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Fausto Ferreira

Fausto Ferreira

11 ай бұрын

The History of iOS is still very short, but lately things have been moving faster than ever, for musicians.
Let’s check who are the main responsibles for that, starting with this comparative review of some of the best iOS Electric pianos on the App Store, and comparison with some not so accomplished ventures.
Apps on this review/comparison:
Legacy: IK Multimedia iLectric; Gospel Musicians Neo Soul Keys
More recent or new: Acoustic Samples VTines; Ape Soft Electric Vintage; Gospel Musicians Neo Soul Keys Studio; Korg Module Pro; GSI Genuine Sounds Vol.1; UVI BeatHawk; crudebyte Colossus Piano ( yes, they also have an EPs pack ); StudioLogic Numa Player; Gospel Musicians (again!) Pure Synth; KLEVGR. Tines; Moddart Pianoteq 8
The Apps are not on review here, just the sounds that matters, only EPs, mostly dry for more accurate sound and playability analysis. The more relevant Apps will get their one detailed review.

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@GospelMusicians
@GospelMusicians 8 ай бұрын
That playing sounds really good at 26:00. Thanks so much for the support and shot-out!
@FaustoFerreira
@FaustoFerreira 8 ай бұрын
Thanks! And... Wow, coming from you guys that really means a lot to me!!!!
@jamietopolski4019
@jamietopolski4019 Ай бұрын
AudioThing just released "Wurly" so it is time for another great comparison video.
@FaustoFerreira
@FaustoFerreira Ай бұрын
Thanks. Wurly is really needed. I'll check it out
@no_sl303p
@no_sl303p 2 ай бұрын
I've been a big fan of Neo Souls Keys 2 for a long time but Pianoteq really knocked my socks off when I first played it.
@FaustoFerreira
@FaustoFerreira 2 ай бұрын
Welcome to the club!
@kamranhamidfar1725
@kamranhamidfar1725 4 ай бұрын
When I play the piano at a coffeehouse to sound like you, I move my mouth like you in the hope that the piano sounds like yours. But it wont work. You are amazing. Thanks for your uploads
@FaustoFerreira
@FaustoFerreira 4 ай бұрын
😂😂😂Thank you very much! 😉
@peterdahl-bredine7315
@peterdahl-bredine7315 10 ай бұрын
thanks!!…a really great look at these instruments. would love to see something like this for wurlitzer pianos (the beathawk one was nice!)
@skinnyTheCat
@skinnyTheCat 2 ай бұрын
Your Improv around 30 min is beautiful! Thanks for great video on the different softwares!
@FaustoFerreira
@FaustoFerreira 2 ай бұрын
Thanks! Stay tuned, its time for some updates
@madswellejus
@madswellejus 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing. Great work
@FaustoFerreira
@FaustoFerreira 7 ай бұрын
Thank you! Glad I can help.
@paulcooper5880
@paulcooper5880 10 ай бұрын
Really enjoying your channel, maybe some playing tutorials in the future giving us your secrets 😀
@FaustoFerreira
@FaustoFerreira 10 ай бұрын
Thank you Paul! Maybe one day, but for now, I will explore more this reviews line, and continuing with my private lessons.
@filotest3093
@filotest3093 10 ай бұрын
Great review, thank you!
@FaustoFerreira
@FaustoFerreira 10 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@brandoncrenshaw
@brandoncrenshaw 10 ай бұрын
I love vtines! I just wish they gave you the full 88 note range. Also, you should try the Upright in Numa Player & Pure Synth Platinum. Probably the best pianos they have.
@FaustoFerreira
@FaustoFerreira 10 ай бұрын
Agree about VTines! Iknow Numa Player and Pure Synth Platinum Uprights, have them and tryed them. They are character pianos, probably good for specific situations, but very limited in the dynamic range, considering distracting or badly implemented velocity transitions, filtering, release samples, inhability to go from pianissimo to fortissimo in a smooth way, or inhability to get a fortissimo dynamics. As a producer resource they might be usefull, but as a pianist instrument, they are out of my list.
@kjshalfjkhd
@kjshalfjkhd 11 ай бұрын
Ansioso para o próximo. Ficamos muito mais seguros para investir nos apps com suas análises. Parabéns!
@FaustoFerreira
@FaustoFerreira 11 ай бұрын
Obrigado! Fico mais seguro para continuar com o seu comentário!
@voytecgrobor7576
@voytecgrobor7576 11 ай бұрын
Greetings. Great shoot out! About Pianoteq it is true, it is out of competition (I have the standard version). On the other hand, I do not cross out Colossus so much. MK1 reminds me of my old Mk2 when it comes to hand-dynamic ratio. The MK2, on the other hand, is a mistake in the layer of greatest velocity. The sound is like that when the tine touches the pick-up. Badly adjusted instrument! Similarly, GSI - a tone with a defect. I am also puzzled by the relase in Korg. It seems that iOS apps are an add-on product. Tines are an interesting choice for layering. Thanks, great work!
