666 and Subjectivity: An Orthodox Christian Analysis of Slavoj Žižek (w/Wesenschau)

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SOURCES
asceticexperience.com/2019/08...
orthodoxartsjournal.org/the-s...
thesymbolicworld.com/articles...
www.quantamagazine.org/how-go...
Žižek, Less Than Nothing
Žižek, Absolute Recoil
Žižek, Incontinence of the Void
Jay Dyer’s Discord
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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 Introduction
0:59 Wesenschau, 666
17:42 Self-relating Negativity:
29:56 Immanence and the Non-All
35:27 The Impossibilities of Subjectivity
39:44 The End of History
42:10 Maffematics (Pageau and Gödel):
44:15 The Beast and the Saints
45:09 Conclusion

Пікірлер: 66
@Wesenschau
@Wesenschau 2 жыл бұрын
I'd say this is a great start to the series, but I may be a bit biased... Thanks for having me on, cousin
@daman7387
@daman7387 2 жыл бұрын
came here from the I'm not Norm's son poll
@daman7387
@daman7387 2 жыл бұрын
@@telosbound dang is that legit true
@poiesiskav480
@poiesiskav480 2 жыл бұрын
@@daman7387 yes
@pray4mojo35
@pray4mojo35 2 жыл бұрын
Amy Schumer isn’t funny!
@Grannybang35
@Grannybang35 2 жыл бұрын
WHY NORM
@O.G.Rose.Michelle.and.Daniel
@O.G.Rose.Michelle.and.Daniel 2 жыл бұрын
This was the best elaboration on 666 I’ve ever heard, by far. And the way you two connected it with Žižek was stunning: I’ve never heard that done before, and I will never think of 666 the same way again. I am in debt to you and Wesenschau. Absolutely masterful work.
@seancurn9923
@seancurn9923 2 жыл бұрын
I thought this was about Amy Schumer
@pray4mojo35
@pray4mojo35 2 жыл бұрын
It is. Amy Schumer isn’t funny and this video is slightly funnier than the best of her bits.
@coltcrabtree3899
@coltcrabtree3899 Жыл бұрын
The death of Eros, the self-relating union with the void
@garruksson
@garruksson 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely wonderful, I'm looking forward to future episodes!
@owenisgoing
@owenisgoing Жыл бұрын
Great video! I have always wondered about the meaning of 666 in the Bible and this is by far the best explanation I’ve ever heard. At some point in the video you mentioned the Orthodox concept of Deification. I come from a Baptist background, so I would like to ask, how does Deification in Orthodoxy differ from the ideas of Justification, Sanctification, and Glorification in Protestantism? Or are they one in the same? Thank you for making such great content and may God continue to grant you His wisdom and power as He already has.
@thomasweiss7167
@thomasweiss7167 2 жыл бұрын
In recent years I feel as though God has been revealing more and more about the meaning of the number 666 to His people. Excellent video, I'm glad to see that others also understand how this number is not just arbitrary, but is the actual essence of life without the presence of God. God bless!
@glasselevator
@glasselevator Жыл бұрын
So insightful, thank you for this elaboration.
@Tresla1408
@Tresla1408 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this amazing analysis. God bless you brothers!
@jesterfrombeyond1776
@jesterfrombeyond1776 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, you will make it big my homie if you keep up this level of quality and depht. Tough I have one question, is belive enough without experience or is belive subject to a process of degeneration if not grounded in first hand experience. Would appreciate a reply. 🤙
@jesterfrombeyond1776
@jesterfrombeyond1776 2 жыл бұрын
@@telosbound So do you mean Belief in the devine is in your view the prerequisit for experience of the devine?
@jordynbeloved4268
@jordynbeloved4268 Жыл бұрын
Love watching your videos man
@JAMESKOURTIDES
@JAMESKOURTIDES 2 жыл бұрын
Nice work
@Tilldeatharmwrestling
@Tilldeatharmwrestling Жыл бұрын
This was a great video
@zachtupper3934
@zachtupper3934 Жыл бұрын
Pumped to watch this let’s go
@poiesiskav480
@poiesiskav480 Жыл бұрын
SUCH A BRILLIANT VIDEO!!!!
