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This was major 1st world problems for us. My wife loves the way the TRD PRO looks, but as I researched this more and more, I found that there are just to many negatives to justify the 80k price tag. We bought a few year old LX570 and I'm very happy with that purchase for less money then the Sequoia. I'm a Toyota fan, but there are some major oversights for this one that could all be corrected with with a refresh after a few model years. They also need to reduce the price to 65-70k for the TRD PRO.

Toyota has been dropping the ball hard for while now. Especially with their prices. Toyota have lost their core values.

@TRDJon you are SPOT ON. These rants are exactly what we need to make a qualified decision on these models and trims. You said it, I was thinking it, for $80K this top end trim Sequoia should feel premium, have clever storage, fuel efficiency and appropriate software details for this price point. We saw the TRD PRO at our local car show and was disappointed. Loved a lot of things, but it fell short of expectations. ESP. for price. Enjoy the heck out of your reviews. One of my favs.

You damn right we riot if they take out the rear window in the 4Runner!!!!!

Nice honest review. As a Toyota fan I found all these last generation Tacomas, Tundras and Sequoias are not what I expected from Toyota. What they have in common? the chief engineer, Mike Sweers. The 4 Runner still been built in Japan, that is the difference. is solid, well built vehicle.

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Me in 2020, 2021, 2022: yes yes yes a new sequoia Me in the end of 2022: 😢 Bought my 2008 RWD sr5 premium (leather and JBL) with 83k miles in summer of 2012…..currently at 211k miles. Zero issues except the stupid AUX port doesn’t work - and I don’t ever use it. I use it as a family vehicle. Four kids. German Shepherd. Loaded with 50+ bags of mulch last year twice in one day. Loaded full of 4x8 sheets before. Put thirty 16 footer deck boards from the rear window up the the dash board. My interior is still phenomenal. Still solid. Nothing broken. Leather is great except a very very minor tear in driver seat. It is still EXTREMELY comfortable. I average 16.5 mpg at 75 mph fully loaded. I average 17.5-19 mpg at 60 mph. Completely stock except mufflers are removed. Sounds better than a TRD or borla or magnaflow exhaust IMO. Only considering to replace my sequoia with a 2018-2022. Slightly considering the grand highlander….but I’m nearly debt free (except my house). There is a beautiful 2019 TRD sport sequoia I am looking at with around 70k miles for $44k but….mine works perfectly at 15 years old and 211k miles so….I may buy a Tacoma and make it a camping vehicle. Cheers my brother. God bless.

100% agree with all your points and they are all the reasons I’m not buying a Sequoia.

Those are all valid points! My closest dealer notified me they had a Sequoia TRD Pro listed it at 93,095 on 3/11/23 and it’s gone. For those prices unless you absolutely are set on getting the hybrid for the power, trying to find a LX 600 at MRSP my be a better option. I like the tech upgrades and the exterior of the new Sequoia, for the average person those prices keep me locked in my current one. One thing I feel on the Sequoias all trims should come with Premium lights and the option for captains or bench seats since the second row is locked in place now.

Good stuff man, I agree these are kind of disappointing. I was extremely excited about the new Sequoia ever since I saw the solid rear axle. But the pricing turned out way out of my range. It's pretty much overlapping with the 200 series. At this price I'm also expecting more.

Appreciate you for showcasing us the pros and cons on your cars or rather cars that us, consumers desire to buy, but can’t. Looking forward to more of your videos

Overall...I have really enjoyed this Sequoia for the last month and a half, but some things, just make me scratch my head. Thoughts???

This is a great honest video. As far as the software bit you mentioned, that is pure laziness. They’re cutting corners on what’s supposed to be the new flagship SUV. If you’re in a Denali, you know damn well it’s a Denali. I don’t think it’s a small thing to overlook because it really starts to add up when you compare it to it’s competitors.

All valid points. I do wish manufacturers would do the Mercedes design by having column shifter but just shortened up. Also pretty crazy the tundra seems more luxurious

“If not, we riot.” Love it bruv.

FYI I had the same issue with my seat in my capstone Sequoia. Toyota swapped out both front seat frames and that fixed the issue.

This is one of my favourite videos Jon! You hit those points spot on. I did start laughing at the first world problems with the infotainment graphics of the Sequoia. Your damn straight I wanna see a TRD Pro on the screen if I paid $80k+ ! Toyota needs to hire you to sort this all out. Keep up the great work!

