Genuine question here - did it actually? Or is that just the narrative? I can’t help but wonder whether either of those 2 extremes were actually true.

nothing extreme about it, just how it is@@Lazlo-os1pu

@@Lazlo-os1pu Before summer of 2022 I couldn't delete recruiter emails fast enough and now I can't get back a response when I reply to a recruiter email. Recruiters I have talked to said they have never seen it this bad in the last 10-15 years.

@@Lazlo-os1pu..Seems like it's true, and it makes sense considering how many people FANG and other companies have laid off over the past 18 months. I know a lot of those FANG employees were not SE, but some were, and now we all have to compete. In any case, it does seem like an employers market right now

Remember that we are in a recession

Same I spoke to over 100 people all they said apply online

I know a recruiter who told me that if you hear this, you are not demonstrating your passion about the job or/ and your skills are not apparent enough

​@@user-vx4fl1is2wsounds like some bullshit a lazy recruiter who doesn't want to carry around a stack of resumes would say

Try to stay away from explicitly talking tech, and more into talking business. It my not work for a FANG company, but you might impressed someone who didn't even realize they needed someone like you. And you can present yourself as a person who wants to work with them instead of for them. "As a program, I have worked on a lot of applications that aim to reduce operational costs." "This update to our site actually resulted in a far lower bounce rate."

​@@user-vx4fl1is2wI'm gonna wear a shirt that says "computer" to make my skills apparent then

It has never been easier to make (clone) enterprise level software. Just do that and/or/AND dabble in fintech.

@@TW0man4RMY I’m interested in dabbling in Fintech can you please elaborate?

I graduated with a 2.7 GPA, never interned, and got a $100,000 job the same year and never did a leetcode interview ever. Never ever gotten a "referral". It is possible.

@@usernamesrbacknowthx was this recent though?

@@Ironlionm4n >can you please elaborate? lol dont get me started. Long story short is crypto. Crypto markets dont need to go up for you to be able to make money off of them either. BTC requires computational technology and energy as inputs. "AI" requires computational technology as an input. Demand for computational technology is skyrocketing. Nvidia makes computational technology. Check nvidia's stock price. Check the demand for AI. Check the debt amounts for various nation states. They can either print money (monetary inflation) or raise taxes to get out. No one is going to vote for politicians to raise their taxes so monetary inflation and in turn price inflation is a guarantee over the next decade. Fintech brings all of this together. There is money to be made there because inefficiencies in pricing for various assets is guaranteed as nation states attempt to direct printed money towards where their citizenry demand they do. Build software applications that trade in markets to take advantage of said inefficiencies. You can try the stock market but you'll be going up against the most powerful groups of people on the planet that will spend millions and billions to reduce a few seconds of latency their trading applications face. Or do crypto before they put all of the pieces together. Check this out: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aJxjdtKgqbC-c40.html ........a few hundred million lost in a few seconds due to a software bug. Imagine being on the other end of that trade with software you made/cloned and made slightly better. Imagine simply selling access to such software. People are already starting do that but mostly with the stock market. Theres people on youtube creating applications that simply mimic the trading politicians do; it isnt even complicated to do mostly just data mining from other areas on the internet.

Seems like this makes more sense: “When I was a boy of 14, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be 21, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in seven years.” ― Mark Twain

“Shut up” - Dick Cheney

"Eat some grass" - Cow

I love this quote😮. First time hearing it 👍

That's true you get chace to get a human rest of time robort.

that depends on how well you do during the internship. During internship you'll learn a lot, build up a good linkedin page, and a good portfolio (you shouldn't care that your portfolio projects are not perfect, they need to showcase that you know something about this and you can build something), and you'll likely get a job without much problem. Tho I'm an intern myself so I should prly shut up.

Then you’re doing it wrong. Don’t know why younger generations like to brag about how their mass resume spamming approach didn’t work, as if that was somehow unexpected. Must be an attention thing.

@@Stay_away_from_my_swamp_water i've had a portfolio with projects on it before i even started my internship, so it helped get my contract in the first place

@@JohnSmith-op7ls alright buddy. how am i supposed to do it then ?

