In the books Mat's father Abell Cauton was one of the most respected men in the village, and his mother was a great mother and good cook who nobody said a bad word about ever. And here they are a cheating husband and drunken wife, and both horrible neglecting parents. I hate everything about this show and it will never have anything to do with the amazing books two incredible writers created.

There are too many war crimes to count in this show, but one of my least favorite changes was the removal of the loss of innocence theme for the main characters. The story just does not work at all without that

Broooo, Perrin being horny for Egwene was the WORST. I feel bad for this character.

This show is exactly what I would expect from rookie CW fan-fic writers. Unfortunately, they put the Wheel of Time name on it. Amazon should be ashamed. And someone should tell Rafe to stop lying; it gets rather pathetic.

I only have 1 reason. And it's the same as the unfortunately passed Authors, RIP RJ - I hate Fan-Fiction. This was expensive fan-fiction and everyone involved should be ashamed (apart from the actors, it's really not their fault at all imo)

It’s offense beyond imagination that these Hollywood hacks presume to be better writers than Robert Jordan. They are a disgrace.

I feel like Wheel of Time did for you what Witcher did for me. I've read Witcher saga way before the games released. After 1st season of the show I was flabbergasted at how bad it was and how they destroyed some of my favorite characters, especially Jaskier. As for WoT - after hearing many 'nice' things about the series, I decided to finally read the first book. I liked it well enough, but while I was reading all I could thing about is how would they fk it up in the show. It's how it is now, I guess, we cannot expect shows based on pre-existing material to be anything but the most shallow interpretation of the original done only for purpose of pushing an agenda.

I still think this gets cancelled after this season. That season 3 stuff was because they knew the strike was coming. They wanted to be ahead in case it got better... it's not going to be.

It's almost always the writers to blame for how horrible these book to movie conversions are.

Agelmars sister........ my god............ to be now forever known as 'lady-who-gives-a-shit' - they kept her (of course) but we sacked elyas, mordeth, aginor, balthamel, shomestu - the entire villiage council. But yay, ladywhogivesashit saves the day guys, everything is ok - take that Patriachy!!

I mention this every time that shot of Rand and Mat approaching Tar Valon is shown. Unless they moved Dragonmount, Rand and Mat approach the city from the north. For some reason. Also I have to laugh that the Siuan intro is her dad sending her 2000 miles upriver. Alone.

Guess I can skip the series and only read the book.

Too few people have covered the travesty that is this "adaptation". It was an unexpected crossover to see it from you, since the last I saw of you was a let's play of Dark Souls (yeah...), but a cathartic one. :)

One correction. They didn’t say “it could be a boy or a girl” for a “mystery”. That was just a rationalization. They did it for gender inclusivity and to make sure there were girl tav’eren. Trust me, if the DR had a been a girl in the books, Moiraine would have said that 10X in her opening monologue. For the EF diversity, all you have to read is Matt’s inner monologue when he goes back to Caemlyn after he’s cured of the dagger curse (he doesn’t remember being there the 1st time). He literally is shocked to see people with skin of every shade and eyes of every shape - something he’s never seen before).

According to the pronunciation guide in the back of the book, you're pronouncing Tar Valon correctly. Apparently, the show runners have never seen the books, let alone picked any of them up. At least, that's the only explanation I can come up with as to how they managed to butcher such an amazing story.

I read a comment on another video saying that 90% of book readers like this show. I don't believe that for a second. People who have read and understand the books know this show is a shallow facsimile at best that deliberately changes key aspects of the books in order to inject objectively worse ideas.

I was quite happy when I learned that this book is becoming a series. I watched the first episode, endured the second and dragged through the third one. Then I stopped watching it, as it was clear that it can only get worse, seeing the preview of the upcoming episodes. If you like the books, there is absolutely no reason you would want to watch some boring series called "Wheel of Time" slapped on it.

Now they’ve released a new clip which shows that Ishamael is freeing the other Forsaken as well, which completely changes the dynamic between the Forsaken if they have to rely on him.

There was a lot of ground to cover from the first book, I know they had to condense things but I don't get why they inserted stupid scenes that distract from the story. And in order to insert those stupid things, like the Egwayne/Rand relationship, Egwayne in the river, Perrin's wife, Matt's abusive family, a random warder that isn't in the books and dies, Moraine and more Moraine, they left out very important plot points like how Perrin meets Elyas and the wolves, Thom being with them from the start, and how he saves Matt and Rand, how Matt gradually gets sick because of the dagger, Camerlyn and Rand's first introduction to Elayne, Loial and Logain, etc etc. So many scenes that were essential to the story replaced by stupidity, sex that wasn't in the books and unimportant characters. It was very important to develop the three boys from being naive bumpkins to slowly learning and coming to terms with their predestined roles in the bigger world. They could have ended the season on a cliff hanger at the eye of the world. It could have worked if they had just followed the blueprint from the book and left the characters as they were written by Jordan. IMO they did in one episode what it took GOT showrunners 5 seasons to do, destroy the legacy of the author of the source material. WOT is GOT seasons 7 and 8 level bad.