Toyota and Lexus have been relying on their name and how it relates to reliability to get away with dropping the ball and raising prices . Yet they barley got back in the game with technology and meanwhile lost quality in the process . It’s a damn shame .

Toyota Sequoia TRD Pro (2nd generation), simply the best

I finally cancelled my Pro order. Since your recent vids with the newly purchased tundra, I might switch back to tundra hunting. The choices now are hybrid or not powerplant, and Limited + TRD Off-road vs Platinum 4x4. The more vids I saw about how the Pro isn't worth the asking price, I more I feel comfortable with cancelling it. Keep up with great contents.

Great review ! i totally agreed with your comments , especially the cargo space sucks for such a huge SUV+ cheap interior feels for a 76k , now i am thinking twice if i wanna get one

"Moose ear mirrors", great stuff Jon !😂

Thanks JON for posting this video. I was thinking of buying Sequoia also, but the back of head was not, and wait what people complain about their Sequoia. What you said in the video make a lot of sense ..... like side mirrors create big blind spot which it is true other people complained about the side mirrors too. And cargo area is too small for the Sequoia. Thanks for the video.

That cargo area was a huge deal breaker for me. With 2 kids and a dog it doesn't work. The price increase over the 2nd generation is crazy as well. Staying with my 4runner.

Solid review. Call it like it is. Sequoia missed the mark on the interior design.

I totally agree that rear window on 4 runner is the best idea ever .. I think all cars should copy it ...

I appreciate your nonbiased approach.

Great video! It seems like Toyota was rushing during development of the car. On the next refresher they’ll make the the right changes, we hope!

Even compared to my 20 year old 1st gen Sequoia, the new one doesn't feel "better." Sure it looks better and the tech is more up-to-date, but after that I feel as if my rig is just as capable or better for the exact reasons outlined in this vid.

Roll down window is the best Toyota option. I take my bed cap off my Crewmax Tundra in the summer just so I can fully enjoy the rear window.

I can totally relate to the cheep feel. Bought a Ford raptor, and I don’t know why it takes a while to notice it, but after a couple months, I was thinking man, this is really a crap interior. plastic everything, I think I had a better stereo that came stock with my 1983 Camaro. These prices are downright ridiculous for what the manufacturers are using as far as materials and electronics. very disappointing.

I agree on all points... Its frustrating bc they could.have made this an absolute homerun on all fronts. Idk why they chose to do a few of the things theyve chosen to do with this truck.

You absolutely went off and I love it. Between the Sequoia and the Tundra, Toyota really dropped the ball with their releases. And this is common with any new generation of vehicle. That’s why I will never by the first couple of years from a new generation of any vehicle ever.

Excellent video, honest and super valid points. Thank you for all your work!

That car is so amazing looking . it's like being angry your Butler can't pilot your private helicopter .

I'm a yota man myself but you nailed the key points. The mirrors are horrible. They should give you the option to have the tow mirrors or not. The seating arrangement is seal breaker for me. I utilize all my spaces

I believe that all auto makers to include Toyota are building all of the new models cheaper and asking more money for them, I also believe long term reliability will not be as good as the old models.

Smaller boosted engines, with lots of HP,😮 when on boost will have similar MPG to the bigger NA engines they replace. One has to learn to drive them to get the better MPG. So in real life world MPG, they can and tend to get less MPG as people aren’t patient and go on full boost quite often.

Have you had Bluetooth connection problems? I had an issue with both the Tundra and Sequoia where it would connect/disconnect Bluetooth about 15 times before it starts playing audio. It did this every time I started the vehicle. I agree the mirrors and storage are a problem. Cargo lighting sucks too.

John I have had 2022 TRD pro tundra since October of last year best gas mileage I can get is 19MPG at about 65mph average. Have 6000 miles on the truck I thought would get better after break in but nope.

Totally agree...the mirrors are hideous!! It's hard to believe that Toyota thinks that this look is anything other than just plain bad. The cheaply made interior parts are a complete joke for an 80K+ SUV. Toyota engineers have lost their collective minds!!

Lots of cost cutting for profit margins. Toyota and Lexus can’t get seat backs/lumbar right, my lexus would squeak and pop when barely moving in the seat. Good honest review of the negative things that aren’t a surprise actually.