@@JohnSmith-op7ls "younger generation" dude, you are so far removed from what the current job market is. Internships are extremely difficult to get now, jobs are even harder. "If you don't have a job in an industry that has had more people let go in the past year than graduates in that field, you are simply doing it wrong". I don't know how that statement even makes any sense to you or anyone with a brain.

This is why I never understood career fairs. It all felt so fake. I can't proselytize myself like that.

@@jalbers3150 It's a common issue that the people that can present themselves the best are rarely the best people. But you can't find the best people if they can't present themselves at all.

@@jalbers3150 yeah career fairs are something to hit up if you've hit up everything else. it's not the most typically successful route. I got my first position a couple years after the 2000 web crash. it took a painfully long time. getting your first position absolutely sucks, especially during a recession.

Unless you’re applying for a bunch of jobs that are completely different to each other, a lot of your interview prep will be reusable across multiple interviews.

JobJette all the way! Hundreds a day and I’m finally getting interviews!

😂, it’s almost possible

I’m not sure where you think his advice is falling short? He literally talks about being prepared for a job vs. preparing for a career as being vastly different for the first 12months. Is he not giving enough unqualified advice on how to optimise your CV for the CV analysing LLMs? Is he not perpetuating the “no one can get a job” story enough? Is he not driving his lambo enough on stream? L take my man. L take.

@@Kane0123 when I read most comments it’s no wonder to me why these guys don’t have a job…

w take tbh @@usernamesrbacknowthx

​@@Kane0123 His advice at the beginning is just "take massive amounts of debt so you can get a face to face interaction" so you can to work at McDonald's for $13/hr.

Bro fr. I know I'm not a senior engineer or admin, but damned I'll be if I didn't actually feel so confident in my abilities. I've ran the full gauntlet of making several full stack apps, managing remote servers, ci/cd, container orchestration, Yada Yada, and no replies at all brother

Same, I had to settle for a tech support role with some scripting/dev after many fruitless and vain months of search. I was almost a year without any job.

105 companies are rookie numbers tbh, I had similar LoE coming out of university, applied to 400-500 places across the country until I started getting interviews

Have you looked into the resume filtering systems that most companies use? I’ve not put a resume together yet as im still working on my major application i plan on deploying, but from some mentors and senior developers i know, great candidates get their resumes automatically deleted before they’re even looked at because of some filtering software’s that application portals use. But there are services that help you formulate your resume to meet the key values that are necessary to not get filtered out. Your work might be incredibly impressive and nobody knows because a human being is never actually seeing it

@@trentirvin2008 I'll definitely look into that. I used the same general template that I've seen my friends who have got interviews use, but you never know, I might be doing something differently

70-80 interviews? Bruh if you’re getting to that stage its interview technique.

Did they give you any feedback?

Also wondering

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@@NamaDoodoo Rather stupidity of the interviewers.

Absolutely reasonable based on our expectation. The university doesn’t see it that way. They think we’re there to be educated by their “world class” researchers.

@@mecanuktutorials6476 I guess it comes down to who finances the university. Is it taxpayers money, in which case I think taxpayers do have a right to demand something in return for their money, or is it a private business.

The universities are there to make money. They don't give a fuck if you get a job or not.

sometimes it's not about the university, but about the system. If universities graduate k students per year but only n

@@user-os4lj3pi4q i think you are overcomplicating things. People are just lazy and dumb and that is the problem

Depends on your university, its degree programs and its location. My BA rarely ever had career fairs. My AAS community college had them roughly every two-three month. You could also over time guess relevancy simply by which building it was set up in. Was it set up inside the IT building, inside the entrance to the Liberal Arts community center or outside Infront of the union. once I saw an It company in the liberal arts building. The IT building set up was extremely rare/ as for in front of the union it was common with all the expected retail or healthcare companies. You could also tell if it was worth attending because students would go home and come back to campus in formal attire before walking around the tables. While the two locations students wouldn't take it as seriously and would talk with companies in T-shirts and standard apparel.

My career fairs were legit companies but there were literal thousands of students trying to talk to the people at the tables. It just felt hopeless.

That is how you know that times are bad. But hey, it could be worse. It could have been strip clubs and local mobsters looking for full time employees.

​@@JohnDoe-sq5nvthat don't sound to bad

@@Nick-qy7lk That's what I saw in engineering job fairs when I was in school, 50-ish companies in a large room with 2-3 thousand students looking for a job.

I go to a small university. Around 1500 students, and our career fairs are pretty garbage. 0 tech companies. Most companies don’t have cs related internships being offered. About 5 of them offer a cs related internship. I got lucky. One of them gave me an internship, and I was able to extend it for my whole sr year and got a job offer.

The career fairs I've seen don't even accept resumes, you're talking to some random HR guy who tells you to just visit and apply on their website instead. It's more of an advertisement for their company rather than actually interviewing potential candidates.

you're not limited to the fairs of the uni you're studying at, I've never had anyone ask me for my student ID entering one, and the companies are just there to recruit, your alma doesn't matter as long as you can convince them you're qualified

@@uwotm8634 true for like big finance or insurance corpos, but actual tech firms usually send actual developers to look for developers

yeah and they're collecting hundreds of resumes while hiring for only 1 or 2 positions

No? I had an Algorithmia subject in CS that was pretty similar to leetcode problems.

@@HappyroosterYT my college only taught me named algorithms djikstra kruska prim tarjan kosaraju , not two pointer sliding window merge intervals dynamic programming, they showed us one question for backtracking rat in a maze,

@@HappyroosterYTMine was nowhere near LeetCode questions. It was more "here is the data structure and algorithm, now try and prove why it's this or that."

@@chaitanyasharma6270a lot of questions on leetcode reduce to those algorithms lol

On my final exam I had to write some DS's function or an algorithm in C++ with pen and paper.

Meritocracy? Who tricked you into thinking that? "Meritocracy" is just a lie we tell to pretend the poor deserve to be poor

@@OrdigTroll Meritocracy exists, it’s just the skill ceiling you perceive to need to be above in order to get a job off merit is much higher than you think. You’re not getting a job off merit unless you built some open source tool lots of people use.

Because if companies openly told candidates the truth, they’d all be sued into oblivion. That’s a sad truth that is learned over time, and anyone telling you otherwise either doesn’t have experience, benefits from favoritism of this system (nepo-hire, etc), or is just in denial. Last but definitely not least: the only person responsible and who has the power to choose your path is you.

@@OrdigTroll I worked full-time at a gas station for over a year and honestly, almost every homeless/poor person I saw behaved in ways that absolutely justified their lack of wealth. You can call me an alt-right capitalist or whatever you want but its true. They'd use food stamps for a load of junk food/soda, only to then spend their remaining cash on tobacco and alcohol. Not everyone in impoverished positions deserves it, obviously. But in our 1st world country, many of those people are keeping themselves poor because of their addictions and poor decision making. They have no in-demand skills, and no drive to learn. They have few friends, and typically bad relationships. They aren't helping themselves or anyone else around them.

Society revolves around people liking you. Yes you have to meet quotas at a job but the the best person for the job is never going to be the person who does the work the best. ESPECIALLY in a corporate setting.

As a CS major, I honestly don't feel threatened by hordes of low tier programmers.

thats true if there isnt antitrust issies. lack of competition in the field of work will keep all them from working. what likely will happen is the selected is discriminatorily and will become latino only companies etc.

​@@henlohenlo689NURSE

@IvanRandomDude you can find jobs that pay more peanuts than most of the US companies (not considering tech giants). Plus, considering difference in price of living and housing prices I'd say EEU devs get to enjoy more peanuts.

in... their own contries?

This was my experience as well.

Yeah my career fair was a bunch of companies who listed they were looking to hire cs majors and you go talk to them and they’re like “oh yeah we’re looking for an IT desk guy” or “we don’t have any software positions” or “I have one position open and it already have 700 applications from students with way better resumes from way more prestigious schools” Like why tf are you here then?

