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Fun fact about the Queen Mary: the author Paul Gallico was aboard when she leaned over particularly heavily and it seemed she would never right herself. This inspired him to write The Poseidon Adventure.

The Principessa Jolanda launch reminds me of a joke: "Why does the New Italian Navy have glass-bottom boats?" "To see the Old Italian Navy."

My friend's aunt was on the Queen Mary during the 1964 storm. She said it was a terrifying experience and the passengers suffered greatly.

My grandfather was on the Carpathia on the voyage rescuing Titanic survivors. My father sailed most of WWII on Queen Elizabeth, carrying troops from USA to UK. He said they were always fully laden NY to UK but empty on the way back so she could reach full speed in her battleship grey, safe from being torpedoed. He told of troops sleeping on decks, not enough berths, and meal service being constant! Had to feed all those men. My mum was his gf through the war, so she and her sisters appreciated the goodies he brought back from NY, nylons and other items hard to get during rationing. Yes! We’re all from Liverpool! Many merchant navy families there.

After seeing Queen Mary's rolling characteristics, I really don't know how on earth she survived the 1942 rogue wave strike while serving as a troop ship.... Just wow

“She could roll the milk out of a cup of tea” A brilliant quote.

Not an ocean liner, but the 17th century Swedish war ship Vasa comes to mind. 🤦

I've got a dinner menu from the Lusitania dated Thursday, July 13th 1911. Great grandfather and another relative used to go to Scotland quite regularly in those days I guess.

I'm really glad you mentioned the IOLANDA (probably the only ship ever to be lost at her LAUNCH). So many others ignore or are unaware of her when covering ship tragedies.

The US Navy's North Carolina Class battleships had the same harmonic problem as the Lusitania. Once the ship got her speed above 25 knots vibration became an issue and increased as the ship reach her top speed of 28 knots. The solution was to change the propellers which only moved the harmonic induced vibrations to a different speed regime. However the vibration issue was now at a speed that would be unlikely in normal cruising or battle, around 18 knots.

I have to say, I massively enjoy these maritime engineering channels, but this one has one of the most charismatic hosts. Just the right balance of personality, history, and shipbuilding education is going to have me binging these videos until I decide to go on a cruise someday. Then I will be forced to take a "Maritime Disaster Sabbatical".

Great video. Propeller cavitation seems to have been a problem with just about all 4-screw express liners. Mauretania, Lusitania, and Normandie are the ones that generally come up, but most of the big, fast ships grappled with it to some degree. Normandie's vibration problems improved with a new set of 4-bladed props, as did Mauretania's, but neither ship was ever completely vibration free. Speaking of the magnificent Normandie, she had an issue with rolling nearly opposite to QM- the great ship would roll a bit, then snap back to the vertical with a violence that would send things flying about... Still, these were great ships, imperfections and all. To Queen Mary's credit, though she came to within 3° of capsizing when broadsided by a nearly 100' wave, she did come back up again, and got the 15,000 bruised, bloodied, but grateful troops she carried safely to their destination. 🚢Always a pleasure to watch a new video from Ocean Liner Designs!

I have to say that I really enjoy Mike’s videos. I came across them a few days ago and I’ve been binge watching them since. They are truly fascinating. As someone who grew up near Belfast I’ve always been fascinated by the Olympic class liners and Ocean Liner history. I have to say Mikes videos are educational, accessible and really professionally put together. this channel has fast become one of my favourite transportation history channels. Just wanted to say Thanks for another great video

Another great one Mike! Thanks, you made my day! It's not too surprising Lusitania (and Mauretania) had vibration issues. High-speed propeller design was still pretty much in it's infancy and there was still much to be learned. Still, if you had to get across the Atlantic quickly and you didn't mind a bit of a rough ride "Lucy" and "Mary" were the way to go.

Each nautical flaw has helped in developing safer and more comfortable vessels, but human folly can still cause tragedy occasionally. Thanks for fascinating footage, Mike.

One of my favourite design issues is the SS Bessemer, an attempt to build a ship with a swinging internal cabin, to combat seasickness. Great idea, unfortunately the swinging of the internal cabin affected the motion of the hull and caused it to thrash wildly, driving it into Calais Pier. Twice.

Note: The Tacoma Narrows was not due to resonance (as is commonly stated) but due to Aeroelastic Flutter. Basically the wind interacting with the bridge would provide negative dampening to the bridge, and at high enough speeds this would overpower any positive dampening the bridge had, leading to an every increasing torsional oscillation.

