Its crazy how sometimes Bruce is depicted as a flawed, but overall good enough father, and other times hes depicted as an abusive sociopath. Who lets people write him like this

There's one moment from the "Son of Batman" animated movie that I thought for sure would be on the list: Batman: "Heads up" *tosses shuriken directly at Damian's head *Damian catches it Batman: "Good reflexes" Damian: "And what if I had missed?" Bruce: "It would've hurt..." Bro!

I was expecting things like “neglect him” “beat him up” “abandon him” But the first thing was “He let deathstroke drown him”. 😂😂

Damian Wayne: Exists. Batman: "So anyway, I started blasting."

omni-man: refuses to kill his son after he realizes that he has an actual bondage with him batman: *injures damian to near death* "lol u suck"

Needlemouse sounds like if he was Batman’s father telling him that he’s a bad dad 😂

"He's a terrible father" -NeedleMouse Productions 2021

He treated his adopeted children better than his actual child. What a power move.

Honestly the worst thing ever done for Damian is just his writers my boy never have ANY justice of writing him.

Damian actually had Dick who loved him truly as a brother. Despite of the accidental death of Dick by Damian, in Injustice: Gods Among Us (the animated movie one), ghost-mode Dick called Damian “Little brother” sweetly when he offered Damian help to fight Damian’s grandpa. Dick was always there for Damian too.

I’m surprised you didn’t mention Batman’s speech to Damian about how he “really” felt towards him in Apokolips War. Granted, he was under the control of Darkseid but still, hearing that from your father still has to hurt a bit

You started to sound really dad like at the end 😂😂

I swear though, these actions that Batman takes against Damien (while some a little deserving) feels like the writer for Batman isn’t really following the ideals and decisions of Batman, the canon character.

Don’t worry, Bruce Wayne has money so nothing is really illegal to him.

People have to understand that Damian's the way he is because of all the bad influences. Bruce, Taila, Ra's, and being Robin. Really he seriously deserves so much more cause it's sad, he's always demonized even when everyone knows his life is trash.

I feel like most of these come down to bad writing and just wanting to create conflict. Batman should love all of his robins especially Damian and do everything in his power to help him live a better life. My favorite story with the two is in Batman and Robin Vol 1: Born to kill. As Bruce struggles to connect with Damian and just wants to “fix him” and Alfred tells him that he needs to be the boy’s father and not his mechanic. Also there’s a great scene where Damian is captured by “Nobody” and Batman basically looses control and damn near kills him for threatening his son, proving to Damian that his dad does indeed feels vengeful and angry sometimes too and how much he has to keep that anger in check (pretty much what Son of Batman was trying to say but never actually showed)

Originally the sex between Bruce and Talia that conceived him was consensual.

I gotta disagree with you about the Injustice part. Yes Batman did blame Damian for killing Dick Grayson. However later in the story he did try to forgive him, but Damian wanted none of it. Sure Batman could’ve tried harder, but he did try.

I'm starting to think that Damien Wayne is Needlemouse's favorite robin

I do like Damian in most versions, but I hate him in the injustice universe. EDIT: In fact I don't really like that universe in general.

5. Had him

honestly batman would be an ok dad if the writers actually wrote him as a dad not fighting his kids and smacking them lol

I agree. While Damian did kill Dick and it was his fault regardless if he meant to or not, Batman should have tried to patch things up with Damian instead of disown him. If Dick can forgive Damian, Batman should try to as well

9:45 I like how Nightwing pulls Damian’s cape over his face and starts punching him😂😂😂

It's really hilarious that the world's greatest detective really thought that a 12-year old kid could reach into a guy's chest and pull out his heart.

Actually sending him to the temple was the most fatherly thing he could do he took his youngest boy out of the fight so he could truly learn the way of peace. Damian’s main problem in those movies was the fact that he only knew the way the chaos/conquest and was way too eager to inherit the highest ranking mantels of his family.

Watching this just makes me feel more sad for Damian. In injustice, I cried when nightwing died and I loved how dick was able to forgive him even in death, aside from Bruce and Alfred, he’s always there for Damian. Also from JL: AW after being pushed away he’d still take a bullet for his father. He was more victim than he ever was, but kudos to needlemouse on this video.