@ioisalv7918
@ioisalv7918 Жыл бұрын
Extremely Valentin Thomberg vibemaxxed. Amazing channel
@Gabriel-im5zr
@Gabriel-im5zr Жыл бұрын
Very insightful #baptizingphilosophy
@batbite_
@batbite_ 2 жыл бұрын
Have you read Kierkegaard´s Sickness Unto Death?
@batbite_
@batbite_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@telosbound Really, I think Kierkegaard is your friend in the pursuit you're doing. Unfortunately he's not as exact with his language in translation as in original Danish. The first couple of pages in sickness unto death characterizes self relation and how through self relating we 1. Despair, 2. Becomes conscious about this despair, 3 how according to Kierkegaard faith in God is the necessary solution to despair and 4. How the relationship with God and the world ought to be based on the schema finality(finite) and infinality(infinite).
@harrytoube1553
@harrytoube1553 Жыл бұрын
A Fantastic project!
@FloridaSkaters
@FloridaSkaters 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant work
@dylanqdrujcf7850
@dylanqdrujcf7850 2 жыл бұрын
There is a mathematical mistake here which is common, especially in ancient philosophy & old religions. As man attempts to posit his reality without God, a margin of error always remains. This much is true. Man may not reach a complete, closed, self-referential imminent description of the all, but this does not require the all to be non-imminent. In the same way irrational numbers can be reached from the limits of sequences of rationals, the all can be reached as the limit of imminent positions. Mathematical limits admit no infinity in their definition; the limits of a set, aptly called its closure, can be imminent to the set itself, with no transcendence required. This limit of each-incomplete finite positions corresponds most to Hegel's notion of the sublation of all finite positions. The error here is to assume that the sublation of infinite finite positions must itself be infinite, which is to assume that the infinite sum of finites must itself be infinite. This mistaken argument can be put another way: a single pushing into the margins of the all never closes knowledge of the all; nonetheless, each pushing expands the knowledge; therefore, there is no upper limit to knowing the all; therefore, the all must be infinite with respect to knowing. The mistake here is to assume that the impossibility of reaching something with finite operations upon finite operands implies that the reached-for thing is infinite, it does not. Consider the two intervals not containing their endpoints (0,1) and (0,∞). Neither contains the infinite, further no finite sequence upon either set can reach its end points. There is no finite closure of (0,∞), denoting it requires assuming an infinite point outside of all finite numbers. However the closure of (0,1) is simply the interval with its endpoints, denoted [0,1], who's elements are all finite with respect to each other. In this way, the closure of knowledge of the all requiring an impossible infinite descent into the margins does not imply the infinitude of the all itself. The criticism isn't fully fleshed out and I would have liked to make the bridge to mathematics stronger, but I hope its direction is taken. I reckon the mistake is common because the formalisation of limits is a historical rarity and their philosophical application is even rarer still. Those who wrote the Torah certainly would not have had access to this and so the error is fully understandable. I think a proper understanding of calculus, especially Leibniz's formulation, is indispensible to these kinds of discussions about infinitude. In any case, the video was great! It gave me a lot to think about and I hope to see more like it. I suppose I may remain an agent of the antichrist to you and so in the best faith possible I say may we bask in our damnation and 666!
@jesterfrombeyond1776
@jesterfrombeyond1776 2 жыл бұрын
You might need numbers and calculations to make sense of infinity, but maybe this is just a way to get further away from it. 🃏
@dylanqdrujcf7850
@dylanqdrujcf7850 2 жыл бұрын
@@jesterfrombeyond1776 Or perhaps infinity is a richer and more complex topic than you knew!
@jesterfrombeyond1776
@jesterfrombeyond1776 2 жыл бұрын
@@dylanqdrujcf7850 Its infinity after all, it could be anything right? More complex ,simpler or both at the same time. ;D
@metaldisciple
@metaldisciple 28 күн бұрын
Fantastic. God bless you
@tomp8632
@tomp8632 2 жыл бұрын
For zizek isnt the subject in its impossibility the point which disrupts ideological interpellation? The implication would be that political emancipation rests on the impossibility remaining so (the subject remaining absoloute etc.). If i have gotten this correct then the question i would be most curios about is: What are the implications of your thesis of the subject on politics? Does the point that challenges power structures change? Do politics become demphasized? Or is there simply no change since God is the only 'big other'? (and so on.)
