5 Reasons why I chose Harvey over Sawstop and the competition

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In this video, I look at 7 different table saws, and discuss the reasons why I chose a Harvey Table saw.
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@michaelsqaureseverything3255 Жыл бұрын

The fly on that cup be stressing me out… but love the video

@cannonwoodworking5917 Жыл бұрын

Lol. I noticed that as well. I live in the southeast and the summers here are very humid. Thanks for the compliment and watching the video

@kennethholmes9315 9 ай бұрын

So I priced out the Harvey 3hp table saw and it came to about $2800.00. To be Farr you have to include shipping. The saw looks nice and gets a lot of good reviews. But ultimately I picked up a Sawstop. I was able to get it from my local tool store. So no shipping + if I need to take it back no problem. Couldn’t find any Harvey dealer close to me. The difference came to about $700.00 more. Also based on reviews dust collection is better on the Sawstop.

@cannonwoodworking5917 11 ай бұрын

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@Rich32262 10 ай бұрын

I've had a Harvey 2hp C200-30 Ambassador for a few years now and have been happy with it and could probably get by with it but I'm upgrading to a 4hp Harvey. The reason for the upgrade is power. There are definitely times that I have to move the stock through the saw somewhat slowly to not overwhelm the motor. It didn't make sense for me to upgrade 1hp from what I have to get a 3hp. I did the same with my bandsaw, went with a 14" 3hp and haven't bogged it down yet. Buy once cry once. Thanks for taking the time.

@cannonwoodworking5917 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching the video and the feedback. Im hoping to get a 1 year review video out here soon on the table saw. I think you will really enjoy the 4 hp motor. I love it. I cant wait to some of the other attachments like the router table.

@rickdavids695 7 ай бұрын

Recently been attracted to these Harvey videos. Everyone says how great they are except for this one thing (varies). I think I made the right choice with my SawStop. Forget the safety, well manufactured, full feature saw, easily assembled, and worked right out of the box

@alsprettycreations8005 8 ай бұрын

I purchased the Laguna F3 52" table saw over the Harvey, Stop saw, Powermatic, and Grizzly table saws. but that Harvey 4hp table saw really caught my attention over the other table saws. I went with the Laguna F3 52" table saw because at the time, the Harvey didn't have a 52" rip and I'm used to table saws with s 52" rip., so the Laguna F3 52" was my purchase. Great video, and don't drink that coffee, a fly has been crawling all around the rim of your coffee cup.

@cannonwoodworking5917 8 ай бұрын

Thank you for watching and commenting. Lol I didn't drink the coffee

@OKCFittySix 3 ай бұрын

Just received my Harvey 3HP 2 days ago. I waited until they had a "free shipping" sale. Not impressed with the way the unit was packaged for shipping, although it appears that it is all there and undamaged. Pallet was just wrapped with plastic with fence and dust collection boxes on the side (with a little crushing evident, but contents OK) and a separate box containing the rails. Nothing at all like the wooden cage that my Grizzly bandsaw was shipped in. Anyway, XPO logistics driver delivered it into my garage. No begging required... Haven't started assembly yet. Will need to go retrieve my shop crane from storage. Looks like a quality machine.

@cannonwoodworking5917 3 ай бұрын

Thank you for watching the video and also leaving a comment. I hope you enjoy the saw!

@MarioRodriguez-qm6jv 10 ай бұрын

Don’t drink that coffee

@RikoRey92 5 ай бұрын

The new one with the big eye fence is what I'm going for, it's so expensive 😭

@mickwest7918 6 ай бұрын

39:02 Maximize dust collection works on air flow - not vacuum - restricting air flow will impede the collection of the dust as it reduces the flow of air.

@imillsie426 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the detailed reasoning behind your choice. I just order the 3HP Harvey. I'm a little nervous about the delivery and needing a joist. I'm hoping i can slip the mobile cart under the delivery frame and avoid having to find a joist. I do see videos where folks manage to get the machine onto a cart. Anyway, nice work!

@cannonwoodworking5917 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for watching and leaving a comment. I hope everything works out. I think you will enjoy the table saw once you get it setup and running

@pharaohacura3618 10 ай бұрын

just slide it off the pallet onto the cart…also, you can tip it forward, lay the cart underneath and then slide it into final position on the cart…a lot of the weight is actually in the rail and tables opposite the saw blade…

@imillsie426 10 ай бұрын

@@pharaohacura3618 Thanks so much for the tips. I'm negotiating with the delivery company to drop the machine off near my garage/shop instead of the curbs which is about 60 yards away. And there is no curb where I live. Again, very nice of you for the suggestions.

@josephcincotta2557 4 ай бұрын

Got three other neighbors (all over 60 as well) to help and we lifted it off the pallet and onto the floor with no problems.