The book where great and i can even understand why the writers wanted to make the story more diverse but all the new additions like perrins wife make no sense to me. Sorry for bad english

Didn't even know that shit came out

I had no idea you liked Wheel of Time! I too hate the show lol, it's a complete disaster

It is the same like rings of power. I hate the idea and most new shows, to character assassinate the male characters.

I think the greatest travesty on Rafe's part was getting Moraine and Suin in bed with each other. Not only did that ever happen in the main series, Rafe hijacked the story of the first book for two episodes to make it happen. He used up a quarter of the series' run time to make it happen. It left him with having to make terrible decisions with the rest of the story. I actually outlined the first book with 8, 9 and 10 episodes. Its possible with 8 but not the way that Rafe did it. The biggest things I had to cut were Baerlon and Fal Dara. I had Min as an employee in the Queen's Blessing. Then with Fal Dara I had the group meeting up with Agelmar's army on their way to Tarwin's Gap with them on their way to the Eye. They camp together that night and then part ways. It would have been perfect with 10 episodes, as long as nobody hijacks the story for two episodes like Rafe did.

Amazon should have just written something new completely away for WoT. It would have been better. The complete miss on this series is a horrible thing for me as someone who has read the series at least 6 times over the years. I'm actually listening to it once more right now.

I love the books and hate the show!

Just caught your channel. I appreciate the rant. I have the same problems. Writers of this fan fiction are terrible. I write myself and cannot understand all the bad choices that are made. One of the first things I ever learned about TV storytelling is whomever has the most screen time is the protagonist. That would mean that this story is all about the women. All the men are simps, even Lan. But, what really chafes are all the people who say they love the books, and yet, like this adaptation.

The Ta'veren rumor thing is such shitty, nonsensical story telling I knew right then it was going to be a complete garbage show.

In the last book there is a special sweet love story between a man who can Channel and a red.

Rand althor just aceepts he is the dragon without fulfilling a single prophecy. Bad The not knowing if “the dragon” was a boy or girl? Is fundamentally wrong, the Amyrlin seat is the woman leader , the dragon the male leader , saidin the male half of the power and men going mad , is what makes things so terrifying. Woke nonsense ruining something I have waited for so long , this show is complete trash.

Mystery box writing is cheap garbage. It really doesn't work with Wheel of Time. It's like the writers hate the source material. All the changes are so stupid and detract from the experience. The forced diversity makes the world feel smaller, not to mention confusing as different cultures in the books are identified by skin color, hair color, etc. For example Camelyn which isn't even in the show should be an incredibly diverse, sprawling city. The two rivers should not. Rafe Judkins managed to make Wheel of Time as bad as Rings of Power which is an accomplishment of sorts I guess.

Ngl, getting S2 ads on these videos is a baller move Amazon lol

One of the many things I think they should have done with this show to make it better was not cut out all the travel stuff. I understand that they wouldn't want a whole lot of moving from one place to the next where not a lot happens because of pacing. But they could have easily conveyed a sense of time and distance (not to mention the vastness of the world) by simply doing a very short (or two very short) travel montages, where all we see is a few overlaying shots of characters traveling over different landscapes. It would have offered some gorgeous visuals, too, and would have only taken up a few seconds of screen time. Another thing I was thinking while you were talking about Thom and his Gleeman's cloak. At first I thought they left the many patches out because it would have been hard to explain the meaning behind it without exposition dialogue that would have felt very unnatural. But then I visualized an easy and cool way they could have shown it. Matt likes gambling, right? They should have introduced Thom in Emond's Field at the start. They could have had Matt and Perrin or Rand, or all three of them, run into him, and get all smiley and excited. Then have Matt say, "Rand, how many patches do you think a gleeman's cloak has? If I guess right, you gotta pay me five marks." Then have Rand roll his eyes, and Matt cheats by asking Thom how many he has, only Thon won't tell him to mess with him. That would show the relationship between the boys, show Matt's fun side and his gambling fixation, and also give nice, fun intro to Thom without taking up too much time from others. I agree with, if not all your points, then most of them. I wanted to love this show. I really did.

