I find it hard to believe that Polynesians found every island in the Pacific ocean and missed a continent. It also wouldn't surprise me a bit to learn that other Asian, such as Japanese or Chinese peoples and even European stock made it here at some time in the past. Humans are great travelers and always wondered if the promise land didn't lie just beyond the next horizon or across the sea.

Regarding the Cerutti mastodon... The team doing the field work ran tests that showed the bone were not broken by heavy equipment, but were broken during the period of the site. The main person objecting to the conclusions made by the archeology team never actually observed the relics taken from the site, but depended on pictures from third party articles. That a hominid species arrived in North America 140,000 years ago, based on the data available, is an interesting hypothesis. The lack of additional evidence does not preclude that the hypothesis is wrong. However, much more data needs to be collected before we can make a definitive conclusion.

We still can't figure out who pooped in the pool at our hotel. I can only imagine how hard it is for archeologist.

We have stories of trading with Polynesian people and the Pacific islands. Here in British Columbia a boat has been found that is twelve feet deep. Imagine how big that tree was before being transformed into a an ocean going longboat

I know you posted this a year ago but I just saw it for the first time. I have another find made in the United States that is also said to be impossible. I have a Human fossil footprint and stone tool that I found in western New York 40 years ago after reaching out to thousands of people in the field, no one would come out and say that yes it is a Human fossil footprint and stone tool. Only one person, only one said yes I think you have something there and that person was Dr. Matthew Bennett from Bournemouth University. The same man that found the 27 human foot prints in White Sands national Park. Unfortunately, he is too busy with his find to take on my project at this time. I am hoping that he will in the future but I would like to share it with you.

I remember reading that North American archeologists would stop digging after they found Clovis on the assumption that there wasn't anything older.

At present, I take Cerutti as a directive to keep an eye out for other such sites. By itself, it may or may not be what the researchers believe. In any case, it gives a good reason to look for more.

When I was a child, my cousins and I would always play in an abandoned government owned land in the outskirts of Guatemala City. We found many obsidian rocks that seemed to be arrowheads and we even saw what looked like footmarks on a rock. Now that whole area has been developed for social housing and apartment complexes, we still wonder if what we found was a bunch of worthless geofacts or if that place had an historical value that was lost forever due to us never speaking of it with any adult.

I find your dismissal of the Cerutti Mastadon site to be unconvincing. I don’t pretend to be an anthropologist or an archaeologist, but after doing a bit of reading up on the subject, and by looking at photos of the dig and mapping of the bone fragments in relation to nearby “cobbles”, I find the Cerutti Mastadon theory compelling.

DNA is a wonderful tool. Now we know conclusively that South America had a population that derived from or interbred with Polynesians thanks to DNA analysis. Also, the more time for investigation we have, the more we learn that the migration of humans into the America's is likely to be more complicated and nuanced than we previously believed. 😊

8:31 "My opinion isn't worth much." That is probable the most honest thing I have ever heard said on KZfaq : )

The Polynesian/Chumash language similarity is hard to deny

After 50+ year's of interest it's easy to envision many ocean crossings going way further back than usually thought possible, remember when we talk 20,000 year's ago the oceans were much smaller and with isostatic unloading likely dotted with islands, a much easier ocean system to navigate. With many of these people wiped out at the ydb and everything rearranged it's really hard to get your bearings since one thing can show a indication of a event and another right next to it without. Very hard to stand back far enough to get a clear picture. Good stuff and we should be talking about the subject

Man kind has been in the American north and south since dinosaurs wake up

Dr, Stanford had many other scientific reasons that the eastern very old sites are Soluteran. "Across Atlantic Ice" explains many reasons that the very old eastern Paleo sites are not related to Asian cultures and technology. The largest number of Clovis sites is around the Delmarva Peninsula and the technology is much more similar to SE Europe than NE Asia. The oldest relic in North America is a bipoint from miles off of the Virginia coast (found by a fishing boat).

The sewn plank technology could have easily arrived via pieces of broken boats drifting around the World. A couple of pieces would reveal much. Baja has a famous area that scoops up items on the every day of the week. The folks here have collected old blown glass spheres from Japan, used long ago for floating fishing net. Walt Disney wrote it best...."It's a small World after all".

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Solid work as always! Definitely don't disagree with anything covered. But I certainly believe that there's a strong possibility humans existed and had civilizations much further back than what's commonly excepted.

California has received upon her shores the empty boats of many Pacific cultures, most recently those of modern Japan. The Polynesisans themselves did not have to make it all the way to California for the Chumash to have gotten some ideas from their boat making traditions, just one of their boats.

If your talking about the Bog Mummies of Florida I'd be interested in knowing where you got your information on them?