Great job on the video Jon! Thanks for making it.

I'm glad you are complaining about MPG. I feel like we are getting scammed and the car manufacturers are doing it all to reduce emissions.

I agree with the cheap feel, in the tundra too. Was appaled at the quality of these newer trucks, I paid 48k otd for my 16 limited tundra and it feels like a better truck than 64k 22 limited

That rear Sequoia badge would be coming off right away.

Great video! I wanted to buy one, now I think I’ll wait and see if they make some adjustments next year. I think you made some great points.

Appreciate you coming strong against the Sequoia, but more importantly highlighting the features you don't wanna compromise. Hard to argue against buying Tundra over Sequoia for that 20K+ difference.

Great video, i heard it was an EPA issue with rear roll window due to exhaust gases being sucked into the cabin at driving speeds. BS in my mind. Gas mileage is terrible, my 2021 V8 suburban does much better. Toyota should hire you as a consultant so they stop making these errors. Good looking vehicle overall but it is a new model and they all have issues first year. Toyota will fix them eventually. If it were made in Japan it would be a better quality machine IMO. Keep up the great work!

I bought a 2002 Secrappa. It was alright, but had un-toyota like problems. However, it had more room in the back with the 3rd row installed. Usually, the 3rd row seats sat in my garage. Sad to see they're wired in and can't be removed.

Toyota should’ve made the side mirrors removable so you can use them as picnic tables. But I get why they didn’t, cus that would require an additional 50 cent part.

good video, john. i think if the sequoia was built in Japan, it would probably would have been a better build, I have to agree with you, it's those little details that matter.

Appreciate your honesty, Jon! Those tow mirrors are awful.

Hey Jon, big fan of the channel, great content! I was curious what camera you use?

Jon, I have been away but curious how you were enjoying the Sequoia. I think your list is really valid. You wonder sometimes what these designers discuss during the R&D. 80K and all that plastic... shame on you Toyota!

Great information. Definitely get that seat fixed under warranty. Agree 100% regarding the mirrors and your other beefs. Talking BIG money, Toyota should do better.

Every single one of those points seem like an oversight to me. Especially the cup holder situation. Another thing that bothers me is the light tan headliner and upper half trim. Should be black or match the interior. Just looks tacky and gets smudges really easily.

Your info delivery and pace of video is very well done! Felt like we were having a conversation, nice job!

Excellent video, we have a limited with TRD Off Road and was around 74k out the door. Ours does not have the tow mirrors our dealer calls them bat ears lol.

My biggest gripe is they don’t offer an ‘XL’ or ‘Max’ version like the longer Suburban/Expedition Max. The moveable 3rd row is a great feature but in order to carry 7/8 people and all their stuff, you need a long version especially with the hybrid power train.

I have seen some people have removed the 3rd row it looks good, but I wonder if a refresh will do that from factory. Not being able to take them out easily does make turning the trd pro into an overlanding rig way more difficult, which kinda defeats the purpose of having a trd pro.

Thank you for the review,its an eye opener…

That TRD pro mold on the back hatch is pure class

Great review! A lot of these things would have went right over my head but it sounds like most of these things Toyota can fix in later model years. I'm still waiting for a new 4Runner though.

I feel the previous generation is a better overall large size hauler.

We're Toyota fans, but we were very disappointed in the new Sequoia. SO glad we bought a beautiful Tahoe RST. Much nicer interior, great cargo area and 3rd row seats, 6.2 L V-8. Blows it away!

Good review. My wife will need a new vehicle next year and she hoped to get a new Sequoia, but that’s not happening at this time.

Great video. The Sequoia is disappointing considering what you get for the price. The Grand Highlander is a much better value and more practical as well.

Sounds like the grand highlander is a better vehicle to get. Also just 1 less cubic ft of space plus better gas mileage.

It was enough for me to hear the second reason to stop thinking about buying. And yes, mirrors do look ugly.

The mirrors are there because this model was honestly saved and derived from the tundra. However they can certainly be refined for the suv

Big question.....would you buy it again knowing what you do now? I love my 2020 Sequoia!

Hi Jon, nice video! I would say it’s not luxurious enough because it’s not the Capstone version as that one is the one meant to have upscale and premium touches everywhere. This one is supposed to have more rugged theme overall. And maybe that’s why it may feel cheap! Love your TRD PRO Sequoia

Thank you for this honest review

If they screw up the Tacoma and 4Runner then I will be quite upset.