Nothing better on the day after my birthday than watching a new Oceanliner Designs video :)

Mike - I think I'm becoming addicted to your informative, well-presented videos. You are doing great work!

Thanks for making this video. 15:12 I directly asked this very issue back in your "Titanic Head-on Collision" video. I appreciate you answering my question there and addressing this detail here for others to better understand as well. I hope there's a part two to this. You covered some big names here, but there's surely even more design flaws on less well-known ships.

Well done. There are a lot of candidates out there, ship launching fails being a recurrent KZfaq theme, but you picked an interesting variety, well presented.

SS America played a role in the opening credits sequence of Bernardo Bertolucci's The Sheltering Sky, as newsreel footage of its first crossing of the postwar era following a huge blizzard in New York, carrying the young adventurers John Malkovich and Debra Winger. The whole sequence of midcentury New York was a beautiful introduction to a fine film. The short funnel smoke issue also plagued streamliner locomotives that had full faring. Laminar airflow was not a good thing. When I was a young pup I had the privilege of crossing Puget Sound on the Kalakala ferry, which was also notorious for its vibration problems. The story of the Kalakala (former Peralta) has lots of idiosyncratic technological and historical details that Mike might be interested in.

The "Rolling Mary" must have *incredible* restoring force designed into her. Regarding the Titanic... Mind you, it was mainly the _press_ that threw the word "unsinkable" around. It probably didn't help Titanic in her scrape against the iceberg that apparently, in order to better facilitate hand-riveting (because the hull-crawling riveting machines decided to balk during her construction) the rivets used were slag-rich and thus more vulnerable to shearing in a scrape. Correct me if I'm wrong about this.

I’m a simple man, I see a OceanLiner Designs video, I like the video and watch it through its entirety

A similar incident to the one mentioned 19:19 was the HMS Prince of Wales when it sunk in 1941 while being in an air attack was hit near the port most propellers shaft by a japanese torpedo and started taking on water also the propellers also cause further damage to the battleship and was difficult to turnoff as the damage also took out the controls which contributed to her eventual sinking.

The Great Eastern had a bit of supernatural folklore attached to it. In fact, it's the origin of the 'workmen walled-up in the hull'-ghost story.

Poor ole Jolanda! I had never heard this story and what a tragedy, it feels like the lessons in "the race to launch" even far back as 1907 that's 79 years until the Challenger incident, we learn nothing, I think now sharing our knowledge on platforms like this contribute so much to prevent similar occurrences. Great job Mike! a new subscriber today already love the Channel... Good Job.

This channel has such a weird specific niche topic. I love it

Absolutely loving this '5 ship' series Mike, keep doing 'em!

I read a Queen Mary account in "Captain of the Queens" where the former captain and commodore of the fleet described an incident within a French harbor some time after WWII. There was a storm and he began to move the ship out to weather it, as I recall. The anchor snagged a WWII era cable and she began to swing out of control, blown hard by the wind. He ended up going to full power in an attempt to stop the stern from grounding but the ship still struck hard enough to be felt on the bridge. I believe he said the very stern at the bottom of the ship was filled with concrete as a repair, and seeped water ever afterward. Harry Grattidge, Captain of the Queens, excellent read I Highly recommend the book. As an aside, it would be interesting to know if that concrete is still there, because that would be really bad if it is. Concrete, steel and seawater do not mix well.

Can't tell you just how much I enjoy this channel! You put a lot of info into a short video and manage to make every second of it enjoyable. Excellence in content and presentation! As we say here in the States: You da Man, man.

This was so interesting and very well done . Thank goodness the Queen Mary 2 is incredible in an atlantic gale and hardly rolls at all.

My grandparents sailed on Queen Mary and Queen Elizabeth several times. My grandmother told me about one rough crossing around 1950 or ‘51. They were in the lounge before going down to dinner and the ship was hit by a wave causing several sofas to rip free of their anchors and roll across the room. She also told me how the ss United States would bounce in rough weather and rode rough weather very differently than the Queens which would roll.

I like how classic yet art deco the Queen Mary is and I think she and the lusitania show how strong and rosileont cunard liners are.

Mike - your videos show immense research, informative narration, and striking visuals. All good, but there is another important detail - the high quality of your voice in narration. In simple terms, you are very easy to listen to, and that is icing on the cake. Well done.

Maybe the Lusitania invented twerking.

Thank you, Mike, for another informative, superbly edited and entertaining video. Your narration is excellent, as always! 👍

Nice personality, knowledgeable, cheerful face, pleasant voice.

