HAPPY HOLIDAYS EVERYONE!!!!!

The way “it serves ZERO purpose” came out, felt like you were gonna go on a LTG rant on the Stomp.

The thing I love the most about competitive fighting games is when people take the worst characters/builds and focus on solely playing and perfecting them

Fun fact, the developers of this series openly despise Tsu Hao. It makes me wonder exactly how deliberate it was to give him a bouncing pink projectile that is largely worthless lol.

Loving that Fighter's Destiny music. Very underrated n64 game.

My brother will never live down our UMK3 sessions, especially because he, in a moment of panic at the end of a particularly close match, busted out Stryker's "formidable" baton sweep....and ate a hefty uppercut for his troubles to end the match

Ha, forgot about Hsu Hao's bouncy ball. It's like the creators knew how much people disliked him, and wanted to humiliate him further.

Poor Hsu Hao, he was such a good character they had to give em some horrendous moves to make sure everyone doesn't flock to him too much

Poor Sub-Zero, they clipped his wings and left him to die against the broken monsters of MK9 😔 I actually remember his EX Ground Ice reset before it was patched, he had some amazing combos with it! Funnily enough his reset wouldn't even make him top 10. Cyrax and Smoke would still be way better, yet they *BOTH* keep their resets and he doesn't 💀💀💀💀

Not sure if it’s quite as bad as these as it’s been a while, but I remember MK9 Ermac’s slam being awful. The float itself was decent because you could do air blast or air teleport out of it instead, but the actual slam was awful. It was unblockable but it was SOOOO slow and punishable on hit, even from far away iirc. Even funnier looking at MKX Ermac’s slam which is super good, despite being blockable in that game.

Funny that in the Hsu Hao stomp footage, Nitara is also seen stomping and hers is much faster on startup.

Honestly surprised you're not mentioning Scorpion's Teleport Punch in MK1, as it may not work half the time.

Hsu Hao deserves 2 bad moves 😂😂😂. Vogel and Boon hate him and they probably put very little effort into his moveset in Armageddon.

I'm not sure if that was intentional, but a video on awful moves starting with Sean doing Tornados (which are unsafe on hit) is pretty amazing. On subject of awful moves in MK, there was also Kabal's Saw Blade in UMK3. In Vanilla MK3 it was exclusively used after a Spin Dash for high damage combos, but UMK3 nerfed this by disabling Saw Blade in this specific instance, leaving the move without any real use case.

Is there a reason why Hsu Hao's wind clap or something isn't in the list? The video shows it a couple of times, and I can't help but notice how minus on hit the move is. Opponents straight up recover faster than Hsu Hao lmao.

Good video. I wish you did some honorable mentions. There are a lot of bad moves in the series that its hard to name just 5. Scorpion's leg takedown in MK2 comes to mind. I'm talking about the final version, not the infinite in version 2.1.

I KNEW baton sweep was on this list. I'll never understood why devs make moves unsafe on hit.

The only time I ever attempt to use Baton Sweep is for a finishing meme moment and if I've got a ridiculous lead. It's just insult to injury to be honest. But it is pretty funny to pull off😂

Players: "Hsu-Hao is awful!" Also Players: [spams jump stomp and bouncy ball]

I’m happy to see Hsu Hao in anything. Even if it’s discussing his awful projectile and stomp❤️

Look at my boy Hsu Hao. Where's that Comp History? 👀

wow, I literally was saying during the intro "Sub-Zero's MK9 ground freeze sucks" and then you open with it lol

the pointless transition to the exact same hsu hao footage was REALLY good

The real reason people don't use Baton Sweep is because it's punishable on hit

07:15 this is proof that the devs hate Hsu Hao more than anything 💀💀💀💀

Skarlet's blood ritual in MK11. Y'know, the move with terrible startup and recovery that does more damage to you than your opponent. Can't even be used when they are almost dead because it takes forever to start damaging them

Raiden Rolling Thunder from Mk11 is an honorable mention, its so fast it travels at the speed of human evolution!!

Love your content especially these competitive top lists. Gives a taste of the competitive of any game while also looking at why certain things function or don't.

Loved this, hope we see a follow up "5 more weak specials" or maybe a "5/10 worst/weakest specials" in each MK game.