$80K if lucky. Most dealers are asking an extra $15K, markup.

How come all you KZfaqrs have all these problems with your Toyotas. I don’t have any problems. Other then then the Roof Rack makes a bunch of wind noise and kills the MPG oh yah and it’s so low that it would high center on a bottle cap and the factory running boards are so abrasive that if your wear shorts and low socks you are going to cut the a k side of your leg getting out. Ok so maybe I was wrong and there are a couple of problems🤣. Thank goodness we came up with fixes for all of them. Thank goodness for little companies with big ideas or should I say good ideas😉. Keep up the good work!👍

For reference I had a new 2001 Sequoia with the 4.7- I averaged 16mph overall

Guns a blazin on this one! Love it. Nice work Jon.

I was a hardcore Toyota fan boy and journeyman tech for Toyota but in the last 5 years I sold my Tundra and Tacoma for Nissan Titan and the wife drives a new Nissan Armada. Toyota is lost imo for building trucks in last 5 plus years.

My tundra seat rattled like that, felt like there was a plastic water bottle in the seat. Drove me nuts, even tried to take it in for warranty and they just laughed at me basically…but it drove me freaking nuts.

Now you understand why I don't like those mirrors. I think nobody check how they work they just installed . It's easy to get accident because you can't see anything.

This Is Why I'm keeping my 2009 Highlander Limited!! 21mpg, AWD, Leather, DVD, 3.5L V-6, Navi, 19 inch wheels, premium sound, woodgrain and leather....tight AF!! $9,000 🙃

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Interesting that the trd pro sequoia cup holder layout is different than the trd pro tundra. Mine has the cups side by side like your sr5 truck did. My mileage is no better than my 2016 trd pro (though i have 35s and didn't on my old one). But the 2022 sure is more fun to drive than my 16.

The loss of a center bench is becoming very common. Not a fan of that, especially with kids.

All good points. They nailed the exterior design but that’s about it. Nothing wow about the vehicle at all. Fingers crossed they mail the Taco and 4R

This makes me very happy that I found a 2020 TRDpro sequoia. Even tho I have a new one on order. I think I’m not going to take delivery and walk away. I used mine to haul all my dogs. And it would be dumb if me to even swap for imho worse version of the sequoia.

I'm with you bro 💯, That would bug me too, great points.

Thank you so much You save me from a bad purchase i have an appointment tomorrow to get one but at 90ks but I'd rather get the Lincoln navigator

I have a TRD Pro, I don’t have the tow mirrors and thank god for that. I came from a highlander and quality, fit and finish is about the same or at least I don’t notice a difference. I had it on a lift and everything underneath is massive and overbuilt. My mechanic couldn’t believe that Toyota built it everything so strong. He exact words were, “ it’s still a Sequoia underneath”.

You are absolutely right? It's the Little things

Was waiting for the Sequoia launch & all the reasons Jon mentioned is why I didn't pull the trigger on it. No flat folding rears & no rear window up & down option 👎🏽 Especially for that price. Now looking at Tundra but no V8 option SMH. Mike Sweers (chief engineer) sucks. I hear the new Tacoma & 4Runner might have only V4 options = no thanks Toyota

I wanted the Sequoia so badly when they first announced it. My husband and I have a baby on the way and we want one more, and I planned to use the Sequoia to take us, our kids, and my in-laws on trips together and when I saw the reviews about the lack of third row space and the fact that we wouldn't be able to fit all our luggage in the back, I was so disappointed. I wouldn't even be able to keep the third row up and keep a stroller and groceries back there. And for the price you pay for 3 rows, you shouldn't have to put it down to fit everyday cargo things. We are now very excited for the Grand Highlander though. I just wish they looked as exciting as the Sequoia!

appreciate your honesty

The mirrors are for parts standardization and bc of shortages in the sensors for the alerts.

Just bought a limited with the TRD OR package. No complaints so far except that the automatic seat doesn’t work sometimes when you use the remote start. The door seal also squeaks sometimes. I get the same mpg, but my 22 explorer with the turbo 4 got the same mpg as my sequoia.

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Both the he tundra and sequoia should’ve had a new v8 with fuel management would’ve made it cheaper. Power output would be similar and immediate cause of no turbo lag. Plus it would sound better.