@cannonwoodworking5917 6 ай бұрын

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@lukemontgomery40 8 ай бұрын

I have looked at the Harvey 3hp and 4hp as well compared to the Jet and the SawStop. If price was not a factor at all would you have gone with any other brand or are you happy with your Harvey table saw? In 10 years will you ever look back and think you would have preferred a different model or brand? If so, what and what would be the main reason? Thanks for the response if you are able to get around to it.

@cannonwoodworking5917 8 ай бұрын

I absolutely love it! Best parts is the fence and miter gauge. The saw is very well built and cuts like a dream. It was not a cheap saw. It was a expensive purchase but we'll worth it

@mattro4902 6 ай бұрын

This review helped. I will say, that while the Sawstop is more expensive, you have to pay an additional $500 for shipping in North Ameeica with the Harvey. Other than that, I just feel like the Harvey might be better value for money. I know one thing, I am tired of researching this issue! 😂

@cannonwoodworking5917 6 ай бұрын

Thank you for watching and also for the compliment. I greatly appreciate the feedback. I'm glad the video helped you. I ve heard the shipping fees have gone up. I don't think I paid that much. It could be do to inflation and also high gas prices. I have enjoyed my saw immensely and I am looking at getting the crosscut sled hopefully.

@mattro4902 6 ай бұрын

@cannonwoodworking5917 Hopefully we get to see a video of the sliding table!

@cannonwoodworking5917 6 ай бұрын

If you get a chance you might want to check out my latest video..you find it interesting.

@cannonwoodworking5917 6 ай бұрын

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@wildpat03 Жыл бұрын

Good choice! I've owned the 2hp for about 1.5 years and it's been fantastic. They also have an awesome customer service. Best value on the market in my opinion.

@cannonwoodworking5917 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the compliment and watching the video. I really enjoy my table saw alot

@user-vc9jq4ws7k 7 ай бұрын

I had a Harvey alpha. This table saw at first I believed it was amazing. I had issues with the parts that were mentioned to keep the belt tight (a nut was missing from the factory), the dust collection didn't work well, it stayed clogged up. Trying to use the blade gard I found it created a problem with trying to rip large pieces of plywood. It would completely stop and I could not push it through. I had many other problems too. I ended up selling this $5000 table saw for $2500 just to get it away from my shop. HARVEY= 💩

@rodpotts2666 9 ай бұрын

Was wondering how much of the extra table is in front of the blade and the back ,if most is on the infeed . makes it more taxing on the back leaning over that extra 4 inches or if you even notice it.

@cannonwoodworking5917 9 ай бұрын

I can get the measurements for you. The table depth is 31.5 inches and blade is about centered on the table

@rodpotts2666 8 ай бұрын

@@cannonwoodworking5917 that would be great. Thanks man.

@captainvette2112 10 ай бұрын

Im in the market for a new saw and seriously looked at Harvey 4 HP however once you add in Harveys $500 shipping price there is only a $250 price difference between the Harvey and the Sawstop 3HP 36 and I just cant justify not getting the safety feature of the Sawstop over $250

@cannonwoodworking5917 10 ай бұрын

Ok thank you for watching the video and commenting

@matthewfenton5235 10 ай бұрын

No disrespect if it was a $250 difference Harvey would be in trouble but as of late everybody is buying Harvey. I think it might be an generation thing. Growing up if you had a finger or two that were missing or cut in half that was pretty normal in the trades. It seems like the saw stop is trying to take away the grit and mud of learning. Almost like the politically correct KZfaq "Carpenter woodworker"

@cannonwoodworking5917 8 ай бұрын

@@lukemontgomery40 actually sawstop is made in Taiwan

@gonebyrv9748 6 ай бұрын

How are you seeing a $250 difference? The Harvey (4HP) is currently on sale for $2299 + $500 shipping. The Sawstop 3HP (36" T-Glide fence retails for $3582.

@cannonwoodworking5917 6 ай бұрын

@gonebyrv9748 the prices on the saw has gone up..the last time I checked. When I bought the saw a year and a half ago..it was on sale during 4th of july

@travelwell8098 11 ай бұрын

Very thorough explanation of your decision process. But I feel like I missed something.... did you mention the price of the Harvey?

@cannonwoodworking5917 11 ай бұрын

Good point I did not realize that I missed mentioning the price. I believe I paid just under $3000 total including tax

@travelwell8098 10 ай бұрын

@@cannonwoodworking5917 ok, thanks for the response. I checked yesterday and right now the price is just under $4k.

@user-vc9jq4ws7k 7 ай бұрын

The Harvey I bought was $5000.00 and could have spent $ a lot better

@TheBrianhj 6 ай бұрын

@@user-vc9jq4ws7k the most expensive saw I see on their website is $4500 shipped. Did you buy accessories, also?