4:21 the only reason you'd use it is for the hilarious knock down sprite lol

Somehow knew that Hsu Hao would make the list in some sense. But to make the list twice? Even Stryker wasn't THAT bad. I say this, knowing that he made the list with the Baton sweep in UMK3, though at least it was slightly better in MK9. ... I wish Stryker made another appearance & was actually VERY viable in the competitive scene of today.

As someone who does like Hsu Hao, I have to say...his special moves are unfortunately mostly terrible lol, I like his Khan Clap (fun fact: Khan was part of his original name) and in DA I actually really like playing as him, but I really don't understand what they were thinking with the stomp and especially the sorry excuse for a fireball he has in Armageddon...he literally has *2* different projectiles that are way better in that game 😆.

Hsu-Hao is definitely the worst, but the idea of a bouncing projectile could work in the next MK. Pretty sure the comment section would give you ideas for part 2, as for me, I could only say Jade's glow in MK9 but then again I think it would be best to find a competitive viable character with a bad move in particular than a mediocre bad with a bad move among other stuff.

I didn't even know Hsu Hao had that projectile. But now that I've seen it I'm like ''OMG! THAT'S SO CUTE!!''

Was sure Kabal sawblade from mk3/umk3 would be number one

I glanced away, looked again to see SF footage and felt the greatest confusion since i discovered numbers below zero when i was five years old.

If the stomp was unblockable and had a bigger hurt box, it would be great. Too bad.

Happy new year! Great to see a new great list for a new good year (hopefully).

7:20 channeling mrgstar321 here

A lot of the moves in mk Vs DC barely worked half the time even lately some inputs just don’t work 25% of the time

The whole time you were covering Shao’s taunts I was checking off the box with Havik’s having the same draw backs until you get to the part about them eventually just not working 😂that definitely puts Shao’s over Havik’s

Thanks for always uploading straight fire. Been watching you guys for a while now and it's cool that i get to talk to my dad about mortal kombat and even educate him on some things he didn't know. Keep it up K&M

Waited for h2o boost from mk9, but ridicule is good pick too

Happy new year dude! Can't wait for the "Top 5 Most Broken Moves In MK History" video.

I have been enjoying the competitive history videos. I was to young to understand competive mk when I started and it’s super interesting learning about the old games in a new way. Knowing what ik now about like frames and advantages it’s just so intriguing not to mention all the teq that just passed my mind. I never thought classic mk and the 3d mks where ever even competitive games played in tournaments I thought nrs introduced that and I’m gladly mistaken.

Went full lowtiergod rant on the Hsu Hao stomp and I loved every second of it. 10:00

Hsu Hao is more of a danger to himself more than the opponent

The fact Hsu Hao's "BOOTY HO!" is his worst special makes me sad.

Hi PNDK&M! I was wondering if you'd be interested in making a video with the history of characters who were really good early on,but nerfed into mid tier,or bottom tier.

I am convinced Hsu Hao's bouncing projectile was just meant to be a funny Mario reference, considering his hat.

I'd be interested in a video talking about the banned specials in MK11.

Omg.. Fighters Destiny soundtrack ! I love that game, they should remake it.

This is a video about how the developers at NRS doesn't know how to balance a move or their games in general.

Hsu Hao might be the funniest fighting game character ever made due to how lame and easy to hate he is.

Terminators Exoskeleton special move in MK 11 it’s such an awful move lol

I know it was yesterday but happy new year I love your content I am 14 and I wish I could of had the chance to experience the feeling of buying the new umk3 but that aside hope you have an amazing rest of your day

Honorable mention: Rain lightning in MK Armageddon. It never catches the opponent because it's too slow.

Even Shao Kahn not being a great character in MKD, I still wish he was in the XBox and PS2 port of Deception. He's such a cool character to have in Deception's roster, one of my fav roster in any MK

Is that Fighter's Destiny ost? 🎉

Surprised to not see Scorpion's Leg Takedown from MK2 on the list.

Huh, I never realized Sub Zeros ground freeze got nerfed, I remember being excited about finding that out. But I never played much Sub-zero after I got good with Kabal and Raiden.