That’s what I’m planning on doing, work in some warehouse or something and just build my skill set on the side through projects until the job market corrects itself Don’t know how long it will take though 😔

@@poopdealer_It's better to find an internship or a junior level job to learn the stuff, otherwise you may still find yourself in a warehouse in 10 years.

@@poopdealer_ just make sure it's part time ( weekends ). You will need all the time you can get to make your side project succeed in the real world no matter how trivial it is. especially if you are doing everything yourself. Sotf skills like software achitecture were incredibly hard for me to grasp. I literall rewrote my web app more than five times now, because each time I launched it into production and started asking friends and family to use it. It worked but, was not user friendly (navigation, layouts, docs, etc..). Working part-time allowed to make my personal project the "main" focus in my life!

@@poopdealer_ what’s your SWE experience up to this point?

Good luck, do it now prior to the robot invasion killing jobs like this.

Great advice. Doing it in the morning is key. If you don't do it then, it probably won't happen, lol.

does anything but your career matter to you

​@@qwoolrat your career enables every other part of your life.. how much do you care about family/friends if you only support them as a burger flipper

@@zacharythomasrobertson8471, My friend who was also HR, told me that "timing" and "post dates" are as important as making a rock solid resume and cover letter. She told me that HR are human too and you need to grab their attention within first 3-5 hours of their work (7am ~ 10am mostly, also consider their time zone).

​@@qwoolrat, on average, many people will spend 90,000 hours on 8-9hr job/career, covering 30% of their entire life. Finding a better career that will lessen the financial burden in your work life while finding more time doing amazing things is rare. But without effort, you wont find that solace in life. "you can't enjoy life without feeling burden by it"

Goddamn how long have you been unemployed?

@@ayeb0ssmaybe 3.5 year.

1.1k? How's many tech companies exist where you live?

@@boratsagdiyev522 depends too many ghost companies post hiring but never call or send mail back.

@@boratsagdiyev522 it’s a made up estimate 😂

Where do you even find dev jobs in MA? Outside of Boston the tech market seems non existent here. I look at cities in MA with around 100K population and many of them don't even have ONE listing for SWE, and the ones that do are not junior positions.

Well, you still have to get an engineer with an engineering mindset. It's also the reason you don't hire physicists if you want to get things done. A CS degree is not a substitute, it's laying the theoretical groundwork. In hiring, I try hard to avoid the academic research types that lack the necessary pragmatic mindset.

Yep. Been working in industry for about 6-7 years and got my Masters at a reputable university in Boston and I'd probably be slow af to do some algo/leet code type questions right now-granted I have work experience, I'd consider myself on the luckier side. I've met people who pick up really quickly with degrees, and others who are lost. It's hard out here for everyone for sure :/

​@@Asto508physicists make amazing Software Engineers my guy. Fuck you mean you don't hire physicists if you want to get stuff done

@@Adr3nalin3CsGO Not my experience. They usually have an eccentric style that makes it hard to comprehend for other people and they tend to get lost in irrelevant details instead of finding a good balance between pragmaticism and finding seemingly perfect solutions. Programming is more like writing literature for commoners than writing academic papers for elitists.

Bro, u hiring?

Rough man 😂

yes here too, eu.

I was looking in the comments for this. I’m also from Europe (Netherlands) and the job market is still very strong here. I really don’t understand why this is different in the US.

@@sanderlissenburg1608tech bubble, companies massively over-hired a few years ago and now they're cutting back but they keep job application open for (tax purposes)

hey pal any good place to find european roles?

You missed the part where the guy was fresh out of college with zero relevant experience. Try that in the EU and report back :P

Not CS on Mumbai University of course. He is talking about western universities with a certain standard.

Can confirm your experience. I've worked and still work together with people I could swear they bought their cs masters on ebay.

@@5h4ndt Maybe they did. I think barely any company is actually demanding proof of a degree and there are enough people who just forge their CV simply because they know it's never checked and there are no consequences.

@@Asto508Maybe one or two. But not the hundreds of them I met till now and will continue to meet, it's not getting better....

@@Asto508I'm pretty sure most companies with >100 employees will do at least some form of background check

Companies are starting to realize that they get the most leverage by taking away the human factor. They just try to automate and expand the top funnel, so that they get to hand-pick their best option from some office far away and detached from reality.

