it through endurance trials, troop trials, and was greenlit. Really the thing that stopped it was the fall of the Berlin Wall and reunification of Germany. Less need for defense, money needed for reunification infrastructure and projects, and also surplus AK-74s from East Germany, and the adoption was cancelled.

How you going to do my favorite forgotten action hero, Gabe Logan, dirty like that and not mention the G11 was in Syphon Filter. It was an absolute beast of a weapon in that game.

Would be interesting to hear about the Halo scout rifle. Thank you again for these.

I first came across the G11 in Jagged Alliance 2, where it's this unique almost-SciFi rifle with a burst mode that kind of goes _srrrppp_ and makes enemies's heads explode in gore. Accurately presented in-game as being fiendishly hard to repair or find the right ammunition for.

Fun fact: The OICW was intended to be in Half Life 2

In Syphon Filter 3 we have a g11 that can shoot through walls. You forget to mention that game

I love how that they are essentially saying "We're looking at you Zach" by having the Pancor Jackhammer the the thumbnail.

Ah the OICW my favorite prototype weapon. First used it in original Farcry and it was instantly my favorite weapon in the game.

The G11 is also the JSSDF main weapon in Evangelion.

Only legends know how awesome and badass is jackhammer in Project IGI 1,2

most of these weapoms could be seen in Jagged alliance 2,but I guess not so many people remember that great game. still remember getting the g11 and then not be able to get ammo for it afterwards.

So happy to see Delta Force by Novalogic referred. Loved that game.

Woot Fallout 2 G11 reference! That's where I first fell in love with the gun and told every kid at middle school how it was the uber weapon!

The OICW is very similar to the K11 rifle that South Korea are currently developing and looking to implement into their armed forces. I suspect the K11 was inspired by the OICW but I I'm not sure.

3:04 “It was an experiment in a caseless ammunition weapon system” *Footage shows cases flying out of the G11*

The OICW era of video game weapons was pretty cool though. That thing was a beast in Nightfire.

I remember loving the OICW in Ghost recon: jungle storm. Never thought it was a real gun though

TFW you had seen most of hem in Forgotten weapon channel¨ Im so envy of gunJesus

props for the Hardline footage. Sometimes i think im the only person who genuinely liked that game. Had it released without the Battlefield branding, as its own IP. It may have done well.

Love the Qotsa album in your background

I missed the PDR-C, another gun by Magpul that only exists in games and airsoft.

I think gamespot is confusing "rare" with "real".

Man the OICW was in litterally every shooting game that I used to play back in the days... Delta Force, Ghost Recon, etc.

when I found out that the G11 is a disaster gun, I was like: my disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined