6.4 MSQ Continued - "The Dark Throne" | Endwalker Stream

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Part Two: "Lunar Rendezvous" to completing "The Dark Throne".
0:00 - Pre Extra Moon Hang
57:56 - Doghouse Giveaway Details
1:15:00 - Review Matters
1:32:04 - Important Moon Business
1:52:48 - Red Moon Business
2:25:20 - Flashback
2:47:17 - The Voidcast Dais
3:16:33 - Dragon + Arm
3:35:15 - Oval Office
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@Eruvadhril
@Eruvadhril Ай бұрын
It was vitally important to Hydaelyn's plans for her to give all the Lopporits a praise kink.
@maik5201
@maik5201 Ай бұрын
Durante calling Golbez "my friend" , being blonde, obsessed with his friend to the point to wanting to eliminate a entire world... sounds like a refletion of Zenos xd
@Amovetv
@Amovetv Ай бұрын
Yoooooooooo
@ArtficialFlvrz
@ArtficialFlvrz Ай бұрын
It's hard to say what Garleans even are. They seem to not exist at all in the reflections, at least not that we've seen, so it's possible they came to exist some point after the sundering, which could've happened at any point over the 12000 or so years. They have souls obviously, so they could be reborn ones that can be traced back to the ancients, like most people, but everything about them is so unique to them and so unlike everyone else.
@NajaSide
@NajaSide Ай бұрын
I remember all those theories about how one or the other might be a reflection of either him or us...
@KawarrenD
@KawarrenD Ай бұрын
Hm now wait just a minute...
@otomeheart
@otomeheart Ай бұрын
A blonde swordsman obsessed with his Friend - an unvoiced Hero who communicates via nodding and fist-clenching.....
@natebroadus8474
@natebroadus8474 Ай бұрын
I love that the FFXIV writers remembered something I think most people forgot. When Zodiark died on the Source, his aether dispersed on every other reflection--except the 13th, where nothing can die. This whole time they were beating us over the head that nothing can die in the Void, but surprisingly I didn't see anyone predict Zeromus. That's why Golbez was going on and on about now being the time to put the plan into action: he had to wait for us to destroy Zodiark on the Source, so his aether could be dispersed on the 13th. Only while it rejoined the great flow on the other shards, it had nowhere to go on the 13th, so it coalesced and waited to be merged with another voidsent (which is why Golbez wouldn't let any other voidsent into his domain on the moon). Azdaja was just a happy accident--a being turning voidsent that desperately wanted to return home to the Source. The writers really impressed me with the post-EW patches. Doing it like this with no huge breaks in-between lets the story shine.
@ChrisMajors
@ChrisMajors Ай бұрын
Kyle out here just completely owning the glam vibe of "Curious George's keeper and the Savannah Bananas guy had a love child, somehow".
@Lagzlot
@Lagzlot Ай бұрын
The red moon theme "Another Moon" sounds so much better than its' snes/gba versions when it no longer sounds like two balloon animals fighting.
@TaurusVersant
@TaurusVersant Ай бұрын
I truly love how much the remnants of Nidhogg cause Estinien to talk to dragons in the exact manner Nidhogg would. To the degree even Azdaja, hearing Estinien speak one (1) sentence, clocked him as Nidhogg-kinning. It's befitting for the one who was firstborn of the First Brood, elder brother to every dragon of this world, to act that way to every other dragon he meets. And that spirit carried on into Estinien.
@TaurusVersant
@TaurusVersant Ай бұрын
As for dragon shapes and why they all look so wildly different, do Ehll Tou's custom deliveries
@ryujin8754
@ryujin8754 10 күн бұрын
Wasn't Bahamut the firstborn of the First Brood?
@TaurusVersant
@TaurusVersant 10 күн бұрын
@@ryujin8754 hmmm I was strongly under the impression Nidhogg was eldest but now I can't find proof of that, it seems I am wrong
@dalthorn
@dalthorn Ай бұрын
Aether being unable to disperse on the 13th *should* mean that this is the only shard where something like Zeromus can happen…hopefully.
@Amovetv
@Amovetv Ай бұрын
I like the weight of that “should”.
@shadeblackwolf1508
@shadeblackwolf1508 Ай бұрын
That Should is doing a lot of heavy lifting there. It assumes that no shard has managed to do something crazy, like, suck out all his aether into a giant auracite tower.
@OathOblivio
@OathOblivio Ай бұрын
The Dragon's language is actually a fictional language created by the FF team. It has an alphabet, grammer, and everything. It's what the choir sings in the Heavensward music. It's not Latin, it's actually Dragontongue
@bakashinobi42
@bakashinobi42 Ай бұрын
As a superFF4 fan, there's a lot I could chime in about, but I most enjoyed how ya'll wiped to the trial and seemed to get more excited :D
@Amovetv
@Amovetv Ай бұрын
This. Fight. RULED.
@serisothikos
@serisothikos Ай бұрын
I loved Golbez so much in both normal and extreme. It's the sort of fight that really rewards how observant you've been over the course of your adventure, and listening to the two of you hash out one of the most complex non-extreme trials was super fun.
@Gassy555
@Gassy555 Ай бұрын
Vod squad
@ProfessorBinks
@ProfessorBinks Ай бұрын
idk if anyone else covers this, but its explained back in Heavensward that a Dragon's appearance is a reflection of the environment in which they grew up. Generally speaking, the First Brood grew up in various different locations on the planet, hence them looking different.
@NajaSide
@NajaSide Ай бұрын
Ah, I had no idea about that? I thought I had heard that their adult physiology was more decided around what their role as an adult would be and how their form would essentially adapt to fulfill that role.
@ProfessorBinks
@ProfessorBinks Ай бұрын
@@NajaSide their form/appearance does adapt but it's not in relation to a "role", it's so they can thrive in whatever environment they're in, and they change over time
@PhantomSinger1
@PhantomSinger1 Ай бұрын
@@ProfessorBinks From what I remember of one of the custom delivery NPCs, their form is shaped by what they prefer doing as they age. One of the Encyclopedia Eorzeas even has a handy dragon growth chart. If they prefer walking, the legs become stronger and the wings may eventually go away entirely. Favoring flight can lead to the legs going away. The first brood was raised together for ??? long so it makes sense for them to have the same body shapes, but the unique colors and horns may be so the players can tell them apart more easily. White, feathers, and rounded features is a VERY different dragon to the black and aggressively spiked one.
@RockR277
@RockR277 Ай бұрын
Man, it's so fun watching you guys do these trials blind. There are just so many times where I go "oh no, he has no idea what to do with this" and it's just great.
@vicarsol9954
@vicarsol9954 Ай бұрын
Garrett not being into Sea Shanties explains alot about his 0/3 FISHLESS Plungepuller behavior.
@medekhgui
@medekhgui Ай бұрын
3am is just right at that time that's too early to wake up, too late to stay awake. Golbez's voice-actor is so damn good.
@kendric99
@kendric99 Ай бұрын
I've missed the individual videos a bit, but I'm enjoying the hell out of your super stream month. Can't wait for the finale of Panda tonight, and you to see where things go in 6.5 next week. Thanks for always being awesome and hilarious. You two are the best!
@lsschwartz
@lsschwartz Ай бұрын
When my days are busy, and I can only sneak in sporadically. I love filling in the missed content while working on a jigsaw puzzle or running roulettes. :)
@migurusu-saint9160
@migurusu-saint9160 Ай бұрын
Respect to Kyle for the chad moment in the middle of the trial. Getting that ast A game on. As a fellow ast i salute!
@mr.mystere4999
@mr.mystere4999 Ай бұрын
You guys are lucky. We had to wait 4 months to find out what happened next. Ya'll get to find out Tuesday.
@bewaretheteddy436
@bewaretheteddy436 Ай бұрын
LOVE seeing you guys cook on this stuff. Nearly there in time for DT! Kyle I overcooked the same stuff about limbs across the shards, don't fret for a second dude!
@RazzBerrieCharm
@RazzBerrieCharm Ай бұрын
This fight was my first current trial and I loved it! Took me weeks getting a hang on it on normal... Tried EX and it was such a wake up for me. Made me realize my skill issues. Still haven't cleared it, but its fun!!
@harenmelan
@harenmelan 28 күн бұрын
Dragons evolve over time based on their experiences/environment. This actually comes up in a custom delivery questline.
@anangrydruid6990
@anangrydruid6990 Ай бұрын
I adore the EX for this fight. It made me realize how good the sound design is with attacks having slightly differnt sound effects as tells for stuff with the same name
@AdamisAwesomeish
@AdamisAwesomeish Ай бұрын
another time coming back from a moon saying "sooooo something happened with zodiark"
@ChrisMorray
@ChrisMorray 28 күн бұрын
I like to think the past Golbez's voicelines being unvoiced is an implication that they're Azem's fragment of the Thirteenth. Past Golbez was "the best of us", praying for the unrepentant, trusting and with a heart big enough for more.
@limontree476
@limontree476 Ай бұрын
I have a theory on why dragons all look so different. As shown in Ultima Thule, dragons lay their eggs in aether rich areas and the lack of aether resulted in mutated forms, so my theory is that the amount and types of aether an egg absorbs effects how the dragon will look. This could also explain why different dragons have different elemental aspects. Nidhogg was fire and dark based but Hraesvalgr is ice and light based for example.
@siyrean
@siyrean Ай бұрын
the moogle crafting quests go into dragon lore and how they choose their appearance.