I just imagined Needlemouse as Alfred scolding Batman for not being a good father figure to Damian

He does have Dick Grayson who actually loves him as a brother

In number #4: it also goes with saying that even tho Batman was being mind controlled, it was still pretty messed up for him to tell Damian that he was never his son, but instead only a burden

Damian Wayne has a father. His name is Dick Grayson.

I have noticed that, in Batman vs Robin, when they fall through the glass roof and Bruce realized they were going to hit the statue, he grabs Damian and shields him from hitting the stone statue, which could have broken Bruce’s back, but Damian is to distracted by everything else going on to notice this action. It seems Batman cares more about protecting Robin then himself but, he doesn’t go about it the best way for any of them, and even if they’re physically unharmed there are still mental scars. Bruce isn’t even remotely close to being best father but at least he tries, at least when he’s not fight crime dressed as a giant bat. I don’t think Bruce really knows how to deal with his own trama healthily, what bad about that is he taught his children his unhealthy coping methods, Damian is the worst in this sense because one way he learns is by watching those around him, being raised as an assassin for 10 years in a place where emotions are likely seen as a vulnerability then living with his father who shows little to no emotion most of the time, it’s easy to understand why Damian is the way he is if you’re willing to take the time to try.

Two moments I can think of are both Bruce unfairly disowning Damian the first time this happened was after Nightwing's death in the Injustice universe despite the fact Dick himself who by this point became the new Deadman(DeadWing) himself forgave Damian including giving him the Nightwing outfit, and actually confirm that his death was a accident, the 2nd time this happens is when Damian quits being Robin and becomes Redwing after the events of Joker War basically after Damian quits being Robin and becomes Redwing Bruce disowns both Jason, and Damian over their willingness to kill the criminals who deserve it even though Damian states that unlike Jason aka Outlaw he'll only consider killing as a method of last resort Bruce still disowns Damian simply cause Redwing is willing to consider killing as a option of last resort.

Damian Wayne: *exists* father.......please do your job and be my father Bruce Wayne: *ignores damian* Dick Grayson -in bludheaven-: why do i have the sudden need to complain about the thermostat and make bad puns and ruffling everyone's hair while calling them sport?

9:49 "Loving parents" Jason's parents were drug addicts. His father died in prison, and his mother overdosed. And Stephanie Brown's dad is the Cluemaster. (Edit: Don't take this comment seriously, I was trying to be ironic and funny and I failed. Sorry)

No 1. Didn't send him to the orphanage

Five worst things Wolverine has done

Your wrong about the last one Tim and Dick had loving parents who truly loved and cared about them Jason family hated him from birth hell he was sold out by his biological mother to the joker and his dad abused him so he and Damian both have bad childhoods

This was needed

Good thing he didn't take his pants. -Dick and Jason

Batman doesn't kill Joker who's done so much to him, the family, and essentially the world in Injustice in hopes of being able to help the man but is so quick to disown his son over one accidental kill? Batman is way too flawed for his morals to be put on a pedestal by fans and writers

It's true Batman is a terrible father, not just to Damien but to the other robins too.

Talia was very wrong to force herself upon Bruce. That’s one of the reasons I like Catwoman, and I know she’s got nothing to do with Damian, but I’ll respect any talia supporters.

*Contains Spoilers* If people have read City of Bane, Damian's run of the Titans, the Lazarus Island arc and the Shadow War arc, you'll agree with the fact that no one other than Alfred and Dick have cared for Damien. Bruce never even bothered to celebrate his birthday like ever! The arcs I've mentioned above have led to the best Damian Wayne arcs in recent comics and make you want to smack the living s**t out of Bruce and Talia (Bruce way more so than Talia). Rather than comforting Damian after a changed Ra's's death, he nonchalantly blames him for Alfred's death (which was actually kind of Bruce's fault in the first place). At one point in the Lazarus Island arc, you literally see him admit that he has known very few things other than misery. It actually reminded me of broken Matt in Daredevil Season 3 who begged the random thugs to kill him.

And let's not even get into what Talia did to him.

This got me thinking. What if Billy batsin new why his mom didn't come find him. I mean having to grow up knowing that one minute you and your mom were having fun at a carnival then the next she's like "nah I don't want this child" and leaves you...like that would've taken a serious toll on his mental health! And i feel the same would probably happen to Damian if he was a normal kid. But yeah I always thought Bruce was a not-so-great father to his kids.