I found a Clovis point in Northumberland Virginia.

For transparency the kennewick man was eventually returned to local tribes who redelivered him to the earth

The Cinmar artifact supports the Salutrian hypothesis much better than the Clovis points and is over 20kyo

The Tlingit and Haida people have stories of people from what is assumed to be Hawaii. As well as a pair of brothers that went there and came back.

I've wondered for awhile if early people found geofacts and that's how we originally learned to make tools from rocks

I’m not sure it’s so hard to believe that the Polynesian people we came across a whole continent before they found Hawaii.

I cant wait to use the chronovisor to watch neanderthals hang ten down in baja

From the description of the site, it's far more likely that the mastodon was caught in a rock slide. The injuries could certainly be explained by that happenstance!

There was later proof that the hitting surfaces of the stones had bone material on them

The Clovis burial does nothing against the Solutrean hypothesis. The Solutreans in France were whale and seal hunters. They followed the migrations routes across the Atlantic to the east coast by boat, not by walking on ice shelfs, then settled there. But what happened between them and the Clovis people is not known -- whether they evolved into Clovis, or like other times in history, were replaced by the Clovis culture. The Solutrean theory is quite solid, it just doesn't fit with modern cultural sensitivities so many try to discredit it. It's a fine example of academic tribalism.

There is evidence that man was here over 200k years ago, but the academic world will not let this out as even possible. An archeolagist found a fire pit and stone tools in South America that dated over 250k years old.

I grew up near the calico early Man site and a friend of mine used to always get so annoyed because it’s just some rocks We can go dig a hole anywhere in the desert and find the same rocks

Good video. I live in New England where there are some sites that people argue were made by Celt’s or Phoenicians. I also wonder if the Mahican’s were originally from Mexico. I have not found a good answer about this. The Aztec called themselves mahica. The land they lived in was called Mehico (Mexico). Folks have made a good argument that Mayan civilization had made it to Georgia. I wonder if the Mahican people might have originally been part of a culture group from Mexico.

Yes , So much Forgotten History going back a Long Long Time !

Very well done than you for sharing.

*I find it curious how agriculture developed in the Americas over the same time period as it did in Anatolia .* And I am interested in the "Black mat layer, what it is and why is it there"?

Controversial but true: The Chumash are part Polynesian, finding the 2 big Islands was easy, along with all the small ones. Why does Kennewick Man's skeleton differ from a modern Coalville? Answer uncomfortable for some people. Western Stem Points look identical to ones in Japan, Russia, New Guinea and Korea but it is generally accepted that the points are evidence of trade with Asia, even though those genetics are no closer than the Eurasian, not Siberian X2. Without Solutreans, its difficult to explain the 2 dozen Solutrean bifaces 19,000 to 21,000 years old in the Chesapeake Area.

How about the Salina Kansas site with 220000 year evidence, below 2 glacier deposits

130,000 years ago somebody was jacking it in San Diego

The Cerutti site was studied by some of the most well known paleontologists in the word. Experts have compared the cracks on the Mastodon bones and those of recently dead elephants and they were identified as being deliberately created by hammer stones which were present and showed the damage identical to the damage on the stones used to crack the elephant bones. By the way, it’s spelled Cerutti. It’s hard to take you seriously when you can’t correctly spell the name of the site.

Fresh bones break VERY differently than dry bone so your idea about dump trucks causing the damage is...frankly ludicrous.

I always thought thought the ice sheet was the passage.

What about a group of Hawaiians getting shipwreck via a storm on the California coast

What I haven’t seen here is the angle that native North American‘s may have come across wreckage of Polynesian boats and duplicated the technology. I was told that natives in the Pacific Northwest had copper jewelry, and they salvaged these from boat wreckage from Asia. I would think that angle is entirely plausible. The Polynesians them selves may not have made it here, however, their boats may have.

We Pacific coasters traveled both directions, from Turtle Island to Asia/Polynesia and vice-versa. We had boats here on the Westcoast with sails above and below that helped us to navigate the big waters. You can probably find Nu7lhalk blood in the Maori people. My first boss told me that us Indians are his Chinese peoples ancestors. Personally I thought he was bats when he said that, but since 87 I've continued to hear that story from the ancients.

It must have been the missing link.

Sometimes rocks are just rocks. Thank you

There is no evidence that any one group of people were "first peoples." This view comes from a very limited conception of the changing patterns of human migration that occurred over far greater periods of time.

Regarding the Chumash peoples and Polynesians. It's not such a stretch to travel all over the Pacific ocean, settle Rapa Nui , etc. And make it to the coast of present California and at least have interaction with those indigenous people. Yes beavers all over make dams without having ever contacted each other. But its not out of the realm of possibility for contact that we've no evidence of. Inconclusive if not intriguing. Would explain a few things. Thanks for your video.

the mastadon could have been preserved in a bog, tarpit, or mountain ice until discovery much later by humans. An empty plank boat could have washed up in california to facilitate the technology transfer.