Metacentric Height. First thing that came to mind. Not an ocean liner (although the lakes do get violent) the poster child for metacentric height issues has to be the excursion vessel Eastland. To capsize at the dock in the Chicago River.

Not sure I'd count the last one as a design flaw, more of a 'someone really didn't think this through' flaw. 🤣 Also, I guessed three of these before watching the video - from watching your OTHER videos (QM, Lusitania, Titanic). I'm very much looking forward to getting one of your frankly amazing drawings (RMS Olympic). You do excellent work, mate.

NGL, I'm a bit surprised that the S.S. Imperator didn't make this list since her claim to infamy is that she almost NEVER stood level in the water. This was due to the excessive amount of marble furnishings HAPAG (Hamburg-America Line) had installed onboard without ever considering if such additions would make the ship top heavy. Of course this issue would earn the ship perhaps the most roast worthy nickname of all time, *"Limperator"* .

Michael your channel is truly awesome and you deliver the information like a seasoned champ; it's as though you have a historical presents to you, as well as a genuine authenticity.

Happy to have just found this channel. Very informative and entertaining, keep up the good work!

new Oceanliner design video in my notification bell, I know it will be a good day

Love your work, a lot of research and very informative.

Your videos are so therapeutic. Keep up the good work

An exceptional insight into the world of early ocean liner design, I learned a great deal, thank you very much. Not an easy subject to convey to a public too much preoccupied with other and very different things., Brilliant, well done..............

Another great video! I wish the best if luck to you!

Germany's Europa had to raise its funnels as well.

Great narration, tons of information. Overall, a very enjoyable watch.

Good Timing. I was taking a break from hours of learning. Thank you

The Queen Mary was used in the movie The Poseidon Adventure. Also the writer of the book Poseidon Adventure based on the Queen Mary due to a rogue wave hitting the ship pretty hard

Another great video! I didn't know the America originally had shorter funnels (My grandfather sailed aboard her during her WWII trooping duties.) The Bremen & Europa also were designed with very short funnels that had the be raised.

Another fantastic video! Thank you Mike!

Another fantastic video by Mike Brady ! I never knew the America's funnels were originally shorter.

Hi Michael great vids mate, proud of you! It's good for an old sea dog like me to see a young bloke like yourself taking a massive interest in the subject and you certainly do know your stuff mate! I had a great interest in ships of all types from an early age, in my teens (in the 60s and early 70s) I spent a lot of time in Southampton photographing Passenger and Cargo ships it was my hobby I loved it, I now live in Australia but I remember those halcyon days when ships were really interesting! I just missed the Mary but saw and photographed the Queen Elizabeth (my joint favourite of them all the other being Caronia of 49), I saw the QE2 in 69 being prepared for her maiden voyage (Problems with her Pamatrada turbines) I was there on a harbour tour boat for her maiden departure for New York on a very rainy day in June 69, I still have the slides! It seems like only yesterday! I joined the merchant navy in the early 70s as a Junior Engineer I did about 10 years getting up to 3rd before emigration to Aussie in 1981! Still love ships, Thankyou for you great vids and info Mate! Cheers!

Nice video Michael, as always. Bravo! I'm just not sure if I would include the Jolanda in this list, as rather than a design flaw of the ship itself, it was more of a launch flaw. A testament to this was Mafalda's relatively good service life, although she was slightly modified after the capsizing of the Jolanda. Also note, the Jolanda and Mafalda were built and commissioned by the Lloyd Italiano (Yellow funnel with Italian tricolour), not the Navigazione Generale Italiana (Black funnel with white stripe). Mafalda would eventually join the NGI fleet and due to sheer lack of maintenance and incompetence by the NGI, become absolutely unseaworthy. NGI insisted she completed her last voyage before being scrapped, which led to her tragic sinking.

I am really enjoying your channel, you tell the facts in a smooth easy way and all the sort of facts about these beautiful ships and their very sad diastaers or the general design, workings and indeed failings that I like and want to know about. Really great work, can't wait for the next.

Really enjoy your work Mike.

In contrast to the Mary, her rival the Normandie was described as a sharp, snappy roller!

OMG. I knew of the Principessa Iolanda, but didn’t know about Principessa Mafalda’s tragedy.

Thank you for taking the time to create these.

Oh wow, I've been binging your videos for the past couple of days as I have to study so of course here I am procrastinating but the content is super enjoyable, just now noticed and was surprised that your channel isn't bigger. Great quality, narration, everything. Keep it up man!