@FaustoFerreira
@FaustoFerreira 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for joining, your input is precious! Agree with you with everything. Played with severall Rhodes in my life, but never had one myself. They are all so different from each other, that's why I think it is a good idea to have a wide variety of emulations available. However, "baddly adjusted instruments" are tolerable to a certain degree, depending on how bad it is. I know I'm a release freak, but take the example of Nord keyboards: among other things, they where the first to offer proper and well balanced release simulations, for acoustic and electromechanical on hardware instruments, it plays a bigger role on sound perception than most people realize. Wrong positioning of samples according to velocity is also something that kills the relism on an instrument: take the example of original korg Module EP, MF samples on P velocity and a sudden jump to the "barking velocity" are not acceptable anymore. On Colossus, it seems that you have a combination of all the bad things possible on some intruments. I agree, and I state this on the video, MK1 is still usable in certain contexts, the plain samples are good, but all the other electromechanical have so bad problems, they are not even worth considering.
@TheIvoryman
@TheIvoryman 3 ай бұрын
I must say, the Wurlitzer in BeatHawk was the best sounding EP of the whole bunch!
@FaustoFerreira
@FaustoFerreira 2 ай бұрын
It is in fact a beautifull Wurly sound!
@oslekyios
@oslekyios 2 ай бұрын
hi! how about a review of electric piano patches in Logic Pro Ipad :)
@amitev
@amitev 11 ай бұрын
Dear Fausto, thanks for sharing this precious review! You literally opened my eyes to the world of VSTs (so far I was playing only with the built-in sounds of my digital piano). I would like to gain more knowledge on how to use the tools. On 3:41 you show an app that you use to switch (open) between the VST apps (or are they called plugins?). What is the name of this app? Do you plan to do an educational/introductional video for using VSTs on iPad? What iPad version are you using? I have an iPad 10.2 (2020), where Garage Band is working okay. Would it be enough to run more advanced VSTs like Pianoteq or Ravencroft?
@FaustoFerreira
@FaustoFerreira 11 ай бұрын
Thank you! The app is called Camelot. It's a powerfull Audio Units manager, specially for the stage. In iOS you don't have VSTs, you have Audio Units ;) And yes, more videos will come, about DAW's and much more
@amitev
@amitev 11 ай бұрын
@@FaustoFerreira thank you very much for the answer! Are there such apps, that would allow me to combine (so to say) multiple "Audio Units", so that for example I could easily change the unit through a connected pedal to the iPad or to split the keyboard and have one Audio Unit on one side and other on the other side? As already mentioned, I'm trying to explore how far the software instruments could go in replacing a stage piano/keyboard.
@tonylancer7367
@tonylancer7367 11 ай бұрын
This is a wonderful video and you are an excellent and very knowledgable player, I didn't think you'd get into such details of the different velocity layers. I love electric pianos, but I like the 80's style (silky, smooth, bubbly, you can eat it with ice-cream type sound, Al Jarreau, Jay Gordon, George Duke etc.) vs. the 70's style (rough, barky, aggressive, no-nonsense), but to be fair, they probably just added chorus in the 80's to the electric piano. If I could rank them, it'd be 1. VTines, 2. Scarbee+NeoSoul tied because they are both good, but NeoSoul passes Scarbee very slightly because it can get aggressive if you want it to. Anyways, let me watch the other organ video! 😄
@FaustoFerreira
@FaustoFerreira 11 ай бұрын
Thank you very much! It's true, in the end it's difficult to select an absolut best. They all have faults, but they all find they way to specific situations. But VTines its probably the more versatile, tweakable, less faulty and better adjusted of them all.
@1970piano
@1970piano 11 ай бұрын
Maybe it’s me, but i find the VTines sounding nice and authentic, but it barks not enough if you grab in. It doesn’t cut through in a live mix if i am soloing in the upper ranges.
@FaustoFerreira
@FaustoFerreira 11 ай бұрын
That's why it is dificult to chose the absolut best. Take iLectric for example: one of the earlier and simple of the bunch, no noises or release simulations, correct effects but limited, but cuts through the mix in live context like a samurai knife!
@abolit
@abolit 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. BTW what app are you using for switching pianos/synths starting at 31:30 (big colored rectangular tabs) ?
@FaustoFerreira
@FaustoFerreira 3 ай бұрын
Thanks! I'm using Camelot Pro. Check my other video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bJd8qcxh3paYkn0.htmlsi=9brEgVe5Ew-gEUJw
@abolit
@abolit 3 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@user-fy1ev9xe4b
@user-fy1ev9xe4b 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for great review. I have one question. What host app for vst plugin do you use in this video. I want to switch vst app by finger touch.
@FaustoFerreira
@FaustoFerreira 3 ай бұрын
Thank you! I use Camelot Pro. My other video might help you: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bJd8qcxh3paYkn0.htmlsi=10SdFEnuMkQozmbH
@BrianKabalaMusic
@BrianKabalaMusic 11 ай бұрын
Great video! I used iOS for live performance as well before I got my Nord a few months ago. There are some things I miss about my iOS setup that the Nord can’t match. Now I just use iOS as an aux synth. Vtines definitely was my favorite, although the low end would bark at low velocities so I created a split with neo soul keys and it worked great. I hope acoustic samples makes more iOS apps someday. The one sound that I could never find a satisfactory app for was Wurlitzer. The best I could do was tweaking neo soul keys samples a ton, which was pretty good but not realistic enough. What’s your favorite Wurlitzer app?
@FaustoFerreira
@FaustoFerreira 11 ай бұрын
Thank you! I had the same path, of course the Nord works very well, but if you take the time ( and money ) you can built iOS setup that can be even more powerfull and better sounding. About the Wurlitzer, the Nord is very good, but did you check the BeatHawk wurlitzer? ( 20:00 on the video ).
@BrianKabalaMusic
@BrianKabalaMusic 11 ай бұрын
@@FaustoFerreira yes I did see the beat hawk Wurlitzer and tried it for myself, but it doesn’t have the exact tone I’m looking for. My favorite is the Keyscape Wurlitzer. I think if acousticsamples makes VReeds on iOS that would be the best by far.
@FaustoFerreira
@FaustoFerreira 11 ай бұрын
Yes, Reeds are usually baddly represented, in iOS even worst. That's why I highlighted the one in Beathawk. Very specific but realistic. Try it with an amp simulator, and some external effects, through AUM, Audiobus, Camelot or a daw like Cubase or Logic Pro. Or try the Pianoteq 8 iOS. Playability is great as allways, but they have to work better in the moddeling.
@jamietopolski4019
@jamietopolski4019 10 ай бұрын
Did you try the Wurley EP in Korg Module Pro?
@BrianKabalaMusic
@BrianKabalaMusic 10 ай бұрын
@@jamietopolski4019 Yes, I am really not a fan of the base Korg Module, and I did try the Wurlitzer expansion. It just felt artificial to me. It’s probably accurate to a specific model of Wurli but I am looking for more of a Donny Hathaway tone rather than Supertramp.
@SLHkeyboards
@SLHkeyboards 5 ай бұрын
I think the Rhodes sounds in Pure Synth Platinum ("Suitcase Expansion") are a scaled down subset of what's in Neo Soul Keys Studio 2, yes?
@FaustoFerreira
@FaustoFerreira 5 ай бұрын
Not sure. If it is, it still works pretty well!
@BlackAndWhiteBand
@BlackAndWhiteBand 4 ай бұрын
@@FaustoFerreira Please forgive my ignorance, but what is that unit on your desk to the immediate left of your iPad, and what does it do?
@FaustoFerreira
@FaustoFerreira 4 ай бұрын
@BlackAndWhiteBand Universal Audio Volt 476. A simple but high quality audio interface, used here as a pre-amp for the microfone that's capturing my voice. Check this to learn more : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bJd8qcxh3paYkn0.htmlsi=Z9xNjDAnvUt7VUEE
@BlackAndWhiteBand
@BlackAndWhiteBand 4 ай бұрын
@@FaustoFerreira I've been using an old iPad Pro 10" with an Apple USB Camera dongle to connect up to my controller. However I'll soon be upgrading to the Ipad Pro M2. Can you recommend a clean way to connect it to the controller and monitors utilizing USB-C instead of lightning ports?
@FaustoFerreira
@FaustoFerreira 4 ай бұрын
@BlackAndWhiteBand M2 Pro uses USB C, so you can use your regular Hubs, USB extenders, audio devices, controllers, etc... Just create your own setup that works for you. I use a powered Usb Hub that connects everything and powers the iPad at the same time. I use a good USB C extender, so I have everything connected under the desk, when I arrive to the studio with the iPad, I just connect one single cable to the iPad and voila! everything is connected!
@araktununvesga
@araktununvesga 2 ай бұрын
Fala, Fausto! Obrigado pelo vídeo. Não testou o Garage Band?
@FaustoFerreira
@FaustoFerreira 2 ай бұрын
Testei. Quanto aos timbres, incluindo EP, não estão ao nivel dos instrumentos aqui analisados, do ponto de vista da performance e realismo, pelo que nem os considerei.
@araktununvesga
@araktununvesga 2 ай бұрын
@@FaustoFerreira muito obrigado pelo retorno, tu é o cara!
@nahtuanu
@nahtuanu 4 ай бұрын
Can I use your demos on this video for samples.please please 🙏🏾
@FaustoFerreira
@FaustoFerreira 4 ай бұрын
I would be flattered! Just remember to allways credit me! If you sel millions with it, I want my piece of the cake!😁😉
@StaryFanRocka
@StaryFanRocka 4 ай бұрын
What about house mark1 ?
@FaustoFerreira
@FaustoFerreira 4 ай бұрын
Sounds good, but it has this horrible sample transition from mf to ff ( baddly scalled 4 sample layers ) Lack of release samples, no pedal noise, the key noise is very symplistic, etc.. I didn't know about it at the time of my review, or I would have included it, but not putting it side by side with the big boys, its more of a curiosity, a very simple good sounding app. But not for someone who wants a realistic playing experience. I get more excited with software that pushes the iOS capbilitties forward.
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