@BarbaPamino
@BarbaPamino Жыл бұрын
Wonderful breakdown! (I saw 66 comments and figured 67 was due)
@bradspitt3896
@bradspitt3896 2 жыл бұрын
"[The totality of the Present is complete in its very incompleteness." I used to hate sentences like this, but there is something about irony that I'm trying to sort out. Many people often point to the presence of irony as a criticism in itself, but the Bible is full of them as well, especially in the beatitudes so I don't dismiss irony right away. I think there is good and bad irony, but I am not sure what makes one good and the other bad. Guys like Zizek use the same kind of irony as the Bible, only inverted, but there's something beneath the irony making one good and one bad, just can't figure it out. Is it simply irrationality? Is it the absurd implications?
@edward817
@edward817 2 жыл бұрын
You gotta have James Kourtides on for a discussion!
@edward817
@edward817 2 жыл бұрын
@@telosbound Sweet man, just found it. Thanks for the heads up -- you guys are doing great work.
@antonkokic
@antonkokic Жыл бұрын
Could you talk about Zizeks statement about: "If there is God, than everything is permitted" ?
@antonkokic
@antonkokic Жыл бұрын
@@telosbound cool, cant wait 🙂
@mischievouseurasianist8671
@mischievouseurasianist8671 Жыл бұрын
beautiful
@eregorn8355
@eregorn8355 2 жыл бұрын
good one
@manofnature604
@manofnature604 Жыл бұрын
🔥
@elconoetupepa
@elconoetupepa 2 жыл бұрын
This is as confusing as the stock market. But anyways, to each their own. Heil KZfaq!! Jedem Das Seine!!
@Normvids
@Normvids Жыл бұрын
W
@joaoboechat7637
@joaoboechat7637 Жыл бұрын
Faith in wich god?
@joaoboechat7637
@joaoboechat7637 Жыл бұрын
@@telosbound What does Father, Son and the Holy Spirit wants ?
@batbite_
@batbite_ 2 жыл бұрын
I don't get why you use the word "hierarchy" when "friendship", "relationship", "community" or "communion" is better words - instead of trusting in the friendship with God Kaine creates a merely earthly friendship in the city etc.
@batbite_
@batbite_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@telosbound True, that's why I'm bringing up several words to show dissatisfaction with the word hierarchy while myself not saying what exactly I recommend it replaced with. The place I am pointing to is 6:30 which I find funky.
@pray4mojo35
@pray4mojo35 2 жыл бұрын
Amy Schumer isn’t funny at all.
@glendagajsek-shears3890
@glendagajsek-shears3890 7 ай бұрын
😢😔🙏💚 True loving God source Spirit Creator and the true loving light Christos saviour and light forces help win with/in save us all. And wish none of us were so messed up broken or evil or damed failing or stop fallen towards the dark negative forces energies or negative issues hijacking the mind. Or holding or building up so much sin etc... And wish none of us did anything wrong against or being like the d/evil against the true loving God source Spirit... But even if in the case where energies need to experience happen to mercy save healing and restoration And all with the true loving God source Spirit. 💚
@glendagajsek-shears3890
@glendagajsek-shears3890 7 ай бұрын
Have you heard anything from about Saturn being the 6th planet and also how Saturday/Saturn's day???... And how dates/days/ calendar etc times changes? And cultures. I grew up in the beliefs of the Sabbath (and especially with SDA)... That Sunday first day of the week and Saturday/Sabbath the 7th day... But also schools or other calendars have Sunday as the 7th day and then makes Saturday/Saturn's day the 6th day...
@Tommy-wq4ow
@Tommy-wq4ow Жыл бұрын
Bvsed
@taylornovia8911
@taylornovia8911 4 ай бұрын
It's just a sum parts not becoming a whole.