What - no qr code or nothin??

@@axb8886 Nah sometimes they have a QR code that leads to their website, that's about it. A lot of the times the people at the booths are just HR, they don't actually know what tech stack the company uses or any other useful details.

When I see stuff like this, I understand why so many people fear AI: They do their job in a half-assed manner that a simple algorithm can replace them! What is the point of a job fair, if not to establish REAL connections? A card is no better than a quick search and a LinkedIn follow

Never listen to him about anything job related. Technology is good stuff but anything else he is so far out of normal employment situations he can't fathom it.

prime got hired by talking about rxjs to some recruiter... times have changed. He is spot-on about how to LEARN programming. He doesn't realize that nowadays KNOWING programming barely places you in the pool of thousands that also KNOW programming. Most of the market is a race to the bottom, the work is seen by many employers as a dumb thing that needs to get done, and they just need to reduce the costs as much as possible to get this dumb thing out of the way.

You are not pulling your bootstraps hard enough boy! 😂

Guess what 20y ago there were losers like you who would keep complaining while your peers are getting good jobs and moving on with their life. Get off reddit and youtube dude.

Yeah, Prime really has no clue.

To be fair... this is a very common and classic human-perception blind-spot. They remember what it was like 20 years ago, they are trying to be helpful because the advice WAS very helpful 20 years ago.... But now we live in a hyper-accelerationist devolving society. Things change in 10 years more than they did in entire generations. Internet, stock market, equity or whatever... Pandemic? Wtf honestly that was a robbery of resources by the elite but lets not go into that .... conspiracy? Yeah sure conspiracy, because elite could keep running business while the average small business got fked. Land became scarce in the span of a single generation. Can you believe that? Land was not scarce before, it has never been scarce in the history of the world until now. Even though the scarcity is fabricated, economically it is scarce.

@@usernamesrbacknowthx "Get off reddit and youtube dude" and you go back to your asylum, your senile boomer "your peers are getting good jobs and moving on with their life" lmao no they are not. no one is "moving on with their life" anymore, there are no "good jobs".

You'reentirely right... but that's the advantage of tech the barrier to just making something on your own is ridiculously low but people don't do that they just do useless leetcode with 0 application to real life instead. So yes you need experience but that experience can be making your own thing, unlike say a biomechanical engineer that's literally impossible to do on your own or urban planning engineers or whatever

Study to become a senior dev. Only option left.

Just because there is an open position, doesn't mean you can just accept anyone no matter how lacking they are in experience or other required skills. It's often better to leave a position open for years than hiring someone who needs substantial training and have the attached risk that the person won't grow into the role in the end.

@@Asto508 in this case i was already trained, had all the needed access and had shown that i was more than capable of performing the responsibilities for the role except for one task that i was not allowed to do as an intern

@@Ettap96 Well, I can't judge your individual case here and it also depends on how many applicants have been there for this position, but seemingly the people in the seats had their reasons not to consider you or maybe they did and you still lost because the other guy was objectively better or there were other external reasons. Unless you have a deeper insight into how and why the process turned out, it's difficult to say, but don't make the mistake to think there weren't good reasons for it.

When i hear "worker shortages" now i assume they mean "the amount of workers who we feel can do this job without much training is low so we want to increase the hiring pool so we can pay less".

@@Asto508 I dont really know why as i didnt get to know anything else than they decided to go with the other candidate that made it through the 3 stage interview prosses

Hey Andrew, We have that here in Germany. You can go to a trade school for that. You apply at a normal company, but you go to work 3 days a week, and 2 days you go to school. It takes 3 years. You do get paid during all that time, but the pay is very low, about 1000 Euros/month.

@@johanneswelsch when I was doing mine at 17, I was getting paid 24 pounds a month (1989). I find it a fair exchange for great learning. It was really hard, and I needed to get extra benefit's to cover housing etc... However, by 21, I had attained enough skill to get a job at Intel when they were #4 in the world. I'd leapfrogged all those that did go to uni.

the thing is most cs majors now have years of experience coming out from research labs and internships as well. it's really just that new grad roles are impossible to get and they treat you like you have no experience unless you've interned at a top company.