The Cerutti mastodon IS interesting, but really unlikely. However, if I were that archeologist, I would also mention it. Just to put a pin in it, just in case we find anything else intriguing in the coming centuries.

The bones if they were broken for the marrow they would also have hash marks where the meat was scraped from the bones along with many other telltale signs of consumption. I find it hard to believe any half trained student would not be aware of this leading me to believe that deception rather then error is in play here. There are so many new finds that do not get the scrutiny they deserve and are not even referenced in mainstream paleontology and archeology. It seem to always be prioritized by who it would effect in the hierarchy of accredited Universities and never enters the dissertations from the professional students. If this does not change while the world forums elite owners are controlling what gets excavated and researched and what does not we will be set back hundreds of years. It would seem that the Smithsonian has set the world precedent for controlling what is our past and what they want it to be.

A Polynesian tribe has had a piece of green obsidian for almost 1000 years, and green obsidian only comes from North America

The Navajo people say they are from beyond the eastern u.s. so maybe from western Europe. Many tribes will tell you their people are not from crossing an ice bridge.

People came to the Americas on boats. On every shore. The idea, that people walked across, Canada, That was covered by crevasses, lakes, glaciers, ice a mile thick, and mountains, is ridiculous. Boats. They came in boats. All of them.

So.... I realy like your videos. That being said.... are you using your contrarian position as a smoke screen? lol

If anything, this sounds like a debunking site.

yeah the theory you make fun of, "french people" coming to the americas, isn't just based on tools. I though it was also the haplogroup X factor, but you didn't mention that?

As a girl I was a babysitter, including infants. I've changed hundreds of diapers. As a model, I met Trump many times: he frequently had the smell of poopy pants.

I believe Polynesians did come to California and Africans did reach the US’s Atlantic Coast before Europeans did.

There have been many caucazoids found past 9k bc.

So, Christopher Columbus didn't actually discover America? 😂

I am X2a1 Haplogroup and in our Ojibwe histories we came from and island that flooded (Atlantis theory) some of the people went west some went east (Algik). As an Ojibwe I will believe that somewhat of the Solutrean may be, but I believe as the say our island is Antarctica and we traveled from there. We may find out the truth. All six of my front top teeth have both Eagle Talon cusps and shovel teeth. I’m betting on Alien influence. All said that’s it.

They have proven Polynesia and South America had contact also that Australia is related to Brazil

No one is "native" anywhere if we believe all people exited and spread from Africa. Dna proves relationships between all people

Please study Baja California Sur natives as well.

In the case of Kenewick man what doesn't get asked is where did those features come from.

Genius : what did you call me ?

So what changes if people were in north America 140000 years ago?

Louis and Mary

The algorithm God’s are working in your favor of late. Good for you. Give it another go, if you have the time. God loves a trier. Big fan of your stuff, all else aside.

You should check the current analysis of the subject in May 2024 it’s sounding a little more real

It's a paradox that most people approach contemporary change with a linear-response expectation. In truth, many effects are exponential due to positive feedbacks. When we look to the past, there is a logarithmic foreshortening. A 1000 year period 100,000 years ago is really no more than a 1 year period 100 years ago. Based on this, it must be impossible that any modern human nomads could arrive in San Diego, when there is evidence of contemporary human communities in southern Africa and speciation of Neanderthal in Europe. It's almost as if our cultural ignorance of Siberia, Alaska, and the absence of Beringia today is evidence of the marginality of those regions way back when?

those french people have a lot of gaul

San Diego in the house!!

something to keep in mind is the megalithic stone work in peru and other geographic things in the area such as the nazca stuff. the megalithic stone work is far superior and is always at the bottom. as if the inca people found it and built over the top of it. current theory tries to claim that "royal stone masons" did the work while regular incas did the rest. it makes no sense when considering how stark the differences are. the stones are a study unto themselves they are so impressive. no one knows how they formed the stone or how they moved it. stone work cannot be dated so it is a mystery. peru does not get the attention it deserves. it is loaded with sites and mysteries. i would also like to see a dna study on the elongated skull people in peru and the giant human fossil in nevada. in my opinion, eventually we will find evidence that humans have been here for more than the 13,000 to 15,000 years currently claimed.

Evidence shows the Cerruti site the Bones were not done by Digging Equipment,.......the markings were done long long ago so this is definitely an Ancient Site of Humans in America,........Amazing,

The original people of America were melanated

What's more likely that 2 sperate and independent cultures created a solution to a problem in almost identical ways or some connection existed between them that we r unaware of. Archeology is like writing an autobiography using only a photo book of someone u never knew. This isn't hate just constructive criticism love ur channel!