Yeah, strong opening that I wanted to acknowledge before watching further. It bothers me SO MUCH that so any people just let that one go. Not because it couldn't work ("unreliable narrator" as you say) but because the show does NOTHING to demonstrate this is unreliable... And it echoes throughout the show. Every "adaptation choice" either makes things more grimdark (as if the books aren't ALREADY dark enough) or casts men in a bad light. Or both. Even more upsetting is the apologetics for it all. "fans" will declare Robert Jordan a misogynist and that Rafe is "fixing" the WoT, but will then TOTALLY gloss over the overt sexism towards men. AND the problematic representation of women too (the characters in the show are almost universally less likeable. I think Elayne is the exception?)

This show was lucky in a way because the Rings of Power was so bad and more high profile that many people kind of ignored this. But my main BIG problem with it is they clearly changed the story for "diversity" and female empowerment. I guess I am "fine" with changing characters race or gender to "reflect the times" because if you get too hung up on it, you cannot watch anything anymore. But this kind of show is the worst example of it because they changed the actual story and made it worse to pursue that goal. As others said, Morraine and their leader having a relationship was dumb and made no sense, but they needed a character to be gay. And the five women defeating the evil army at the end, who were untrained novices and one tower drop out really made no sense. The dragon was supposed to do that, but it is just eye-rollingly obvious they did not want the guy to be the hero. But THAT is the entire book and premise! And that battle just caused all sorts of questions like how did Nynaeve come back to life, why the one woman let her brother and their whole towns soldiers die needlessly if they could do that? Why could they do that when Moraine could not, who is much stronger than them in the first episode? This is not just changing superficial stuff, but actually made the whole thing worse and led to stories that made little sense.

I hate the show so much. I resent how different it is to the nooks

I managed to push through the first season, and hear people saying the second is better.... I'm trying, but even as someone who has gone through the books multiple times, I struggle to understand what's going on.

"Did they kill Uno? I hope not, but at least he won't be butchered by the writers later." Well, yes, but actually yes.

"did they kill Uno in that scene, btw, i hope not, but at least he won't be butchered by the writers later" is the funniest sentence in this video when you have watched S2 of this travesty.

I watched about 30 minutes of the first episode and realized quickly it was going to be a terrible woke disaster.

#1 - "Unreliable narrator". This is BAD, when it's done by your allegedly good characters. Either they are wrong... or they are lying. The audience is going to assume that, being a "good" character, they are telling the truth... unless/until they are caught lying. Either way, in the opinion of the audience, it's a lose-lose situation for the "good" character.

I'm good with your work here, it is quite excellent. I did note that you referred to Amalisa (Agelmar's sister) as a "largely original character". Amalisa exists in the books. That she's at all capable of channeling is wrong, agreed, as it is explicitly stated by Liandrin that she wouldn't last a week as a novice. Yes, Morgase is the perfect example of a weak channeler, but since the show completely snubs Caemlyn, they could hardly bring Morgase into the action early on.

Im starting to realize they are trying to take an idea that appeals to men and their target audience is women. It just doesn’t work

If this show was just an unknown fantasy setting, I probably wouldn't mind the show as it is better than the crap around it. Having read the books and loved them, and once thought it would have made a great set of films, I was disappointed with the show from the first moments of the show.

They turned a brilliant fantasy saga into hateful, feminist trash. I knew they'd ruin it. How men can even watch tv nowadays blows my mind.

Mats departure makes no sense because we know that they could have just opened the gateway again. Its not like its a permanent thing. and said Mat don't be dumb lets go.

All of this makes sense when you realize that the actors aren't even trying to play the characters, they're just being themselves.

This showed up in my recommended, but I didn't click on it before the page refreshed. It took me a bit to find it because I searched for "5 reasons." I should've known it'd be difficult to get it down to just 5.

How does it have 82% positive ratings and renewed for at least 3 seasons????????

“at least Uno won’t be around for the writers to shit on him later. 😭😭😭😭 if only you knew what was coming in season 2

The one good thing about the show is it made me want to resd the books! The show was terrible i went into it not knowing anything, i saw all the backlash online and decided hey why not pick up the books since I've always loved books more than shows. I'm on the great hunt and already I can see how terrible the adaptation is. I didn't have to worry about spoilers since i watched the show first, it's a completly different story

You’re nailing all the problems of this show!!!

They didn't just make the two rivers diverse, they made every place diverse. In the show nationality is not ethnicity. From a practical casting perspective this is a good choice.

your second point - they wiped out the concept of two sides of the one power as well. Didn't they kill off mentioning Saidin and Saidar?

The reason forbthe trolloc wasnt because i wanted to or it was cool it "game of thrones did it"

In season one the dagger becomes Matts sonic screwdriver

The witcher casting crew admitted that they choose ugly people on purpose. I think WoT did that too. Just to humiliate story... Casting is just horrible. Not because of uglyness, but because of bad energy between characters, who love each other in the book

I love it when Moiraine killed Master Hightower at Teren Ferry!