Hsu Hao. The leather Daddy version of Kano

Fighters destiny music in the background I love it lol

The Baton Sweep should have just been Stryker's leg sweep animation.

I literally did forget the baton sweep existed until this vid pointed it out 😆

Honestly Sub didn't even need the reset in MK9. The clone was a great weapon in that game as is. The Hsu Hao moves though lol those seemed useless in serious gameplay. Though I would compare Ermacs Deception projectile to Hsu Haos bouncey move. Its so slow on start up and this silly swirley thing lol 😆 its nothing like UMK3 fireball, MK9s or MKX's.

One fighting game I think about when involving bad special moves, is JoJo's Bizzare Adventure: hftf. Dio in that game for example, is a fantastic character but has so many god awful specials.

The first time the Kombatants had crappy moves was in MK1. Midway did a bad job at censoring the graphic fatalities.

Just want to give a shoutout to the music from Fighters Destiny! Rarely, if ever, hear about that game

If i'm that scorpion at 0:53 I'd be so mad

Quan sky drop ? Mk gold had a few specials cough cough that were absolutely butt chips

I like how he dogs on the Baton sweep but is showing clips of it working more often than not😂

I love your videos but I really like your intro 😅🤘☯️ Perfect music lol

Dairou his star from his foot. 🤣

Honest question -- what's Trailblazer? Which game is that from, and who has it?

What UMK3 are you running? Looks very clean and crisp. Arcade Kollection or MAME?

do a top 10 worse mk blows, then put mk deception's baraka's hop in number 1

Wait, what? There are people who actually like Hsu Hao?

would be interesting to see, super broken moves that are stuck on the absolute worst characters

Striker club sweep can go under Smoke/ Scorp spear 🤷‍♂️- if opponent has low enough health it can be worth a use

Whats the music used at 4:51?

You missed the actual worst one, Quan Chi’s weapon steal in mk4

Hsu Hao for MK12

...is that Fighter's Destiny (N64) music in the background???

They tried with HSU HAO to create a shodo off kano it didn't work out well enough lol

Great video epic music too

Love the fighter destiny music 😍

Baton Sweep also has a very long recovery...

Stryker's sweep is indeed horrible, but it's still ""OK"" to use to kinda swag on the oponent when you have way too many frames in advantage or just want to finish them off. From Mk3, I think Kabal's Saw Blade is an even worse move.

I remember that in MKX in the Gunslinger variation for Erron instead of the pocket sand which was handy for combos he got a sand vile that hits low. But you need to spend meter to make it usable in a combo (which granted turned into a launcher) and the start up was really bad if you wanted to use it in neutral. At that point he's better off using the coin shot if you wanted a projectile

Question. Would you consider Shao's taunts bad in Deception, BECAUSE it has such a laughable effect to it? Whereas if it was just the taunt, with absolute zero effects and existed exclusively to taunt the opponent. (so in theory, a worse version) Would it even be up for discussion as a "move"?

Says there is no situation for the baton sweep as Stryker wins the round with it while they’re both on danger level 😂

Come on ... we know that they put those moves for Hsu Hao on purpose ... the developers hate him and they admit it

Hsu Hao is an example of a 3D era character who's design, and moves make no sense. He's supposed to be a cyborg wrestler, but has no special command grab, fights like a baby, and throws in DA are blockable which completely negates the point of having throws. Then in Armageddon he no longer has his command throws so what was the MK team even thinking with this character? It showed why the 3D era characters are often forgotten about outside of Kenshi, because the 3D era characters either have weird, or terrible movesets that ruin the character. The thing is I like Hsu Hao when it comes to his unique weapons, his cyborg grappler design, and his decent fatality, but he needs to be redesigned to be more like a grappler which is never going to happen.

Man I wish Stryker was on the roster for X and 11

I honestly think that Quan Chi's buff from MK9 should be on this list; It's on Shao Kahn's Taunt level of uselessness; Stryker's baton is more useful IMHO.

The Battin Sweep

No mention of Scorpion's leg takedown in MK2? That move is laughable.

What move would it be for mkx? I was thinking either quan chi skydrop or maybe predator stealth. Might just be those sticking out cause the chars were so strong despite having some of these terrible moves.

Hooray! Love these videos.