​@@blasted5477 to be fair interning and schooling are different things. The allure of a boot map grad is - generally speaking - the grads have went through a program that replicates a companies daily workflow. They're familiar with the tools, frameworks, and general practices of working as a team. The type of roles that align with what a student has been doing would seem to be a select few.

@@blasted5477 this is not true

My hourly is £14.50 and i got a high mark on my BA, applied to a good few places. In todays dollars you started on double my salary.. not so much an intern eh?

@@ZaKrlawI really wasn’t an intern, it was an entry level job. I was paid hourly w/ no benefits and everyone else was on salary. I worked 40 - 60 hours a week, but got overtime. I also attended Uni full time. It just felt important to work and get that resume padded.

God damn

Have you considered career coaching? While a lot of people have a lot of rejections, but a few thousand would suggest that there are some serious issues at play.

@@xdega I've tried that. I graduated during Covid and never got to intern since they were mostly all closed. Been rough since

@@plumbingphase this is correct

Eh I’d like to see your resume. Willing to bet it’s vacant and/or trash and you’ve done nothing to add/improve it

Electrical Eng here too, 18 months internship, graduated into the 2008 recession. Had a jolly bad time.

Problem is, if they even have the resouces, those companies aren’t willing to train people fresh off of college. Management doesn’t want to take risk on people who’s just going to eventually leave the company after just about two years which is a common practice in our field aparrently. Actually, even big software companies are starting to do this more often. Before the pandemic hiring spree, IT companies opens a lot of training programs for junior devs to take advantage of. These days, the number of programs from tech companies seem to become less and less every year.

@@unhash631 Well, that seems to be an American company then. I am from Germany where that's not a problem since A LOT of our education system is based on companies and schools working together. For example for some engineering fields you do your final work (e.g. your Bachelor work) at a company, not at university (the university only grades it afterwards). But then again, even in IT we don't have this "switch company every few years"-culture.

@@kuhluhOG I always heard Germany and few EU companies have a much more Superior Training based educational system, but America isn't like that. The School system is horrible, from Grammar School, Highschool, to College. They just wants to pump students through the system, whatever happens next don't matter. President Obama even shut down a whole bunch of for profit College because of that. Most of the types of companies you talk about don't have the resources to train Newbies, or their IT dept is so small and have no idea how to train a newbie or have any rooms to train someone who couldn't hit the ground running.

Hear, hear!

bro I "woke" up in my fourth year and I'm in my fourth year. My brain just started to understand everything and why all these CS stuff existed. But it's a little too late for me. 😂😂😂😂

Agreed lol

i live in germany too, i graduated right at the beginning of the pandemic. 4 years have passed since than and i am still struggling to find a job in tech.

Anything for the views

THANK YOU. Cant even watch the video. The typical "bullshiter" that says stuff that sounds good but has the depth of a AI generated response.

The ones I've been to were like 50/50. Half of them were hiring and half weren't. However the positions were advertised also on their website and on linkedin so they were not necessarily looking to fill the positions on the spot. Plus a lot of the positions were not even suited for recent graduates or students as they required 2+ of experience. I know one person only that sort of got a job through a fair and they were at first rejected and then contacted months later to be offered the same position which they accepted.

What 😮

@@johnchris2122 Took me over 6 years when I graduated in 2009. I had to take unrelated jobs as millions of out of work oeple who had years of experience were willing to work for minimum wage to code by 2010. I am not making that up Literally you could get a javascript developer for free for references or $10/hr.

The EV companies are looking for lots of electrical engineers, and they're not full of academics because they mostly aren't flush with cash to just hand out to people who do nothing.

this is a very good example for bullying. someone just imputes that someone is doing nothing and he doesnt even know them.

​​@@diandradeeke that's...that's not bullying. Shittalking, yes, hasty generalizing, yes. Bullying no.