#21 & #22 "He (the DR) will be all of those things, and none of those things." Moiraine LIES. "You don't listen to the wind. The wind listens to you." Another lie... Nynaeve DOES listen to the wind... regardless of whether or not the wind will listen to her.

We shouldn't assume that Perrin is horny for Egwene, because he never confirms it. The e1 scene where he's hanging with Rand (and deliberately being noticeably taller than him) and Nynaeve tells him he to go home to his fridge product, he says "say goodbye to Egwene for me"(paraphrased). It feels like a misdirect. When they have their high school drama at Fal Dara, Rand points out that the day he and Egwene got together is the day Perrin married Layla. Perrin states(while looking down at Rand from his 3" height advantage) that the only WOMAN he ever loved was his wife. It seems like a pointless scene, why worry about it if it's a zero sum result and everybody goes back to normal?(I get it, the writing is bad enough that this might actually be the case) Or is it a foreshadowing misdirect?

I have been able to partition my experience with the books and the show, and I'm watching it with someone who has not read. They seem to enjoy it. There are certainly... choices. Viewing it as another turning of the wheel, with a massive grain of salt, has helped. I'm now mostly just curious how certain aspects will be portrayed.

38:30 - Although I hesitate to correct anything you're saying here, simply because the show deserves no defense what-so-ever, I have to correct you with regard to Kerene being able to protect the others because she couldn't see his weaves. The books actually establish at some point that a women can sense how, or what, the man is weaving the power into. Hence they can counter, if quick enough, either by slicing the man's weaves or countering it somehow else. And visa versa for the men, as they can't see women's weaves either. If neither had a way to sense what the other was doing, then essentially all battles would simply end by whoever channeled first. And that's clearly not the case in the books. Not that the writers were aware of this, I'm sure, they just do whatever for plot convenience. 45:00 - Regarding the Ter'Angreal portal, it definitely shows how stupid the writers are and that they don't know their source material. The art of making Ter'Angreal was lost 1000s of years ago, yet here's one that just magically links directly into Siuan's love shack, which, for all the world, based upon the cold open, like it's in Tear. Maybe it's in Tel'aran'rhiod, but still, it's highly unlikely they would've found two Ter'Angreal that linked to exactly the same spot. (Assuming Siuan has one as well). 1:11:48 - "Did they kill Uno in that scene, by the way, I hope not, but at least he won't be butchered by the writers later..." - 🤣🤣🤣

Agelmar isn't actually dead nor is Loial... They should be but they retconed it before season 2 came out.

Lmao I'll comment as I listen. But this is funny coming from you. Have. Good day!. Thanks for the content

The funny thing about Tom is that in later episodes somewhere with Rand, you see in the background a gleeman's cloak (albeit ugly representation of one in s2e3 around 30m mark).. Then why did you not put it on Tom at the beginning?!

You could have the green man introduce forkroot to the series, great video.

Also you passed 100k! Hell yeah!

#24 moraine also would of noticed shadow spawn

Just in time for season 2

LLT's plan would not have worked if women joined in, it would have just resulted in both halves of the True Source becoming Tainted. But, I agree that the show is garbage. Especially the idiotic "mystery box" plot of the first season. The series is full of poor writing that puts immediate drama and spectacle over good story telling and consistent world building. Every cheap writing trick, dead beat parents, friged wife, etc. is employed to manufacture drama, even at the expense of a consistent story.

There sre only 5 Taveren Rand, Matt and Perrin.

It is asbad as Rings of power. Terrible!!!!

It sucks, plain and simple. Impossible to make such a series with today's "woke" media mafia. I have no problem with the representation of different races. If a character is fictional, who cares what colour their skin is? Besides Jordan quite obviously meant for several different races and cultures to be in his books. However, diversity in the small community makes no sense. And what's with all the hyper-sexuality? It was a great story without all that! Are they trying to turn it into GOT? I barely stomached the first season, watched one episode of the second season and then gave up.

Only 60? If you have nothing but contempt for the source material and the fans who have loved it for generations, your adaptation is going to fail. Just ask the show runners for The Witcher and Rings of Power...

Only 60? You’re not even trying.

This is one of the worst shows on right now, so boring and it goes nowhere. The writing is all modern cringe. They handed this series to a survivor contestant, kinda says it all. This adaptation is an abomination

EF 90210

This is excellent and you make all the points I have made before.

I dunno. I like the show. I feel like its pretty well done for TV adaptation. Coulda been much worse.