@UltaFlame
@UltaFlame Ай бұрын
Dragons evolve and change as they age, becoming more unique the older they become.
@FF-tp7qs
@FF-tp7qs Ай бұрын
The Ehil Tou custom delivery quest in the Firmament as well
@silverneb
@silverneb Ай бұрын
Congrats on clearing my favorite trial this expansion, enjoyed the cooking!
@kisaragireion
@kisaragireion Ай бұрын
You guys are right! Gomez extreme is definitely one of my favorite fight. Challenging, satisfying, and stylish if you pull them off just right
@cparle87
@cparle87 28 күн бұрын
1:34:30 Smart robots. 1:57:08 Under the most relentless of attacks. 2:09:50 Is this the first time we've heard Vrtra speak dragonspeak? 2:14:25 Time for Estinien, Dragon Therapist tm, to strike. 2:17:25 No, dragons produce asexually. By exerting their life force they materialize eggs. 2:35:55 Ahh sheet, it's Vanaspati all over. 3:04:59 Everyone forgets about the follow up aoe. 3:14:12 "Garrett is once again on the moon asking where the does this story go from here." This killed me. 3:26:55 An oh no indeed. How often have we had to straight up run away from a foe and come back to confront it later in another patch? 3:36:50 Zero's character development is so wholesome.
@aradow18
@aradow18 24 күн бұрын
I swear there's something out there that translates at least portions of the Draconic speech. Someone did an analysis for the dragons found in Ultima Thul and how the language was expressing their despair along side the translation we get as a player talking to them. I wish i could find it!
@vigo2669
@vigo2669 Ай бұрын
Yeah I can def see Golbez normal being rough on min ilvl.
@NatyaVT
@NatyaVT Ай бұрын
I mean... I realize Kyle has a bone to pick with Y'sthola over this but her going "Perhaps..." is usually the team surreptitiously reminding us of things we should know but might have forgotten. In this case, that the 13th's Moon *should* have a reflection of the Watcher and the Loporrits. Which we know it *did* because they showed us an image of Golbez striking the Watcher down. Yeah she's speculating but she doesn't have that information, unlike us. It's been what though... six months since we saw that still image, nine? I can't say I blame them for reminding us that it happened.
@NatyaVT
@NatyaVT Ай бұрын
Also Zodiark's aether on all the other reflections returned to the lifestream when we killed him. The Thirteenth shard is the one exception because of the nature of that world. Since the lifestream (aka the Aetherial Sea) no longer exists or at the very least does not function on that world, the Aether has nowhere to go so in lingering it coalesced into an entirely new creature and became Zeromus instead.
@Lordwhizzkid
@Lordwhizzkid Ай бұрын
1:32:00 "Someone is trying to cover this up so they can get the sample back to the home planet! Who do you think it could be Backstabbingway?"
@Junebug89
@Junebug89 27 күн бұрын
I think Midgarsormr did just grab some eggs and head across the great expanse. I have a feeling that was revealed somewhere in Endwalker maybe. Not totally sure though.
@pedroscoponi4905
@pedroscoponi4905 Ай бұрын
This was the first patch I caught on release day and MAN was it a good one. I should do the Golbez Extreme one of these days...
@NajaSide
@NajaSide Ай бұрын
Shockingly 'the wheel' Golbez calls out is just not a reference at all! It's just him repeatedly calling out the cycle of being unable to die and how miserable it is to him. But I do agree that he brings it up a whole lot. It seems like it could've been referenced in some cutscenes and maybe in his transition cs for memorability rather than an attack he repeats so frequently.
@siyrean
@siyrean Ай бұрын
my favourite theory is that Durante is Zenos reflection and that Golbez is ours. Basically a world where we were actually friends. the first patch trailer many people thought it was Zeno's voice and there's been so many Zenos flashbacks when talking about friends... edit: also Estinein x Y'shtola think about it
@Raijin-RyuX24
@Raijin-RyuX24 Ай бұрын
I’m upset with myself for missing this stream. But full glad the VoD exist. I don’t have any friends to tag for your giveaway. :/ that’s unfortunate. Good luck to those who entered.
@shadeblackwolf1508
@shadeblackwolf1508 Ай бұрын
vacuity, from the same root as vacuum and vacuous, means basically "nothingness"
@Tucarius
@Tucarius Ай бұрын
Nobody in the thirteenth can die. The salvation they speak of is allowing people to return to the Aetherial sea.
@rajabuta
@rajabuta Ай бұрын
Estinien only knows one way of encouragement. Pissing people off. Worked with tiamat. Got called out by Azdaja 😂😂😂
@Khemrikhara
@Khemrikhara Ай бұрын
You know honestly the Golbez trial, as far as normal trials go, is very good.
@Mr.Sequiro
@Mr.Sequiro Ай бұрын
"Plainly" Dumbledore said calmly.