@taylornovia8911
@taylornovia8911 4 ай бұрын
@@telosbound expound on that
@taylornovia8911
@taylornovia8911 4 ай бұрын
@@telosbound mistaking universal for a particilar
@VVeltanschauung187
@VVeltanschauung187 2 жыл бұрын
I dont know about the end of history being particularly Satanic lol
@richardkasper5822
@richardkasper5822 11 ай бұрын
We mustn't do anything to achieve theosis that's up to God . But I'm seeing that we can do the physical things to induce theosis without God but who would do that ? You have to be so vain to assume that work and what an insult to God. BE STILL AND KNOW THAT HE IS GOD. We are here to be humbled children and if we get with the program which is to live simply share whatever you have with whoever has need for it. And let God do the transforming in His good time . There shouldn't be a problem entering into His kingdom.
@jackmaitland8496
@jackmaitland8496 2 жыл бұрын
🤓
@IlluminatiCheckerboardflooring
@IlluminatiCheckerboardflooring 2 жыл бұрын
10/10
@Syed_12
@Syed_12 2 жыл бұрын
( Do Christians And Jews and "OTHER" non-Muslims go to Heaven? ) Quran 2:62 '' Those who believe (in the Quran) and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures) and the Christians and the Sabians->ANYAllah< Is The Protector Of Monasteries, Churches, Synagogues And The Mosques ) Quran 22:40 [They are] those who have been evicted from their homes without right - only because they say, " Our Lord is God " And were it not that God checks the people, some by means of others, there would have been demolished monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques in which the name of God is much mentioned. And God will surely support those who support Him. Indeed, God is Powerful and Exalted in Might. Note: Why did Allah protected Churches and Synagogues if they worship false Allah ? ( Why Are There So Many Different Religions In The World ? ) Quran 5 48 ''...... If God wanted He could have made all of you a single nation.( ie single religion ) But He willed otherwise in order to test you in what He has given you (ie Scriptures) therefore try to excel one another in good deeds. Ultimately you all shall return to God then He will show you the truth of those matters in which you '' >DISPUTE verb < not noun like other religions Islam mean "submission" to God ( The above verse saying is that God will not accept a religion from the >MUSLIM< and the Non-Muslims but total "submission" to God ) Question: How Can Muslim And the Non-Muslim "submit" to the God? Answer: Be kind to other human beings and Do not lie, Do not steal, Do not cheat, Do not hurt others, Do not be prideful and Do the charity work. Note: If you obeyed all the ABOVE Allah-God's moral laws "YOU" submitted to God.( ie Islam mean "submission" to God ) The only people who will enter Paradise those who '' Submitted to God '' ( ie by good deeds ) God does NOT accept your religion of birth but only ''Your Total'' Submission to Him. ( God Allows Interfaith Marriages And Eat Food From the Christian And Jew And Vice Versa ) Quran 5:5 ''This day [all] good foods have been made lawful, and the food of those who were given the Scripture (ie Christian and Jew) is lawful for you and your food is lawful for them. And [lawful in marriage are] chaste women from among the believers (ie Muslim ) and chaste women from among those who were given the Scripture (ie Christian and Jew) before you, when you have given them their due compensation, desiring chastity not unlawful sexual intercourse or taking [secret] lovers. And whoever denies the faith - his work has become worthless and he in the Hereafter will be among the losers.'' Note: > Only < Islam allows interfaith marriages (>14 hundredsSame God< but They are >ALL Corrupt< more or less, some more than others from their original foundational teaching. The older religion are MORE corrupted than newer religion. Question to Muslim and Christian: Does God / Allah only answer your pray ? And God / Allah does not answer non Muslim / non Christian pray? Did Allah '' Canceled '' all other religions Judaism and Christianity? Quran 5:48 '' And We have revealed to you [O Muhammad] the Book in truth, confirming that which preceded it of the Scripture ( ie New and old Testament ) and as a criterion over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. >>>TO EACH OF YOU WE PRESCRIBED A LAW AND A METHODone nation>differ qualified < for to enter Paradise ) On the day of judgement God will ''NOT'' judge humanity bases on Sunni Muslim sect VS Shia Muslim sect ''NOR'' by Muslim VS non-Muslim >but< Doer of Goods VS Doer of Evils. '' YOUR " birth in the Muslim's family is NOT a > qualification < for to enter the Paradise. '' YOUR " religion / sect / foot long beard is NOT a > qualification < for to enter the Paradise. The > qualification < to enter Paradise is > Faith in God and Good Work
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