Bluds out here treating rejections like a dick measuring contest lmao.

yep, that's what I'm thinking. If he got rejected for 600 ENTRY LEVEL roles, then there's most definetly a bunch of red flags in his resume/interviewing process that got exposed every time

@@shyshka_ he most likely came off as pretentious, as he did in the video. People generally can smell that shit right away

I was gonna say. In the year of our lord twenty twenty three? 600 rejected applications in tech is not that many, unless these were all custom tailored for each job posting. And even then. That’s 5 per day for 4 months. Those are rookie numbers.

the red flag is the guy saying "your experience is nothing because I suffer more".

If I was hiring and the guy told me about a SAT tutor, I'd reject him in a second! If you can't do SAT on your own...🤭

Vote Biden durhur

no, the law was already reverted by a bill that holds until 2026. companies must deduct within 1 year now. however, it DID cause a lot of layoffs

Maybe if you rewrote it in Rust...

@@LordOfCake Thats a natural progression, but since I need more 'products' to be "hire-able" as a "web-developer", that will have to wait. I have to finish the 'product' by giving it a proper GUI and proper documentation on its Github page. Honestly, I'm wondering if its even worth anymore.

@@SeRoShadow mind open-sourcing ?

​@@stephanenathan8034Although I would highly appreciate feedback from dev community: - open-sourcing an incomplete project equates to giving up and I don't want that to reflect on my portfolio. - it has been clean-coded, tested to oblivion and its easily transpilable and I would like to avoid somebody "claiming" it after I've put all the effort. - collab is also out of question since the project is in its final phase. I dont want to have to justify the time it took with a team in front of the possible employers when in fact I did all the work.

Sadly doing an internship while studying isn't realistic with how higher education works in my country. Even if it were, very few companies are looking for interns

This is good advice. Stick with a company for a bit and move up inside that company. Also having to deal with the code you wrote a few years ago is great for learning. If you don't look back at your code decisions and say what was I thinking you have not developed your skills enough.

Doesn‘t (theoretical) physics also teach you a lot about programming? Usually in the context of numerical simulations and high performance computing (e.g. finite element simulations or quantum simulations)? Did you try going that route? Furthermore, your education seems highly relevant for data science/machine learning roles where a scientific mind and math skills are actually more appreciated than your knowledge about „coding“. Maybe, that could also be a route you could consider instead of a „bare programming“ job?

​@@tybaltmercutio yeah I did a few computational physics classes, that's where I first realized I like programming. I'm in Canada though, there aren't relevant jobs for that. Data science was what I was going after but very little for that in Canada too. Data science is dying anyway - ML engineer positions are more common. Still, most opportunities are at the senior level. I actually interviewed for one recently, but failed miserably lol. At least I got an interview though. Now idk what to do other than keep improving my skills until I'm at the senior level for ML engineer roles. But then I might be stuck in my parents house for another 2 years lol, which I really don't enjoy.

@@DarkRaviForDeath Another thing worth considering might be quantum computing. From what I have seen, Canada seems to be a hot spot for quantum computing startups. Having knowledge in quantum mechanics and python, should make this faster learnable than ML engineering. By the way: I‘m also a physicist trying to switch to industry.

@@tybaltmercutio haha I did my thesis on quantum computing. There are no jobs yet that don't require a phd. I'm aware of the few notable quantum computing startups in Canada, but I think due to the economy, funding isn't the best for these startups. I guess you're still figuring this out then - when did you graduate? The benefit of going after ML engineering is that, that is where most opportunities are, which means you can get more interviews - which you'll need because failing interviews is part of the game. For me at least, it is also what I wanted to do. I think everything would be fine if there were more mid-level jobs being posted, but this broken senior-only market is everywhere.

@@DarkRaviForDeath Yes, it is true that most QC job openings require a PhD but I guess you might still have a chance given you wrote a Master Thesis on that topic. I graduated a long time ago, did a PhD and a Postdoc but now decided to leave academia. Going from Postdoc to Postdoc just sucks as all the work contracts are only two to three years. I would also prefer going into data science/engineering or software engineering as I do not really „believe“ in quantum computing and the field is super niche. I agree that getting into those other fields might be a more difficult but smarter move.

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