@moodudable
@moodudable Ай бұрын
suggestion for gatherings at the beginning of the streams (if possible) lalafels standing with only head pop out at the bottom of the screen and do squats
@CrashB111
@CrashB111 Ай бұрын
"We all wanna die! We're ~~Meeseeks!~~ Voidsent!" - Golbez
@IgneousP
@IgneousP Ай бұрын
My brand!
@clumsyturtle8544
@clumsyturtle8544 Ай бұрын
Voidcast EX is probably my favorite extreme from EW imo Barb is a close second.
@FalcisUltima9
@FalcisUltima9 Ай бұрын
idk why people thought zero would turn into zeromus, she made me think of Cecil immediately and the flashback sword and shield are dead giveaway tbh
@Stad122
@Stad122 Ай бұрын
1:56:17 Now I cant get the idea of a bunch of Arnold Schwarzenegger voiced Lopporit counterparts on the 13th.
@NekoBatyx
@NekoBatyx Ай бұрын
YOOOO DUNGEON MESHI REACTIONS LETSGOOOOOO Peak cinema 🖐😐🤚
@RockR277
@RockR277 Ай бұрын
Hey Kyle, do you have a cat tower for Carth near your desk? If not, might be useful. He could be near you without being on you.
@lordturtlemonk
@lordturtlemonk Ай бұрын
I really tried to find when the did the quest stuff in the First but I don''t... think it was recorded?
@RockR277
@RockR277 Ай бұрын
I believe dragons reproduce asexually, and can grow into numerous different forms, though I don't know exactly what influences that process. A dragon's child can grow into a completely different type. Edit: Ah, the people have brought up the asexual reproduction.
@seraphiv3
@seraphiv3 Ай бұрын
there is an interesting custom deliveries NPC whom is a dragon and it eventually goes into that they change forms to adapt to their environment as they grow, which is why we've seen dragons with wildly different forms from Turtle like to Feline like.
@RockR277
@RockR277 Ай бұрын
@@seraphiv3 Ah that's right, I should rewatch those cutscenes.
@seraphiv3
@seraphiv3 Ай бұрын
@@RockR277 it's pretty neat lore, that i think only shows up there too. which is wild.
@katmeerkats
@katmeerkats Ай бұрын
No one cared until i put on the yellow
@patyos2
@patyos2 Ай бұрын
I think when people say the patches has no connection to Endwalker its more so that all the connections are of FF4 lol
@789654123654789
@789654123654789 Ай бұрын
If you are curious about dragon biology, I am sure that the MSQrator can point to some side content, plural, that goes into more detail.
@michaelmahoney1320
@michaelmahoney1320 Ай бұрын
My hottest movie take; Kingdom of the Crystal Skull would be a fine movie if it wasn't an Indiana Jones movie.
@iantaakalla8180
@iantaakalla8180 Ай бұрын
What is the 0/3 fish meme? People bring it up as a synonym for “you failed this thing”.
@Amovetv
@Amovetv Ай бұрын
We didn't sell any fish in the Endwalker quest when you have the potential of selling none, one, two, or three fish. It is our eternal shame.
@crunkulouss
@crunkulouss Ай бұрын
that ninja throwing doton on golbez constantly grinds my gears doton is for aoe only its a loss on single target >:(
@KMCA779
@KMCA779 Ай бұрын
I got to ask, what is that FF9 Bahamut mount in the preshow?
@DoSp02
@DoSp02 Ай бұрын
Without rewinding I'm going to assume it's the one holding the chair? You get it after collecting the EW extreme mounts
@progamer-weeb
@progamer-weeb Ай бұрын
why is there this idea that people who don't enjoy the patches dont enjoy it because it doesnt relate to endwalker? lol
@Amovetv
@Amovetv Ай бұрын
Mostly I'm just joking because heading into this I saw, on more than one occassion, comments saying that we need to adjust our expectations for this patch content. Multiple times I saw it referred to as "filler" which I interpreted as meaning it did not connect to what came before it (ARR-EW arc) or lead into Dawntrail. Which I now find amusing cause this feels very much connected.
@progamer-weeb
@progamer-weeb Ай бұрын
@@Amovetv Ahhh okay. That makes more sense. I took the 'filler' complaints as a step down in quality compared to normal MSQ patches. Mostly because it IS a trial series put into MSQ.(not that the content/story isn't amazing just not the same level) I can see how 'filler' could be interpreted as not connecting to past/future stories tho!
@luchts4547
@luchts4547 Ай бұрын
while I have a twitter i never use it and don't have friends on there, hope it's cool if i just tagged elon musk
@RoastBeef-cr8iz
@RoastBeef-cr8iz Ай бұрын
I'm not sure how much more plainly they could have explained it 🤔
@ogrimbothesour2976
@ogrimbothesour2976 Ай бұрын
regarding?
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