I am all for seafaring activities - there is now abundant info that early humans became boat builders, and users. Not all long distant voyaging was necessarily intentional !! but remember that to be confident enough to sail between islands in the west Pacific, or to search for them, you would not be at a total loss if you got driven off course by storms. Note that in the Pacific island frequencies decline going eastwards, and if you got that far east you likely were well-prepared, with luck, and quite likely not everyone was lucky, you might survive to make a continental landfall. Who knows where? that would be at the behest of the wind, weather and currents. And - you might be the only remaining passenger. Presumable DNA might reveal that in subsequent generations? Eskimos appeared off Scotland around 1700 - not intentionally. Things can go wrong - but not necessarily 100% wrong.

I counter, poopy video. Sorry, some of the information reported in this video i cant argue with. Some of the information though is "poopy".

Then there's the runic petroglyphs from Missouri, controversial but not all that old. Early Vikings in eastern Canada is no longer controversial. If you extend it to all of the Americas, there is some interesting and credible evidence from Brazil that there was a very early population of people from Africa which may have been (likely were) wiped out by a subsequent wave of people of different origins.

We call geo facts Leaverite for leave er right there. Also tractorfacts.

Cerutti dude he's in the paper you screenshot

This must be real. Adam and Eve had only sons.

Coopers ferry landing

Good video. But it wont take long for your video to be way outdated.

Everything is is subject to opposition

Stone Age Europeans was in Americas first

Geofacts: an excuse by established archeologists to dismiss data they don't want to acknowledge.

I don't need proof...I understand man's curiosity! All of you should too....is that the moon we landed on? We never stop searching our boundaries!

Construction equipment did NOT fracture any of the bones at the Cerutti Site. All of the bones were in-situ and the fracture patterns were inconsistent with crushing force. It is also very odd that a disassembled pile of bones lie around an anvil and hammer stone. It is a real site!

Despite his old school credentials, Vance Haynes had a massive problem with denial & his Eurocentric ego. Anyone who has actually visited the site at Calico and actually walked on different elevations of the long dissected alluvial fan/ terraced shoreline which covers many square miles along the of extinct pleistoscene Lake Manix, would likely have a different opinion or insight. The sheer number of tools and debitage laying on top of, or embedded in the surface of the desert pavement is impressive to say the least. ( not to speak of what has been found in the deep excavations. The area is rich in high quality silicious stone, much being gem or semi precious nature, which along with flint is the preferred material for making tools. Petrified wood, jasper, agate, chalcedony ect. The lower elevations of the alluvial fan closer to the 18k old shoreline produces tools which are accepted by the most archeological community as the Manix culture. That elevation of the shoreline is far below the Calico site, The older tools are found much higher up the alluvial fan, higher than the Calico site and have definitive differences in their style of being worked, Far from being crude or mistaken for geofacts. Many handaxes & other tools are found in large numbers over many square miles tools which are nearly if not identical to ancient Achuelian technology of tools found throughout in the old world. And far to many of these tools show both use -wear and reworking to think they are just river tumbled stones that seemed to brake in the same unusual shapes. Eurocentric mindsets still think that Europoean's actually discovered America, when upon 1st contact there were an estimated 50-70- million people living in North & South America, Disease and encouraged genocidal action and forced labor/ slavery took a massive tole on the original people.

I disagree! Anyway, it's just a thought. Y'all have a good day...

My psychology professor was one of the scientists working at the Calico site. She was an anthropologist as well. Science is a matter of posing a question based on observed phenomenon, collecting evidence/experimenting with ideas, then coming to a conclusion based on the data whether that proposal stands up to the data., why, why not, what next? The initial evidence was certainly compelling to draw that level of academia to explore it. Much was probably learned about erosive and depositional processes, climate history, geological processes and products at that spot. I'm not convinced there wasn't human activity there at that time.

Not to be confused with a million gazillion nears ago.

There is so much complete B.S. and misinformation in this video. The name of this channel is definitely appropriate lol.

Polynesians could've navigated to California given how they improbably found Easter Island. But the fact that they could doesn't mean they did, and unless there is physical evidence the rest of the supposed links are too much conjecture. Having said that, Polynesians did make it to California...I went to the Aloha Festival in San Mateo a few years ago and stumbled upon Hawaiians ceremonially asking Ohlones for permission to come ashore and Ohlones welcoming the Hawaiians in return.

"The Establishment" stoping science because academics don't want to admit they're wrong!!

Shoutout to the Stoned Monkeys that made all of this possible...