@josephcincotta2557 4 ай бұрын

Just bought the 4 Hp 52"Harvey. With Taxes and delivery (from, CA to NC) and a zero clearance insert totaled $3240.80. Beast of a machine and heavy but just powers thru a 3" Piece of Bloodwood or Wenge like butter.

@cannonwoodworking5917 9 ай бұрын

Here is my 1 yr review of the Harvey table saw kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kK2AoZuh1ru1o58.htmlsi=75KC3u2litrS6h94

@garrydye2394 7 ай бұрын

Unless you are comparing a sliding saw versus a cabinet saw ...there really isnt enough difference to make a difference if both have same power. Its s spinning blade and a fence. At this price range ...they all do the same job. You buy a sawstop for the safety feature. So comparing one saw with it and one without is a bit silly. If you want the safety feature its sawstop or nothing unless you can knock out huge money and have the space for felder.

@mark2talk2u 2 ай бұрын

The Sawstop models you priced both included overarm dust collection. Does the Harvey saw have overarm dust collection?

@cannonwoodworking5917 2 ай бұрын

Yes it does.

@baileychris1975 6 ай бұрын

Curious why you did not include the powermatic pm2000b. 3 hp motor, 31" deep table, digital readout for angle adjustment, built in wheels for mobility, 30" rip capabilities. Not to mention it weighs 500 lbs so no vibration. Current price is $4,000. Anyways congrats on your new tablesaw!

@cannonwoodworking5917 6 ай бұрын

Thank you for watching and the compliment. Also thank you for the feedback. I didn't know that table was out there. I looked at models under a certain price range. There were some videos where the owner expressed his regret over buying the more expensive PM saws. Is that saw a new version? PM just released new tools with a coating similar to Harvey

@unclecharlieswoodshop3383 6 ай бұрын

Does Harvey have a blade stop technology?

@cannonwoodworking5917 6 ай бұрын

At the moment they do not. Sawstop's Patton is expiring next year though

@fb510m 8 ай бұрын

@wulf67 3 ай бұрын

I swore for years that I would never NEVER have a Sawstop. I did not care about the safety technology, I did not like the asshole who came up with it and has been lobbying the government to REQUIRE it on all new saws, and I basically did not want to jump on the Sawstop bandwagon like almost everyone else in the world. I looked at everything and finally realized that there’s just not a better saw for the money than the Sawstop PCS. I hate to admit it, but it’s the truth. For real SCREW SAWSTOP! But they make a damn good saw.

@rainbowbudgies1129 2 ай бұрын

You have received some bad information my friend. The man who developed the brake stopping technology, first offered it “free of charge” to all the major table saw manufacturers. They all declined. They felt the increase in price they would have to charge, would make their saws unaffordable for most people and they would take a major hit in sales. He therefore decided to create his own table saw in order to put his safety feature out there; thus, Saw Stop was born. Recently, congress has been lobbied to take action toward table saw manufacturers, to develop a safer table saw due to the increasing number of user accidents which seem to be growing each year. Congress (or maybe the Senate), asked Mr Saw Stop (sorry I can’t remember his name), to appear and be questioned for his advice and opinion. The government is the entity that wants to make the braking feature mandatory. Mr Saw Stop did not push for it as far as I understand.

@wulf67 Ай бұрын

@@rainbowbudgies1129 His name is Steve Gass, and yes he lobbied and continues to lobby the government to require the use of the technology. He claims that anyone is free to use his patented technology, yet Sawstop continues to sue anyone who attempts to sell a saw with technology even remotely similar. Now that you know his name you can google it, but I have a feeling that you would rather just believe what you already believe, and not care to know whether it’s true or not. That’s how most people are.

@thewoodologist8176 5 ай бұрын

Had a harvey, upgraded to a sawstop, i mean UPGRADED! The dust collection on the harvey is a joke, if youre working as a hobbyst in your garage its fine but certainly not in a production setting. The sawstop safety feature is the biggest upgrade, people dont consider the price difference between a nic in a finger and a 50k to a 250k surgery... while everyone is comparing a few hundred bucks left or right, thats fine, its your budget because the feature isnt worth a penny until its worth 100k, a year in recovery and possibly lifelong lingering pain. Safety feature aside, lets talk about price and harveys horrible sale tactics, the price changes every other day rendering the resale value worthless, sawstops even on marketplace go for near the purchaese price, the harvey i sold i barely got half the price i paid because their sale prices fluctuated so much. I understand everyone has a budget, so get what you can afford, but i learned my lesson.

@cannonwoodworking5917 5 ай бұрын

Thank you for watching and leaving a comment

@davidhouchin2353 9 ай бұрын

Soon you might have to show how many reasons with both hands

@cannonwoodworking5917 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback. I just released a video regarding my 1 year review. The saw is a really awesome saw. Very well built. I love the fence and miter gauge