It would be cool to see Damian be Red hoods apprentice

Don't forget how Batman roasted the hell out of Damian before fighting him in Apokalips War

I honestly relate yo Damian alot more than i thought my dad has always treated me as a daughter but sometimes he can be really cold to me to the point he doesn't seem to recognize im his daughter. I lost my mother to cancer last year i had been doing online for 2years yo be there for her wt home and seeing her in pain really hit hard. Im 13 and i now have to be a mother figure for my 5 year old baby sister and my dad seems to forgot ive been just watching my mother in pain without being able to help much. That shit took alot of processing in my brain its been barely 3 mo ths since i lost her and i dont know why but i always talked to her so ahe wouldn't be just laying in bed al the time now when i turn to talk to her because I want yo see how she doing i keep forgetting she passed and i randomly imagine shes there and talk to her. I honestly just keep forgetting that she passed and just think she went to the store or something and sometimes I am waiting for hours while doing online and then it hits me and i just end up going through her videos shed recird of my baby sis i even forgot her voice

I wouldn't exactly say Jason had loving parents

Does anybody else feel like Needlemouse would be a great dad?

9:49 Jason Todd: are you sure about that

Damien is a trained assassin that had an established history of throwing Dick's baton at him when he was frustrated or annoyed. He just got use to Dick always catching it. Unfortunately, given THAT particular set of circumstances, he doesn't get to say killing him was an accident. Now if it was Bruce (because of his cowl being armored), Jason (same reason) or literally ANY super human, that would be one thing. But against Dick, who NEVER wore a helmet aside from when he was impersonating Bruce, he doesn't get that defense. That's like Kazuya trying to kill Heihachi all his life only to throw him in that volcano and then say "Oh shit!"

I mean isn’t Batman vs robin about Batman trying to trust Damian enough and try to have a father and son relationship. True the ending of the film was a dumb idea but should the film be about Damian trying so hard to earn his fathers trust.

Keep it up on your work and this channel

As much as we love batman… nobody ever said he would be a good father… how many kids did he take in to basically hunt down psychotic murderers? Lmao thats all he knows so he’s just passing down his traits

When he said talk to them, I swore he said torture them I nearly died lmao

Batman's partner argument thing might *sort of* worked if said partner was an established adult who he trained specifically to get out of situations like being captured like Dick or Tim. The issue here is that this partner was *his own damn son* and he decided to NOT rescue him. Geez why do some writers make Bruce the worst father on the planet?

You forgot to mention how The Batman Who Laughs turned his damian into a pet mini-joker after gunning down the bat family in his world.

Batman disowning him for killing dick was reasonable but sure it was accident he still need to learn self control And it even worst that he joined Superman

To be fair, Damian was raised and trained by the Demon Ras for 10 years. Jason O Mara was such a great Bruce Wayne, it’s a shame Warner Bros replaced him after the newest flash point.

9:44 Actually, I think an argument can be made that Jason had a worse childhood. He was brought up in a home filled with drug addiction and abuse. He committed crime from when he was really young just so he can survive.

jasons dad died and his mother was stuck on pills and jason lived on the streets so jason got it hard to as a kid.

Needle Mouse please cover one with Jason Todd because he's another one who's miss guided

“It’s to talk to them and deescalate the situation” Oh so like *THINK DAMIAN*

I love your KZfaq videos keep up Theodore work👍

I really want to see a batman story where he is a capable and responsible father, or at least one who is trying to be.

Love your content

You should make a video talking about everytime hal Jordan has worn a different ring than the green

Keep it up on this channel

I reread the injustice comics and I learned that Dick Grayson convinces Batman to forgive Damian and he does try to patch things up.

He didn’t send him to live alone he sent away to a school so he can learn

“At least all the others had loving parents and a life” Jason Todd laughing in Crime Alley:

if my child was a trained assassin and he hit me….we’re fighting.

Jason see this he would be like "well I will have a chat with that old man soon."

I love the background music you use dk why it goes with your videos

I won't lie, I feel like had batman just given superman a hug instead of pulling the red solar grenade at the beginning of Injustice 2, he might've been able to stop him, or reach some sort of a breakthrough

A child has no control over the circumstances of their birth thus they cannot be blamed for anything that happened. They didn't choose to be conceived but they were and the parents have a responsibility to take of that child or make sure it has a decent life. That means doing what's best for that child and Batman fails real hard at that lemme tell you. At times he can come off as a good parent but overall he ain't good.