Love your videos, Mike. It’s funny you mention Queen Mary and her rolling, as author Paul Gallico was inspired to write the 1969 novel “The Poseidon Adventure” after a voyage on Queen Mary where she almost capsized. How prophetic, then, that she was used as SS Poseidon when they made the movie version in 1972.

Thank you. Your video is well done and informative. I’m happy to have found your channel. Keep up the good work.

Another excellent video, good job!

I love the engineering details behind all the design flaws - such great research and presentation in these.

Not an ocean liner but the great lakes steamer Eastland disaster is a fascinating story on how not to design a ship.

Another winner. Thanks, Mike. You're the best!

Love your videos. Thankyou for sharing

Just found your channel love your videos about titanic and the engineering that made it work especially the video on how it was steered I was always curious how that worked and you did a real good job of explaining it I also wondered about the galleys on Titanic and how they served all the classes of people on the ship do you have any videos about that thanks Mike for posting all you do

This makes Gibbs' achievement of becoming a naval architect without any proper real training all the more impressive.

KZfaq algorithm with a rare massive W... This is unique, incredibly well made content.. Seriously. Excellently done videos man. I hit subscribe about a minute in. Keep up the good work!

Love your videos. Full of expert knowledge of a bygone era. Thank you.

Terrific episode, I didn't know that about the Mary. There was a German ship as well (I think), they offset the funnels to one side for more space on the decks but it created a list because of the weight imbalance. They cut the funnels shorter and did some redecorating inside to correct but it never fixed it. I can't find the name but it'll come to me

Agree with you about America. She was perfect after the new funnels were installed !!

What an informative channel! Absolutely wonderful content. Thank you very much, I enjoy every video. Keep up the good work.

Sir you are the best Ole Soul on KZfaq! Love your content and knowledge!

Can you maybe do a video about the .S.S. Rotterdam? It is my favourite ship and i would love to see a video about her. Keep it up and amazing video as always!

Sometimes we can all feel like an SS Principessa Jolanda…

Good Content in a fashioned Way, Keep up the great WORK!

These are great videos. Thanks!

I'd like to see a similar video focusing on operational failures, like how the ferry Harold of Free Enterprise never had a specific process to ensure the bow doors were closed prior to leaving port.

Great video can you do a video of the Sheer and Camber deck and explain how they are measured.

*Exceptional work, Kudos!*

Great video and great narration. Thank you Mike for posting this interesting and informative video.

The millennium bridge in London also had resonance issues. When it opened in 2000 it was notoriously wobbly and had to be shut. I'm assuming by the late 1990s they had computer modelling etc, so just goes to show... Best made plans

I've always been fascinated with history but I found myself stuck on your channel for quite a while I just want to say thank you for your work and I appreciate what you do! Please excuse lack of punctuation, I don't have a lot of time at the moment.

I really enjoyed this vid! Fascinating details. My sis is getting married on the Queen Mary in Long Beach in Sept 2023. I'm super excited to explore it. Staying the nite on the ship as well..... Still looking for a date haha

Your style of presentation is second to none!

I've always thought too that the Lusitanias longitudinal bunkers hastened her sinking.

I've also read that movie producer Irwin Allen had been aboard the "Rolling Mary" when during a storm she rolled as far as 40 degrees, which inspired him to later use her in his classic "Poseidon Adventure"

Fantastic video, very enjoyable.

Your videos are so neat!

Still love those older ships. They at least look like ships. I have stayed on the Queen Mary when it was a hotel. Beautiful thing. The QE2 vibrated on departure from New York. We were outrunning a hurricane. Once clear , they reduced speed and we had no more vibration. Personally, I prefer long ocean voyages. 14 days from Southampton to Capetown by Union Castle liner was great.

I find it crazy that Queen Mary’s rolling was so bad that it inspired the book and movie “The Poseidon Adventure” in which a ship is completely capsized by a tidal wave. Pretty crazy!

Outstanding tour !

Love the video as always

Your channel must of been promoted because I found one episode in my recommendations. And I loved how you put together your content. And for some reason a British accent is very pleasing to me. My neighbor and older woman (we are both American and from NYC) says she has trouble understanding the words. We watch a lot of BBC TV here because a lot is now being streamed to America. I actually signed up for Britbox & PBS. So we watch a lot of British shows. There are some British accents that are harder to understand but I suspect its a Welch accent and not British. But I should get back to your content. I like how you made the Titanic interesting again. I thought I knew most about it. But you have brought new details. And I am starting to watch your other postings. Thanks and Good Luck! Rob PS Wait are you Australian? Which I did visit Australia back in 1997