Nice video

I dont usually like to ask requests but I think an interesting video could be "5 worst things Amanda Waller/Cadmus has done"

Awesome and cool!

Keep it up on this video

Batman is a better father in Harley Quinn as a joke than he's normally portrayed and that's kinda sad

I think the worst thing was not send the kid to therapy Damian since birth has been trained to be a killing machine put through physical and mental trauma seen things that no adult should see let alone a child raised in basically a ninja cult have his own mother and grandfather endorce this life style and force him into it becoming a social out cast by normal standards and eradicating any chance for him to live a normal life the second Batman got a hold of him he should have sent him to round the clock therapy and rehabilitation there's no way he's mentally stable one of the first things we see him do is go out and cut the head off a guy like it was expected of him he has by far the worst childhood of any of the Robins maybe of Sidekicks in general

5. I mean he had a bomb to take care of and as you guessed he assumed damian could take care of himself and is way more likely to be able to defend himself more than normal citizens.

Don't give up and never give in

Hi I am a big fan good video

"Your parents died and left you Bruce. What's your excuse for not being a father?"

Could you do a lantern corps video on the main starwars hero’s since you’ve done the villains Love your content

Will you ever do a metamorpho video? Dude deserve some love.

"I know that he... troubles you, but he's here. And you need to get over the how and the why. Trust me on this -- this boy needs his father." - Bruce Wayne This is word for word what Bruce Wayne said to Clark Kent in order to get him to Man of Steel up, and work things out with Superboy in Season 1 of Young Justice. It's a shame the other versions of Bruce Wayne couldn't have taken this attitude with Damian; excluding the Bruce Wayne from The Brave and The Bold of course. I honestly didn't realize how similar Damian Wayne and Young Justice Superboy were to one another until I started rewatching Young Justice. Both of them were created from the D.N.A. of superheroes who did not give their consent, they were both given top notch educations, they were both conditioned by evil people, and they were both brought up to be living weapons. Granted, Young Justice Superboy is exponentially more likeable and sympathetic than Damian in many regards, but they both struggle with father figures, and they've had a hard time finding themselves. I honestly think that these two could have become great friends if they ever met. Although, given their tempers, they may try to kill each other on a few occasions. P.S. Did anybody see the costume Mal Duncan was wearing in the episode "Secrets" by any chance? He was dressed like the '90s version of Superboy. Mal told Conner point blank, "I'm Superman done right." Just seeing Conner's reaction was priceless.

Batman is a bad father for reasons that make sense: He lost his own father while young, so never really learnt how to be a father from his own. Batman is; by nessecity due to being Batman, emotionally guarded and closed. Inherently bad father traits. And then you have the fact that every time he sees Damien; he's reminded of the fact he was drugged and raped which... yeah. You can totally understand *why* Batman fails as a father.

Somewhat early.

"He is his father. And as such, Batman should not be hitting his son" Batman did more talking to that kid and it didn't work. Damain only respected fighting and bloodshed. He considered talking to be weakness. His grandfather is Ras Al'Ghoul. What kind of talking could stop Damian from being a brat? The only reason he started to calm down was because he started spending more time with Grayson - whom Damain also fought and also threw the first punch. He started to calm down AFTER fighting the 2 of them. Talking didn't do squat.

I think it’s because he’s been Batman for so long and after failing all three robins, he has to do the opposite of what he did for them or that’s what he thinks Long story short he is more Batman than Bruce Wayne

I don’t know who he did worse with Damian or Jason because both of them did not have a good childhood before Batman took them in.

Unrelated to the topic, but I’d like like to see you cover the additional powers of Super Strength and/or Telekinesis.

So you going to do some stuff on the mortal Kombat universe or considering the fact it looks like we're getting a four-part series

6:45 had me dying why he say it like that “He can be so annoying at times”🤣🤣 Also 7:32. “What the hell 🤣

Batman is actually a very tough hero to love. Doesn’t kill any villains that do the worse to him/family. Doesn’t do anything for his son and treats him shitty (even tho I really don’t like Damian Wayne). Doesn’t do shit for Jason Todd and even protects joker from Jason. But I can’t help but loving the character.